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PureFace1:
To be honest the bases have become liabilities for US forces because US doesn't really need it to attack Iran they can just attack Iran from the Sea through their super carriers and Navy, the latest drones warfare have make defending land bases very difficult.

I laugh at the idiots mocking the US they think this is US defeat but it is just taking out one of the leverages Iran can use to blackmail the US in a war, when US move out their bases away from Gulf states Iran won't have reason to target Gulf countries again in case of a war and US moving their bases away from Gulf states wouldn't stop them from striking whenever they still want to. I bet Iran is not smiling about it like many dunce here because Iran would have to find a way to strike US mainland if they want to retaliate against US in the future if they no longer have those US bases to strike.

Two things Iran can use as leverages to blackmail the US are strait of Hormuz and US bases in Gulf states, Strait of Hormuz is getting another route that Oman control and US is moving their bases away. Iran wouldn't even be happy about it like many dunce here because the implications is very bad for them, they will lack the capability to target the US asymmetrically.

Iran will have to find a way to fight US navy at sea which is almost suicidal or develop missiles to strike US mainland directly which Iran won't even be happy to try or dare to even if they have the capability because it mean forcing the US to put ground invasion on the table.

The most sensible post I've read so far on the topic.

Children of destruction and Islamist terrorists only reason with their heads hitting the ground - and can't see and think far.

antimason:
Shebi you would give birth too. May your kids pay for your sins too

You don't understand what's up ore mi.

See, these guys indoctrinate their kids - right from the time they are conscious of their environment, to hate Jews and Christians - and see them as their enemies. Treat them like animals and kill them. So, we are dealing with an entity that thrives on indoctrination and a terrorist ideology.

And they will not give up. They have sworn an oath to themselves - women and children and all to die for that "cause". The ultimate goal is the destruction of Israel.

So, what would you have Israel do? Sit back and watch with glee as they get destroyed? This one na roforofo fight that morality has been thrown out the window. Decorum and decency not allowed. Survival fighting is like that - and the hypocrite UN body, that has been infiltrated by Islamic terrorist apologists know these. Let them best man live and the evil one die.

I see that whenever reasonable people point out that Hamas started this on Oct 7, terrorist sympathizers quickly deflect and change the conversation to "Israel started this before Oct 7th". How can you reason with people who are deaf and dumb and kick the can down "historical" road in their attempt to look justified for their evil acts?

Believe this cock and bull story about Trump rants at your own peril. The MSM is filled with all sorts of worthless people now.

franchasng:
I said I am married, my wife earn big but I take care of my family's financial responsibility up to 98% or more.


My wife only spend her income on herself, her family, relatives. I still take care of her own personal needs. This also applies to many of my married friends and family members. I have friends in America too that cater for their family up to 75% despite having a working class wife. It is like a norm for most Igbo men anyway, except the man is seriously struggling financially. We Igbo men derive joy and pride in being the sole provider in our marriage. It could be a bad practice based on today's norms but that's how most of us Igbo men are wired.

Does your wife earn more than you do from your business - in the current arrangement, year on year ?

I ask because it’s one thing to work and handle your family responsibilities, and be comfortable doing that. It’s another thing entirely when you can handle your family responsibilities and have a wife that earns better than you do.

dappydozzy:
That is what you heard, but you don't have any evidence, the US can just cook up any excuse, false evidence or story to attack or invade any country. They are warmongers.

Iran has denied several times it is not pursuing nuclear military applications .

That was how they said Iraq has weapons of mass destruction even provided false kangaroo evidence presented by the CIA director and Secretary of State Colin Powell before the UN security council .After the invasion, nothing was found

We should trust what the oppressive Ayatollah regime (a regime that killed sponsored demonstrators) in Iran says over US intelligence report. Are you sure you have not been bought or brainwashed?

Kushites:
YOU LIAR WITH NO CONSCIENCE.

IRAN HAS ZERO TO DO WITH TERRORISM IN "AFRICA".

THE TERRORISM IN NIGERIA WAS CAUSED BY THE ILLEGAL AMERICAN INVASION OF LIBYA WHICH FLOODED THE SAHEL WITH THOUSANDS OF WEAPONS, AND SUNNI ISLAM GROUPS BACKED BY US ALLIES LIKE QATAR AND UAE BECAME YOUR ISIS AND BOKO HARAM.

