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Religion / Re: Why Jesus Is Not Coming Back by Oricha62(m): 7:21am On Jan 19, 2018
Originakalokalo:


Matthew 14:33

Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

A demon worshiped him. He knew what you don't know.

Mark 5:6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,

The disciples worshiped him.

Luke 24:52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:


He did not reject all this worship. If it is not in his place to accept it, re would have rejected it.



This is why we pray in his name,:

John 14:13

And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

JESUS DOES WHATSOEVER WE DO IN HIS NAME.

HE ANSWERS OUR PRAYERS.


God the Father said this:

Revelation 1:8

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord,

which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

JESUS said this:

Revelation 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega,

the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches

which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira,

and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Mystery?

No.

JESUS and the Father are One.

I hope I have answered your questions.

You know clearly that there is different between a COMMAND statement and REPORT.


Mark 5:6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,

The disciples worshiped him.

Luke 24:52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:

The above verses you qouted were all reports it was sombody reporting not A direct statement from Jesus.

Muslims worship ALLAH because he command us to worship him.

"Verily, I am Allah: There is no god but I: So worship Me (only), and establish regular prayer for celebrating My praise.
Quran 20:14


In Qur'an (19:36)

(Jesus had said): "Indeed Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him alone. This is the Straight Way.


Give me something similar to what I gave you from your Bible.
Religion / Re: Why Jesus Is Not Coming Back by Oricha62(m): 10:54pm On Jan 18, 2018
Originakalokalo:



The disciples worshiped him.

Thomas called him God and worshiped him.

The host of Heaven and 24 elders worship him.

He called himself the Alpha and the Omega....which means the beginning and the end.

I hope I have answered your questions.

NO,YOU HAVEN'T ANSWER MY QUESTIONS
Give me the chapter in the bible to support your claim.
Religion / Re: Islam And Women's Rights: Equal Yet Different by Oricha62(m): 10:49pm On Jan 18, 2018
Seun:
Ok, let’s talk about equality.

When a man can marry four wives while a woman can only have one husband, is that equal?

When a man can beat a disobedient wife, but a woman can’t beat a disobedient husband, is that equal?

When a woman’s inheritance is half of what her brothers inherit, is that equal?

When the testimony of 2 women is equal in weight to the testimony of 1 man, is that equal?

When a rape victim is imprisoned in Dubai and her rapist is allowed to leave the country, is that equal?


Thanks so much,I got your questions but two of them are wrong,because ,Islam doesn't command such .
I shall be taken them one after the other for better understanding.

ABOUT MARRIAGE
I will only give you some wisdom behind the issue of marriage.

A man is allowed to marry up to four women for many reasons, benefiting both the man and the women.

Firstly, it may help the women as in the case of the Prophet where he often married poor women or women whose husbands died in battle. This was to help and protect them.

Secondly, as the prophet Abraham (as) married, they may bear the man a child when the first wife cannot. Instead of abandoning a women for her inability to conceive, he marries another and treats them both with justice.
Thirdly,women are more in population compare to men, if a man is only allowed to marry one woman

what will happen to the rest of women around the world?
If your sister or your daughter happened to be among the women that doesn't have husband,How would you feel?
Fourtly, If a woman have four husbands, when she give birth to the baby after the pregnancy ,which husband would claim the pregnancy and the baby?

And lastly, in the case of a man tempted to commit adultery with another women. Instead of this man committing a grave sin, adultury, Allah has given man an ease within his law and allowed man to marry another women. The aim of this is to prevent man and the women from committing a grave sin. Many people look at this law as a selfish addition to men but in fact it is meant as an ease on both men and women; it's not an excuse to 'have fun' with many wives but in fact it is meant to help ease men and women with their way of life.

The creator knows what he create better before allowing such.

Please answer all my questions before we proceed.
But if you agreed with all my explanation,let me know so that we can move to your next question.

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Religion / Re: Why Jesus Is Not Coming Back by Oricha62(m): 10:10pm On Jan 18, 2018
honey001:
This Antichrist sha want to deceive many.....
Who is the anti-christ ?
Religion / Re: Why Jesus Is Not Coming Back by Oricha62(m): 10:07pm On Jan 18, 2018
frosbel2:


God is the ONLY eternal KING, there is no other KING who is coming.

Jesus is a messenger and prophet of God.
Jesus never called himself God neither does he ask his followers to worship him and pray in his name.

It is Christian that called him God.
Please give to me prove in the bible where Jesus called himself God? And also where he command his followers to worship him and pray in his name?
Religion / Re: Why Jesus Is Not Coming Back by Oricha62(m): 9:50pm On Jan 18, 2018
frosbel2:


Good, go and wait for your rapture that will NEVER happen - grin grin


The second coming is soon. In fact, Jesus promised His disciples that He would come again.

John 14:1-3 says, “Let not your heart be troubled...In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.”

Don't you believe in your bible?

