enilove:



Tell us how they are related.

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enilove:



Tell us how they are related.

Are you all ready to the REMOVE the reasons from yourselves?

true2god:
You are getting it damn wrong. I taught I have explain this Islamic principles to you before. The latter ayah, if it contradicts the former ayah automatically abrogates it. Time and situation of events dictates what allahh allegedly sent down to Mohammed as a revelation.

Let look at the verses again:

surah al-baqara 2 ayah 256:

Yusuf Ali translation: Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth.

The ayah above talks about religious freedom when Mohammed was in Mecca in the formative years of Islam.

Now let's look at Quran 9:29:

Yusuf Ali translations: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

The second surah was allegedly given to Mohammed in Medina when Islam had matured and militarily strong to fight off the mushrikoons and the kafirs. The two ayah are very contradictory (to non-muslims) but not contradictory (to an informed Muslim, unlike you). The second ayah (Qur'an 9:29) is the latter ayah which abrogated the former ayah (Qur'an 2:256).

I believe you get this simple logic.

Iam not surprised that non muslims claimed the above verses contradictory without knowledge for the following reasons

1. They are not a Muslim
2. They never believes in either Quran,hadith or Prophet Muhammad(saw).They only read to argue.
3. They never read the tafsir of the quran.
NOTE: tasfir is different from translation
4. They never learned asbab al-nuzul of each surah of the Quran.

IF YOU REMOVE THE ABOVE REASONS FROM YOURSELF,YOU WILL BELIEVE THAT THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION IN THE ENTIRE QURAN.


For any further discussion contact me through oricha62@gmail.com

true2god:
Quran 2:256.

It now crystal clear to me that you have no idea about abrogated verses in Quran.
It is only an ignorant among Muslims you can deceive not a practicing Muslims and the ones that study Islamic studies as a course.
May Allah used the little you about Islam to guide you to Islam.

I THANK ALLAH FOR HIS BLESSING UPON ME.

true2god:
Quran 2:256.

READ THE TRANSLATION OF THE QUR'AN YOU QUOTED

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 256:
لَا إِكْرَاهَ فِي الدِّينِ قَد تَّبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الْغَيِّ فَمَن يَكْفُرْ بِالطَّاغُوتِ وَيُؤْمِن بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ اسْتَمْسَكَ بِالْعُرْوَةِ الْوُثْقَىٰ لَا انفِصَامَ لَهَا وَاللَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ

There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.


You are just arguing without knowledge.
The verse you quotes is NOT among the abrogated verses. If you disagree with me,then, WHAT IS AN ABROGATED VERSE IN ISLAM?

true2god:
Stop this bro, there is nothing like 'the entire Quran' when Mohammed was alive and there is nowhere any jibril used to read any 'entire Quran' to Mohammed. The so-called revelations were allegedly revealed bit by bit under different circumstances and different locations, notably mecca and Medina.

While the so-called angel jibril gave the revelations, the sahabas, who among are zaid ibn thabit and Abdullah ibn sarh ibn abi sard wrote them down. This so-called revelations are written on leaves, horse back, bones, and any other place so that some of the sahabas can always remember an ayah. There is no any of the sahaba that commited the entire revelation into memory.

A sahaba can commit 2 ayah, some 3, etc. So when the apostle of allahh died and uthman wanted to preserve his legacy, asked all the surviving sahabas to come and recite whatever ayah they might have in their memory, this is how the Quran was made: See hadith below:

Sahih al-Bukhari Book 60 Hadith 201
Narrated Zaid bin Thabit Al-Ansari: who was one of those who used to write the Divine Revelation:

Abu Bakr sent for me after the (heavy) casualties among the warriors (of the battle) of Yamama (where a great number of Qurra' were killed). 'Umar was present with Abu Bakr who said, 'Umar has come to me and said, The people have suffered heavy casualties on the day of (the battle of) Yamama, and I am afraid that there will be more casualties among the Qurra' (those who know the Qur'an by heart) at other battle-fields, whereby a large part of the Qur'an may be lost, unless you collect it. And I am of the opinion that you should collect the Qur'an." Abu Bakr added, "I said to 'Umar, 'How can I do something which Allah's Apostle has not done?' 'Umar said (to me), 'By Allah, it is (really) a good thing.'

