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DeepSight:
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Remember I said I see nothing wrong with insisting on IDs.
I am just telling you the reality on ground in America.

Since you're here with us in Lagos, are you sure Ijebos willl not see things differently from how you see it? - just saying o o!

TV01:
Wouldn't it be safer if you simply stayed away from my mentions? I have been clear. The message of the gospel has not changed or evolved. The practices and behaviour of sects or individuals who claim to be Christian certainly has.


TV

Ha, that was fast. It's fine. I will steer clear.

DeepSight:
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I had to come back to this.

Trump is not the leader of the free world. The free world has disowned him and he does not espouse freedom, he is a proponent and fan of dictatorship and tyranny.

Yeah. I don't give a rat ass about that.

DeepSight:
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Personally I dont really have a problem with insisting on IDs to vote to be honest. But the truth is just that the way America is configured, they know already that the minorities are far less likely to have IDs owing to the fact that a higher percentage of them live somewhat economically shambolic and "scattered" lives. So its a thing they understand well. And they are doing it to diminish the minority vote, nothing more.

Mind you, I still say there is nothing wrong with asking for IDs.

America is weird in many things, there are only a couple of countries in the world where a felon can contest elections.

Bro, C'mon! If Nigeria - ranked as the poorest country on Earth right now, having fallen to that decrepit spot by displacing the former numero uno - India, still require IDs to vote in our elections, how is it that the "poor" in the US cannot get IDs, wherever they might be, to go to vote?

Perhaps, Ijebos will have something to write about now. He will say I am not living in the US, how will I know?

DeepSight:
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I am trying my best to remain clear and consistent with you, but it appears you need me to kowtow to your reading of things before you can proceed. Note that I am not a Christian, and as such it really is not my business what a Christian wants to abide by or not. What is clear to me is that -

1. The same God Christians worship made barbaric commandments in the Old Testament (including orders for genocide)

2. The same Jesus worshipped by Christians repeatedly quoted the Old Testament in many things. He would ask, what does the law of Moses tell you, for example, and when asked what it takes to enter the Kingdom of heaven he summarized the law as being loving God and loving your neighbor (and this is a summary of the ten commandments - the first four dealing with God and the last six dealing with your neighbor)

In light of the foregoing, tell me, is it not reasonable to say that it is questionable to languidly and carelessly wave away the Old Testament and its laws? Is it your position that the Old Testament has been abolished? Has it been "cancelled" the way Muslims say that newer scripture cancels older scripture? You tell me, if that is what you think.

Tell me specifically, have the ten commandments been abolished?

Have all the commandments towards love, fairness, justice, honesty and humility in the Old Testament been abolished?

Are Christians not still bound by them?

Or is it only when a Christian sees a command that he does not like that he remebers that Alhaji Jesus has changed things?

Go ahead and tell me.

You are the one trying to hold me to a thing I never said. I never said "Christians are bound by the law" for example. That is your inference. I can understand why you leap to that inference but it misses my position. I dont think Christians are bound by all of the law (I gave you the example of the edict against shaving facial hair to show you that there are many petty and absurd rules therein - the books of Deuteronomy and Leviticus are a sad read full of nonsensical and petty injunctions) - BUT - no one can argue that the God that Christians worship (someone who is said to be the same yesterday, today and forever) once made such injunctions and prescriptions and no one can deny that it is worrisome that he would.


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We fulfill promises, laws are not "fulfilled" - no one makes such a usage of language either in law or everyday life. Laws are either obeyed, disobeyed or enforced. So quit the petty attempt at the professional ad hominem.

Speaking theologically however, I would say that Christ meant that the entire thrust of the events of the Old Testament found fulfillment in his coming. Certainly not that the laws and rules therein were fulfilled by him. If anything he dismissed quite a few of the said laws and rules (On Divorce/ On Revenge/ On the Sabbath, to mention a few). Thus you are the one being absurd and failing to use or understand language properly if you speak about law being fulfilled.

The facts remain -

1. Both OT and NT endorsed slavery
2. Christians and the Church justified slavery (and the murder of alleged witches) with bible verses.

Defend that.

Just to chip in that the Church approach issues differently now - standards haven't changed though. I used the word "differently" so TV01 will not be pissed with the word "evolve". I hope I am safe to do this, TV01?

DeepSight:
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Yes and many non Nigerians have those IDs.

No, I live in Lagos. Always have, from birth and likely always will, despite the temptations to move.