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Religion / Re: Why Jesus Is Not Coming Back by Oricha62(m): 9:31pm On Jan 18, 2018
Oricha62:


Exactly ,everyhing that has life will surely die before the day of resurrection . Only the creator of everything that exists both in the heaven and on earth will remain. The first and the last ,the ever living .
Jesus was raised up ,he is coming to testify against those that worship him and die a natural death like every living things die before the day of resurrection.
Everyone upon the earth will perish, And there will remain the Face of your Lord, Owner of Majesty and Honor.” – Quran (Surah Ar-Rahman) 55:26-27

They do not measure Allah with His true measure. The whole earth will be a mere handful for Him on the Day of Rising the heavens folded up in His right hand. Glory be to Him! He is exalted above the partners they ascribe!” (Qur'an, 39:67)
Religion / Re: Why Jesus Is Not Coming Back by Oricha62(m): 9:17pm On Jan 18, 2018
danvon:
Jesus actually claimed he will die

Sura 19:33 Maryam. Jesus speaking ‘And peace was upon me the day I was born, and (peace will be upon me) the day I die, and the day I shall be raised up to life (again).’

Exactly ,everyhing that has life will surely die before the day of resurrection . Only the creator of everything that exists both in the heaven and on earth will remain. The first and the last ,the ever living .
Jesus was raised up ,he is coming to testify against those that worship him and die a natural death like every living things die before the day of resurrection.
Religion / Re: Why Jesus Is Not Coming Back by Oricha62(m): 8:42pm On Jan 18, 2018
According to Muslims believe about Jesus(a.s)

An examination of the verses about Jesus in the Quran indicates that Jesus neither died nor was killed, but he was raised to the presence of Allah. In Surat an-Nisa, it is related that Jesus was not killed but raised to the presence of Allah to save him from been killed. The related verse follows:

And (on account of) their saying, "We killed the Messiah, 'Isa son of Maryam, Messenger of Allah." They did not kill him and they did not crucify him but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. But they certainly did not kill him. Allah raised him up to Himself. Allah is Almighty, All-Wise. (Surat an-Nisa: 157-158)


And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), but must believe in him ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), as only a Messenger of Allah and a human being], before his ['Iesa (Jesus) or a Jew's or a Christian's] death (at the time of the appearance of the angel of death). And on the Day of Resurrection, he ['Iesa (Jesus)] will be a witness against them.Quran 4 verse 159
Education / Re: 50 Courses You Can Study Without Credit In Mathematics by Oricha62(m): 7:07pm On Jan 18, 2018
Which course can one study without English?
Religion / Re: Man Burns Cross Because He Says Christians Are Worshiping Idols by Oricha62(m): 2:03pm On Jan 18, 2018
Snow02:
everybody is now suddenly an expert in religious activities OK we are watching
They are experts because there are no evidence to back the religious activities up.
You can wake up any day and claim God revealed to you .
There is no religion called Christian in the bible.Christians were not ask to go to church on Sunday in the bible. Jesus(a.s) never claimed to be Neither does he command his followers to pray in his name in the bible.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Nairaland Muslim Newbies: Introduce Yourselves Here by Oricha62(m): 9:26am On Jan 18, 2018
Assalamu alaikum my Muslim brothers and sisters,My name is Abdussalam Dawud from kogi state. I currently live in Abuja.I studied Islamic studies from Islamic online university .
Iam grateful for this opportunity given to Muslims to educate them . I work in a private school as Islamic studies teacher.
Religion / Re: The True Religion Of God : God (creator) And Creation by Oricha62(m): 4:51pm On Jan 17, 2018
enilove:


The name of God that cursed Adam is Jehovah . No man can tell the description of God because God is a Spirit Personality with Spiritual body:

John 4:24 KJV
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

The curse God placed on Adam are these:

Genesis 3:16-19 KJV
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. [17] And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; [18] Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; [19] In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art , and unto dust shalt thou return.

Man was not created to die , it was the sin that made God to pronounce death of we humans.

John 10:24-42 KJV
Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
[25] Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. [26] But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
[27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
[28] And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
[29] My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. [30] I and my Father are one.
[31] Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
[32] Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? [33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
[34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? [35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
[36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

[37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
[38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
[39] Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,
[40] And went away again beyond Jordan into the place where John at first baptized; and there he abode.
[41] And many resorted unto him, and said, John did no miracle: but all things that John spake of this man were true. [42] And many believed on him there.






Thanks for your reply. I didn't see in your post where God call himself jehova.

You said God doesn't have description even in the bible which people see as the book of God.
But In my religion(Islam), Allah description himself in the following chapter.

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

112:1 Say: He, Allah, is One.

112:2 Allah is He on Whom all depend.

112:3 He begets not, nor is He begotten;

112:4 And none is like Him.
Religion / Re: The True Religion Of God : God (creator) And Creation by Oricha62(m): 1:41pm On Jan 17, 2018
enilove:


I didn't you any harsh words.

I can prove to you that Christianity is the true religion and the Bible is the first and the last.

I will start from the foundation or origin of religion . Without this understanding , one can be deceived.

