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CultureRe: Voice-recording Of People Speaking Igbo And Bini in 1911 by OpinionLeader: 5:58pm On Aug 14, 2013
odumchi: Biateeri, nwonye ke, I kpuru ìsì? Could you not clearly see that the recording was labelled "Umuchukwu"? How many "Umuchukwus" do we have in Igboland? What other people refer to themselves as "Umuchukwu" if not the Aro?

You don't know what Aro dialect sounds like yet you claim that it's not Aro? Tell me your town/local government and I will tell you if your dialect is similar to ours.

(1) I don't understand everything he's saying mainly because the audio isn't clear. However, I can pick up words like "Okigbo muru m", which means "Aro which gave me birth", and "Okereke" and "Eze Nwanyi". The word "Okereke" automatically knocks out Onicha and anywhere else in present-day Anambra or Enugu because they don't answer "Okereke".

(2) The white men who recorded this were anthropologists and not traders, so why should they seek commercial centers? Port Harcourt was not a major commercial center at that time and Onicha was busy being Christianized by missionaries who would've frowned at the "pagan music" which these men were enjoying.

Even at that, Arochukwu did sit on a centuries-old trade route which connected it to Bende (the largest market-town in Igboland prior to the coming of the white men), Calabar, Afikpo, Ngwa, and Uzuakoli. Therefore, accessing Arochukwu would not have been a "Herculean task" since all they needed to have done was follow the same old indigenous footpaths or follow the same trail which the British Niger Company had used in its sacking of Arochukwu nine years earlier.

Besides, at that time Arochukwu was being visited by missionaries (like Mary Slasor) who came to Christianize the newly-conquered people.

(3) You aren't correct. It seems that you are forgetting that Arochukwu possesses the Ekpe, Akang and Ekpo fraternities and thus, like all Ekpe, Akang and Ekpo practicing-communities, has a strong musical background and is well-versed in Igbo and Ibibio folk music. Since these institutions are male-run, male choir groups are responsible for the vocals, the drumming, and any other sounds which are produced at their masquerade displays or events in general. Also, Arochukwu is home to a wide variety of music genres ranging from Ugbo Ali to Itembe and Odumodu (midnight singing).

Furthermore, most of the communities in the Bende region of Abia practice the "Ikpirikpe ogu" (war dance), which has become an international Igbo icon. Tell me: are men not responsible for the singing and instrumentals?

Inyi vula nu ya ugbua? Nde si guma n'o bu nde Aro ji wo amaghi ihe n'awa wo. O bu wo ugha.

My guy, go and look for what's troubling you. It's certainly not Aro. By the way, who are "Aro Oje Ozi" or is that a joke?
(1) Let me start with your last statement. I do not have anything troubling me brother; needless to add that I do not hate Aro people. I am only trying to educate some you new generation Aro, who probably do not know the other side of your history.

Aro people are wonderful people, I must confess. Yet you very are crafty (cunning) in nature and your superiority claim over other Igbo people is quite disturbing. You tend to forget that in most Igbo villages, you are regarded next in line to Ohu and Osu. #Fact! Little wonder in some Igbo communities, marrying an Aro person is considered ...

(2) Forget what your forefathers may have told you. In prehistoric Igbo, Aro people were known and addressed as Aro Oje-Ozi. This came about as they were believed to be "messengers of the gods" (presumably Chukwu Abiama, a 'powerful' juju in Aro land as at then. Wherever a need arose for sacrifices to be made in an Igbo village, an Aro man would be sought to go and discard the sacrifice (i.e what Igbo call "Ibupu aja). Their functions were similar to those of Biblical Levites. It is worthy of mention that Nri people were known to perform rituals and carry out spiritual activities similar to Aaron and his children.(By the way, I am not from Nri but a thoroughbred Igbo man who says it the way it is).

(3) Agreed Ikpirikpe Ogu (War Dance) you talked about was by men. Remember, it is and still remains WAR DANCE and of course men go to war but the song under review doesn't in any way sound like it. The instrumentation and rhythm of this particular one and the war dance are clearly different.

