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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 12:38pm On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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You said he came out openly with his full chest. Why are you now sending quotes from a bemeruca who I already saw made that accusation ad infinitum ad nauseum?
You know what? Let's wait for him to come and disprove this claim. Is that OK?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 12:33pm On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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Thank you for wasting my time. After looking through I can't find any post that says what you claim.


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You can think whatever you like.
I have a record on this board dating back to 2009.
What about this from bemeruca?

bemeruca:
IjeBos is not pride of Lincoln of Lincoln had a daughter that was 38 years old then, another that just graduated in 2021 and one that is a nurse. Then he had 3 children from another woman, two girls and a son. He was married 3 times. Ijebos is gay
as per my equating you to Ijebos, It's just a feeling I have. Could be true or false, bros. I do not intend to cause any hurt.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 12:03pm On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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Where did he so come out or is this hearsay. Provide the link.
https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=ijebos+is+gay&search=Search

Why do I have this feeling that Ijebos = DeepSight?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 11:40am On Mar 29
nateevs:
Are you pointing out something that MOSSAD, The CIA and MI6 haven't been doing four decades?
Well, I get you. It's a tit for tat world out there.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 11:34am On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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On what ground do you attempt to cast him as gay repeatedly?
Oh, I am not the one who cast him as gay. I understand that himself came out in the open, and as my people will say "with his full chest", to say he's gay.

Let him come and tell us he's not - and I will humbly apologise stop my outbursts and attacks against an innocent man.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 11:29am On Mar 29
TV01:
Could you make the distinction between what people do or their practices, and what Christianity\The Bible\NT actually preaches and instructs Christians to do?. I repeat, Christianity has not "evolved".

The whole charge against ee.slam is that what its texts prescribes, its very tenets are evil and the driver of moose.slim practice.

I can put my money where my mouth is. Even to those who would misrepresent me or my faith. £250 to anyone who can show me wrong in any of the following;

1. An evil, wicked or harmful practice in the NT (not just slavery) or prescribed for Christians that Christians have evolved away from.
2. Why Christians fought and died to abolish slavery when as claimed the bible supports it?

So again, the Scriptures remain unchanged. There have been and will always be departures from scripture by those who call themselves Christians or claim to follow Christ. Different sects and denominations may adopt certain unscriptural practices, but the faith first delivered to the saints however remains.

Just like we don't judge ee.slam by individual sects or personal practice, but what its texts say, likewise the Christian texts are there for all to read.

See free money - and nobody has to sell anybody to claim it cool


TV
The bold part. Are you saying Christians still practice slavery today? If yes, can you show me an example where this is practiced? It is important that we understand each other so we don't waste time trying to reason out of context.

For the point 2 you listed - abolishment of slavery, like I pointed out in one of my responses to DeepSight, the Holy Spirit of the Most High is still working in the hearts and minds of those that truly believe and are willing to be led by Him . It is the Spirit that leads, Just like Jesus said He would do to those that believe when Christ ascended up in glory.

John 14:26 (KJV)
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things..


You have to come to that realisation that the Spirit of the Lord is active and alive today working in the hearts and minds of those that love the Lord. It is He who guides us. The Holy Spirit is behind all that we have achieved and accomplished as a civilisation - the Western Civilisation. It is the Spirit of the Lord that works actively to bring about positive changes to societies (if you will believe this), including the abolishment of slavery, empowerment of the weak, promotion of egalitarian and just societies and all that is positive and true. You will observe that all these are at the foundations of Western Civilisation that Islam is hell bent on destroying.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m):
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 10:43am On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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What do you gain by this?
Not my gain. It's his. And because the Lord wants him to do this, He loved him, He has sent someone like him (ijebos) to come out in the open and show others the way to their redemption.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 10:10am On Mar 29
Ijebos:

https://www.nairaland.com/8643415/what-me-husband-gained-after

Not too late to retrace your steps.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m):
DeepSight:
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But he knew that the slavery of his day was bondage, and that the slave did not have a free choice in it. Why would he then ask the slave to accept that bondage in his spirit, going so far as to say that the slave must not be pretending about it: that it must not be eye service but must be real?

Let us accept that Saul said many unacceptable things including advertising his male chauvinism by saying that women must be silent in fellowship.
And there you go. You’re bringing the natural man thing into this conversation- the way buda would. It won’t work. Besides, you probably are making a wrong assumption about the "slavery of Paul's days" You have to go back in time and get surrounded by the circumstances of Paul's days for you to fully appreciate what the dynamics of play was back then. You are using the 21st century mirror to look at what was the norm between 40 - 70 AD. It won't fit. It won't work!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 6:02am On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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Once again I think you have spoken very well here, and in fact the truth is that the bold is the way I would apply it.

