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Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 1:05am On Feb 15, 2017 |
nelszx: It's a good thing you admitted Histopathology is way above your league. I was a bit busy at hospital so I didn't have time to draw up your list so I would borrow time from my Val. 1stly have you ever heard of "POINT OF CARE TESTING" Where the patient is treated without having to go to the lab? I don't need a scientist to perform a: Blood sugar test as any one can operate a glucometer Pregnancy test, as anyone can work a test tube Urinalysis trip Ovulation timer, etc Now to the bone of contention: The following CAN'T be carried out by an Average laboratory scientist as they lack the clinical skills MICROBIOLOGY: Sensitivity testing to test the resistance of a microorganism to a drug Bone marrow examination and biopsy HISTOPATHOLOGY: Biopsy HAEMATOLOGY: Haematopoeic stem cell transplant and it's test Colonoscopy CARDIAC MARKERS H-FABP Test Immonoassay NPPB Insulin like growth test Autopsy Forensic toxicology NSE I could go on and on. The issue of UniAbj having its first MLS director is laudable. But here's an extract from Google on the hierarchy of a diagnostic lab The last picture is from Yahoo answers. Where it is stated clearly that a pathologist should head a lab. Please noted that in all your quotes about US and how MLS heads lab. A pathologist in those countries earn almost triple what a scientist earns and I come to wonder how you would be paid higher than your boss. Lolz
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Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 10:28pm On Feb 14, 2017 |
chomytex: I'm a doctor, Did Medical Microbiology and parasitology in my Year 4. Under laboratory medicine. I really enjoyed the course though, it was broad but fun. 1 Like |
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 7:00pm On Feb 14, 2017 |
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 9:05am On Feb 14, 2017 |
samsolite: You should be doing Mainly ANATOMY, BCM and PHYSIOLOGY. ANATOMY Harold Elis (clinical anatomy) : my favorite text back then Keith Moore Chaurasia Inderbir Singh (Histology) Netter Atlas of Human Anatomy Keith Moore Embrology Inderbir Singh Embrology Clinical Neuroanatomy by Snell BIOCHEMISTRY Harper's illustrated Biochemistry Vasodovan Chatterjea Shinde Textbook of Medical BCM Clinical BCM and Metabolic Medicine PHYSIOLOGY Sembulingam Guyton and Hall Don't Know If Unizik does pharmacology and pathology in path 1 if it does I would drop some good text N/B don't know if the text has changed from my time. But those are standard texts 2 Likes |
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 5:33pm On Feb 13, 2017 |
chomytex: What level? |
Celebrities / Re: Thank Goodness Wizkid Didn't See A Grammy Award!!! by Oogway: 8:24am On Feb 13, 2017 |
Grammywinner: At the 57th edition of the Grammy awards, which held at the Staples Centre in Los Angeles, California, on Sunday, Nigerian Kelvin Olusola and his team, Pentatonix, won in the Best Arrangement, Instrumental or Acappella category. Olusola thus joined a growing list of Nigerians to have won the award after Helen Folashade Adu (better known as Sade Adu), Henry Adeola Samuel (popularly called Seal) and Sikiru Adepoju. In 1986, at the 28th Grammy awards, Sade Adu winning with her band, Sade, as Best New Artiste, became the first Nigerian to win in the prestigious awards. Ten years later, another Nigerian, Seal, won the Grammys Record of the Year and Song of the Year awards for his song Kiss from a Rose, a song which was remixed as a soundtrack to Batman forever. Sikiru Adepoju won the Grammy in 1991 and 2009 as a part of Mickey Hart’s group, Planet Drum, whose albums won the award for Best Contemporary World Music Album for the two years. |
Celebrities / Re: Thank Goodness Wizkid Didn't See A Grammy Award!!! by Oogway: 8:19am On Feb 13, 2017 |
Grammywinner: Fela has won a Grammy award before. STOP HATING!!! |
Education / Re: How Tough Is Pharmacy As A Course by Oogway: 5:49am On Feb 13, 2017 |
TobeyTobee: Every department uses CGPA except Medicine. And there's nothing there, just study hard you'll make it |
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 11:43pm On Feb 12, 2017 |
chomytex: Are u a microbiologist?? |
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 6:51pm On Feb 09, 2017 |
DrAuthentic: How do we do the number exchange? Give me urs let me add u |
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 5:03pm On Feb 09, 2017 |
DrAuthentic: I'm new here, don't know how it works. But please teach me and do |
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 10:31am On Feb 09, 2017 |
xlow: I have told u what to do |
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 9:17am On Feb 09, 2017 |
IFEZINX1: No bro you don't cross over in Unizik, As for UI you heard, you are yet to confirm. |
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 9:13am On Feb 09, 2017 |
