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Religion / Re: The Earth Is Flat And Not A Globe Part 2 by onlyfacts: 8:54am On Aug 28, 2020
EMILO2STAY:
. Yes


That's because of the aerodynamics of the air to the wings which make it supports them. If they lose their wings they begin to fall.



So what forces are keeping the plasma ball together? How come the balls keep going around a circular path or orbit? What force is driving it around?

So whatever flies in the sky according to you is lighter than air except planes and birds I pointed out? I'll love to hear all your assumptions.

Is it just aerodynamics of the air to the wings that makes it airborne? And is smoke really lighter than air?
Religion / Re: The Earth Is Flat And Not A Globe Part 2 by onlyfacts: 8:43am On Aug 28, 2020
EMILO2STAY:
I have and it doesn't make sense. In the globe earth map, anchorage is a little distant from Los Angeles so why land afar off instead of just going straight. I Think your still learning. The flat map is called the azimuthal equidistant map which is what is used for navigation world wide. This same map is the same map used by the us air force in in 1945. The equidistant map is even labelled as practically and scientifically correct for navigation.



Then you haven't. I also know what I am talking about.

However, a straight line in a 2-dimensional map (which is a flattened earth map) is not the same as a straight line on a 3-DIMENSIONAL GLOBE(which is a globular earth map). by being 3-DIMENSIONAL it takes into account the X, Y and Z axis which represents the CARDINAL POINTS and earth's GLOBULAR CURVATURE.

This is why flight paths take an arc route between an origin and a destination (on a 2-dimensional map that route seem curved because it has no Z axis but on a 3 dimensional map which is a globular earth map it is straight.)

The takeaway is this:

A route that looks longer on the map is because of the distortion created with map projections like the Mercator projection. In navigation, pilots often use great circles (geodesic) as the shortest distance flight which is reflected on the globular earth map.

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Religion / Re: The Earth Is Flat And Not A Globe Part 2 by onlyfacts: 1:00am On Aug 28, 2020
EMILO2STAY:
EMERGENCY LANDING EVIDENCE OF A FLAT EARTH


On October 7, 2015, a Chinese Airline (cal) flight made an emergency landing at ted Stevens Anchorage airport in Alaska. The emergency landing was necessary, because a woman had gone into labor and subsequently gave birth during the flight. The flight originated from Taiwan taoyuan international airport and was scheduled to land in california. The pilot decided to divert the flight to anchorage airport, six hours after taking off, after he was informed that the womans water broke.
Below is map using the standard mercator projection map which assumes a globular earth. The emergency landing on a globe makes no sense because the flight diversion means that the airline decided to divert a flight from its scheduled destination of Los Angeles which is a city that offers some of the best medical care in the world to a far off city in the wilderness state.
On the actual flat earth, anchorage is a destination that os almost directly along a straight flight path from Taiwan to Los angeles.
As you can see on the azimuthal equidistant map below, the diversion of the flight to anchorage, Alaska , makes perfect sense on the flat earth.

Draw those same distance on a GLOBULAR EARTH and see if it doesn't make sense? It does!

You using a FLATTENED globular earth map to draw distance which is totally wrong. On that FLATTENED globular earth map, it means if someone wanted to fly from ASIA to AMERICA, he would have to fly through EUROPE or AFRICA which is totally wrong. On an ACTUALLY GLOBULAR EARTH MODEL, they would simply fly through the PACIFIC OCEAN to America.

That flattened map is not to be used for measuring distance between two point but rather the globular earth model.
Religion / Re: The Earth Is Flat And Not A Globe Part 2 by onlyfacts: 12:48am On Aug 28, 2020
EMILO2STAY:
Airplane Level Flight Proves the Earth is
Flat



If the earth were a globe, airliners would not be able to Fly on a flat and level path. Any pilot will tell you that once a plane gets to its cruising altitude, the pilot “levels off” and flies in a straight and level path. Indeed, the pilot uses the horizon to ensure that the plane is flying level.

When visibility is poor, the pilot will use the instruments and fly a level heading, using an artificial horizon.

Either way, at all times the plane flies level, once the pilot reaches cruising altitude.

If the earth were a globe, the pilot would have to constantly adjust the heading of the plane and dip its nose down to keep a constant altitude.

However, the earth is in fact flat, so if a pilot dipped the nose of the plane down, to adjust for the supposed curvature of the earth, he would he would find that he is losing altitude.

If the pilot kept on that downward trajectory, the plane would crash into the earth.

The fact that no such downward adjustment is made by pilots for the supposed curvature of the earth is proof that the earth is flat.