However, I felt compelled to point out that far from denounce a worldly norm, no matter how "legal" it was in its day, scripture sought to convince the enslaved to buy into it from the core of their spirits.

That is not Christlike - after all, Christ denounced many norms of his day.
Paul while writing the books (letters) of Ephesians and Colossians had a target audience in mind - as led by the Holy Spirit. That audience, as far as I can see, wasn't baby Christians, newbies and unbelievers. Read my earlier post up there. The people he wrote those books and letters to perfectly understood what admonitions/messages the Holy Spirit passed across through Paul. I don't think DeepSight is ready to understand this.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 5:48am On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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Let me add (mainly for the benefit of ono and TV01) that the NT ALSO ADVOCATES SLAVERY.
In these two diabolical and insidious verses, it seeks to reach into the minds of slaves and convince them to sincerely accept slavery even in their spirits.

Ephesians 6:5 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ;"

Colossians 3:22 "Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord."
At the time of the writing of the books of Ephesians and Colossians, the Romans were the sole superpower of the world. Slavery was the norm.....never frowned at in the society as it is today.

We discussed the evolution of Christianity earlier on. I thought you already acknowledged that the Christians have evolved through the ages to become the most accommodating, compassionate, loving and heaven-ward looking religion on earth as things stand today.

Have you now changed your position, after reading those verses in Colossians and Ephesians?

I will advise that you "apply" the teachings from those two verses to present day "workers or subordinates" (replace slave) and supervisors or leaders (replace masters) and re-read the verse again. Might help you.


From the foregoing, you can and should be able to tell now that reading the Bible, just like any other book, will make it look like a useless or crazy book, right. But like I pointed out earlier:

1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them , because they are spiritually discerned.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 3:22am On Mar 29
DeepSight:
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And oh, just by the way. If you truly believe your last paragraph then what is the issue with me quoting scripture? After all you believe that all scripture is inspired of God and beneficial not so?
You did well to point this out DeepSight. I will answer.

You are not yet ready for the interpretation of that scriptural verse. If we start to discuss this verse now, you will bring in the wisdom of men, logic and other thoughts into it. So, no point. You have to be humble enough to allow the Holy Spirit to rule over that your cocky, "I know something" attitude. You get what I mean? Anyway, if you don't get it, forget about it grin
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 3:18am On Mar 29
bemeruca:
This is why Cococandy hates rich people 😂😂
Haha bas..very funny.

But Coco is a nice, kind hearted lady. I have read some of her posts. She meant well, it's just that her case is like that of an eagle who's eating worms with the hens on the ground instead of soaring high and feeding on big games in the skies above. Hopefully with time she will hear the voice of reason and heed the call to change ranks.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m):
TV01:
By now it's clear that you do not come here to discuss or debate in any way that could be considered honest. It's a handful of clichés and cookie cutter narratives, outside of which there is very little evidence of any meaningful content.

I wrote on this very topic, on this same thread, not that long ago. In response to a claim you made,
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5556#137573719

Firstly, Christianity has not "evolved". It remains exactly the same - unchanging. It's the NT.
@ono, please stop saying Christianity has evolved. Thanks.
Thanks TV01.

You should try to understand at my reasons for using the word “evolve” in this context. Don’t get me wrong, I fully understand the points you raised, but when you’re dealing with people who are not of the faith, we use an approach well suited to their needs - without losing the desired impact.

DeepSight is comparing Christianity to an archaic, violent and most likely a false religion (based on many of the evidences presented) called Islam. Now, Christianity is a lot much older than Islam. Islam came to the world in the 6th to 7th century AD and quickly gained adherents largely by force of arms.

Anyways, in my response to DeepSight quoting verses related to slavery and stuff from Deuteronomy and other books, it’s important to note that all the things quoted in those books are not practised by Christians today. Those instructions were even meant for the Hebrews - the children of Israel.

You can’t deny that many of the Christian practices of the Middle Ages by Catholics and even some Protestant Christians have all given way to the voice of reason and knowledge and the overwhelming influence of the Holy Spirit, something Islam has been unable to achieve and get their adherents to rid themselves of. In fact, as basilico pointed out in one of his entries, a female Muslim professor was seen encouraging Islam adherents to practice slavery and take women of their captors as goods to be sold or something like that.