xlow: How old are you 16?? Can't you argue logically without calling names?? Whatever your JAMB Score is or was as far as it didn't get you your dream course you would keep writing again and again, or settle for something less. Cutoff mark is set due to students performance that year, so comparing JAMB Scores with someone who wrote years back won't do you any good. FYI, I had 303 in my time. Stop bragging about every little thing you have and be humble and strive for greatness, people have been there and done better and they don't rub it on others faces. Next time u say any insultive words I won't answer you again. I made a very constructive argument and u were quick to go bring your JAMB Result. Lolz how childish. There's no such thing as International Medical Graduate Number(IMG as you claim) As for the USMLE/ECFMG Identification Number. bro I have nothing to prove to you, I have been there done that. I would have but I know you, you would go around splashing it all over the internet. But if you insist send me an apology and email me and I would send it to u 2 Likes |
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 8:38am On Feb 09, 2017 |
xlow: Lolz, bro can't you make a fact without calling names, you're a very young lad more like a kid brother I never had. Just for the sake of the people reading: UNITED STATES MEDICAL LICENCING EXAMINATION has 3 steps you pass 1 before moving to the next. I told you i will pay for your Step 1, I never said it had only 1 step. Step 1 is the basics: Anatomy, BCM,Physiology, Pharmacology,Laboratory medicine (Haematology,Histopath, chem path, Microbiology). It's an 8hrs online exams divided into multiple sections. It cost 850$ currently during my time it was cheaper. We have step 2 Clinical knowledge, where they test your ability to make diagnosis, etc. it's also written. Same price 850$ We have Step 3 Clinical skills, (possibly the most stressful and expensive stage). It can only be taken in US and only in a few states. Did my in texas. Here they test your skills on clerking a patient, performing physical exams, diagnosis, etc. Finally, the 3 step. Would have given u a list of the past cutoff percentage during my time. But you can't even pass JAMB let alone a foreign exams. Back to my quote, try getting into the University 1st before talking about things you know little about: Transferring to Medicine in a tertiary institution is very difficult because of the following reasons: Most times Medical students make the best CGPA in 100lv, so they won't be anything wowing about your 4.0 to the dean of medicine as vertually most medical student get above that 2ndly, we have the quota system. Yearly thousands of people apply for medicine and the department always mostly admit fully their quota and those who fail out after 100lv are mostly replace by Direct Entry students in 200. I could go on and on. But why argue with a mere JAMBITE. Who has no respect. If i were you I would be level headed and study. Transfer to medicine after 200lv is almost impossible in the Nigerian system. Most of those schools you mentioned don't allow Medicine transfer. I know because I went to one. Don't always JUMP into arguments you have lil facts about arming yourself with bedroom gist. I mess you up once, don't let me do it again. Speaking about English, I would really like you to point out my flaws beyond simple typographic errors. I would really love to learn from you bro. Lolz. Told you earlier, don't attack/tackle the person tackle the argument, don't be quick to call names on a public forum. You never know who you chatting with. #ADVICE 3 Likes |
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 1:15am On Feb 09, 2017 |
xlow: Stop peddling lies in a faceless forum and try passing JAMB. The pics below would shut you up. This are screen shots of your posts on various topics in various forums in 2016 and 2017. Next time show respect to people above you. With this attitude I doubt you can make it into medical school. When you don't respect you seniors in Medicine progress for you would be very difficult. You need to be very humble and patient to succeed in Medicine..
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Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 1:13am On Feb 09, 2017 |
Dbrainiac1: I'm very sorry bro, just wanted to shut the little JAMB kid up. Little kids of now adays no respect for elder ones. Once again I'm very sorry, it's a mistake 1 Like |
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 1:04am On Feb 09, 2017 |
xlow: One more thing, If you finally get admission into medicine this year after you write JAMB AGAIN, and u are humble enough to make it through. I'll be very willing to give you the 850 dollars you need to write the 1st step and stage in USMLE. I know it has always been your childhood dream. Also be willing to give you some advice and past questions on it. Never be quick to attack a persons character on an online forum. It's your type that when they aren't smart enough to make it to medicine, they endup attacking doctors in JOHESU P.S next time you wanna tell a lie on an online forum, 1st do a background check and cover your tracks. This last picture is for the road. Bye 1 Share
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Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 12:56am On Feb 09, 2017 |
xlow: A little more for the fun of it. Hahahahaha.
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Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 12:49am On Feb 09, 2017 |
Dbrainiac1: Stop peddling lies in a faceless forum and try passing JAMB. The pics below would shut you up. This are screen shots of your posts on various topics in various forums in 2016 and 2017. Next time show respect to people above you. With this attitude I doubt you can make it into medical school. When you don't respect you seniors in Medicine progress for you would be very difficult. You need to be very humble and patient to succeed in Medicine..