(4) One thing that interest me in your write up is that you made reference to Ibibio. I love that! It clearly shows that most of you haven't forgotten that you are a product of mix blood of Igbo and Ibibio/Efik/etc. You therefore cannot lay claim to being Igbo than most of us from the heartland of Igbo land. Your Igbo dialect bears testimony to what I am saying.

(5) I know what Aro dialect sounds like. I have Aro friends both male and female till date. In fact, I dated three different Ago babes as a bachelor. One hails from Atani Mmawuru. Another from Aro (village) in Okigwe and another from Aro Ndi-Izuogu. Eventually, my people kicked against them all simply because they are Aro!

(6) I take it that you cannot interpret the lyrics of the song if all you could hear was Okereke. Let me help you. The song is a dirge (egwu akwa), mourning a certain woman. I would have given you the interpretation now, but I'm already running out of time right now. By the way, Okereke is a popular name in Imo and Abia states. It is erroneous to adjudge it an Aro name. In Owerri and Ngor Okpala, it is usually shortened to Okere. (E.g. Steph-Nora Okere and Stephenie Okereke are not from Aro).

(7) On the Umuchukwu stuff, there was never a place in the lyrics where the people referred to themselves as Umuchukwu. I really don't know how that came about. By the way, you have not visited all communities in Igbo land to know that Umuchukwu does not exist elsewhere. Can you also confirm if there is any particular village in Arochukwu called Umuchukwu.

On a final note, I urge you to desist from insults; refute the facts before you instead.

Igbo kwenu!!
CultureRe: Voice-recording Of People Speaking Igbo And Bini in 1911 by OpinionLeader: 3:13pm On Aug 14, 2013
odumchi: The first Igbo one is from Arochukwu while the second one is from Oka. Both sent chills down my spine. Imagine how we, over a century later, are able to still listen to the voices of people long dead. Bekee bu agbara n'ezi.
Odumchi at it again!

I would like to remind ALL Aro protagonists that life in Igboland does not start and end in Arochukwu. Your obsession with Aro which tends to make you to appropriate anything good in Igbo land to Aro is really irritating. Do I need to remind you that Arochukwu is NOT synonymous with Igbo! Suddenly, Aro Oje-ozi (Aro, the messenger) of old has metamorphosed to Aro Okigbo! Do I also need to remind you that Aro people do not possess 100% Igbo DNA? lipsrsealed

All I have expected was for one of you to tell us the lyrics of the song rather than make another claim for Arochukwu. lol! I bet you that the Igbo dialect spoken in that song is nowhere near Aro. Why do I think so:

(1) The lyrics are clear Igbo words of which I can conveniently explain 50% of what it is saying. I am from Imo State by the way and neither understand nor speak Aro dialect. I challenge any Aro person here to prove me wrong by translating the lyrics.

(2) I should also think that the white-man that recorded the song would have found it more convenient to visit a village/locality nearer to major trade centres in Igboland like Port Harcourt, Onitsha, etc. Besides, considering the road networks in Igbo land in 1911, accessing Arochukwu would have been a Herculean task.

(3) I stand to be corrected, but when villages/localities that are known for male choral groups are mentioned in Igboland, Arochukwu may not be on the list. Up till date, communities in Mbaise, Ngwa, Owerri, Asaba, Etche, Ikwerre, Ugwuta etc have sustained the trend over the years. Is it not possible that it could have been from one of them?

Ndi Arochukwu, abeg make una free us!
PoliticsRe: Sagay, Aturu, Fasehun Differ On Lagos Beggars’ Deportation by OpinionLeader: 1:42pm On Aug 07, 2013
Oh my goodness, there are still scores of fearless and truthful people among the Yorubas.

Chief Ebenezer Babatope, Bamidele Aturu, Dr. Fredrick Fasehun, ... still counting! God bless them all!!!

Prof Itsay Sagay's assertion is simply based on sentiment (sympathy). Imagine a SAN spewing such nonsense!!!
PoliticsRe: Encounter With Herdsmen In Delta by OpinionLeader: 1:24pm On Aug 07, 2013
tallceejay: And what might that solution be ??
The law of reciprocal behaviour is the solution. By that I mean, let action and reaction be equal.