Now speaking to what you probably are thinking, we know that:

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness 2 Timothy 3:16 KJV - but this is not the time to dwell on this bit of the scripture.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 10:32pm On Mar 28
nateevs:
The Houthis have officially entered the war.
I laugh in Burmese
grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 7:54pm On Mar 28
Alikoooooooooo:
The term master and slave in Christianity might be lost in translation.

Jesus did the strange by his time in defending a woman caught in adultery from an angry mob. In his time Jesus hung out with the lowest in society so it rather unlikely he would have endorsed slavery.

You only endorse what you never relate with. I.e Endorse the bombing of Iran is from those who are negative to Iran.

Jesus had no Master and he feared no one. He was completely free of the system. You Extend who you are others.


if I said " you are my dog " this generation will say I'm saying we are friends. If I said it 50 years ago it would be said I was being derogatory.
Before you go very far with your liberal mumbo jumbo, let's look at those statements in bold.

The first one sounds like cognitive dissonance to me. The Iran analogy you painted is unrelated to the first statement, shallow at best. Who told you (or what makes you think) everyone opposed to the Iranian Islamic regime and their IRGC is ALL out against everything Iranian - and the Iranian people? Are you ok?

For the second statement, you don't sound like someone who knows Jesus - another buda, at best. What system do you mean in your statement? Again, are you sure you're OK?

The dog bit in your comment in your last statement, I dunno what to say tbh.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 6:27pm On Mar 28
DeepSight:
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I agree with you, Christianity certainly does not teach these things and has evolved. I was only pointing out the fact that these are contained in the OT as well.

I may well add that the NT preaches that slaves should obey their masters. thereby endorsing slavery. But as you said, it has evolved.

Islam remains significantly backward in many places.
I find it hard to believe that you liberals -many of you professing Christians, you know all these things YET, you blindly enable policies, manipulate laws, encourage the immigration of these "primitive" people into the West. Imagine someone, a professor in her own right, still preaching these archaic, devilish teachings in this day and age, even getting an account on X! Isn't this the suicidal things about the West that me, Bas, Raum, Benalvi, and Bemeruca we are all about on this board?

What will it take for us to point the folly in all you leftist guys that what you are doing will destroy what we cherish, that we were brought up with, that shaped us and shaped Western Civilisation from the destructive path you guys tow? What?? Look at buda. What can one do to help her?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 6:05pm On Mar 28
DeepSight:
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To be clear there are similar teachings in the Old Testament.

Deuteronomy 21:10–14
"When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife. And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou thou hast humbled her."

Numbers 31:15–18
"And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

Deuteronomy 20:13–14
"And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee."

Judges 21:20–23
"Therefore they commanded the children of Benjamin, saying, Go and lie in wait in the vineyards; And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh, and go to the land of Benjamin... And the children of Benjamin did so, and took them wives, according to their number, of them that danced, whom they caught: and they went and returned unto their inheritance, and repaired the cities, and dwelt in them.
Deep_blind (won't call you DeepSight), the difference between Christianity and Islam is that while you have Islamists - like the professor bas quoted up there still preaching and admonishing their adherents to follow 7th century "teachings", Christianity has evolved over the years to do away with all you have quoted from the Old Testament.

You will never see a "Christian Professor" teaching people to do anything slavery in the 21st Century! Now, if you don't have anything meaningful things to share, please back off!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 5:57pm On Mar 28
budaatum:
Jesus was talking to Peter whom he assumed was being satanic. But it says a lot about you who has no control over yourself and assumes buda is not in control of themself.

You are a puppet so must think everyone is a puppet, and that's very said, especially when the Jesus you mentioned is supposed to empower you.
I have absolute control over myself, by the grace of the Lord Almighty. buda is lost. She is dead lost and the problem with her is that she does not know this. Nothing can be worst than when you are sick and you do not know you are unwell. Incidentally, this is the state of almost all liberals the world over - shortsighted, arrogant, proud, resentful, loud, boastful, without natural affection, manipulators, argumentative...endless.

buda, I am tired of responding and doing merry go round things on issues.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m):
budaatum:
Of what use is your belief in your god, you make me ask, since your holy book must obviously not have Informed you to respect others, and you are incapable of deriving that knowledge from "love your neighbours".
Oh, I should clarify. This wasn't directed at "you" as a person. It is to the deceitful and wicked spirit that's controlling you. Remember what Jesus said to Peter, his own friend and disciple?

