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Education / Re: Check Out The Educational Qualifications Of All President Buhari’s Children by Oogway: 5:25pm On Feb 08, 2017
Etzakoos:
Buhari Is The Most Corrupted Man In Nigeria...About 6 Of His Children Study In Big Universities Abroad And Claiming He Dnt Hav 1million In His Bank Acct...Did He Think We Are Fools?...

Bros, Buhari is a retired General in the army for Christ sake he'll be paid his salary till he dies. Also as an ex President, Minister of Petroleum and several other offices which he has held if he can't give his kids the best education then he's a failed man. Even your Pastor dey use una offering take send him children abroad yet you literally worship him. Please google up the salary of a Major General in Nigeria. Atleast all of them have received some level of training in Nigeria, that counts for something. I don't like Buhari either but somethings people use against him is just not cool.

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Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 5:14pm On Feb 08, 2017
IFEZINX1:
Can someone use a degree in physiotherapy for direct entry into medicine??

Yes
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 3:24pm On Feb 08, 2017
Collinsemegreat:
Even a they undergo same training with medical biochemistry why the nonsense?

Why nonsense are you referring to bro??
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 3:24pm On Feb 08, 2017
nelszx:


No its not advance (Only pharmacists go advance in it) but at least we covered basically 60% of it as do others not compared to the pharmacists.Just basic knowledge of drug interactions, the kinetics, dynamics and in some disorders to an appreciable extent (so it's still basic we didn't go further). Besides Pharmacology for MLS is taught for a whole year (Exam 500 MCQs with 8 theory to answer 5).

The pharmacology taught then makes your work easier as you have idea of these drugs and some of its effects on certain laboratory procedures.

Make your point and stop looking for where to hinge on. This is a discussion

You want to tell me you read 60% of Tripathy or Kazung

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Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 3:22pm On Feb 08, 2017
nelszx:


No its not advance (Only pharmacists go advance in it) but at least we covered basically 60% of it as do others not compared to the pharmacists.Just basic knowledge of drug interactions, the kinetics, dynamics and in some disorders to an appreciable extent (so it's still basic we didn't go further). Besides Pharmacology for MLS is taught for a whole year (Exam 500 MCQs with 8 theory to answer 5).

The pharmacology taught then makes your work easier as you have idea of these drugs and some of its effects on certain laboratory procedures.

Make your point and stop looking for where to hinge on. This is a discussion

Bro, i did MLS and later left for Medicine. The pharmacology you do is less than 30% and don't bring in pharmacist here because Pharmacology is a branch of its own. One of the 5 areas of pharmacy. You guys hardly touch systemic pharmacology, all you did was basic pharmacology. Pharmacokinetics and dynamics, drugs metabolism and excretion. Slightly touching other parts. There's no where in your licence were MLS are licensed to inteprete results. If I'm wrong please current me. Very soon u would claim because u did "BASIC" pharmacology you can go on prescribing

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Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 10:37am On Feb 08, 2017
nelszx:


Interpretation of test results is taught in school (from basic to advanced state) as part of the training curriculum and it's no where in MDCN Act also (If you see it you can show me). Training curriculum from 300l prepares you for that (Pathology / pathophysiology of diseases, Pharmacology, Clinical chemistry, Haematology, Histopathology and Medical Microbiology from basic to advanced)

The only thing the pathologist has over the scientist is that he's seeing the patients medical history in front of him and can relate the result to the patient while the scientist can tell from his/her result.

I've seen cases after conducting a test, some doctors call to ask what this means if I can't interpret my result then what differentiates me from the conventional Quacks?

Funny how you are commonising MLS


Jesus, bro. I'm really surprised at your post. So the basic pharmacology you do is advance??
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 7:08am On Feb 08, 2017
nelszx:


There's absolutely no order preventing others in Nigeria maybe if you have one you show me. Today we have so many MCB, BCH and SLTs who are now MLS (by virtue of going back to study as a MLS).

If you want to practice MLS, you must have a BMLS degree and your current license for that year and when you read the 28(2) you'll see what the practice entails - (MLSCN Act)

Like I've said there's no order from any quarters it's just what the law stipulates(MLSCN Act) and that's what is followed. Same way an Anatomist or physiologist can perform the work of a doctor in any guise (MDCN Act). Get both Act and read it up you will understand what you termed "Oppression".

My brother, the era where pathologists supervises the work of a MLS was in the 80s and early 90s cos as at then it was just a middle power job with no relevant education. But now it's wrong, a professional whose degree and license isn't one and same with the other professional cannot supervise another. He can supervise residents under him but not another professional (Most times they seem lost). MLS have moved from that errand boy era to a more developed state as regards education (You want to supervise a PhD, MSc holder in the area of his jurisdiction or someone with ASCP or RCPATH).


