cococandy: I’m an emotional liberal screaming into a lake or whatever you guys call it. Please don’t call me reasonable.
Reasonable in this context being someone who sits back and looks at what is going and says yea that’s alright? No thanks.
You’re not the one who has to go work today to hold the hands of kids barely into their 20s who will never walk again because DJT can’t handle his emotions. You get to be “reasonable” from a safe distance. Not all of us have that luxury.
Oh you read on the news that Iranians want him to liberate them? Why didn’t I think of doing that?
Whose news BTW? American media right? Same Iranians whose kids are being leveled in schools and hospitals? Of course American media told you they love it.
That they are enjoying the feeling of Trump bombing their bridges while they’re are probably on it. Threatening their power plants on which many of them depend.
This is 2026, You can find whatever information that fits your mindset if you look hard enough on the internet. I’m certain any of them who were under the illusion that Trump would make things better for their country have quickly become disillusioned.
But pls don’t call me reasonable. I find it condescending even if you don’t mean it that way.
The bold. I am about the Zohran comment you made - and the generality of what you post on this board. I find your post much mature and balanced than from some others here in your circle. Of course I know and appreciate your liberal inclinations and I don't begrudge you. We can't all have the same leanings and outlook about things in this life.
Freedom doesn't come easy. The Iranians appreciate that sacrifices must be made to free them from the subjugation they have endured this past 47 years.
If you read some of my posts in here, I've had to condemn Trump's actions in some way. I appreciate that governance is not for the faint of hearts and the "lilly livered". Politics is never a fair game.
mynd1: Another more brutal spoke person will replace him. You can never kill an ideology.
You will need to tell that to Hamas. They're cooling their heels off somewhere right now (that's if they even exist anymore), after the Gaza experience. Did you hear pim from them since this war started?
ijebosb: Nice conversation. You are having a conversation about who are reasonable people with a man caught trying to phish people's ip addresses and who lies here daily about living in the US
Does that seem reasonable to you? Do you think you yourself are not an "alien, living in their own world"?
Ijebos, it's actually a refreshing thing to do when you take that step and put in some effort to see the good in everyone. Hate destroys. Breeds divisions. Like I stated in one of my earlier posts, in the end, we all sleep on one bed (except maybe the likes of buda and some others, whom it appears, from some of their conversations, that they have the ability to split in two and still remain human ) when we return from our work everyday. We should all appreciate the common things we all share and work to make people better.
cococandy: You must not like me very much because I can’t stand child molesters. No excuses. Nothing like God is using them for some yeye stuff that doesn’t even make sense to anyone who’s observing.
As a mom of little kids, May they all die!
I get you and I say Amen to your prayer! - especially if they fail to repent.
cococandy: That’s why they are firing all of the generals that are telling them not to do it.
He is doing a great job of encouraging people to hate america which leads to more people wanting to hurt our country.
Coco, you are a reasonable person, now take a step back a bit and think about this: Trump's vituperation in the lead up to Maduro's capture and eventual incarcerations are well known. Remember how the legacy media condemned his actions, said a lot of "not very nice" things about him, mocked him and all sorts. Today, Venezuelans (regardless of what american MSM are writing and stuff) are most grateful to Trump for liberating them.
I have read in the news that many Iranians are rooting for Trump to finish the job and eliminate their oppressors.
What Trump is doing is one of the most difficult job ever undertaken by any American president in some 50 years. I don't for once think he does not know what he's doing or appreciate the enormity of what he's into. In fact, I think these terrorist IRGC guys are gradually walking into Trump's trap. I read in the news just a few hours ago that Israel has taken out the new IRGC Military Intelligence Chief, one Major-General something.
I will say let Trump and the Israelis finish the job they started. They're making huge progress as things stand. Coco should not read or listen to what will not add value. Let's stay focused, endure the transient pains inflicted on the world by these last kicks of a dying terrorist regime and the world will be a better place when they're long gone!
DeepSight: + This is very well and soberly written and demonstrates a good grasp of history. What is evident there is the evolution arising from conflict of views - which is natural to the development of humanity. This has little to do with the specific dictates of a particular religion.
Deep, can you explain what you mean by the statement in bold, clearly?
The london mayor did the same. Na to deceive gullible minds like cococandy.