But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Matthew 16:23 KJV

So that even though he was talking to Peter, in reality, it was the evil devilish spirit in Peter that Jesus was rebuking. You know, that passage up there aptly describe you and your likes in this "place". I hope you can relate and will be humble enough to at the least allow God's word to penetrate that your hardened stony heart.

For he is our God; And we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand.To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your heart, As in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness: - Psalm 95:7-8 KJV

Know also that I admire you. All that talent you have, don't let the Devil waste it all for you. Let the Lord put it to good use in your life.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 9:23pm On Mar 27
budaatum:
buda is an atheist who knows gods are created by humans who write stories about gods.
Gbenu e so un, opuro.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 1:16am On Mar 27
bemeruca:
You are telling lies as usual.
buda lies a lot.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 1:15am On Mar 27
IMAliyu2:
Lol, lmao even.
Trump admin has burned out any political capital they initially had after the elections.

There's still plenty of time to wipe out Islamist terrorists in Iran. Fingers crossed.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 12:48am On Mar 27
budaatum:
Some do believe that others believe in talking snakes, so they believe they beat their wives because of a verse in a god book.

They themselves do not love their own neighbours however, like they read they must in verses in their own god book, but I guess that's because their god book might not be as convincing as the Quran except when they are using their own god book to grab land.
Hmmm. That's an eye opener of sorts. Are you a muslim, if I may ask?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m):
budaatum:
"Their God" really never told them anything, ono.

Some men sat down and wrote a book about a god they created and convinced you it spoke to them, and the Palestinians are not having it. And if you had bothered to read books like these, you too would have developed your mind to reason and understand the clues better.

Its like ọmọ onilẹ goes to Oyingbo to do fake CofO to come and claim their great grandfather never sold the land to me.
So, this is how buda got her mind "fried". I have read the book in the link you shared. I have the book in my book shelve. My daughter read the book. Thankfully, we didn't get our minds fried and turn rebellious against God simply by reading some man made up fables and stories. We always knew there is a limit to how much our brainpower can process. Even as a professional engineer, I always knew there's limit to how much we know about our world. We believe our existence in this world is not based only on the laws of nature. There is a supernatural power that makes everything work in perfect unison in this world and in the universe. I've engaged many of your type in England and Scotland. I leave you in God's loving arms buda for your redemption. For with our God, nothing shall be impossible.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 7:25pm On Mar 26
budaatum:
I know, ono, because I educate myself. There's after all lots of books one can read on the subject so one is not just brainwashed.

Even your Jesus advised it so you may gain understanding, but I guess that's not what your own holy spirit tells you.
You're doing your shape shifting thing again. Stay on the subject. Don't generalise.

"Israelis were chasing non-Jews out of their houses and were claiming their land because they read in some book that their God gave it to a man named Abraham, or was it Moses? They were never quite clear. "

1. What did "their God" tell them about the land, really?
2. On whose authority (or how did you arrive at that conclusion) do you stand to tell them that what "their God" told them was not quite clear?
3. The "some book" you mention is the Torah - the book our Old Testament is based. Are you so filled with the spirit of the dark age now that you don't even know what the "Bible" is?
3. You quoted a passage in the book of Deuteronomy. Do you even understand what that verse of the scripture says?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m):
budaatum:
No they were not "minding its business"!

Israelis were chasing non-Jews out of their houses and were claiming their land because they read in some book that their God gave it to a man named Abraham, or was it Moses? They were never quite clear.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-occupation-50-years-of-dispossession/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/25/no-israel-prosecutions-for-killing-palestinian-civilians-in-occupied-west-bank-since-start-of-decade

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/former-israeli-pm-olmert-explains-why-he-believes-his-country-is-committing-war-crimes
How will you buda know? We know where you stand in all these. Meanwhile when others say the world is black and white, you and your ilks will say there's a shade of grey people are not looking at. Israel brought their own "shade of grey" about how God gave them the land, and you lot have decided it has to be black and white - how they got the land. No "God" thing should come in the picture. May the good Lord help you and your shape-shifting misguided lot.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 4:39pm On Mar 26
GracieX3:
Lol....sorry. Religious books aren't history.

The Bible claims that the Israelites were enslaved by the Egyptians, which isn't true.
Madam, I have been following your post up until I read the words in bold. So, now, I can now stop reading your posts. Thank you.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 4:37pm On Mar 26
bayelsaowei:
I hope as they prepare to deal a final blow, they preserve the lives of the Iranians they are trying to emancipate.
Now, that's a surprise response from a leftist Bayelsa man. Strange but good!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 3:40am On Mar 26
nateevs:
Where did you come from?
Who are you ?

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