I will tell you the foundation of Christianity and the Bible as well :

Without the fall of Adam and Eve there wouldn't have been anything called religion. The curse of God on Adam makes everyone on earth prone to the attacks of Satan.
It was that sin that separated Man from God his Creator. This made Adam and his discendants living during the time of Noah to seek way to communicate with God. But unfortunately , Satan that deceived them did not leave them alone. Satan and his demons made the people of old to worship him and other demons. There 4 , the first form of religion was idolatry and witchraft. Thus, witchcraft brought wickedness and all the woes to the world and made man to be suffering contrary to God's wishes.

God began his ways of saving mankind ,after Noah ,by calling Abraham .

God told Abraham that his plan of salvation is through Isaac and not Ishmael , the founder of Arabia or the ancestral father of the Arabs.

Satan is always trying to disrupt God's plan. God new this so He told Abraham to send Ishmael away because His plan of Salvation is with Isaac and not Ishmeal.

Abraham , Isasc and Jacob died in Israel and were buried in the same place in Israel even b4 God gave them the land.
The God of Abraham can be trusted because of the wonders He did in Egypt when He called Moses and how He parted the Red Sea. God promised Abraham he was going to send his descendants to a foreign land and will bring them out with signs and wonders to show to everyone He is the Almighty.
This God has always been called God of Abraham , Isaac and Israel not God of Abraham and Ishmael.
Jesus came through the people of Israel . Moses only gave them the laws pending the coming of the Messiah , which is Jesus Christ.

Jesus came to take away the curse Adam brought on man to reconcile us back to God through his blood. This Jesus raised up the dead , walked on the sea , healed every form of deceases, used a clay to form a bird and it flew. He did not kill but came to be killed for our sake. His blood is not from any man but of the Holy Spirit. He did all those miracles and did numerous ones even for me and people living today.

The spreading of Christianity was not by killing the people but by showing signs and miracles which no one can do but God.

The Bible tell us that there will come a time when no one will be able to buy or sell unless he receives the mark of the beast 666. This is unfolding gradually through the computer and internet. The BVN registration , POS, and cashless policies are indicators to this prophecy. The Bible can be trusted bearing in mind that there was no bank as at the time if the prophecy.

Jesus' testimony speaks volume:

John 9:20-34 KJV
His parents answered them and said, We know that this is our son, and that he was born blind: [21] But by what means he now seeth, we know not; or who hath opened his eyes, we know not: he is of age; ask him: he shall speak for himself. [22] These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue. [23] Therefore said his parents, He is of age; ask him. [24] Then again called they the man that was blind, and said unto him, Give God the praise: we know that this man is a sinner. [25] He answered and said, Whether he be a sinner or no , I know not: one thing I know, that, whereas I was blind, now I see. [26] Then said they to him again, What did he to thee? how opened he thine eyes? [27] He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his disciples? [28] Then they reviled him, and said, Thou art his disciple; but we are Moses' disciples. [29] We know that God spake unto Moses: as for this fellow , we know not from whence he is. [30] The man answered and said unto them, Why herein is a marvellous thing, that ye know not from whence he is, and yet he hath opened mine eyes. [31] Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth. [32] Since the world began was it not heard that any man opened the eyes of one that was born blind. [33] If this man were not of God, he could do nothing. [34] They answered and said unto him, Thou wast altogether born in sins, and dost thou teach us? And they cast him out.

Be patient with me because iam going through your post gradually.

You said( The curse of God on Adam makes everyone on earth prone to the attacks of Satan.)
I asked what is the name and description of God that cursed Adam (A.S) and also what was the curse God placed on Adam (A.S)?
Religion / Re: The True Religion Of God : God (creator) And Creation by Oricha62(m): 10:01am On Jan 17, 2018
enilove:


Everything about Islam is false and idolatry.

1_The shrine ( Kabaah ) the pre Islamic idol worshipers used for their rituals is adopted by Islam.
2_Idol worshipers used to Tawaf the kabbah, Muslims tawaf the kabaah 7 times when they go on hajj.
3_Idol worshipers be4 Islam used to tawaf btw Safa and Marwa, the Muslims do that as well.
4_The idol worshipers used to kiss and worshipped the black stone, the Muhammed kissed the black stone and every Muslim does likewise.
5_The "Baal " worshippers were known to worshiped the moon and stars . "Allat" in mecca was worshipped as a moon goddess. Islam now makes the followers to worship this moon goddess by creating an image of half moon with star and makes the worshippers to place it at the topmost part of the mosques.
6_ The idol worshippers used the name Allah as their god when performing their rituals. Islam also adopted the name Allah as their God.

The crescent image of the moon and star is caved and place at the top most part of the Mosques for everyone to see and worshipped. God gave warnings regarding this in the Bible:

Zephaniah 1:4-6 KJV
I will also stretch out mine hand upon Judah, and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and I will cut off the remnant of Baal from this place, and the name of the Chemarims with the priests;
[5] And them that worship the host of heaven upon the housetops; and them that worship and that swear by the Lord , and that swear by Malcham;
.....

Deuteronomy 17:2-3 KJV
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
[3] And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;....

Islamic practices are the same with the pre Islamic Arab paganism.

