kingxsamz:

You're not as bright as I thought.
What hasn't been proven cannot be disproved. It's like me telling you to prove to me that Unicorns doesn't exist. That's dumb actually.

alright, great lol. asking you to do that wasn't me playing dumb. it was a me handing out a bait.
I said, 'HOW ABOUT" you prove there's no God.

kingxsamz:


Okay then, counter his points, or prove him wrong. Instead of avoiding his questions.
And where did I mention I was an atheist?

well, what is your worldview? let's see how brilliant you are.

I choose not to answer him. for the same reason you won't take a blind man out of the house to show him the sun.

OtemAtum:
Check the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY first and see the kind of power you think I was given. Also check the SERIOT LANGUAGE given to me and see what I have. Then I have been given power to control and encage all the gods of religion in the spiritual realms until science has totally taken over minds in the earth. I'm not compiling the universal history for people to start using it as a belief. It's just a history book of truth. There's no danger in not reading it, not to talk of believing it. It's only religious books that always threaten people with dangers, this is not one.

wow, you mean there's no danger even after death?

kingxsamz:

Okay then. Based on your theory, only physical proof is credible. Now show me proof of God.

you first have to tell me what the right concept of God is.
or, how about you show me proof that there is no God?

kingxsamz:


Lol, if you won't answer him, then he's right.
Your God is confused or mad.
Because if you come out to explain your beliefs about God, another Christian folk will come out and give a totally different view, while the both of you claim you were being told by the holy spirit.

that's another logical fallacy. I thought atheists used to be bright people. but alas, they could be as dumb as the adherents of religion which they despise.

if I don't answer him THEN he is right?

kingxsamz:



It's funny that you're the one talking about proofs and claims.
If he says your God is being held in a spiritual cage, then it's true.
If you say it's not, provide physical proof.

that's wrong. a proof can come from both sides. if I told you that you have Corona-virus, you could prove it to me that you Don't have it by providing a test result, or I prove to the same to you by giving you your test results which affirms you position. either way, a proof works.

kingxsamz:


You won't answer because you know there's truth in what he's saying.
Christians contradict each other with their beliefs about their God.

of course, "Christians", as adherents of any institution contradict themselves on some points.

I won't answer him, because he doesn't mean well for the Christian religion. I won't be casting pearls before swines.

Bettymax:
When he was asked if he knew Jesus he said no and denied Jesus three time like how Naira Marley keeps saying he ain't a Yahoo boy (am a Yahoo boy).

okay, so?
we haven't learnt anything new here

I like to have dialogue with atheists that reason logically. not the vast majority of the ones Nairaland is filled with.

so, my question is, as an atheist, what your view on morality?

OtemAtum:
The world is just one out of trillions upon trillions of planets brought to existence by God Almighty. The one who inspires me is not the creator of the world either, he is just a brother to most of the common gods you humans have ever been worshipping. He is Atum, one of the past gods himself, a brother to Olorun, Jehovah, Allah, Nzame, Odin, Jupiter, Chukwu, Abassi etc. When I say brother, I mean that they were all created together by God Almighty billions of years back. Most of them have experienced this Earth as gigantic beings and even as human beings at different points in time on this earth.

nice, did they give you any powers? is there any danger in not believing your message?

Bratking:


I disagree. There is a natural standard for Insanity. For instance, a rabid dog is psychotic as opposed to a non-rabid dog.

When a person or animal is psychotic, medically, they are insane.

good, so, what makes you affirm that the behaviour of the psychotic dog is the abnormal behavior. couldn't it be an abnormally?

OtemAtum:
Yes

okay.

what were you told about the creation of the world, what was the motif of the one who inspired you, in creating the world?

Bratking:

Can you tell a sane person from an insane person?

no.. seeing that there's no natural standard.

OtemAtum:

God has not been held in captivity, it's Jehovah and Allah that are held in captivity. Read the Book of Otem Erectus 226

You can also read the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY here. There you will see how Jehovah your god was encaged for a thousand years.

https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos

wow, nice
is this an inspired work?

Bratking:


I agree. Islam is too radical. No man in his right mind will choose a religion that fosters terrorism.

what does the "right mind" entail?
is there a standard for rightness of mind?

geoworld.
I want to know your worldview. what's your religion (if you have one) do you believe there's a free will?

geoworldedu:
Otematum is another bringer of something new, like Moses and Mohammed. He teaches that God Almighty is neither Jehovah nor Allah, but Jehovah and Allah are being created by God Almighty. He even claimed that Jehovah your God has been held in captivity in a cage for more than three years already as we speak. He claims that science is the way forward while religion is to be destroyed.
Why should you believe in his doctrine? Is that my business? Let him come and tell you his mind mbok.

beautiful, I'll like to know how he got these new ideas and the proofs.

he claims that my God has been held in captivity, well, that's just a claim.

geoworldedu:


Because they claimed it was God?