As crazy as Lasgidi is, I have a true love for it.

So, then, if the leader of the free world (US) request that voters should have an ID to vote, is this out of place? Is there really something sinister that can be tied to this as many democrats are saying about this? Isn't it even a strange thing that such is happening in a country like the US in this day and age?

Even the non-Nigerians among us present an ID to vote!

DeepSight:
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Not expats but surely you know that many foreigners from neighbouring countries routinely vote in our elections. Especially in the North.

We do use IDs to vote in Nigeria, don't we - never mind that the Northerners even allow their herd of cattle to vote, from what I gather (however true that may be)?

You sound (write) like a lawyer I know in Port Harcourt. Is that where you live?

DeepSight:
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Don't laugh. This is very very very very real. A lot of foreigners come here with business visit visas and start working as expats without a work permit and long overstay their visas. I know this first hand, I handled many of them as Head of Legal in a number of multinationals.

And those foreigners are allowed to vote in our elections too - at any level?

budaatum:
AI is presented to you as a start for your own research.

As for your "dangerous" bit, I am afraid you have insufficient knowledge, by your own admission, for your opinion on the subject to be seriously considered, though I am reluctant to assume you are claiming I have carnal desires. Do correct me if you are making that claim please.

We have different world-views; that, I have come to realise. You revel in the acquisition of knowledge - to any level your brain power can take you to, not minding the fact that even the best of human brains (I heard Albert Einstein’s brain is kept in a laboratory museum for study) have limitations - they can stop functioning after some years, even if the one with the brain wants to use the brain.

What’s sobering for me to you in all these is that God warned mankind about a lot of the things you’ve gone into. They’re at the very root of Satan’s behaviour before his fall. This thing called pride.

What I say here to you can easily be misconstrued to mean different things to you, compared to what I mean.

You also do a lot of shape-shifting. It’s difficult to hold you by your words. I have noted this: another attribute of a proud, obstinate and self indulgent person. It was pride that brought down the devil. Remember this when all is said and done.

Isaiah 14:12 -15 KJV
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

budaatum:
I can live with whatever it suggests, deepsight. And to be sincere, I love the mystique too. Just see the attention your thread has generated already, lol. The fact I can be here as long as I have and most still wonder is kind of an achievement. And amusing when those who get my gender wrong claim to know whatever about me.


Oh. Truth, lol. Okay, let me try.

Everything written in The Mystical Life of Jesus, is uncorroborated and is likely to be untrue, while everything written in Mental Alchemy can be made to be true or not.

You asked about spirituality earlier, and this is sort of where it applies. It necessitates not seeing things as dichotomic.


You do keep insisting on this "belief" thing, lol.

My buddhism, Zen, to be specific, is not a belief system, but more of a philosophy. As in, a lens that one sees through. One does not carry the boat along the journey after a river is crossed. You leave the boat and walk.

Basically, the cause of my own dhukka is my own tanha. And the solution to my tanha is the Eight Fold Path. It makes me responsible for myself.


No sir, I do not "really think the physical body is all there is to us". I am not currently engaging with your physical body, I am engaging with your mind. When I die though, my mind will die with me. But please know that sneaky me is ensuring I live on after I die. I'll tell you how only if you ask.


Sincerely speaking, I don't think we have interacted as much as you think. Or shall I say, not as deep. And I mentioned those specific gods more for the response.

God, in any form, and as far as I am concerned, is a gap filler. Those willing to know will seek more instead of filling the gap with gods and no more seeking.

My insistence on writing "god" is so only God is not assumed.



Even gods must have causes, unless one wants to claim gods are uncaused, which in my view invalidates the idea of an uncaused cause of anything.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down

Please know that language is an imperfect medium to put these things across. In Zen we'd ask if you can hear me clapping with one hand. I appreciate that your questions make me struggle.

It is because of all these complexities that I resigned to the belief approach to life. You’re not being lazy to not want to “go deeper”, you’re only acknowledging the limitations imposed on you by the system you were born into and the fact that there’s an inherent corruption that was “injected” into it that you’d do well to steer clear of.


In the end, at the very least, we all agree that we didn’t just fall from the sky. A male gender and female gender did copulate to bring us into this world. Science is still trying to figure out how “life” is given and why they can’t prevent death from happening.