Moreso , the Muhammed was a sex addict. How can you trust someone who spent all day having sex and kissed the idolworshipoers black stone?

Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:
Sahih Bukhari :
Narrated Qatada:

Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).


Volume 2, Book 26, Number 675:
Sahih Bukhari :
Narrated Zaid bin Aslam from his father who said:

"Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, 'By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' 'Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'

Op, go and deliberate on this , where you spend your eternity depends on knowing the truth. Satan is not a fool.

A fake always comes after the original. There is nothing like final revelation. God is not a failure and not author of confusion. God is the first and the last. The Bible is the first and the last.





All your accusations were all false ,if want to know the correct anwser to the above mentioned accusations bring them one after the another we shall discuss them.
Your heart wasn't inclined to know the truth but occupied with evils and hatred.
Can you denied that you didn't used vioent and harsh words in your post against my religion and prophet? Is that what your religion teaches?

Can YOU prove to me that your Religion is the true religion? And also prove it that bible is the first and last book revealed by God.
Religion / Re: The True Religion Of God : God (creator) And Creation by Oricha62(m): 6:41am On Jan 17, 2018
Oricha62:
God and Creation

Since the total submission of one's will to God represents the essence of worship, the basic message of God's divine religion, Islam, is the worship of God alone. It also requires the avoidance of worship directed to any person, place or thing other than God. Since everything other than God, the Creator of all things, is God's creation, it may be said that Islam, in essence, calls man away from worship of creation and invites him to worship only his Creator. He is the only one deserving of man's worship, because it is only by His will that prayers are answered.

Accordingly, if a man prays to a tree and his prayers are answered, it is not the tree that answered his prayers but God, Who allows the circumstances prayed for to take place. One might say, "That is obvious"; however, to tree-worshipers, it might not be so. Similarly, prayers to Jesus (p), Buddha, Krishna, St. Christopher, St. Jude, or even to Muhammad (p), are not answered by them, but are answered by God. Jesus (p) did not tell his followers to worship him but to worship God, as the Qur'an states:

"And behold! Allah will say: 'O Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say to men, worship me and my mother as gods besides Allah?'; He will say: 'Glory to you, I could never say what I had no right (to say)'" (Qur'an 5:116)

Nor did Jesus (p) worship himself when he worshiped, but rather he worshiped God. And Jesus (p) was reported in the Gospels to have said:

"It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.'" (Luke 4:cool
LUKE 4:8

The basic principle is contained in the opening chapter of the Qur'an, known as Surah al-Fatihah, verse 4:

"You alone do we worship and from you alone do we seek help."

Elsewhere in the final book of revelation, the Qur'an, God also said:

"And your Lord says: 'Call on Me and I will answer your (prayer).'" (Qur'an 40:60)

It is worth emphasizing that the basic message of Islam (namely, the worship of God alone) also proclaims that God and His creation are distinctly different entities. God is neither equal to His creation nor a part of it, nor is His creation equal to Him or a part of Him.

This might seem obvious, but man's worship of creation, instead of the Creator, is to a large degree based on ignorance, or neglect, of this concept. It is the belief that the essence of God is everywhere in His creation or that His divine being is or was present in some parts of His creation, which has provided justification for the worship of God's creation and naming it the worship of God. However, the message of Islam, as brought by the prophets of God, is to worship only God and to avoid the worship of His creation either directly or indirectly.

In the Qur'an, God clearly states:

"For We assuredly sent amongst every people a prophet, with the command: Worship Me and avoid false gods." (Qur'an 16:36)

When idol worshipers are questioned as to why they bow down to idols created by men, the invariable reply is that they are not actually worshiping the stone image, but God Who is present within it. They claim that the stone idol is only a focal point for God's essence and is not in itself God! One who has accepted the concept of God being present in any way within His creation will be obliged to accept this argument for idolatry. Whereas, one who understands the basic message of Islam and its implications would never agree to idolatry no matter how it is rationalized.

Those who have claimed divinity for themselves down through the ages have often based their claims on the mistaken belief that God is present in man. Taking one step further, they claim that God is more present in them than the rest of us, and that other humans should therefore submit to them and worship them as God in person or as God concentrated within their persons. Similarly, those who have asserted the godhood of others after their deaths have found fertile ground among those who accept the false belief of God's presence in man.
It should be abundantly clear by now that one who has grasped the basic message of Islam and its implications could never agree to worship another human being under any circumstance. God's religion, in essence, is a clear call to the worship of the Creator and the rejection of creation-worship in any form. This is the meaning of the motto of Islam:

Laa ilaaha illaa Allah" (there is no god except Allah)

The sincere declaration of this phrase and the acceptance of prophethood automatically brings one within the fold of Islam, and sincere belief in it guarrantees one Paradise. Thus, the final Prophet of Islam (p) is reported to have said:

"Any one who says 'There is no god but Allah', and dies holding that (belief) will enter Paradise."

Belief in this declaration of faith requires that one submit his/her will to God in the way taught by the prophets of God. It also requires the believer to give up the worship of false gods.