IN FACT TURKEY INVITED IRAN TO DRIVE OUT ISIL FROM THEIR COUNTRY, AND THEY DID, IN LESS THAN 1 MONTH.

You have verifiable evidence to back this your claims - about Turkey?

When you're done with providing evidence, can you the tell us why Iran backs the Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas and have sleeper cells all across Europe?

Ijebosc:
See mental instability.

But don't worry, none of your posts have been sensible.
So, they are actually doing you a favor deleting them.
You know the saying; "Better to be thought a ____, then speak and remove all doubt."

So, you're the bot then. Probably Seun himself. Oh well, if you are Seun (not very sure), I have something to tell you.

Remember I have come this far with you from your humble beginnings. I joined Nairaland when it was at its infancy - you can check my profile to verify this. If your platform is now skewed to silence voices like mine and allow others to cast aspersions at those who started this journey with you and you silence them when they want to respond, I tell you, you are a disgrace to web creators.

IjeBos:
Yes, I'm telling you all about the US from my ghetto in the US while you are telling us all about the US from your ghetto in Nigeria.
Listen, don't get personal here. You'll lose.
I will embarrass you as I already have.
Ask Bemeruca, Slyfoxx or Raumdeuter for references.

But, it's not what I think, it's what the words mean.
And honestly given your track record and that you seem to have little understanding of everything you post, you probably should stop thinking for yourself.
You still haven't proven you aren't gay. How come?

Having confirmed my fears (I want to believe that indeed Nairaland's bots are programed to largely silence conservatives), I will not engage you (and many of your types) anymore on this board - feels like pouring water on stone. You can type whatever you like, you are now free in a place where you have leverage. It is now time to un-follow this thread. God speed!

IjeBos:
Do you even understand wat you are trying to post?

A legal immigrant is an immigrant that has legal status.
Once the judge granted him a "withholding of removal" he was here under some legal process.
Thus he is in the US legally even though he entered illegally.
The same as someone granted asylum or someone who got a visa.

What I think ChatGpt is trying to tell you is that he is not a permanent legal resident like a Permanent Resident or Citizen.
The withholding of removal affords him indefinite legal status until the order is terminated.

Every legal immigrant is only here in the US because of some legal process.
I am here legally because I Naturalized through the Naturalization law. That Naturalization made me a citizen and a permanent legal resident.
A person who seeks asylum(no matter how they entered) would also be here legally under the asylum legal process until they had their asylum hearing.
Abrego, once a judge granted him 'withholding of removal', is here legally until that order is removed thus the reason the Supreme Court told the Trump administration to facilitate his return.

Getting clearer to me every day now that Seun Osewa's Nairaland antispam bot has been programed to largely silence conservative voices. Well, we will not be deterred, we will continue to speak with common sense and be the voice of reason for all those undecided to choose above liberal stupidity and moral failings.

So, you want us to believe what you "think" about American immigration because you are Ijebos? We should not reason and think for ourselves in this jet, information and enlightenment age? We should read now and have at the back of our minds what Ijebos thinks, because he lives in a ghetto somewhere in the US? Let me try this and see if antispam bot will ban me again after this post.

IjeBos:
This post is unhinged.
Abrego Garcia was a legal immigrant. He was protected from being removed by a court. And that process makes him here legally.
You seem not to know, people go to court because the government has not complied with the law.
And so, when a court rules against the government it means that their actions were unlawful.
Trump didn't bring back Abrego out of some benevolence. He brought him back because a federal judge and the Supreme Court forced him to.
But, I'm not going to hand feed you the information.
You should care more about sounding knowledgeable when you speak than I care about you being knowledgeable
I've been talking about this case and what was going to happen (which did) since it started.
Knowledge is free. Avail yourself of it.

Even further, honestly most of what you have written here and, in this forum, sounds uninformed.
It sounds like you read biased articles and combined with your own bias (you want Trump to be some good guy) has negatively warped your understanding of anything you talk about.
You basically have emotionally formed understanding of the issues you talk about.

It's not any hate for DJT that causes me to believe what I do, it's that I read vociferously because I have an attachment to logic, facts and not speaking out of ignorance or emotion.

Just to point out that I have tried to respond to this Ijebos's post 5 times now and got banned by Seun's antispam bot. One of the thing posted is this clear evidence in this snip below - which showed that Ijebos is a fraud. I will post more after now.