He will need all the two face he can get to push the Islamic agenda
ben, I hope and pray to God that the opposite is happening - that these guys are being led by the Holy Spirit of Truth, to lead them to the Light that is the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. He did it for Saul, who later became Paul - and brought many to the kingdom of God. He can do it for Zohran and all the others who are living in the dark and in ignorance.
cococandy: He actually doesn’t have to believe it to say it.
Sometimes you meet people where they are because that’s how best to relate to them.
I believe in NOTHING the Quran teaches but if I’m a leader who has Muslims in my community , it wouldn’t make me two-faced to address their religious celebrations the way they see it.
There’s nothing in his speech that says he personally believe Jesus was killed. He merely acknowledges that it is what Christians are celebrating
DeepSight: + Nonsense. As history shows, Judeo-Christian background didn't lead to freedom or egalitarian societies. Gradual moral evolution through rebellions, wars did - and the efforts during the age of enlightenment / the renaissance, were key
True to some extent, Deep. But we have to look at the enabling factors (if you like, environment) that allowed this (egalitarian societies) to thrive. Now, It was "rebellion" that made Martin Luther, particularly the posting of his 95 Theses in 1517, that challenged the Catholic Church's practices, especially the sale of indulgences, leading to a significant split in Western Christianity known as the Protestant Reformation. Luther's actions made the Church look inwards and ultimately birthed the age of "enlightenment". People realised that they can read things for themselves (especially the Bible), learn and not be spoon fed by priests and Popes - and the Church leadership agreed!
My point is that whichever way you want to look at it, the Judeo-Christian background still remain the catalyst that is at the root of the freedoms and egalitarian societies that we have going for Western Civilisation as it is today. Luther was a Christian and after him, many other Christian "activists" came to the fore to lead many of the "improvements" in Christendom and in Western Societies that we are enjoying today.
In contrast, the Islamic religion has failed to "evolve" (as you rightly noted) over the centuries - and the result of their backwardness is evident to all as it is today. What I don't understand though is how we have progressives in places like the UK, France and even now I hear Scandinavian countries, all embracing the evil that is inherent in present day Islam. Although I read that it was "paid for". I guess we can't explain away everything, there some things that are better left to time to reveal.
benalvino3: You no be yeye person like the ones I mention 😂😂😂
Alaowei sounds like a reasonable person. Himself and Deep - and then look at Coco, very reserved and reasonable lady. I can relate with those. But the rest - especially buda and Obrig. Those ones are from different planets - possibly aliens, living in their own world 😆😃😃
raumdeuter: Have you visited the hospital or taken that medication
Leftist arr not normal people. They are insane
The guy needs help. Should be remanded in a mental institution. He rants, screams and curse like that’s his food! Typical with liberals though - not surprised. Look at the one who said she identifies as “binary centenary, “foolishnary and stupidnary”. Degenerate cretins.
Obrigardo: Hordes and floods of maga cultists now regretting their vote. This is one disturbing but a well needed trend happening. I said it, they will deny the child sexual predator and say they never knew him.
What a disaster. The epstein files is making a grand come back and the criminals including the demented zionist pedophilic tyrant trump know their days are numbered.
This demented cretin cannot read properly - or he’s incapable of comprehension. You can at least read slowly. Now read slowly what you shared - the last paragraph (in the Thomas Paine post) and take a few minutes to think about it, then come back. The fear of Trump is what will take you to your grave 😃😃😃!
Feelings aren't facts. Mental health issues deserve real help, not rebranding as a new identity. There's so many of these people need actual support. pic.twitter.com/9ScNy4DRAB
Hehehehe - we told one of them here: She whose name cannot be mentioned! They’re so loud and pompous. Empty airheads gallivanting around thinking they know anything.
Obrigardo: I know there's one maga dundee somewhere here who will quote me and say "hey libtard, the dump is alive, yooooonnn" when the child sexual predator shows himself and didn't die.
But let me bask in this great feeling that he will certainly die if not now but soon.
He’s your nemesis, obrig. The way you’re going, you might die before him o o o!!
GloriousGbola: Three weeks ago, ships were sailing through the Strait without any challenge.
Today that is not the case.
And the trump you worship has washed his hands of the mess he created.
I understand that cause and effect may be too much for you to comprehend so I suggest you go back to bragging about how the US has won this special military operation.
This is clearly beyond your bandwidth.