Eric dubay explains

"" if the earth is asphere, airplane pilots would have to constantly correct their altitudes downwards so as not to fly straight off into outer space, if the earth were truly a sphere 25,000 miles circumference curveting 8inches/m ^2, a pilot wishing to simply maintain their altitude at a typical cruising speed of 500 mph, would have to constantly dip there nose downwards and descend 2,777ft ( over half a mile) every minute otherwise without compensation, in one hour time the pilot would find themslves166,666 ft (31.5miles) higher than expected. A plane flying at a typical 35,000 ft wishing to maintain that altitude at the upper rim of the so called troposphere in one hour would find themselves over 200,000 ft high into the mesosphere with a steadily raising trajectory the longer they go. I have talked to several pilots and no such compensation for the earth supposed curvature is ever made.
When pilots sets an altitude, their artificial horizon gauge remains level and so does their course; nothing like the necessary 2,777ft per minute declination is ever taken into consideration.""



The federal Aviation Administration assumes a flat earth when training pilots and air traffic controllers using their target generation facility (TGF) the TGF consist of several software programs that control scenarios using simulated.
The FAA publications explains that in order for the software to accurately replicate the behavior of air craft during over the earth, the software running the TGF simulator assumes that the earth is flat.


To escape from earth's gravity a plane or any object would need to fly directly upwards like a rocket would into the sky at 11.2 km/s. This is because on the surface of the Earth, the escape velocity is about 11.2 km/s, which is approximately 33 times the speed of sound (Mach 33) and several times the muzzle velocity of a rifle bullet (up to 1.7 km/s).

An aeroplane doesn't travel directly upwards like a rocket but side ways (with side ways take off and flight) and it doesn't even come close to breaking the speed of the sound barrier not even once or up to 33 times which is necessary to get enough speed to escape the earth. When you fly an airplane you are still being pulled by the center of the earth towards it and that is why the plane doesn't fly off the earth or needs an adjustment in cruising altitude. To remind you you are still under the earth's pull simple turn off the engines of the airplane and watch it come crashing down to earth again.

Also because the earth has a long circumference (at the equator earth's circumference is about 24,901 miles (40,075 km). However, from pole-to-pole — the meridional circumference — Earth is about 24,860 miles (40,008 km) around) the curvature of the earth is gradual because of how big it is and as long as the center of the earth keeps pulling on the aircraft which makes it not to escape into space, these two factors makes it not so apparent to those inside to feel the curvature. its like driving in a road that slowly curves to the left maybe at a total bend distance of 3,000 meters. A passenger at the back of the car if he doesn't look at the road won't even notice that the car is slowly turning to the right because it is not a SHARP TURN.
Religion / Re: The Earth Is Flat And Not A Globe Part 2 by onlyfacts: 12:24am On Aug 28, 2020
EMILO2STAY:
Why do people not understand that apples fall from trees to the ground, not because of gravity, but because apples are denser than air? They believe in the mystical force of gravity, not because it has been proven true, but because they have been brainwashed into believing In it. Gravity does not exist. David wardlow Scot explains

"" 1. any object which is heavier than air and which is unsupported, has a natural tendency to fall y its own weight. Newtons famous apple at woolsthorpe, or any other apple when ripe, loses hold of its stalk, and, being heavier than air drops as a matter of necessity, to the ground, totally irrespective of any attraction of the earth.
2. For if such attraction existed, why dies not the earth attract the rising smoke which is not nearly so heavy as the apple? : the answer is simple because the smoke is lighter than the air, and therefore, does not fall but ascends.
gravitation is only a subterfuge, employed by Newton in his attempt to prove that the earth revolves round the sun, the quicker it is relegated to the tomb of all the capulets, the better will it be for all classes of society. He draped his idol with tawdry tinsel of false science, knowing well how to beguile the thoughtless multitude, for with a little alteration of byrons famous lines, it is still true that mortals like moths are often caught by glare. And folly wins success where seraph might despair.""

Gravity is a clever illustration of hocus pocus heads I win, tail I lose; newton won his fame, the people lost their senses.

1. "any object which is heavier than air and which is unsupported, has a natural tendency to fall y its own weight"- according to you.

Airplanes are heavier than air, birds are heavier than air etc... What supports their weight, still the same AIR. How is that possible?


2. "the answer is simple because the smoke is lighter than the air, and therefore, does not fall but ascends"- according to you.

It is the same reason that airplanes and birds which are much heavier than air can be supported by it that makes smoke rise through the atmosphere and not because they are light as you claim. (remember smoke contains bigger particles than air and they still rise together up into the sky)

If you still don't believe that air can support their masses then how will you explain how the SUN and the MOON are suspended in the EARTH'S atmosphere, simply just floating. They must be tons heavier than air. I know you don't believe in GRAVITY, but how come they keep going around the earth every day?
Religion / Re: The Earth Is Flat And Not A Globe Part 2 by onlyfacts: 12:13am On Aug 28, 2020
EMILO2STAY:
Under the heliocentric theory, the earth is spinning at approximately 1,000m/h at the equator. The heliocentric scientist had a problem with their theory.
How could they explain how people, animals and other things do not fly off into space due to the centrifugal force of the spinning earth?. Isaac newton saved the day with his theory of gravity, which supposedly keeps everything attatched to the ball earth.