I will be very very careful with what a google AI search throws up as "answers" on spirituality. budaatum should be smart enough to appreciate this. It is especially very dangerous for one who is pretty much subject to carnal desires and human flailing to dabble in spiritual things, exposing such an one to the manipulative schemes of demonic forces and Satan himself.

budaatum:
Your wishing is advocacy.

You do not need to eliminate "all these ethnicities" before human beings see themselves as one. You just need to educate people to see each other as one.

It is what Jesus is trying to teach you when he commands you to love your neighbours. He did not only mean those living next door to you, but those in the neighbouring villages and countries too. Today, technology makes every human on earth your neighbour, whom you should learn to love instead of letting the likes of Tommy teach you to hate.

Why should I take the interpretation of the Holy Scriptures by a professed atheist as correct and relevant?

budaatum:
You delude yourself much.

The Orolu Kingdom of Ifon Osun and Ilobu Osun are one tribe killing each other, and siblings of the same parents have been known to war too.

Yeah. Ife and Modakeke still fighting till eternity.

bemeruca:
😂🤣😂🤣

See the people some folks are robbing shoulders with 🤣🤣

If these people are on your side, you are on the wrong side

🔥🚨DEVELOPING: These liberals held up traffic in New York City to crawl on the ground as they bark and squeal in an attempt to troll Trump.

pic.twitter.com/FNXAvy8z9N

— Dom Lucre | Breaker of Narratives (@dom_lucre) March 30, 2026

They look sick.

budaatum:
The "Godlike characters" you think one must have is actually a god like understanding. And that you get by learning as much as you can.

It's in fact taught in the first chapter of your god book, when it is written that you were created in God's image, and should "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth" and be blessed, which you can only do if you were given and have received "every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat".

But I bet you are more like Adam, created from mud, "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die". And that's why you are naked and iggy like Adam, and are refusing to be saved from slavery by sense using Eve.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/6795272/reeves-pass

You are either deliberately twisting God's Word or you are ignorant of the fact that this exact same tactics you've deployed here now (bits and pieces of God's words and commands strewn to confuse the gullible) is what Satan used in the Garden of Eden to deceive Eve.

Yield to the Lord's calling budaatum dear. He will lead you aright and set you free.

wow. Somebody or something brought me here.

budaatum:
I wouldn't mind you joining. Just bring a brain please, and use it.



Life is not tough for me at all, ono. Nor did Jesus ask me to submit to him. He actually asked that I seek the understanding he had so that I too may become a God like him, but it seems you would rather be submissive, which is your choice and not mine.

Here's a thread that might interest you more.

Of course I get this. Let me share with you another one.

1 Corinthians 6:3 (KJV)
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

Do you know what it takes to judge angels? You have to have Godlike characters to get to that level.

This is why I am inviting you to a higher pedestal of that knowledge that you seek, available by simply submitting to Him who is the source of all knowledge. It is that easy. Rosicrucian, Eckankar and the likes only serves to confuse you the more and subject you to eternal damnation and hell. They profit nothing.

budaatum:
Your belief in god constrains you, and you now want to constrain buda with your god that constrains you?

That is typical of those like you who would not want to enter into freedom and want others to share your prison!

You wouldn't be attempting to enslave others like you are enslaved if you bothered to educate yourself.

As for "extra layers of knowledge brings about confusion", its a pity you refuse to learn from a certain person who encourages you to learn so you can be free from constraints and bondage. And it's in fact your sort who yelled "crucify him" who went out of the cave and returned to enlighten you.

I am reading a new thread about you in the below.

https://www.nairaland.com/8566179/appeal-investigate-hidden-evidence-harassment

It's a tough life budaatum. You have to submit to the authority of Jesus to be free. You must do it for you to be free.

buda and deep, I said I will not join this interview in any way. But I think this Spencer guy is trying to derail this interesting interview. You guys should ignore him and continue, please.

https://www.nairaland.com/8566179/appeal-investigate-hidden-evidence-harassment
Interesting thread.

buda and deep, I said I will not join this interview in any way. But I think this Spencer guy is trying to derail this interesting interview. You guys should ignore him and continue, please.

budaatum:
I do not assume you were rough or not easy on me at all. In fact, compared to some on here you are wearing kid gloves, so don't try to frame my disregard for you is due to your supposed roughness or not being easy. It's more the lack of depth of your reasoning you should apologise for and improve on.