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Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 12:40am On Feb 09, 2017 |
xlow: You are quick to mention things you know nothing about, the only way to cross over to medicine in UNN, UNIZIK,UI is direct entry, UTME or Predegree. Don't embarrass yourself publicly please. As for others I would verify. |
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 12:26am On Feb 09, 2017 |
xlow: 1stly, I didn't school in Unizik 2ndly, you should try passing Pharm and lab medicine. 3rdly, I have gotten what u are still trying to get and not sure of finishing 4th Done and dusted that, Passed USMLE and gone beyond shores in areas you can't even dream of specialising During my time in school i was Student Union President and face of my school. You should learn to attack the point rather than the person. You still havnt given me the list I asked for 2 Likes |
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 10:50pm On Feb 08, 2017 |
nelszx: You have once again evaded the truth, the Health care act not MDCN or MLSCN. You know this thing and I know it so why is it so difficult to admit it. I told you we in Nigeria not US(Canada and US follow same pattern of Health) so quoting a source linking to Canada isn't really doing any good. Moreover in US only 12states actually approve the act of medical laboratory practice to MLS guys only. I know because I have been there and relocating soon. Also only 1 post referred to US. And it was copied. You interpreting a result is you committing a foul in the law. P.S I can list a number of tests you don't have the clinical skills and knowledge to run or interprete. It remains a medical laboratory until a Pathologist steps in once in gets there in a functioning power it becomes a Pathology lab. There's so much beef and bad blood between the Lab scientist and the medics here in Nigeria (The reason I didn't go into Pathology) partly because most of your brothers wanted doing medicine and ended up in MLS so they have this complex issues and the fact that the Pathologist mostly wanna shove it into your faces that they're the boss(mostly the young Doctors) either way bro, you really argue logically. 1 Like |
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 10:22pm On Feb 08, 2017 |
xlow:Bro, you still yet to give me a list. Rather than laughing why not be listing. I'm sure you are in school or yet to enter school. You should be guided |
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 7:35pm On Feb 08, 2017 |
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 7:34pm On Feb 08, 2017 |
nelszx: Honestly, I love the way you argue. You seem to be a very smart fellow. Wish we could meet in the real. Back to the point. We in Nigeria not US. Thinks work differently here. You shouldn't always piont to the US in your sources. In Nigeria the director is always a Pathologist. Also the law doesn't allow a lab scientist inteprete a result. Anyone doing that does so illegally. Same rule is applicable to several other countries in the world over. |
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 7:24pm On Feb 08, 2017 |
nelszx: That's US bro |
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 6:42pm On Feb 08, 2017 |
ihave been following this thread for sometimes and i like some of the comments made. however i will like to point out some things , first i appreciate the observation by manga in a late post which he clarified that in USA the laboratory physician otherwise pathologist ultimately heads the laboratory.this obtains in the western and advanced countries, there is a difference between a pathologist and a medical lab scientist. this difference is noted by bernard in their job functions. according to the american society for clinical pathology(a society that oversees the certification of lab professional includuing medical technologists in USA) career handbook for lab professionals, A pathologist is a physician (MD or DO) who examines tissues and is responsible for the accuracy of laboratory tests. Pathologists interpret the results of these examinations and tests while Medical technologists work in all areas of the clinical laboratory including blood banking, chemistry, hematology, immunology, and microbiology.They perform a full range of laboratory tests – from simple premarital blood tests, to more complex tests to uncover diseases such as HIV/AIDS, diabetes, and cancer. They are also responsible for confirming the accuracy of test results, and reporting laboratory findings to pathologists and other physicians. from the above you can see that pathologists and medical lab scientists perform different functions, however there other professionals in the lab from the career handbook viz the medical lab technicians, the cytotechnologists, the histotechnologists.the pathologists' assistant.in nigeria all these except the technician are seen as medical lab scientists, there are two clarifications i'll like to make. the first is in trying to insinuate that a medical lab scientist , i mean a bachelor's in training and competence can be equated to a pathologists as the ultimate head of the lab.it is insulting. a ph.d scientist in western countries can to a certain extent be at par with the pathologists, but not a bachelor's degree holder, there is no basis for comparision, 2nd clarification the ph.d lab scientist can head a lab.in UK they do but increasingly are expected to have at least an MRCPath qualification, prof agbolanhor of LabCore has an FRCPath,but he is not a pathologist.pathologists and PH.D lab scientists interprete result,but when added clinical responsibilities are needed a pathologist takes responsibility #copied |
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 6:12pm On Feb 08, 2017 |
nelszx: Bro, I did pharm in MLS and Medicine, I can tell you the difference is clear. 2ndly, we both know a Med lab scientist is not permitted by Law to inteprete a test result (that's what I meant earlier) and you know the truth 1 Like |
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