Newtons theory of gravity was founded upon the premise that all objects are attracted to all other objects based on their mass. But this law of science had never been proven and cannot be observed.
Gravity is not based upon science, gravity is like a heathen religious superstition, people believe it to be true simply because the modern day witch doctors whom we call scientists say so.

(1) If gravity truly exist, why would it cause both planets to orbit the sun and people to float in suspended circular orbits around the earth, or it should cause the earth to be pulled and crashed into the Sun! (2)What sort of magic is gravity that it can glue peoples feet to the ball earth, while causing earth itself to revolve round sun.
The effect are different yet the same cause is attributed to both.

According to heliocentric model, The force of gravity at the equator is perfectly balanced against the centrifugal force of the spinning earth. All persons and objects are supposedly perfectly balanced through gravity by their mass against the centrifugal force of the spinning earth to remain attached to the earth.
The problem with gravity is that according to that
(3)Theory, the gravitational attraction to the earth by all persons and objects remains the same at all places on the earth

That poses a real problem if the earth is spinning as alleged. That is because the centrifugal force decreases every mile towards the north pole, where the centrifugal force is ultimately reduced to zero, because the north pole is the axis of the supposedly spinning earth.

On the globe as you travel north or south of the equator The circumference parallel to the equator becomes less. Consequently the speed of the earths rotation at the more northern and southern latitudes from the equator would be slower than its speed of spin at the equator.

For example, at the 45° degree north latitude, the earth's spin should be approximately 700m/h. 100ft from the north pole, the earth spin should be reduced to one quarter mile per hour ( 1, 308 feet per hour).

As the speed of the spin is reduced, so also is the correlative centrifugal force. there would be a 4000 fold reduction( 1000mph vs 1/4mph) in centrifugal force from the equator to a point 100ft of the north pole.

That means assuming as is required by the theory of gravity that the force of gravity remains constant over the entire surface of the earth, a 175 pound man would weigh 7000 pounds if he traveled to within 100ft of the north pole.

Assuming the earth is spinning, the decrease in centrifugal force as one approaches the north pole means that a person would be crushed by the force of gravity before he ever reached the north pole.

The spinning earth and the mystical force of gravity are this proven to be pure fictions.

There is no such thing as gravity, gravity. Is not necessary on the flat earth. It is density that keeps objects from floating off the surface of the earth. People and objects are heavier than the air and therefore do not float off the ground.



1. Imagine a boy had a ball attached to a string and held in one hand. At rest the ball will be dangling side to side at his feet (that is with him). Now if he gives himself a good continuous spin at a particular speed while extending his hands, what happens to the ball attached to the string? It spins around him, as long as the the STRING is strong enough to support the weight of the BALL and your SPIN, the ball won't fly away from him but FALL AROUND HIM CONSTANTLY ( and not INTO HIM) FOLLOWING A CIRCULAR PATH.
As long as he maintains that constant SPEED too (and not SLOW DOWN), it's circular path can continue forever.

So two basically 2 things at LEAST keeps an object moving round a circular path. One is a FORCE that attracts it to a center point... Which for the ball is a string and for Earth is Sun's gravitational tug. Two the speed at which an object is moving around a center point... Which for the ball is the spin generated by the boy and transferred to the ball and for Earth the spin around it's axis or path around the Sun.


2. The Earth can be in motion and you won't feel it as long as its motion is relative to you. To explain, imagine a standing boy inside a moving bus that is insulated against noise and which has no windows to see outside and its interior completely empty of seats. The bus can be moving as fast as 100km/hr while the boy is inside the bus without feeling any relative motion. The boy can jump, play and run inside the bus safely without knowing the bus was moving at all but on the condition the driver of the bus maintains the bus speed at exactly 100km/hr and doesn't slow down for whatever reason. The driver must also not change directions too. The road has to be smooth and perfect without any pot holes for it to work. All those outside the bus can tell it is moving because its relative motion is against them.

This applies to the earth too. As long as you remain in the earth and it's atmosphere (that is earth's space) you won't directly experience earth's movement. You have to leave earth completely and it's space to observe earth's rotation against you.

3. The earth is not a perfectly rounded ball but a sphere as such earth's gravitational pull cannot be uniform across the earth's surface. The equators are farther away from the center of the earth than at the poles and as such experience less gravitational pull by the earth. In combination, the equatorial bulge and the effects of the surface centrifugal force due to rotation mean that sea-level gravity increases from about 9.780 m/s2 at the Equator to about 9.832 m/s2 at the poles, so an object will weigh approximately 0.5% more at the poles than at the Equator. That gravitational pull won't crush a human, which is why people can survive at the poles.
Religion / Re: We Have Been Lied To The Earth Is Flat And Not A Globe by onlyfacts: 11:07pm On Aug 27, 2020
EMILO2STAY:
I just cant keep this to myself anymore, the truth must be known

The Earth is a Globe
For most of the world, the Earth is a globe that is spinning on it’s axis. This train of thought is ingrained into us from the moment that we are born, and as we proceed into formal education, globes are present in all classes. This could be further from the truth. Due to our indoctrination as children as well as faked moon landings, we have been led to believe that as humans we can traverse the atmosphere.
For most of history, mankind has always known that the Earth is flat, and there have been many experiments to prove the same. The globe theory was first coined in the beginning of the 6th century by the philosopher Pythagoras. He was of the idea that the earth was not flat as was widely believed.