There is a reason I don't bother with you and the tripe you post.
Why are you lot fond of shape-shifting and love to always live in denial when faced with facts? In stead of accepting you are wrong - like gentleman DeepSight will do, you resort to casting aspersions like that obstinate budaatum whom I have left to the good Lord to show His power and might for she has lost her mind and ways. You even write like her (I don't give a rat arse if she thinks she's a he-she at anytime of the day).
All the thrash you wrote up there are irrelevant to the subject of the control of the Strait, but because you are so full of your useless self, you think what you wrote amount to something useful.
raumdeuter: Every family company or nation has contingencies planned for when leaders die but that wont stop them from preventing it. Iran did their best to prevent theirs by limiting public appearances but they were still powerless to stop the killing of their leaders like Xmas chicken
There was a Friday they came out among civilians thinking the US will kill them with civilians only for the man to be killed days later
The Strait of Hormuz control was never in US hands and its not a big deal closing it. It doesnt take any military competence to do it Somali pirates close Suez canal regularly even ragtag Houthi rebels. Any MEND level organization can close a natrow Strait . Mend sef with Henry Okah, Tompolo Boyloaf dem were able to disrupt shopping in the Bight of Bonny that's without state support or extensive budget
Its a desperate sign of losing that the state of Iran is celebrating what any regular group of thugs have done and can do
They are breaking your bones, your eye socket your teeth and you are celebrating that you scratched him
GloriousGbola: A contingency the IRGC have been planning for.
The US decapitated Iran's leadership 3 weeks ago and have since lost control of the Strait of Hormuz and are committed to putting American boots on the ground and are decapitating their own military leadership in the middle of a special military operation.
Americans are now moving their troops to hotels and American military infrastructure is being destroyed by a supposedly incapacitated enemy.
Shock and awe is an overstatement. This was just a firework show that achieved nothing.
Just to chip in that the US was NEVER in control of the Strait. Get your facts right and stop deceiving the gullible ones in here.
"They are not very educated about international politics and history. Most of them only started following politics because of Trump hate. That's why some are surprised that in a war Iran was able to gun down US jets. Something Somalia was able to do 30yrs ago"
raumdeuter: They are not very educated about international politics and history. Most of them only started following politics because of Trump hate. Thats why some are surprised that in a war Iran was able to gun down US jets. Something Somalia was able to do 30yrs ago
GracieX3: 1. You have no guarantee that Iran can be tamed. A regime can always be replaced by a radical one.
Things can swing whichever way, but we have a precedent in Venezuela. The place is open now. Businesses are pouring in. People are going back to Caracas. There is hope. Drug lords crushed. There is peace and joy and love!
GracieX3: 2. The Iraq war had economic ramifications for almost a decade. You are now here talking about short term economic losses when we know that this Iran war can cause problems for years to come.
Yes. But the place is gradually taking shape. I have one in-law who works with Royal Dutch Shell - takes off from Dubai daily to work in one of their oil fields in there, close to Basrah. Iraq is prospering, despite the initial set back. Our problems with the likes of you is this inability to see good in anything Trump does. You all stand (as if una no dey shit o!) to condemn this guy - all the time.
Imagine a Strait of Hormuz governed, not by the Ayatoilets, but rational thinking individuals with the best of interests for the world. Think of all the possibilities we can get with huge wealth in Iran used for the benefits of their own people - and by extension, the world. We have some hardened criminals in Tehran. They need to be tamed or eliminated. It won't be easy to do this - we appreciate that, but we also know that the alternative if we stop now will be far worse!
GracieX3: 3. The biggest exporter of terrorism, in terms of USA, is Saudi. The 9 eleven guys.
Oh well, times have changed. Iran is now the numero uno - and they need to be tamed, NOW!
GracieX3: 4. Both liberals and conservatives are against this war. But like a Trump cultist, you are still defending a useless war.