For every Eggon man killed by Fulani Herdsmen, The Ombatshe boys retaliate double. If this method is adopted all over the country, Fulani people will learn to respect their host communities.
PoliticsRe: Can We Put An End To Ethnic Rivalries And Hostilities? by OpinionLeader:
django1: It will come to a boiling point one day, just watch.
Where? On Nairaland, yes? Outside Nairaland, I don't think so!!

I have come to the realization that Ndigbo and Omo Oluabi (Oduduwa) relationship are getting better by the day (EXCEPT ON NAIRALAND). Inter-tribal marriages between the two are on the increase. For instance, despite being a Igbo apologist both on Nairaland and outside, three of my relations are married to Yoruba people. My brother in-law too as well as two of close pals. You may have also heard that Peter Okoye has formalized his marriage with Lola. So tell me, where will the fight begin and where will it end?

Moreover, both have lived and worked together harmoniously over the years, yet the relationship continues to get better. Most people from both tribes attend same worship centres.

By the way, who is going to initiate the fight? Would a civilized Yoruba man who appreciates and values his life more than anything else do it? Or the Igbo business man, who would not want anything to happen to his business? What about you? grin

Perhaps, the street urchins, agberos (agboro as called in Igbo land)? But thank goodness, many of them are not learned to be on Nairaland.

Relax man! Nothing mega!!
PoliticsRe: Encounter With Herdsmen In Delta by OpinionLeader:
In the spirit of "One Naijiria", what are we going to do? NOTHING!!!

We may even have to grant them 'amnesty' so that they will stop to maim and kill us.

Seriously, I think Ombatshe Cult Group appears to be the only solution to these cowards.
PoliticsRe: Fashola's Law Has Caught Him Today. by OpinionLeader: 9:55pm On Aug 06, 2013
Laws in Nigeria have always been "for them" ie the poor masses. The thieving political class are usually above the law. Hypocrites!

On the other hand, may be the law has not been sanctioned for full implementationv yet. The dead are still being buried daily in Lagos yet none of the families of the deceased has complained of being forced to cremate their dead.
PoliticsRe: Fashola's Law Has Caught Him Today. by OpinionLeader: 9:52pm On Aug 06, 2013
Laws in Nigeria have always been "for them" ie the poor masses. The thieving political class are usually above the law. Hypocrites!

On the other hand, may be the law has not been sanctioned for full implementation.
PoliticsRe: Yoruba Leader Faults Gov. Fashola On Deportation Of Nigerians In Nigeria by OpinionLeader: 5:12pm On Aug 06, 2013
software man: JUST LIKE SOME NAIRALAND HATERS IN THE SIMILITUDE OF ABACHA MAN CHEAP OPPORTUNIST BABATOPE WOULD NOT ACCEPT THE FACTS AFTER INVESTIGATION BY JOE IGOKWE,CHRIS NGIGE , BEN AKABUEZE ,ADINUBA ETC.
CHIEF BABATOPE HAS PROVEN THAT HE IS NOTHING BUT A CHEAP POLITICAL HACK THAT WILL LATCH ON TO ANYTHING TO SCORE A CHEAP POLITICAL POINT. HE WAS CHEAP WHEN ABANDONED JUNE 12TH AND WENT WITH ABACHA. HE IS STILL CHEAP AS A LACKEY OF GOODLUCK JONATHAN.
What investigation are you talking about here? None of those men claim to have investigated the matter. Rather, they passed their verdict based on what Gov Fashola told them.

Well Ndigbo and Nigerians were not surprised that these established Igbo traitors would take such stands. We already know their antecedents. It is also a known fact that a Nigerian politician would do anything provided his daily bread which I prefer to call 'rice and beans' is sustained.

The most annoying aspect is Chris Ngige's negligence of not getting to hear from all parties involved before making a public statement in support of his paymaster. Well, he is done for!