This did not take hold but was later implemented during the 15th century by Martin Behaim in 1492. Although the idea had already started floating around when Columbus first sailed to the Americas, it should be noted that he was not the first man to set sail to America.
This is another deception that will be covered in a subsequent page.

This also did not happen by coincidence. It was during the reign of Queen Isabella I of
Castile and Ferdinand II of Aragon that this idea was peddled by the elites to begin one of the greatest deceptions that mankind has witnessed.

The reality is that the Earth is flat and has a firmament above it. It is a perfect system with a designer, who in his glorious power maintains the same.

The firmament is something that science and the elites have hidden from mankind for a long time, especially after Operation Fishbowl , where the limits of the firmament were being tested under the guise of high altitude nuclear testing.

This operation coincidentally is under the umbrella
Operation Dominic .

Dominic is a Latin word meaning ” of The Lord” ; thus fishbowl of the Lord . This would not be obvious to a layman especially at a time when information was not readily available, and a time when the economies of the world were booming as well as Rock and Roll music to keep the people in a state of sleep.

The elites know we are in a fishbowl structure- firmament and know that there is a Lord that created this fishbowl! They have only chosen to disbelieve in him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpzHfem47tY

Let's play a game of questions and answers, I'll like us to learn one or two things from each other. Now let's assume you are correct with the FLAT EARTH CONCEPT, I'll like you to help me explain these few things I can't make sense of with the FLAT EARTH MODEL, so let's go into it.

1A. In the earth's atmosphere which is farther away, the SUN or the MOON?

1B. Based on 1A, how will you explain the LUNAR ECLIPSE with the FLAT EARTH MODEL?

2A. Explain the concept of A LEAP YEAR using the FLAT EARTH MODEL.

2B. Why does A LEAP YEAR occur at all in the first place using the FLAT EARTH MODEL?

3A. Explain using the FLAT EARTH MODEL the occurrence of SEASONS (WINTER, SPRING, SUMMER and AUTUMN)

3B. Explain with the FLAT EARTH MODEL how we have TROPIC and TEMPERATE REGIONS.

Let's start with this concepts first. Please kindly explain them using the FLAT EARTH MODEL.
i'll like to learn a thing or two from you.

Regards and Best of luck.
Religion / Re: The Origin Of Life - A Student’s Dilemma by onlyfacts: 5:44pm On Aug 23, 2020
Firstnebo:
Please if you are here and this topic is something you have wondered about, you might like to read the full article.

That's the essence of this post. Not for debates. The article has much to give you

Interesting thread. I'll only advice you to focus on the topic at hand and don't get distracted. Its a public forum and anyone can comment whatever they like on your thread, just be mindful how you engage them or you risk derailing your thread.

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Travel / Re: After 50Million Miles, British Airways Fly Last Boeing 747 To Scrapyard (Photos) by onlyfacts: 4:47pm On Aug 20, 2020
chelseamann:
Those are the kind of planes our government buy here and celebrate

Just open mouth waaaaaa. It's a magnificent plane, in design and engineering. It's just not economically prudent anymore to own the "Queen of the skies" AKA Boeing 747 anymore.

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Travel / Re: After 50Million Miles, British Airways Fly Last Boeing 747 To Scrapyard (Photos) by onlyfacts: 4:44pm On Aug 20, 2020
thesicilian:
Don't be surprised if you see this plane in Nigeria few months from now

Many people just comment waaaaaa without first understandinggrin.

These aircrafts are being retired early because it is not economically profitable to fly these jumbo jets anymore.

Airline companies are migrating to more fuel efficient aircraft's which saves money on fuel and those are twin engine aircrafts and not 4 engine aircrafts.

This jumbo jets have seating capacity of 400 to 500 seats. To be economically profitable it means any time the plane flies it has to sell out all its seats to passengers (or minimum of 80%) which is impossible and that reduces the profit made unlike twin engine aircraft's that have seating capacity of 80-200 which are easier to fill.

The cost of maintenance is also higher for 4 aircraft's engines than twin engines which increases their overhead cost.

The number of aircraft crews are more for 4 aircraft engines than twin engine aircrafts which adds more personnel cost.

4 aircraft engines cannot also land on airports with short runways, so it is best suited for standard international airports and not a local airport etc.

So based on the above it doesn't make economic sense for Nigerian airlines to buy and operate these jumbo 4 engines aircraft in Nigeria as they will make more money on twin engine aircraft which are smaller and more efficient, even if they can afford it.