We see possibilities - opportunities and hope, where you lot think there is none or will never be any.
raumdeuter: The EU since then have been acting like parasites, they even had to be forced to pay their own share of defence to NATO, they expect Daddy Trump to always bail them out
Next week the NATO commander is coming to beg for more money like a child stranded in school coming home to Daddy
They will rather spend all that money on more boat-load of free loaders from enemy territories. They will bring them in, house them, give them their daughters, feed them and lick their arse. But when it comes to defence spending, they will run to America.
raumdeuter: Brief moment of shock and awe is their entire leadership gone. Where they are able to pick any leader they want and kill while on the other side Iran is not able to touch anyone that matters
It got so desperate for Iran that they are now using a cardboard effigy to represent their leader while promoting rumors of Netanyahu death which gullible people like Nateevs swallowed with glee
As in it took two weeks for these nuts to come to that realization that big Yahu - my favourite name for Netanyahu , is still alive! And when it finally sank in, many of them could not believe what their own brain was telling them, that the man is alive. Can you believe that?
raumdeuter: Even Somalia was able to draw blood from US and killed US soldiers check Black Hawk down
Its a war. The US and Israel are going after military targets and leaders not just randomly bombing everywhere like Iran is doing
You think if Israel and US wants to go crazy there wont be more bodies now
They don't understand what's playing out.
The reality is that the longer term gain in having a TAMED Iran (and with a possible end game of having a Iran that is friendly, not a bully to their neighbours, open to trade, not oppressive to their own people - many of whom they have killed and subjugated, etc etc) is far far greater than the transient economic pains we are suffering right now. The world should be thanking Israel and the Americans for what they're doing right now - but will they?
The Ayatoilet regime in Iran are the sponsors of the terror machines we have the world over - from Hamas, Houthi rebels, Hezbollah, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc etc. Just a few days ago, emboldened Islamic terrorists slaughtered some 40 peaceful church goers in Jos, in broad day light and dared anyone to come after them
Should we submit to demonic elements like these? Is this what we all want to continue to live with everywhere in the world?
franchasofficia: And they still returned back to base safely deep inside Iran, isn't that awesome to you?
America no be Russia or any country's mate to talk of ordinary Iran they are doing everything possible to avoid Iranian civilian casualties
Thing is that Iran (and their armchair supporters) have resorted to propaganda. Iran is getting decimated, pummeled and destroyed. That an Apache helicopter and A10s are flying casually in your airspace is a sign that your air force has been decimated. That's a huge humiliation for a country that has spent trillions building missile cities in caves and caverns.
The gullible fall for these types of news and think something useful is going on.
AbdulAkpan: This is how we bury people traditionally.
Christianity came with the preaching of forgiveness. Even when you have been hatched to death, Christian teaching says 'forgive'. Vengeance is of the Lord.
But can you really forgive? She has just buried, may be her only son, and you think she can just forgive the killer! Though time heals.
In traditional burial ceremonies, the elders would send the dead on a mission of mass destruction of his killers. When you witness this rituals, fear will make you never to support evil that could lead to the death of anyone, let alone participate in killing of any kind.
May his soul rest in perfect peace. Amen.
It is so so sad reading this too. But yes, Jesus said to forgive. Leave vengeance to the Lord.
I told you Trump just lifted sanctions against Iran, and Trump just lifted sanctions against Russia oil ..... making those two countries the biggest beneficiaries of the war so far......you have no response. But you are telling me I don't have the points to argue?
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
You are a clown bro.
Guess what? Iran just downed yet another fighter jet, this time around another F15....... the whole crew is missing.
This means Iran has destroyed 4 x F15, 3 x F35, 2 x E-3 AWACS, 5 x KC-135s, 13 x MQ9s...... air-borne equipment alone. And this is all we know that Centcom can not deny.
No one has touched America like this in the modern age.... Trump has exposed the US and deflated its perceived military might.
... but your trophy is Ayatollah 😀😀😀😀😀😀
If the US show the true visuals and real videos (not the black and white ones CENTCOM periodically show to the world) of ALL the hits they've made since this operation began, they will be accused of war crimes!
In war, we expect both sides to record losses. Only a fool will think that the Americans will go into this war expecting to not lose anything! Heck, even Trump said from the first day of this operation that Americans should expect to lose soldiers. So, what are you blabbing away about?
Iran is getting pummeled/destroyed as we speak - and they know it! This propaganda thing they've resorted to will not save them. It is believed that they have their missiles and drone launch sites buried within civilian areas - the reason America and Israeli jets don't have a way to finish them off at the moment, but they're working on that! If American air crafts - the A10s and Apache helicopters can fly in an enemy territory the way they're doing over Iran right now, that's almost an Air Supremacy level of dominance and it will get worse.