Cos that's the job and primary responsibility of the MLS and not the pathologist. MLS are well trained in that (he can interpret the result he generates. And besides with exception to the Histopathologists, they are not supposed to run tests (as that is encroaching into another territory)but rather use and interprete the result generated by the MLS for diagnostic and consultation purpose(s).

For a fact that every party has it roles to play they are independent of each other and should be accorded that respect. And besides DID YOU KNOW that pathologists fought tooth and nail preventing the university education of MLS?
Well let's not argue much those era have come and gone, MLS is growing like a cancer on metastasis and since its not one and same with medicine, it's practitioners should practice independently as one and not as an appendage to pathologists (It's now a global trend not a NIGERIAN thing).

You talk about act and jurisdiction, where in your act does it give scientists the right to interpret results. I made a point about clinical knowledge and experience.
Career / Re: Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 9:43pm On Feb 07, 2017
nelszx:


My good friend Mr Oogway, it's not oppression and it's called regards for the rule of law. It's also a career path everyone choose to follow. For the aforementioned group you called aside the Medical laboratory technician not SLT oo did the science part of the courses they choose to follow but MLScts did not only do the science (which they did), but the Medical parts of their science(which they didn't do) and it's application to human subject (hence the knowledge of a MLS supercedes these other groups as it relates to the Medical aspect). Need I tell you just one MLS can do the jobs of these individuals unscathed.

As regards "Nigerian" pathologists we have no problem with them as regards anything but where the bone of contention comes in is when:
1. They don't want to obey the rule of law as regards their practice (as even MDCN doesn't supervise or regulate their practice)
2. He wants to supervise my work ( the two are unrelated so whats the supervision / supervisory rols for? Are we holding same degree or license?)
3. He's bent on signing my result which he contributed nothing to in the process.
4. Most have forgotten their role(s) and have started encroaching and doing what isn't in their job description.

But then again you felt good when u went to go get an order preventing MCB to work in the labs, also telling the Anatomist and BCM that that have no place in the histopathology lab. You claim you can do the job of all these guys. Yet you complain about Encouragement. Need I tell u that medical laboratory science as it is today was taught to you guys by the pathologist (Doctors) and yet they gave you a chance to grow. Yet you don't wanna do same for the rest. Why higher a lab scientist when a pathologist can run the test and interprete it.

In the health care every branch is an outgrowth of medicine and the rest are smaller units under it. So it's only right a Doctor or in this case a pathologist supervise your work owing to the fact that he has more clinical knowledge, skill and experience (According to your explanation up).

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Career / Why Do Medical Laboratory Scientists Find Pleasure In Oppressing Biochemist, MCB by Oogway: 7:37pm On Feb 07, 2017
Why do Medical Laboratory Scientists derive pleasure in oppressing Biochemist, Microbiologists and Laboratory technicians but always cry the oppressed/victims when it comes to PATHOLOGISTS(Medical Doctors). They claim these people don't have the required training and experience but following this argument of theirs do they need to cry victim as the same logic is applicable to them and the Pathologist??
Career / Re: Kogi: Screening Committee Discovers Level 13 Medical Officer With School Cert by Oogway: 11:33am On Feb 07, 2017
Lexusgs430:


I now truly give up. Go and care for your patients...... ..

Read it yourself, and stop running from a concrete argument

Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 11:29am On Feb 07, 2017
Ximenez:
There's no such thing like a Dentist earns higher, we have different specialties in both Dentistry and Medicine. The highest paid specialty in Dentistry is orthodontics, and orthodontists don't earn as high as Radiologists, Anaesthesiologists and Neurosurgeons.

Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 10:06am On Feb 07, 2017
DayoAlpha:
I disagree....dentists earn higher...peace

Bro, didn't you see where I said Dentistry is Medicine A Dentist is a Doctor. To buttress further this pictures would do justice.