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Business / Re: Nigeria’s Inflation Rate Rises To 12.82% In July, As Food Prices Surge by onlyfacts: 8:17pm On Aug 17, 2020
NkemChukwudi:


1. Go back to the farm does not mean 20m people, it means a sizeable number of people like 4 -5million
2. Please give us 3 examples of bad government policies impeding agriculture in Nigeria
3. 200m mouths in Nigeria alone will absorb any excess food production and remember we are surrounded by land borders
4. We can force the government to subside and/or mop up excess food production. We have to develop that capacity first through mechanised or alternative farming (including pure manpower labour)
5. Devaluation should only affect imported food or imported components or imported machines etc. It should not affect the cost of local food production.
6. If Nigerian people choose to live in the metropolis then they should be prepared to pay a high price for locally produced food.
7. Over time specialisation and efficiency will connive to eliminate waste, get the food to where it is needed most and cheap enough to profit the producers and the consumers (with government facilitation in between)
8. The above not achievable without the commitment of Nigerians
9. Correct any errors made above


1. I agree with you with your point 1. You mentioned Lagos State which has a population of about 20 million people and that was why I objected.
2. What are government doing about insecurities in the north, farmers are no longer in farms. What are doing about artificial irrigation during the dry season, or storage facilities etc. Are their policies for export friendly to Nigerian farmers.
3. Go to the markets and check if no foods, there are but the problem is how much can you afford to buy? So high cost of foods is the major problem due to inflation
4. High cost of governance is a problem in Nigeria. The government is subsidizing a lot of sectors. Education, petroleum, health, can they still subsidize the agricultural sector? Maybe if they generated more revenue from other sectors.
5. Devaluation affects everything. Locally or International. A farmer will buy car, build house and send kids to school. If his job can't give him those things because of its low profit then it's not worth it.
6. That's the price for industrialization. It applies every where in the world.
7. For it to be sustainable market forces like demand and supply has to be at equilibrium. Government subsidizing the economy won't make it self sustaining.
8. I agree with this.
Business / Re: Nigeria’s Inflation Rate Rises To 12.82% In July, As Food Prices Surge by onlyfacts: 6:47pm On Aug 17, 2020
NkemChukwudi:


This is the most disempowering statement on earth.

Are we brain dead in Africa?

Our land will be collected from us if we continue like this.

I have read your statement about Nigerians going to the farm. Mind you Nigeria has a lot of sectors from finance, telecommunications, power, education, petroleum, health etc while the agricultural sector is just one of the many.

Everyone in Nigeria cannot be farmers, in fact the majority of the population cannot be farmers, not even 50 percent of Nigeria's population can be farmers because all other sectors must be engaged for the proper workings of things.

Another reason is that excess food production is a problem. Demand and supply tells you that the more a product like orange for example is readily available the cheaper it becomes. That's good for the citizens but bad for farmers in general as farming will no longer be profitable, this is because they will need to produce and sell so many oranges to make a decent return! So following economics, the more supply is available demand will drop, which translate to less profit for farmers. To off set excess agricultural produce export of the oranges will be needed to realize profit. In their raw form agricultural goods quickly perish, so they have to be processed first or transported in cold fridge adding more cost to the low end goods. And in a case where the global supply chain for goods is broken like as we have with covid19 it means all those goods will never be transported but perish, which is lost revenue for farmers.

So optimal production of agricultural produce is the point and not excess which will happen if 20 million (which is the population of Lagos) or more people go into commercial farming which will in turn reduce the profit yield they get unless through export.

But under-production of agricultural goods is also a problem. These are partly do to insecurities in the northern regions where agricultural goods are produced, bad government policies that doesn't encourage investment into the agricultural sector, lack of arable farm lands for agriculture in the north, lack of proper artificial irrigation in dry season, high cost of fertilizers, inadequate storage facilities, lack of proper transport of agricultural goods to preserve their freshness etc.

In Nigeria we have optimal production of agricultural goods in most cases, except for maybe a few like rice production. The major problem with our agricultural produce in Nigeria is the devaluation of the naira. As such even with abundant food it doesn't get to our tables. With the devaluation of the naira, this causes reduced power of purchase, which makes these agricultural goods unaffordable to most Nigerians.
Business / Re: Nigeria’s Inflation Rate Rises To 12.82% In July, As Food Prices Surge by onlyfacts: 4:37pm On Aug 17, 2020
As much as bad leadership under the military, PDP and now the APC has had an impact in the slow growth of the Nigerian economy, the global interruption of the SUPPLY CHAIN for goods and services is also to Blame for this.

Famine has long been projected to occur in many African countries due to the pandemic and even worse amongst Africa's poorest countries which Nigeria is a part of. This is because farmers either couldn't farm during the lock down, couldn't distribute their produce around their country/export them during the lock down, etc and these led to lost time in the planting season and a lot of waste of farm produce which could not be sold (many farm produce are quickly perishable and the cost of storing them would only inflate it's prices beyond market value.)