On Chief Ebenezer Babatope, the man has scored a high point in this regard, as far as I am concerned. I salute his courage! That he ditched June 12 and supported Abacha's govt isn't an issue. After all, so many Nigerians including notable Yoruba (Afenifere) leaders did same.
PoliticsRe: Yoruba Leader Faults Gov. Fashola On Deportation Of Nigerians In Nigeria by OpinionLeader: 12:34pm On Aug 06, 2013
HolyTruth: Chief Ebenezer Babatope faults Gov. Fashola of Lagos State on his recent deportation exercise carried out against ndi Igbo. Said he,
"I have read all arguments on the deportation of some Anambra State indigenes living in Lagos by the Fashola administration, I submit that the action is highly regrettable, illegal as well as being a grand assault on the fundamental rights of the affected Nigerians under the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria".

He also advised Fashola to hurriedly apologize to Ndi Igbo to restore his hard earned reputation.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201308052326.html
Chief Babatope has proven that indeed he is a true leader and a statesman unlike the ethnocentric Femi Fani-Kayode, who talks before he thinks. His unbiased position and gracious utterances is highly commendable.

Unfortunately, some Nairaland ndi-amakekwus and ndi-agamevus in the similitude of FFK would not accept this fact.
PoliticsRe: Okorocha - My Suspension By APGA Is Irrelevant by OpinionLeader: 11:13pm On Aug 04, 2013
Knowing the antics of this man called Rochas, is it not possible that he might be acting a script written by PDP in order to distabilise and unsettle APC? I won't be surprise if he eventually goes back to PDP later on.
PoliticsRe: Okorocha - My Suspension By APGA Is Irrelevant by OpinionLeader: 11:02pm On Aug 04, 2013
Nemerem44: My Oga, being abusive won't make u win the arguement. The radio is calling for calm on the basics of what APGA said, also based on that, I can see the same disgruntled elements are trying to forment trouble based on APGA's pronouncement. U guys should allow Rochas to work please. Don't wait till a contract is awarded to u before u sing prases about him. IMO STATE money is meant for everybody's(IMO Citizens) welfare, and not for a few Criminal inclined politicians. Thank you
Are you not trying to tell us that you are now Rochas praise-singer because of the contract he awards you?

Could you mention 10 things your darling Governor has initiated since he became governor? Please be specific.
PoliticsRe: Okorocha - My Suspension By APGA Is Irrelevant by OpinionLeader: 10:56pm On Aug 04, 2013
utumunta: Okorocha became a governor on the platform of a party. There is no provision for independent candidacy in our constitution and it is a party's logo that apppears in on the ballot papers.
Okorocha won in 2011 because of;
1. Ojukwu, Obi and Umeh factor.
2. Martin Agbaso factor.
3. APGA is seen as an Igbo party.
4. Imo people were tired of Ohakim and his antics.
Now, Rochas has squandered these factors on the altar of greed and will find it hard, if not impossible, to win an election again.
You nailed it bro! Rochas could not have won considering that it wasn't the turn of Orlu zone to produce the governor. Let's wait and see how his 'reputation' secures him victory 2015.

Many people are really misinformed about Rochas and his so-called transformation of Imo State. I travelled last month of July to see for myself and I was totally disappointed with what I saw. There was practically nothing on ground. All you hear and the footage you see on tv are all 'America-wonder'
PoliticsRe: Soludo Officially Joins APGA! by OpinionLeader: 4:30pm On Aug 01, 2013
Great news!

I like Chris Ngige as a person but his choice of party affiliation really puts me off.

Previously, I have never been comfortable with the tribal party called ACN not to talk of now that they have entered into unholy alliance with CPC and others.

However, those who think APGA is dead should think again. I expect some notable politicians from other South-Eastern states of Imo, Abia, Enugu and Ebonyi to tow same line i.e. decamp from PDP to APGA.