FreeStuffsNG:
Yinmu.

Like Macron said, "Trump thinks he is on a TV show".

They will be hit las las by Iranian missiles and turn to ashes like others.

If US show the true photos of what they’ve destroyed in Iran in the past one month - not all these wayo photos you’re showing here o, the world will accuse the US of War Crimes.

You’re here spewing gibberish, you clearly don’t understand what’s going on.

ijebosb:
You believe Trump acts within the law?
His signature Tarriff policy was so wildly illegal and unconstitutional his mostly appointed Supreme Court shot him down
He stopped the border crossings by declaring an emergency and suspending laws.
He uses emergencies like most autocrats to get around laws instead of working to amend them like most Dem Presidents do.

Dude, you really need to step back.
Most of what you write sounds like uneducated ramblings.

And when he does use his "emergency powers" they get challenged in the courts. When they get shot down, he complies -tries another approach to have his way. Never has he for once gone against the law. I heard most of his executive orders are getting challenged in courts.

The Abrego Garcia case is still fresh in our minds - a Democrat Senator worked tirelessly for the illegal alien to be taken back to the US. I was surprised to see the US return this guy from where he was transported to in South America, to face the due process of law. The DHS got a plane to fly him back! That's rule of law in action. If Trump is a medieval king as some crazy loose nuts recently protested against him, Abrego will probably be in Maiduguri or Sambisa Forest somewhere in Nigeria by now. Abrego's case is just one of many where Trump complied with the law. I heard the White House Ball Room project was even challenged in courts and the project nearly stopped.

People like Ijebos, living in the US, will never see any of these - because of their hate for DJT. Blinded by their dislike of the man, they will do anything and everything to shoot him down.

bayelsaowei:
Trump does what he says. What ever hate, chaos or vile utterances he makes, he either implements them or tries to implement them.

And I don’t blame him. It is the people that staunchly support and enable him nonetheless that I blame.

The problem with Trumps decisions is that it mainly only benefits him and his cronies. His decisions barely benefit the world at large or the American populace. Check out all his decisions. It only comes with chaos/destruction/madness.

Bro, I disagree. The man acts within the ambit of the law ALL the time. You can't fault him on that one. Implementing and trying to implement are miles apart o!

Most of what he's gone after were the the results of the failed policies and governance of liberals and their democrat Presidents. When Trump comes with policies bent on radically changing what evils the democrats have done, they scream blue murder, work with all their might to derail and undermine him.

Look at the Southern Border in the US.

Can you compare what it is today to what it was under slow_poke Biden?
Do people in the Southern States of Texas and Arizona feel better protected today than when they were under Biden?
Are drug dealers still roaming freely in major states and cities in the US like they did under Biden?


I have argued that it is better for the Iranians to live their lives free from oppression, repression, subjugation and slavery under the Mullahs regime than stay put. We are a month into this operation against the Iranians. These guys have been preparing for this time (and also against their prosperous neighbours) for some 50 years. It is never going to be a cake walk ousting the Mullahs. Any reasonable and sane person should know this! And y'all think Trump does not know

cococandy:
Can you?

Because Trump just gave guns to what amount to militants in Iran and tomorrow he’ll start saying he wants to go liberate them from militancy.

Are republicans able to arrive at these conclusions on your own or must we hold your hands?

Trump says a lot of things - and like I said sometime ago, I think he talks the way he does to deliberately distract from what his true intentions are. He kinds of revel in the chaos and frenzy his words sends liberals into.

What I do for my own peace of mind and sanity is to wait for the end results - whether good or bad. I can live with that.

cococandy:
This will surely liberate them. No?

Add to the fact that we say they can’t have nuclear weapons because they’ll bomb us yet we are the only country who have ever used nuclear weapons on others and still threaten to.

One of your friends in here accused me of not being able to see a "cause-effect" reaction, despite clear evidence to demonstrate such. Surely, you understand what I mean, but if you don't, well, don't worry about it.

benalvino3:
So I can't point out that cococandy like the killing of babies in the womb? It's her passion not mine.

How is that so? Coco, is this true? I find it very hard to believe, but let me hear directly from you. I trust you can explain these things to my understanding.

benalvino3:
With gullibility everywhere?

I appreciate, it's hard. But with God, nothing shall be impossible. Have faith in God bro. We pray for them.

cococandy:
I’m an emotional liberal screaming into a lake or whatever you guys call it. Please don’t call me reasonable.