So the lesson is this, the global recession is just about starting, use your available resources for essential things. Those the coronavirus didn't get, the recession is out to get them. May it not be any of us.

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Politics / Re: Nigeria Exports $81.48bn Electricity On Credit As Country’s Blackout Persists by onlyfacts: 1:53pm On Jul 27, 2020
Omooba77:

The origin is Futa Jallon highland in Guinea.. If my Geography still serve me right

Yes it originates in the Guinea Highlands in southeastern Guinea, so that should tell you we don't own a monopoly to the resources of the NIGER RIVER, the kanji dam electricity generation being one of them.
Politics / Re: Nigeria Exports $81.48bn Electricity On Credit As Country’s Blackout Persists by onlyfacts: 11:48am On Jul 27, 2020
Omooba77:


https://punchng.com/nigeria-exports-81-48bn-electricity-on-credit-as-countrys-blackout-persists/

Op I am not impressed with this your post.

Do you know the origin of river Niger?

It originates or starts from GUINEA, passes through MALI, NIGER, BENIN REPUBLIC before entering NIGERIA.

We are the last bus stop for the river, hope you know the implications of that?

We are able to have light because of the kanji dam we built along that river. Guinea, Mali, Niger and Benin Republic can also build dams along the Niger river that passes their countries but if they do, the kanji dam won't have enough water in its dam to generate hydroelectricity. So to prevent these countries from damming the Niger river in their countries, Nigeria must distribute a portion of its kanji dam electricity to them, which they in turn will pay for.

These your post in misleading to people who don't understand this.
Romance / Re: If Only Guys Will Take This Advice From Ladies... by onlyfacts: 2:13pm On Jul 10, 2020
needanswer:


you valid too bro!
smiley
Romance / Re: If Only Guys Will Take This Advice From Ladies... by onlyfacts: 12:22pm On Jul 10, 2020
Valid points. Much to think about on both sides, guys especially.

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Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 3:56pm On Jul 08, 2020
petra1:


You’re right God can heal people by his benevolence , people have been healed in a crusade or church service without even expecting a miracle . God chooses to be God sometimes . But he also has set structures and principles . The fact that he acts above it doesn’t change the fundamentals .


You have said it all
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 10:47pm On Jul 06, 2020
WINNERSMOG:


I don’t know what you have with goalposts my friend. I see you love that phrase a lot- you have used it in almost all your comments.lol. Anyway, there was just one goalpost till you came and started shifting here and there, spewing rubbish about what you know nothing about.

The only goalpost here is: for you to receive anything from God you must have faith in him, it is not by abracadabra.


I have made my point already. I'll catch you later in the future when you come to defend your pastor concerning the matter of your topic. Bye.
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 10:50pm On Jul 05, 2020
WINNERSMOG:


My friend, that I posted it here does not mean you should comment about something you know nothing about- that’s what I mean by minding your business my friend.

You don't know what minding ones business is. Next time post it in your church WhatsApp group and see if I will come there and trouble you....Always changing goal post.
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 10:48pm On Jul 05, 2020
WINNERSMOG:


You just said rubbish I never mentioned here my friend. Never did I say all that listened to Jesus believed in him. What I did say was, all that received from God and Jesus in the Bible did so by faith. But you said not so, that they waited for God to change their lives anytime he was ready to do so- this is complete rubbish my friend. It is not biblical at all. You should get knowledge and in all your getting, get understanding too. It will put you at liberty and in control of your life. Faith is not waiting for God to act. Faith is acting on the word of God so as to get your desired results.

I never said any of that. I said God's HEALING POWER works with faith or without faith on the one receiving it. It is simply a demonstration of his STRENGTH. IF IT WORKS ONLY BASED ON OUR BELIEFS/FAITH, THEN IT MEANS GOD'S POWER IS ONLY THE THING OF OUR MINDS OR IMAGINATION.
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 7:08pm On Jul 05, 2020
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Your problem is you don’t mind your business my friend. You are talking about a man you neither know nor hear, yet you think you can pass judgments on him? I can speak for him cos I know him and listen to him all the time.

My friend, if you don’t believe and act upon what God has said about you in his word, you can’t receive from God. This is what I what you to learn in all of this discussion.

I don't mind my business really? Who posted his statement here for us to read and comment? You or you? A public forum for that matter, yet I don't mind my business. Wonderful.
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 6:33pm On Jul 05, 2020
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Stop going around circles my friend. Look beyond the letters into what the spirit of God is saying. All the man is saying is, because Jesus has paid the price for our divine health, we have authority over sickness and disease. Even when sickness and disease present itself as symptoms, we are to cast them out by the authority we have in Jesus. Matt 8:17/1 Pet 2:24

As usual you keep explaining away what he meant.

The man said in case you forgot he can't take ANY vaccine. You said he meant COVID19 vaccine. Good for him then. Hopefully it is not made mandatory for international travel, cause if it's he will still turn around and take it and as usual you will run around defending him....a man that is fallible.
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 7:21pm On Jul 04, 2020
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And who said majority of them believe in Jesus. I said every one that received a miracle from God or Jesus in the Bible put faith in God, Jesus or the Word of God. That’s the simple point I have been trying to make you see since with hard Bible facts, but you have decided not to respond...