Now let me ask you some of these questions and call another Christians to ask the same. You will see that what God told you about him will be different .

1. Is God Trinity?
2. Are Jesus and God equal?
3. Has any man seen God at any time?
4. Does God command killing or 'thou shall not kill'?
5. Is Corona Virus brought by God or by humans

so because they CLAIMED it was God; their claim is true?

I won't answer these questions of yours because I don't believe you are interested in sound conversation.
I'll retract and answer them only when I'm convinced that you really want to rightly know about my belief

ikh777:


lol, I feel the eczema in your brain has gotten to your mouth.

IF GOD EXISTS, it means he is a perfect being, to begin to think that he has a dysfunction.... then you are twisted beyond repair.

his thread aren't logical he is only spewing venom. he doesn't make people think logically

geoworldedu:
We are created in God's image after his likeness. The question is Does God also have Erectile Dysfunction like human beings do?

you Must have been listening to heretics. (I'm glad that they have taught you wrongly) because man at the fall, lost the image of God. the image of God consists in righteousness and Holiness and not our corporeal bodies.

geoworldedu:
Maybe you are right...or could it be the God Almighty OtemAtum always talk about

who is otematum. what does he teach? why should I believe his doctrines?

geoworldedu:
When you interview 1000 religious people to ask them about God, they will tell you 1000 contradictory things and they are all filled with the Holy Spirit of God. Then one begin to wonder if God who is inspiring them is not mad already for telling them different stuffs.

God told some of them that he had three heads
He told another that he has just one head

He told another that he created hell fire
He told another that he did not create hell fire

He told some that he has a son
He told others that he is impotent and cannot have a son

He told some that Jehovah's witness are the only right people
He told others that Jehovah's witness is false

He told some that celebrating Christmas is paganism
He told some others that it is not

He told some that wearing earrings is wrong
He told some others that it is right

He told some that there will be paradise on Earth
He told others that there is no paradise on Earth

He told some that there is purgatory
Others that there is no purgatory

Told some that nobody has seen him before
Some that Moses and Jacob have seen him before etc.

Only a mad man is incoherent in his speeches and it seems God is just very incoherent and it brings to my mind the possibility of God being mad long way back without humans knowing it.

cc: Donbachi, I told you I will open another thread today by my own grace. Remember you said that yesterday's thread would be my last.

How do you know that it was God who told them these things?

Faithful4real:


Luke 10:19

Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.


Sickness is one of the power of the enemy. Believe it or not i have seem a man who have never fell sick for 13 years. Why? Because he believed that bible principle. He accepted it by faith.

to whom was Christ talking to in Luke 10:19? have you stepped on serpents and scorpions?

he hasn't fell sick for 13 years? beautiful. how do you know that? is it you? or he told you; you believed it and you are now telling me.

MuttleyLaff:
Ditto here too

what do you mean?

MuttleyLaff:
Ditto here too

what do you mean?

MuttleyLaff:
Ditto here too

what do you mean?

StrikeBack:
If anyone after this pandemic is over takes this charlatans serious again then I would know Nigerians case is highly irredeemable

This period has shown how relevant religion is and as such should be trashed in a trash can.

Religion is a SCAM

religion is not scam.
it is these charlatans that has destroyed its beauty with their lies and greed.

Faithful4real:


Do not judge these words will be used against you in the last day. For everything you do you must give an account.

What he say right the pastor is an office its is his calling. Even you can be a doctor and this do the work of God, that is your calling.

Jesus said to his disciple i have given you power to walk upon serpents and scorpion.

This power is still with us power we just have to enforce it.

how do I know the power is still with you?

Ubenedictus:
but are they not of the same Calvinist tradition?

What would you say is their misunderstanding about the covenant?

they are credobaptists.
they believe that infants can't be Baptized because they haven't made a profession of faith.

both.

LegendaryLover:

what stops u from going there. Are u not a christian too? power is available to every christian. and being a pastor is just an office. God expects ALL His children to be performing miracles, not just the few called to a pastoral office.

you only attacked him. you didn't answer his question.
Adeboye in several instances has made numerous incredible claims of the unimagineable.
no man (going by his claims) is more fitted for massive Corona-virus healing crusades than he. He even claimed to have had "God" drink tea with him. so, seeing that Adeboye only claims but doesn't do, he must be a false prophet.

else, why isn't healing people from the pandemic

LegendaryLover:
God will bless you E.A Adeboye. you are one of the true saints of God.

wow really? how did you arrive at this judgement?

you know the intentions of the heart?