Career / Re: Kogi: Screening Committee Discovers Level 13 Medical Officer With School Cert by Oogway: 9:56am On Feb 07, 2017
Lexusgs430:


Since researching topics is not your forte, I would include this link.
Read it thoroughly & digest contents. Then send your apologies through.
It would be gladly accepted..........

http://oxleas.nhs.uk/news/2013/5/londons-first-non-medical-appr/


I have carefully gone through the topic and I'm yet to see were a non Doctor is referred to as an M.D rather the constitution was changed to include others who were non medical officers not making a non doctor a medical officer. Even in that article it's the 1st ever in UK so u would imagine how many more decades it would take Nigeria to do such. Didn't you see were the article stated the guy had undergone several advance yes of training. Do u guys even get any other training after your 1st degree, moreover the topic is in a Nigerian setting not UK. Bro, you are still yet to show me where a nin Doctor is a medical officer
Career / Re: Kogi: Screening Committee Discovers Level 13 Medical Officer With School Cert by Oogway: 6:03am On Feb 07, 2017
Lexusgs430:



Unmerited prestige from you? You must have overdosed yourself on an ego boasting medication...... .



Bros, common YES or NO questiion you can't answer. But you quick to tell me You're a medic and make it look like you a PHYSICIAN. Be proud of your profession, I picked Medicine, medicine did not pick me. I fought to get here. So anywhere i go I'm proud to tell people who i am. I have a passion for saving lives and i'll do it to the best of my ability. I'm proud of who i am. Doctors made medicine prestigious, you too can make yours too by improving on yourself and working diligently. And not trying to give yourself false glory by saying A medical Officer is a non doctor (MBBCH). I asked for facts/sources you had none, ok Your profession nko?? You can't state it. You seem like someone who couldn't make JAMB to get in into the real deal but your whole street call you DOCTOR because of how much you fool them. So now you run around looking for cheap means to gratify your actions. For your info. Here are more facts. Unless you want me to believe
Wikipedia
Google
Oxford Dictionary
Royal Airforce of Britain are all wrong too??
Career / Re: Kogi: Screening Committee Discovers Level 13 Medical Officer With School Cert by Oogway: 6:02am On Feb 07, 2017
Bros, common YES or NO questiion you can't answer. But you quick to tell me You're a medic and make it look like you a PHYSICIAN. Be proud of your profession, I picked Medicine, medicine did not pick me. I fought to get here. So anywhere i go I'm proud to tell people who i am. I have a passion for saving lives and i'll do it to the best of my ability. I'm proud of who i am. Doctors made medicine prestigious, you too can make yours too by improving on yourself and working diligently. And not trying to give yourself false glory by saying A medical Officer is a non doctor (MBBCH). I asked for facts/sources you had none, ok Your profession nko?? You can't state it. You seem like someone who couldn't make JAMB to get in into the real deal but your whole street call you DOCTOR because of how much you fool them. So now you run around looking for cheap means to gratify your actions. For your info. Here are more facts. Unless you want me to believe
Wikipedia
Google
Oxford Dictionary
Royal Airforce of Britain are all wrong too??

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Career / Re: Kogi: Screening Committee Discovers Level 13 Medical Officer With School Cert by Oogway: 6:01am On Feb 07, 2017
Lexusgs430:


And how does answering your question, pay your bills? Look further than your nose and pick your battles somewhere else... . ... ..

Career / Re: Kogi: Screening Committee Discovers Level 13 Medical Officer With School Cert by Oogway: 5:59am On Feb 07, 2017
Lexusgs430:



Unmerited prestige from you? You must have overdosed yourself on an ego boasting medication...... .

A very simple question with a cheap answer. Yes or No
Career / Re: Kogi: Screening Committee Discovers Level 13 Medical Officer With School Cert by Oogway: 5:12am On Feb 07, 2017
Lexusgs430:


I have answered that question in a previous post. The question is, have you looked further than your nose?

You said you are a MEDIC yes. But are you a medical Doctor(MBBCH) ?? All this Doctors(MBBCH) wanna bes hiding under an umbrella term "Medic" to give themselves unmerited prestige. I challenge you to answer the simple question Sir..

Career / Re: Kogi: Screening Committee Discovers Level 13 Medical Officer With School Cert by Oogway: 5:12am On Feb 07, 2017
Lexusgs430:


I have answered that question in a previous post. The question is, have you looked further than your nose?

You said you are a MEDIC yes. But are you a medical Doctor(MBBCH) ?? All this Doctors(MBBCH) wanna bes hiding under an umbrella term "Medic" to give themselves unmerited prestige. I challenge you to answer the simple question Sir.

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Career / Re: Kogi: Screening Committee Discovers Level 13 Medical Officer With School Cert by Oogway: 5:03am On Feb 07, 2017
Lexusgs430:


I have answered that question in a previous post. The question is, have you looked further than your nose?