Just keep changing goal post, CLAIMING ALL THAT LISTENED TO JESUS HAD FAITH IN HIM.

Biblical and non biblical evidence does not support this. People that chose to free Barnabas a criminal instead of an innocent man Jesus? Na wa o
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 7:14pm On Jul 04, 2020
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This is the point my friend. Because Jesus said he died and rose again to give us divine health- Matt 8:17- we believe in that and thus we can never be affected by any form of sickness or disease. That was what gave birth to that statement he made.

So you may have to wait till eternity for him to be affected by sicknesses and diseases- you know the word of God never changes. As long as we keep believing it will always be so.

I dont need you to explain what he meant. That's not my concern.

And people dont get vaccinated because they are SICK, I dont wish anyone ill health. PEOPLE GET VACCINATED TO AVOID GETTING SICK.

I have never had yellow fever but I took the vaccine to travel. Same as your pastor. It will be the same with covid19 vaccine if it becomes mandatory, get it now?
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 6:46pm On Jul 04, 2020
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You didn’t know what vaccine he was talking about, yet you came on the thread and started spewing thrash. He was talking in response to the alleged world vaccination against covid 19, when he said, “I can never take any vaccine.” That is clear enough. But you just came and entered express. Please be careful grin

Since genuine miracles in the Bible were done by waiting for God to act anytime he likes, please follow that example and grow grey hair waiting na.

I hope your pastor doesn't get to eat his words some day cause I know you will still come here to defend him. Just the way polio vaccine, yellow fever etc are mandatory, I hope for international travels covid19 vaccine is not made compulsory because if it is, your pastor and other pastors will still use it and forget all they said about it and you followers will come here to explain what they earlier said.
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 6:41pm On Jul 04, 2020
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What is your point in differentiating all these people into categories? All of them were opposed to Jesus. For your information it was even the chief priests that paid Judas to betray Jesus. Let me show you how they ranked from highest rank to lowest. The chief priest, the scribes, the elders, the Pharisees and Sadducees were like in the same rank but they had different beliefs about resurrection- all these groups were bitterly opposed to Jesus. But when the gospel began to spread all that heard it believed and were obedient to the faith.

Who asked you for statistics. Are you trying to change the topic, let us know?

That is why I quoted the statistics, to prove to you that I have both biblical evidence and nonbiblical evidence to prove my point that majority of the Jews did not believe in Jesus.

Infact since Judaism is the major religion is Israel guess what? The Jews are still expecting the messiah to come, they deny jesus as the messiah. You make me laugh seriously.
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 6:29pm On Jul 04, 2020
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All these your claims are unfounded my friend. You are just using inaccurate grammar to further confuse yourself. We are talking faith you are talking placebo effect. What does placebo effect have to do with the word of God now? grin . I said faith is believing in the word of God and acting upon it, then God performs. You are there talking placebo. Did I mention anything about using your mind? Who is taking positivism here?

The Egyptians and Baal that you mentioned. Are you so naive to realize that the children of God had faith in the word of God and that was what was giving them victory over the enemy? In the case of pharaoh. It was Moses that believed God and was carrying out all the instructions of God, thereby securing the victory for them. In the case of Baal, it was Elijah that had faith in God, called down fire on the Baal priests and fire came down. Do you know what you are talking about at all?

So if you are sick now, God will just come down when he likes and heal you? You better wake up friend. I know it is your bitterness against this man that is making you say things that are unreasonable.

I have taken vaccines, he must have taken vaccines too. But do you know the vaccine he was talking about? He was talking about the covid-19 vaccine. Do you know the injection he was talking about? He was talking about injection to cure an ailment. Can’t remember when last I took an injection to cure an ailment myself. The last time I took one (very long ago) I didn’t even know how faith works.

My point again: believing God’s word is what triggers God to move in our direction like we have it stated all through the scriptures, and not just waiting for God to act when he likes. My friend you go get grey hair for waiting o.

You make me laugh seriously, your will comprehend slowly.

Read the title of your post.

"I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can NEVER Take ANY Vaccine"- OYEDEPO

At least you have admitted he did. That is my point for posting on this trend. But let me digress a bit below.

He could have said Covid19 vaccine but he did not. Is it hard to say? As usual you must always try to clarify what a pastor said when what he said is clear and obvious for all to read.

I am not waiting for miracles mind you, I was only showing you how miracles, genuine miracles performed in the bible works and not what we have now.
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 5:04pm On Jul 04, 2020
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Your problem is that you jumped into the middle of traffic from nowhere.

The simple argument was: to receive from Jesus you must believe in him. My debaters said wrong. You joined and you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Okay let me assume you know a little of what you are talking about. If to receive from God you don’t need faith like my debaters stated, and you came to support them, then tell me how else do you receive from God? Answer this simple question which seems to be the pivot of your argument.