Reasonable in this context being someone who sits back and looks at what is going and says yea that’s alright? No thanks.

You’re not the one who has to go work today to hold the hands of kids barely into their 20s who will never walk again because DJT can’t handle his emotions. You get to be “reasonable” from a safe distance. Not all of us have that luxury.

Oh you read on the news that Iranians want him to liberate them? Why didn’t I think of doing that?

Whose news BTW? American media right? Same Iranians whose kids are being leveled in schools and hospitals? Of course American media told you they love it.

That they are enjoying the feeling of Trump bombing their bridges while they’re are probably on it. Threatening their power plants on which many of them depend.

This is 2026, You can find whatever information that fits your mindset if you look hard enough on the internet. I’m certain any of them who were under the illusion that Trump would make things better for their country have quickly become disillusioned.

But pls don’t call me reasonable. I find it condescending even if you don’t mean it that way.

The bold. I am about the Zohran comment you made - and the generality of what you post on this board. I find your post much mature and balanced than from some others here in your circle. Of course I know and appreciate your liberal inclinations and I don't begrudge you. We can't all have the same leanings and outlook about things in this life.

Freedom doesn't come easy. The Iranians appreciate that sacrifices must be made to free them from the subjugation they have endured this past 47 years.

If you read some of my posts in here, I've had to condemn Trump's actions in some way. I appreciate that governance is not for the faint of hearts and the "lilly livered". Politics is never a fair game.

mynd1:
Another more brutal spoke person will replace him. You can never kill an ideology.

You will need to tell that to Hamas. They're cooling their heels off somewhere right now (that's if they even exist anymore), after the Gaza experience. Did you hear pim from them since this war started?

ijebosb:
Nice conversation.
You are having a conversation about who are reasonable people with a man caught trying to phish people's ip addresses and who lies here daily about living in the US

Does that seem reasonable to you?
Do you think you yourself are not an "alien, living in their own world"?

Ijebos, it's actually a refreshing thing to do when you take that step and put in some effort to see the good in everyone. Hate destroys. Breeds divisions. Like I stated in one of my earlier posts, in the end, we all sleep on one bed (except maybe the likes of buda and some others, whom it appears, from some of their conversations, that they have the ability to split in two and still remain human ) when we return from our work everyday. We should all appreciate the common things we all share and work to make people better.

cococandy:
When MGT is the voice of reason, you have to evaluate your actions

MTG does not possess the ability or cannot see the bigger picture (and the sacrifices needed to get things done), I'm afraid to say. She will learn.

cococandy:
You must not like me very much because I can’t stand child molesters. No excuses. Nothing like God is using them for some yeye stuff that doesn’t even make sense to anyone who’s observing.

As a mom of little kids, May they all die!

I get you and I say Amen to your prayer! - especially if they fail to repent.

cococandy:
That’s why they are firing all of the generals that are telling them not to do it.

He is doing a great job of encouraging people to hate america which leads to more people wanting to hurt our country.

Coco, you are a reasonable person, now take a step back a bit and think about this: Trump's vituperation in the lead up to Maduro's capture and eventual incarcerations are well known. Remember how the legacy media condemned his actions, said a lot of "not very nice" things about him, mocked him and all sorts. Today, Venezuelans (regardless of what american MSM are writing and stuff) are most grateful to Trump for liberating them.

I have read in the news that many Iranians are rooting for Trump to finish the job and eliminate their oppressors.

What Trump is doing is one of the most difficult job ever undertaken by any American president in some 50 years. I don't for once think he does not know what he's doing or appreciate the enormity of what he's into. In fact, I think these terrorist IRGC guys are gradually walking into Trump's trap. I read in the news just a few hours ago that Israel has taken out the new IRGC Military Intelligence Chief, one Major-General something.

I will say let Trump and the Israelis finish the job they started. They're making huge progress as things stand. Coco should not read or listen to what will not add value. Let's stay focused, endure the transient pains inflicted on the world by these last kicks of a dying terrorist regime and the world will be a better place when they're long gone!

DeepSight:
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This is very well and soberly written and demonstrates a good grasp of history.
What is evident there is the evolution arising from conflict of views - which is natural to the development of humanity. This has little to do with the specific dictates of a particular religion.

Deep, can you explain what you mean by the statement in bold, clearly?