My belief in God constrains me. I believe that this life is not as difficult as many of the astrologers and the several well-read people think it is. And therein lies the reasons for my approach to life generally. It's what's kept me going all through the years. All those extra layers of knowledge brings about confusion, complexity and the tendency to want to take me away from the peace I have with my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ by my simply believing in him! You get what I mean now?

So, since you are "belief" averse, I can appreciate the friction between us.

I only want you to try Jesus in depth. But for you to do this, you have to accept him fully - letting go of all others, including your Buddhism and Egyptian mystics. It's the only way. The sure way.

budaatum:
It is my opinion that you have no depth within you whatsoever and you are not capable of knowing.

Alright, I apologise if I was kind of rough/not easy on you in the past. The response you gave to Deep is an eye opener of sorts for me. I am so sorry.

budaatum, just reading through your response to Deep's questions, I know deep down within me that you need the services of an exorcist - one who has the full power of the Holy Spirit in him or her.

You need deliverance. You are in a spiritual bondage of sorts - I have no idea what it is that you are under. The Lord knows and see you. You have nothing to fear. But you have to come down from that your high horse of arrogance and pride. You have to let them go and submit. It's the hardest part. You must submit to the Lord.

Jokes aside, I admire you. I feel the Lord has great need for you. You will find him when you seek him with all your heart.

Jeremiah 29:13 (KJV)
And ye shall seek me, and find me , when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Psalm 145:18 (KJV)
The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, To all that call upon him in truth.

It is well with your soul.

basilico:
In 2015 George Soros published a 5 point plan to EU on how to deal with immigration crisis caused by the Middle East instability.

https://www.georgesoros.com/2015/09/26/rebuilding-the-asylum-system/


1.
Europe must accept 1 million asylum-seekers annually and distribute the financial burden fairly among member states.
2.
Lead a global effort to provide adequate funding to "frontline" countries like Turkey, Lebanon, and Jordan.
3
Create a single EU Asylum Agency to streamline processing and establish common standards for all member states.
4
Establish safe routes for refugees to reach Europe, reducing the reliance on human traffickers.
5
Leverage the private sector and NGOs to help integrate refugees into the European workforce and society.

Project Syndicate paper by George Soros proposed funding in this way

1 EU Contribution: At least €15,000 per asylum-seeker for the first two years to cover housing, health, and education.
2.Global Funding: €8 billion to €10 billion annually for "frontline" states (Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan) via EU "mobilization" of global funds.

Source of Funds: Soros proposed the EU issue long-term bonds (borrowing from financial markets) using its "AAA" credit rating.
Operational Funding: Increased budget for the EU Asylum Agency to handle unified processing.
Private Sector: Incentives for private companies and NGOs to provide integration services, funded through EU grants and social impact bonds.


His Open Society Foundations has bankrolled NGOs shipping in asylum seekers from African coastline and resettling them in Europe.
Hungary Victor Orban rejected accepting the refugees seeking to maintain Hungarian
whiteness .
He also buys gas from Russia ,the EU wants all their member states to stop buying from Russia .
He also rejects the EU funding levels of the Ukraine war.

The EU has done everything to remove him through elections but he wins decisively all the time.
Péter Magyar,the EU candidate is facing off Orban on April 12,
The EU has withheld €18 billion to Hungary in addition to stalling an additional €14 billion loan

Trust bas to dig out the causative agents that are at the roots of our civilisational collapse!

Well done bas!

DeepSight:
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https://www.nairaland.com/8644889/demystification-budaatum-interview

I will read and not do pim.

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budaatum:
buda is both male and female. Their pronouns are they and them.

DeepSight, I warned you. Anyways over to you o, ehen, oya, respond o o!

Bro Ijebos, abeg, I no get power to type anymore.

GracieX3:


Trump is going down

Ehen, now you have revealed what’s on your mind madam - your true motive. Well done.

Anyways, for now, enjoy Trump while he’s still there.

And neither did Beyoncé (I am not a fan of hers)

GracieX3:
With all the civil rights activists and celebs that still showed up for the No Kings protest, you are still yammering this rubbish?

Arnold wasn’t even there.

See a pattern here? The people who are true celebrities don’t have time to waste on useless things.

basilico:
Oh no Ono. Oh no.
I thought was replying to budaatum who is proficient in chess but reasons like a toddler.
My apologies , I hurriedly wrote and logged off. I've just seen my mistake

No problem brother. I like buda. I want her to come to the light - and she will someday. I know she has it in her to do good. She will make it.