I also wish he won't be another Rochas Okorocha who used APGA as a platform to become governor only to engage in political prostitution without respect to those who voted him into power.
PoliticsRe: Something Is Wrong With Nigerian Leaders. A Peep Into Imo Will Convince You. by OpinionLeader: 4:05pm On Aug 01, 2013
What I saw in Imo State two weeks ago when I visit was laughable. Gov Rochas "Egbeonu" Okorocha is delivering dividends of democracy ONLY in the media. There is practically nothing on ground to show for all the noise.

Imo is one of the worst states in terms of infrastructural development in the South East. Of course you already know that the only industry (whether small, medium or large scale) that exists in Imo state is hotel. Yes, HOTEL!!! Yet some people don't see anything wrong with our past and present leaders. Okorocha is not alone. Achike Udenwa, Ikedi Ohakim, Ararume, Chris Anyanwu etc are some of our problems. If Imo State has 100 problems, the political class make up 99.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Most Pastors Talk This Way? by OpinionLeader: 5:40pm On Jul 30, 2013
nedu2000: Usual occurrence among pentecostal pastors,they speak in a particular way...for example they pronounce pastor as "pashtor" and spirit as "shhhpirit"......hope it not just M̶̲̅ε̲̣̣̣̥ observing
So, what is your point?

You want to make fun of "Pentecostal Pastors" even when your post has joblessness embossed on it?!

Iberibe wu oya, onye nzuzu amayi!
FashionRe: MBGN 2013 Winner Is Miss Bayelsa by OpinionLeader: 10:46pm On Jul 20, 2013
It's such a shame that merit is perpetually dead in Nigeria. Miss Imo answered her questions more intelligently, besides being taller and more beautiful. Miss Bayelsa won courtesy of Gov Dickson's presence plus Home Advantage. Nawa for Naija! I have promised myself that I will never watch this nonsense again.
FashionRe: How Can Miss Bayelsa Be D MBGN by OpinionLeader: 10:26pm On Jul 20, 2013
kkkp: I totally disagree with d result...or is it becus it is bn host by d Bayelsa state government??
it's such a shame! Nigeria won't go forward like this. I'm so disappointed.
CultureRe: The "Mazi" Title In Igbo Society by OpinionLeader: 6:21pm On Jul 15, 2013
Mazi means different things to different parts of Southern Igbo.

The origin of MAZI may not necessary be ARO, as someone insinuated. In the part of Imo state where I come from, the English equivalent of Mazi is MR ... period!

I really can't explain what Mazi means to ndi Aro, but I understand it is a form of greeting in Ngwa land.
FamilyRe: Should I Get Married Or Buy A Range Rover by OpinionLeader: 3:35pm On Jul 09, 2013
snthesis: dear NL members,
i need your advice.
i am in my late 20's got a good payin Job, unfortuntely/fortunately met a beautiful angel 5months ago ( twasnt planned). a few hours ago was almost tempted to ask her to marry me, but sum1 interrupted our blues.
so I'm back home, and contemplating my decision to settle down,
economically, it would involve
1. moving out of my rent free abode- accommodation (2yrs+ Agency) =1.9million naira
2. furnishing = 1million naira
3. wedding hall = 1million naira
4. entertainment of guest (traditional + white wedding) = 1million naira
5. Honeymoon tinz = 1million naira
grand total for settling down = 5.9million naira

alternatively
i cud just buy a tokunmbo Range Rover = 3.5million naira and use the change to be a "Bigs Boy"

i have the said money, so i aint sourcing, so pls by fellow NL members what should i Do, PROPOSE, marry, and settle down or buy a RANGE rOVER AND BE A bIGZ bOY. undecided
CLAP FOR YASELF!!! grin
PoliticsRe: Terrible State Of Ago-Okota Road In Lagos (Pics) by OpinionLeader: 5:16pm On Jul 08, 2013
Living in Ago Palace is hell ATM! One will have to endure the gridlock from morning till night. The matter goes beyond Ago Palace Way as virtually all the streets in the area are in despicable state. The Local Government Chairman has his signboard everywhere with the inscription "SHAMEH IS WORKING" . If the fooolish man builds a SLAB, he erects a signboard. huh

On Ago Palace Way Road Construction, I would say that the work is rather too slow. A less than 2km road is taking close to 2 years to be completed. I know someone would want to remind of the Court injunction. But residents know that it was only one landlord (between Esuola and Enoma) that had a protracted court case with the government. Besides the government obtained judgement in their favour over 10 months ago. So?