Say, “Who rescues you from the darknesses of the land and sea [when] you call upon Him imploring [aloud] and privately, ‘If He should save us from this [crisis], we will surely be among the thankful.’ Say, “It is Allah who saves you from it and from every distress; then you [still] associate others with Him.” (Quran 6:63-64)

And He gave you from all you asked of Him. And if you should count the favor of Allah, you could not enumerate them. Indeed, mankind is [generally] most unjust and ungrateful.
Quran 14:34

True prayers are to be directed to Him alone; and those to whom they pray instead of Him do not respond to them at all, but they are like one who stretches his hands towards water so that it may reach his mouth (by itself), while it is not to reach it. And the prayer of the disbelievers (that they make to false gods) is nothing but straying in void. (Quran 13:14)
Religion / The True Religion Of God : God (creator) And Creation by Oricha62(m): 6:31am On Jan 17, 2018
God and Creation

Since the total submission of one's will to God represents the essence of worship, the basic message of God's divine religion, Islam, is the worship of God alone. It also requires the avoidance of worship directed to any person, place or thing other than God. Since everything other than God, the Creator of all things, is God's creation, it may be said that Islam, in essence, calls man away from worship of creation and invites him to worship only his Creator. He is the only one deserving of man's worship, because it is only by His will that prayers are answered.

Accordingly, if a man prays to a tree and his prayers are answered, it is not the tree that answered his prayers but God, Who allows the circumstances prayed for to take place. One might say, "That is obvious"; however, to tree-worshipers, it might not be so. Similarly, prayers to Jesus (p), Buddha, Krishna, St. Christopher, St. Jude, or even to Muhammad (p), are not answered by them, but are answered by God. Jesus (p) did not tell his followers to worship him but to worship God, as the Qur'an states:

"And behold! Allah will say: 'O Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say to men, worship me and my mother as gods besides Allah?'; He will say: 'Glory to you, I could never say what I had no right (to say)'" (Qur'an 5:116)

Nor did Jesus (p) worship himself when he worshiped, but rather he worshiped God. And Jesus (p) was reported in the Gospels to have said:

"It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.'" (Luke 4:cool
LUKE 4:8

The basic principle is contained in the opening chapter of the Qur'an, known as Surah al-Fatihah, verse 4:

"You alone do we worship and from you alone do we seek help."

Elsewhere in the final book of revelation, the Qur'an, God also said:

"And your Lord says: 'Call on Me and I will answer your (prayer).'" (Qur'an 40:60)

It is worth emphasizing that the basic message of Islam (namely, the worship of God alone) also proclaims that God and His creation are distinctly different entities. God is neither equal to His creation nor a part of it, nor is His creation equal to Him or a part of Him.

This might seem obvious, but man's worship of creation, instead of the Creator, is to a large degree based on ignorance, or neglect, of this concept. It is the belief that the essence of God is everywhere in His creation or that His divine being is or was present in some parts of His creation, which has provided justification for the worship of God's creation and naming it the worship of God. However, the message of Islam, as brought by the prophets of God, is to worship only God and to avoid the worship of His creation either directly or indirectly.

In the Qur'an, God clearly states:

"For We assuredly sent amongst every people a prophet, with the command: Worship Me and avoid false gods." (Qur'an 16:36)

When idol worshipers are questioned as to why they bow down to idols created by men, the invariable reply is that they are not actually worshiping the stone image, but God Who is present within it. They claim that the stone idol is only a focal point for God's essence and is not in itself God! One who has accepted the concept of God being present in any way within His creation will be obliged to accept this argument for idolatry. Whereas, one who understands the basic message of Islam and its implications would never agree to idolatry no matter how it is rationalized.

Those who have claimed divinity for themselves down through the ages have often based their claims on the mistaken belief that God is present in man. Taking one step further, they claim that God is more present in them than the rest of us, and that other humans should therefore submit to them and worship them as God in person or as God concentrated within their persons. Similarly, those who have asserted the godhood of others after their deaths have found fertile ground among those who accept the false belief of God's presence in man.
It should be abundantly clear by now that one who has grasped the basic message of Islam and its implications could never agree to worship another human being under any circumstance. God's religion, in essence, is a clear call to the worship of the Creator and the rejection of creation-worship in any form. This is the meaning of the motto of Islam:

Laa ilaaha illaa Allah" (there is no god except Allah)

The sincere declaration of this phrase and the acceptance of prophethood automatically brings one within the fold of Islam, and sincere belief in it guarrantees one Paradise. Thus, the final Prophet of Islam (p) is reported to have said:

"Any one who says 'There is no god but Allah', and dies holding that (belief) will enter Paradise."

Belief in this declaration of faith requires that one submit his/her will to God in the way taught by the prophets of God. It also requires the believer to give up the worship of false gods.
Religion / Re: Was The Holy Qoran Created Like The Holy Bible by Oricha62(m): 9:29pm On Jan 16, 2018
tallfish145:

Here is an answer I wrote to an almost identical question. I write as a Christian. A Muslim may want to say more about how they believe the Qur'an was written.