Sorry, I didn't see it. It's a simple Yes or No. Are you a medical doctor(MBBS)? That's what Wikipedia and Google told me. Unless u have other sources, I would like to know, back to my question sir
Career / Re: Kogi: Screening Committee Discovers Level 13 Medical Officer With School Cert by Oogway: 4:26am On Feb 07, 2017
Lexusgs430:


Medical officer's - We have medical and non - medical officers. Look further than your nose..........

Bros, The question was simple. Are u a medical doctor(MBBCH).
Career / Re: How Lucrative Is Pharmacy As A Career? by Oogway: 9:55pm On Feb 06, 2017
This should do justice to the the topic. Straight out of Google and Wikipedia. Sometimes I wonder why Pharmacist never keep comparing themselves to doctors it's more like part of their training. Lolz. Pharmacy is a noble profession but they should know their boundaries. With all the comparison almost all pharmacist I know would kill for their kids to go to medical school and become a doctor. I have seen Pharmacist who have graduated and come back to study medicine. I'm yet to see a Doctor leaving medicine for pharmacy or cajoling their kids into pharmacy.

Career / Re: The Pharmacist VS The Medical Doctor. by Oogway: 9:51pm On Feb 06, 2017
This should do justice to the the topic. Straight out of Google and Wikipedia. Sometimes I wonder why Pharmacist never keep comparing themselves to doctors it's more like part of their training. Lolz. Pharmacy is a noble profession but they should know their boundaries. With all the comparison almost all pharmacist I know would kill for their kids to go to medical school and become a doctor. I have seen Pharmacist who have graduated and come back to study medicine. I'm yet to see a Doctor leaving medicine for pharmacy or cajoling their kids into pharmacy.

Career / Re: Pharmacists Or Doctors,who Are Richer? by Oogway: 9:47pm On Feb 06, 2017
This should do justice to the the topic. Straight out of Google and Wikipedia. Sometimes I wonder why Pharmacist never keep comparing themselves to doctors it's more like part of their training. Lolz. Pharmacy is a noble profession but they should know their boundaries. With all the comparison almost all pharmacist I know would kill for their kids to go to medical school and become a doctor. I have seen Pharmacist who have graduated and come back to study medicine. I'm yet to see a Doctor leaving medicine for pharmacy or cajoling their kids into pharmacy.

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Career / Re: Kogi: Screening Committee Discovers Level 13 Medical Officer With School Cert by Oogway: 9:17pm On Feb 06, 2017
Lexusgs430:


Medical officer does not necessarily refer to a medical doctor.
In this instance, did she perform a medical doctors role?


Bros, Are you a medical Doctor I think this should do justice to the debate. Straight from Google and Wikipedia.

Career / Re: Kogi: Screening Committee Discovers Level 13 Medical Officer With School Cert by Oogway: 9:09pm On Feb 06, 2017
Lexusgs430:


I am also a medic.........

As in Medical Doctor?? Because I seriously doubt that
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 12:14pm On Feb 05, 2017
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Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 12:12pm On Feb 05, 2017
JJuanMiguel:
Please I'm contemplating studying any of these four courses, Pharmacy, Medicine, Optometry and Dentistry. But i want the one with a better prospect in the near future. So i want anybody with an idea or knowledge to help me out.

Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 12:10pm On Feb 05, 2017
vickertony:
community health and medicine and surgery... which is more lucrative outside Africa... please my friends need the advice urgently!

Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 12:05pm On Feb 05, 2017
JJuanMiguel:
Please I'm contemplating studying any of these four courses, Pharmacy, Medicine, Optometry and Dentistry. But i want the one with a better prospect in the near future. So i want anybody with an idea or knowledge to help me out.

If you are good in chemistry I would advise you go for Pharmacy (that course is no child's play). I don't really know much about optometry but I would advise you become a doctor and specialize in ophthalmology instead. Medicine is the same same as Dentistry but if you are looking for security then I'll advise Medicine as it has brother areas of specialization. Here is an average salary of healthworkers in US

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Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 11:54am On Feb 05, 2017
vickertony:
community health and medicine and surgery... which is more lucrative outside Africa... please my friends need the advice urgently!

Study medicine and specialize in Public health (community medicine)

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Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Oogway: 11:52am On Feb 05, 2017
JJuanMiguel:
Please I'm contemplating studying any of these four courses, Pharmacy, Medicine, Optometry and Dentistry. But i want the one with a better prospect in the near future. So i want anybody with an idea or knowledge to help me out.

Follow your passion. But if you want security you go for Medicine. The Healthcare is the domain of the Doctor (MBBS). there's no where in the world were any of those professions you listed earn higher than a doctor of the same level. Health related courses is really no child's play. So you better have a passion for it.

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