Now the lazy construction company (CCECC whatever?) have closed down one-side of the road from "Tarred Road Bus-stop" to "Ago Roundabout". God help us!
RomanceRe: Miss Nairaland June 2013 - Elimination Round 3 by OpinionLeader: 1:35pm On Jun 05, 2013
dare2think: The hips below!


https://s20.postimg.org/dj16dgydp/Tolulopeh.jpg
emmm ... emmm... emmmm.... as a African man proper, I dare NOT ignore this because "hips don't lie"!!! grin

I hereby CAST MY VOTE unrepentantly, unequivocally and conscientiously for LUPEY!!!!
RomanceRe: Miss Nairaland June 2013 - Elimination Round 3 by OpinionLeader: 1:00pm On Jun 05, 2013
OPINION_LEADER is in the house!!!

Who needs my vote?!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: OFFICIAL! Chelsea Appoints Jose Mourinoh. by OpinionLeader: 3:53pm On Jun 03, 2013
Yeaaaa!!! Welcome home SPECIAL ONE!!
CelebritiesRe: Michael Adebolajo Appears In Court; Wants To Be Called Mujaheed Abu Hamza by OpinionLeader: 3:49pm On Jun 03, 2013
Why is it that Islamic terrorists and militants love that name MUJAHEED? This murderer is one; Asari Dokubo is another. undecided
FashionRe: Cossy Orjiakor On The Cover Of Chizy's Spyware Free Magazine by OpinionLeader: 4:53pm On May 24, 2013
Are you shure this is Cossy Orjiako? What about the NGWO-NGWO on her chest? How come it appears smaller here?
CelebritiesRe: Nollywood Actress Egbedagenevieve Nnaji Moves Parents From Egbeda To Lekki by OpinionLeader: 4:48pm On May 24, 2013
PRAISSEEEEEE THE LORD!!!!! HALLELUIAAA!!!!!!!!!! grin
PoliticsRe: Another Score Card For Abia State by OpinionLeader: 4:45pm On May 24, 2013
This is an epic fail!

Is it not childish for you or whoever to have duplicated most of these photos. Perhaps, you thought we are one-eyed fellas?

Anyway, T.A. Orji has got just 2 years to disappear from that office. He hasn't disappoint Abians after all, knowing fully well that he was a satanic gift from an evil man called Orji Uzoh Kalu.

I am seriously praying for the people of Abia so that they would get it right in 2015.

By the way, whatever has happened to Ugochukwu Emezue, T.A. Orji's Special Adviser on Media Matters? He seems to have stopped talking these days. I used to admire his guts during the time he presented a certain programme on Silverbird TV. Now I know that he is another hypocrite from the media in the order of Reuben Abati.
PoliticsRe: Ombatse Chief-Priest - Governor Ordered Police To Kill Me by OpinionLeader: 10:28am On May 23, 2013
[quote author=maxi-t]@TOPIC,
I tot the babalawo was in prison or something, so you mean he is still free? hahaha, the polic must be scared of the dude.[/quote]

No right thinking Security Operative would like to go and arrest the Chief Priest. Such a person may have himself to blame, as he will be OMBATSHED. 'I be gallant officer', no dey this one because life dey sweet. grin grin
PoliticsRe: Gen. Ateke Tom Leads Ex Militants Against Ameachi. by OpinionLeader: 4:01pm On May 22, 2013
Ogbonaikenna: Pics pls
You want him to get a snapshot of militants and post it online for your viewing pleasure? grin
PoliticsRe: Orji Cuts Visit To Attend Collapsed Building Victims by OpinionLeader: 1:53pm On May 17, 2013
This man should go and sit down! He has failed the people of Abia State.

Abians were wrong to think that his non-performance in office was caused by his god-father, Orji Uzoh Kalu. Who should they blame now for the inactivity of the state govt in Abia State?

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