When I lived in our village, I sometimes I wrote letters for illiterate old ladies to their children who worked in the city. One lady would tell me phrase by phrase what she wanted me to say and would then ask me to read back to her what I have written so as to be sure I did not changed her words. That is basically the way Muslims believe the Quran was revealed to their Prophet Mohammed.
Another lady would tell me, “Please write to let my son know that his uncle had an accident and is in hospital.” For this second letter, the idea and the content come from the lady, but the words and the style come from me. This is the way Christians believe the Bible to be written. The idea and content come from God, but the actual words and the style come from each one of the 40 or so different authors. Learned ones such as Paul wrote in scholarly style with sophisticated vocabulary, but less learned authors such as the rural farmer, Amos, wrote in simpler language. All of them, however, wrote as they were inspired by God’s Holy Spirit.
Qur'an was revealed not created.it was revealed based on the situation that Muslim are facing for the periods of twenty three years.

Indeed, We have sent down for you (O mankind) a book (the Quran) in which there is Dhikrukum,(your Reminder or an honor for you i.e. honor for the one who follows the teaching of the Quran and acts on its teachings). Will you not then understand?

Quran (Surah Al-Anbiya, Verse 10
Religion / Re: What Is The True Religion Of God ? by Oricha62(m): 7:56pm On Jan 16, 2018
Sarassin:


You started off your post rather beautifully making valid points, you rightly stated that all religions claim that they are right and the others are wrong and that they cannot all be right- in fact the strong possibility exists that they are all wrong. You went on to state that you would offer evidence as to why a particular religion is the one true religion and there you seem to have derailed your own train.

You offer the self-same evidence as others, i.e a religion self-validated by its own teachings. All in all, vastly disappointing.
That is your level of understanding, it was a clear presentation for anyone who want to choose the true .
The points mentioned in my post were all base on religious names.
Prove to me that your religion is the true religion of God. Iam waiting for your relpy .
Religion / Re: What Is The True Religion Of God ? by Oricha62(m): 4:49pm On Jan 16, 2018
enilove:


Have I abused you? In fact , I don't abuse people but I will tell you the truth.

Is it not funny to say Jesus was a Muslim? It makes one to know the depth of falsehood Islam is made off.

If God wanted people to worship like the Muslims , he would have revealed it earlier and no one would say they copied Islam since Islam came later. If there is need for ablution , why was it not revealed to the Israelites ?

There are so many idol worshippers who believed in one god and the last day. Even in Nigeria, all the idol worshippers believe in one God and bow their heads to the ground , does that make them Muslims?

Even the devil, Satan believes in one God, does that mean he is worshipping that God? No.

James 2:19 KJV
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Christians believed in One God when the Arabs were still worshipping 360 gods in mecca . And it is written in the Bible more than 50 times . It is not Muhammed or anyone that will tell us there is one God :

1 Corinthians 8:6 KJV
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Based on the Bible ref you gave as evidence of submission.

Matthew 7:21-23 KJV
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

From this scripture above , you claimed Jesus will renounce them because they don't submit to God. That is an error.
Jesus will renounce anyone on the day of judgement based on iniquity , even though they worshipped God day and night.



How would you explain the verses below:
Exodus 19:14

So Moses went down from the mountain to the people and consecrated the people, and they washed their garments.

2 Samuel 12:20
Verse Concepts
So David arose from the ground, washed, anointed himself, and changed his clothes; and he came into the house of the LORD and worshiped. Then he came to his own house, and when he requested, they set food before him and he ate.

Mark 7:3
Verse Concepts
(For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they carefully wash their hands, thus observing the traditions of the elders;
Religion / Re: What Is The True Religion Of God ? by Oricha62(m): 1:51pm On Jan 16, 2018
ifex370:




You can call it wrong believe, but I don't have much of a choice, after the things I see n hear everyday on the news from Muslims.. Its hard not to believe
Things YOU hear and see everyday on the news ,those things you heard are from the media but iam telling the true teaching of islam.
It will be wrong of me to take the attitudes and behaviours of some Christians and pastors to judge Christianity and christians.
Religion / Re: What Is The True Religion Of God ? by Oricha62(m): 1:41pm On Jan 16, 2018
enilove:
Op, you can't see the lies in Islam because of the veil covering your eyes and heart.
What I am about to write now is not for argument , it is for your recitation just like you Quran, but in your heart.

Islam means to "submit "to Allah . Have asked yourself if Allah is not a true God, where will your submition lead to? Allah has been used by the pagan worshipper b4 Muhammed and they were called idol worshippers, why? After all they submitted themselves to Allah and were not called Muslims but pagans. They submitted to the level of calling themselves "Abdullah" , which means SLAVE of Allah.

Why Allat , the moon goddess , bears the feminine name of Allah ? And why is her sign mounted on the top of every mosque?
I mean the crescent moon and star.

The Muslims always look for the appearance of the moon to indicate when to celebrate some of their festivals .