I have my own questions for you too, has your GO not taken yellow fever vaccine? It is mandatory by international law and I know he travels abroad frequently, so how is it possible?

Have you not also be vaccinated, did it make you less Christian, or have you died?

To your question. To receive healing is not based ONLY on your faith. If you believe good, if you dont believe, good too. Healing and miracles are a demonstration of GOD'S POWER primarily. Your faith in God's power is secondary. If you say Gods power is based on our manifesting faith alone, it is to say God's power is a thing of our minds alone, like a PLACEBO EFFECT. That is if I think in my mind that I am well I become well. Google search the PLACEBO EFFECT.

All through the bible whether God's enemies choose to have faith in his power or not he has demonstrated it. He did it to pharaoh in Egypt, he did against Baal worshipers, he did it to the pharisees etc.

Healing and miracles function in people with and without faith (it is fake pastors that are deceiving you that it is ONLY your faith that can heal you), it is left to God and his prophet to decide who to heal at anytime.

Believing in God Grant's you are relationship with him and is much more than healing.
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 4:52pm On Jul 04, 2020
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Mr facts! You are the greatest assumer from this comment you just posted. High time you changed your moniker. First you assumed Pharisees and Sadducees didn’t believe in Jesus. Where is that stated in the Bible Mr assumption? I pointed out Zacchaeus as one of them that believed yet you didn’t understand. Now you have added series of assumptions not stated or inferred anywhere in the Bible.

How did priests start to believe and surrender to the word of God in the acts of the apostles? By simply hearing the word of God. Just like it is stated in Rom 10:17

Acts 6:7 Then the word of God spread, and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were obedient to the faith.

And you are there saying none of these groups of people believed in Jesus’ words in his time, as if this is stated anywhere in the scriptures? Okay leave all these first.

Tell me my friend, how does one receive from God if not by faith? Maybe I missed something...

I thought you knew the bible, so the pharisee and the priests are in the same class? Or are the sadducees and the priests in the same class too? Wonderful!
The priests are only LEVITES or from the TRIBE OF LEVI, the pharisees and sadducees come from different tribes of Israel.

So when they tried to hide the facts that christ had risen as a group with the Roman soldiers and the good for nothing men they paid to lie that the disciples stole his body at night, they believed too then?

Donr confuse a group of pharisees following jesus and a few who actually did. And to further prove to you that majority did not believe, Christianity is not the major religion in Israel today. It doesn't even make up 3% of religious people in Israel. But Judaism is their major RELIGION with about 40% fellowership of the population.

The number of converts on Pentecost were just a few thousands compared to the millions of Israelites who didn't follow jesus.
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 4:11pm On Jul 04, 2020
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I guess you never heard about Zacchaeus? He was a corrupt tax collector that heard and believed in Jesus. How can you say the Pharisees and Sadducees didn’t believe in Jesus after hearing him preach. My friend, that assumption is very erroneous. Anybody that hears the word of God can believe it. Rom 10:17 does not discriminate my friend.

Let me show you something. Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

You must believe to receive anything from God my friend. There is no other way. That’s why you have the word must in the scripture above! You should understand these things, it’s in simple English my friend.

Can you listen to yourself first?
I said listening does not equate to believing. They are two different things. To believe you need to put faith in the things heard. So believing calls for faith and while just listening does not. That is why I told you FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD but you still didn't comprehend! if the Pharisees or that man truly believed in Jesus as you claimed, their FAITH in him would have manifested by their WORKS, namely they will believe he is the SON OF GOD and would not have ARRESTED and KILLED HIM.

That man malchus did not believe in Jesus as THE PROMISED MESSIAH, if he did he wouldn't have had a hand in his arrest. Neither did the Pharisees believe, if they did AFTER THEY HEARD OF JESUS RESURRECTION they should have repented and become Christians rather they PAID MEN TO HIDE THIS FACT AND CONTINUED IN THEIR WAYS.

understand English and bible my friend.
Religion / Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 1:23pm On Jul 04, 2020
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Read vs 53 and you’d have the solution to your puzzle. These same people that came to arrest Jesus had been with him in the temple. They had been listening to him, and of course seeing him perform many miracles. Wouldn’t you say so? And Rom 10:17 says faith comes by hearing the word of God. And you say this man didn’t have any faith? The only way you can be so sure he didn’t have any faith is if he hadn’t listened to Jesus or seen him work miracles before in his life. Put your spiritual eyes on and you’d see spiritual things clearly friend.


All you wrote up are assumptions. I deal in the facts and I have shown you facts that he never had faith in Jesus. Even the Bible says it that faith without works is dead.

If the man ever listened to Jesus that does not equate to believing in Jesus. The Pharisees and sadducess listened to Jesus preach but never believed he was the son of God up to the point they killed him. They listened but did not believe, as such they did not have faith. The same applies to that man.
You need to understand the Bible my friend.

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