Bible warned the Istaelite about the worship of the moon and the stars :

Deuteronomy 17:2-3 KJV
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
[3] And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;

Deuteronomy 4:19 KJV
And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the Lord thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

Also, Adam was not a prophet. When God created him, the earth was not polluted, there was no sin , no body to warn. Everything was perfect. Adam brought death and suffering to this world , he was the first to be cursed by God. He may not make heaven.

Why is the Quran the final and not the first revelation. The God we serve is the first and the last. The original is always b4 the fake. The Quran is fake.Islam is false.Muhammad is a false prophet. He should be stoned to death by making people to worship idols Allah and Allat.

I am available if you want the discussion to continue but if you want to fight or insult please iam out.
Religion / Re: What Is The True Religion Of God ? by Oricha62(m): 1:37pm On Jan 16, 2018
enilove:
Op, you can't see the lies in Islam because of the veil covering your eyes and heart.
What I am about to write now is not for argument , it is for your recitation just like you Quran, but in your heart.

Islam means to "submit "to Allah . Have asked yourself if Allah is not a true God, where will your submition lead to? Allah has been used by the pagan worshipper b4 Muhammed and they were called idol worshippers, why? After all they submitted themselves to Allah and were not called Muslims but pagans. They submitted to the level of calling themselves "Abdullah" , which means SLAVE of Allah.

Why Allat , the moon goddess , bears the feminine name of Allah ? And why is her sign mounted on the top of every mosque?
I mean the crescent moon and star.

The Muslims always look for the appearance of the moon to indicate when to celebrate some of their festivals .

Bible warned the Istaelite about the worship of the moon and the stars :

Deuteronomy 17:2-3 KJV
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
[3] And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;

Deuteronomy 4:19 KJV
And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the Lord thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

Also, Adam was not a prophet. When God created him, the earth was not polluted, there was no sin , no body to warn. Everything was perfect. Adam brought death and suffering to this world , he was the first to be cursed by God. He may not make heaven.

Why is the Quran the final and not the first revelation. The God we serve is the first and the last. The original is always b4 the fake. The Quran is fake.Islam is false.Muhammad is a false prophet. He should be stoned to death by making people to worship idols Allah and Allat.

My brother please,Since we have been discussing I have not used harsh words on anyone,becareful with chose of words.

Allah has commanded us to Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and goodly exhortation, and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious.” (16:125)
Religion / Re: What Is The True Religion Of God ? by Oricha62(m): 11:17am On Jan 16, 2018
ifex370:



That's not what I believe, I believe the non violent ones are the one's that can't afford to be violent, or nvr too get enough liver to de violent..and as soon as that happens.. Combustion occurs..

In order words.. They're just a ticking time bomb
That is wrong believe about Islam my brother.
Religion / Re: What Is The True Religion Of God ? by Oricha62(m): 11:16am On Jan 16, 2018
[quote author=ifex370 post=64244095]


That's not what I believe, I believe the non violent ones are the one's that can't afford to be violent, or nvr too get enough liver to de violent..and as soon as that happens.. Combustion occurs..

In order words.. They're just a ticking time bomb[/quote.
That is wrong believe about Islam my brother.
Religion / Re: What Is The True Religion Of God ? by Oricha62(m): 9:57am On Jan 16, 2018
ifex370:




So why are you guys anti love, always violent and always oppressive
Not all Muslims are violent which I believe you can affirm due to your contact with some Muslims.
Some violent ones among Muslim may be as a result of ignorant of the correct teaching of islam,and also some are influenced by their cultural practices and believes before islam.
Religion / Re: What Is The True Religion Of God ? by Oricha62(m): 7:21am On Jan 16, 2018
Netanyahu1:
Love your neighbor as yourself.
Don't allow media to brainwash you about Islam and attitudes of some ignorant Muslims around the world.but study the Qur'an and hadith to know more about Islam.
Religion / Re: What Is The True Religion Of God ? by Oricha62(m): 7:17am On Jan 16, 2018
Netanyahu1:
Love your neighbor as yourself.
That is exactly what Islam teaches.
Prophet Muhammad(saw) said:
Anyone who believes in God and the Last Day should not harm his neighbour,
and anyone who believes in God and the Last Day should look after his guests generously
and anybody who believes in God and the Last Day should talk what is good or keep quiet.

(Bukhari)
Religion / What Is The True Religion Of God ? by Oricha62(m): 6:59am On Jan 16, 2018
Each person is born in a circumstance which is not of his own choosing. The religion of his family or the ideology of the state is thrust upon him from the very beginning of his existence in this world.

By the time he reaches his teens, he is usually fully brain-washed into believing that the beliefs of his particular society are the correct beliefs that everyone should have. However, when some people mature and are exposed to other belief-systems, they begin to question the validity of their own beliefs.



The seekers of truth often reach a point of confusion upon realizing that each and every religion, sect, ideology and philosophy claims to be the one and only correct way for man. Indeed they all encourage people to good. So, which one is right? They cannot all be right since each claims all others to be wrong. Then how does the seeker of truth choose the right way?

Like every other religion or philosophy, Islam also claims to be the one and only true way to God. In this respect it is no different from other systems. This article intends to provide some evidence for the validity of that claim. However, it must always be kept in mind that one can only determine the true path by putting aside emotions and prejudices, which often blind us to reality. Then, and only then, will we be able to use our God-given intelligence and make a rational and correct decision.

There are several arguments which may be advanced to support Islam's claim to be the true religion of God. The following are only three of the most obvious.
The first argument is based on the Divine origin of the names of the religion and the comprehensiveness of its meaning.
The second deals with the unique and uncomplicated teachings concerning the relationship between God, man, and creation.
The third argument derives from the fact that Islam is universally attainable by all men at all times. These are the three basic components of what logic and reason dictate necessary for a religion to be considered the true religion of God.


THE RELIGION'S NAME

The first thing that one should know and clearly understand about Islam is what the word "Islam" itself means. The Arabic word "Islam" means the submission or surrender of one's will to the only true God, known in Arabic as "Allah". One who submits his will to God is termed in Arabic a "Muslim". The religion of Islam is not named after a person or people, nor was it decided by a later generation of man, as in the case of Christianity which was named after Jesus Christ (p), Buddhism after Gautama Buddha, Confucianism after Confucius, Marxism after Karl Marx, Judaism after the tribe of Judah, and Hinduism after the Hindus. Islam (submission to the will of God) is the religion which was given to Adam (p), the first man and the first prophet of God, and it was the religion of all the prophets sent by Allah to mankind. Further, its name was chosen by God Himself and clearly mentioned in the final scripture which He revealed to man. In the final revelation, called the Qur'an in Arabic, Allah states the following:

"This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and I have chosen for you Islam as you religion." (Qur'an 5:3)

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to God), never will it be accepted of him." (Qur'an 3:85)

Hence, Islam does not claim to be a new religion brought by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) into Arabia in the seventh century, but rather to be a re-expression in its final form of the true religion of Almighty God, Allah, as it was originally revealed to Adam (p) and subsequent prophets.

At this point we might comment briefly on two other religions that claim to be the true path. Nowhere in the Bible will you find God revealing to Prophet Moses' (p) people or their descendants that their religion is called Judaism, or to the followers of Christ (p) that their religion is called Christianity. In other words, the names "Judaism" and "Christianity" had no divine origin or approval. It was not until long after his departure that the name "Christianity" was given to Jesus' (p) religion.

What, then, was Jesus' (p) religion in actual fact, as distinct from its name? His religion was reflected in his teachings, which he urged his followers to accept as guiding principles in their relationship with God. In Islam, Jesus (p) is a prophet sent by Allah and his Arabic name is Eesa. Like the prophets before him, he called upon the people to surrender their will to the will of God (which is what Islam stands for). For example, in the New Testament, it is stated that Jesus (p) taught his followers to pray to God as follows:

"Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your Name, may your will be done on earth as it is in heaven." (Luke 11:2; Matt. 6:9-10)

This concept was emphasized by Jesus (p) in a number of his statements recorded in the Gospels. He taught, for example, that only those who submitted would inherit Paradise.

Jesus (p) also pointed out that he himself submitted to the will of God.

"None of those who call me 'Lord' will enter the kingdom of God, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven." (Matt. 7:21)

"I cannot do anything of myself. I judge as I hear and my judgment is honest because I am not seeking my own will but the will of Him Who sent me." (John 5:30)

There are many reports in the Gospels which show that Jesus (p) made it clear to his followers that he was not the one true God. For example, when speaking about the final Hour, he said:

"No one knows about the Day or Hour, not even the angels in heaven, not the son, but only the Father." (Mark 13:32)

Thus, Jesus (p) like the prophets before him and the one who came after him, taught the religion of Islam: submission to the will of the One true God.
Religion / Re: Why Is There So Much Gossip In Churches by Oricha62(m): 6:43am On Jan 16, 2018
bloodmoneyspita:


prophet of God means sent by God, it does not make you equal to God.. There is no one that is perfect, even if you pray ten times it doesn't make you perfect. Only God can determine who is perfect.

Thanks for your reply.My comment was based on Islamic perspective,Muslims also believes that no one is perfect as you have mentioned.
But we doesn't call every preacher a prophet apart from the ones Allah has mentioned in the Qur'an.
Religion / Re: Why Is There So Much Gossip In Churches by Oricha62(m): 6:33am On Jan 16, 2018
asuustrike2009:

That they are prophets doesn't mean the human nature isn't in them. That is why many still fall into sin because they are human and not spirit. An example is Moses in the bible. He was a prophet of God yet he went astray. Did God still use him? Yes.A prophet of God is like every other person on this earth. What differentiate them from others is the oil they have on their head.
Thanks for your reply.My comment was based on Islamic perspective,Muslims also believes that no one is perfect as you have mentioned.
But we doesn't call every preacher a prophet apart from the ones Allah has mentioned in the Qur'an.
Religion / Re: God Does Nothing Without Man's Effort. by Oricha62(m): 10:47pm On Jan 15, 2018
DeSepiero:
Lol
We've always been helping God since time immemorial.
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