So 'Umar kept on pressing, trying to persuade me to accept his proposal, till Allah opened my bosom for it and I had the same opinion as 'Umar." (Zaid bin Thabit added Umar was sitting with him (Abu Bakr) and was not speaking. me). "You are a wise young man and we do not suspect you (of telling lies or of forgetfulness): and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah's Apostle. Therefore, look for the Qur'an and collect it (in one manuscript). " By Allah, if he (Abu Bakr) had ordered me to shift one of the mountains (from its place) it would not have been harder for me than what he had ordered me concerning the collection of the Qur'an. I said to both of them, "How dare you do a thing which the Prophet has not done?" Abu Bakr said, "By Allah, it is (really) a good thing. So I kept on arguing with him about it till Allah opened my bosom for that which He had opened the bosoms of Abu Bakr and Umar.

So I started locating Quranic material and collecting it from parchments, scapula, leaf-stalks of date palms and from the memories of men (who knew it by heart). I found with Khuzaima two Verses of Surat-at-Tauba which I had not found with anybody else, (and they were):-- "Verily there has come to you an Apostle (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty He (Muhammad) is ardently anxious over you (to be rightly guided)" (9.128) The manuscript on which the Quran was collected, remained with Abu Bakr till Allah took him unto Him, and then with 'Umar till Allah took him unto Him, and finally it remained with Hafsa, Umar's daughter.

This is how your Qur'an came to be finally brought together as a single religious book. And you know what, uthman ibn Affan burnt some copies of the Quran he didn't agree with. Why did uthman burn some copies of the Quran that might have been used as today's evidence for or against Islam?

You asked questions which I answered but you don't believe it. Answer my question before we continue.

true2god:
Stop this bro, there is nothing like 'the entire Quran' when Mohammed was alive and there is nowhere any jibril used to read any 'entire Quran' to Mohammed. The so-called revelations were allegedly revealed bit by bit under different circumstances and different locations, notably mecca and Medina.

While the so-called angel jibril gave the revelations, the sahabas, who among are zaid ibn thabit and Abdullah ibn sarh ibn abi sard wrote them down. This so-called revelations are written on leaves, horse back, bones, and any other place so that some of the sahabas can always remember an ayah. There is no any of the sahaba that commited the entire revelation into memory.

A sahaba can commit 2 ayah, some 3, etc. So when the apostle of allahh died and uthman wanted to preserve his legacy, asked all the surviving sahabas to come and recite whatever ayah they might have in their memory, this is how the Quran was made: See hadith below:

Sahih al-Bukhari Book 60 Hadith 201
Narrated Zaid bin Thabit Al-Ansari: who was one of those who used to write the Divine Revelation:

Abu Bakr sent for me after the (heavy) casualties among the warriors (of the battle) of Yamama (where a great number of Qurra' were killed). 'Umar was present with Abu Bakr who said, 'Umar has come to me and said, The people have suffered heavy casualties on the day of (the battle of) Yamama, and I am afraid that there will be more casualties among the Qurra' (those who know the Qur'an by heart) at other battle-fields, whereby a large part of the Qur'an may be lost, unless you collect it. And I am of the opinion that you should collect the Qur'an." Abu Bakr added, "I said to 'Umar, 'How can I do something which Allah's Apostle has not done?' 'Umar said (to me), 'By Allah, it is (really) a good thing.'

So 'Umar kept on pressing, trying to persuade me to accept his proposal, till Allah opened my bosom for it and I had the same opinion as 'Umar." (Zaid bin Thabit added Umar was sitting with him (Abu Bakr) and was not speaking. me). "You are a wise young man and we do not suspect you (of telling lies or of forgetfulness): and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah's Apostle. Therefore, look for the Qur'an and collect it (in one manuscript). " By Allah, if he (Abu Bakr) had ordered me to shift one of the mountains (from its place) it would not have been harder for me than what he had ordered me concerning the collection of the Qur'an. I said to both of them, "How dare you do a thing which the Prophet has not done?" Abu Bakr said, "By Allah, it is (really) a good thing. So I kept on arguing with him about it till Allah opened my bosom for that which He had opened the bosoms of Abu Bakr and Umar.

So I started locating Quranic material and collecting it from parchments, scapula, leaf-stalks of date palms and from the memories of men (who knew it by heart). I found with Khuzaima two Verses of Surat-at-Tauba which I had not found with anybody else, (and they were):-- "Verily there has come to you an Apostle (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty He (Muhammad) is ardently anxious over you (to be rightly guided)" (9.128) The manuscript on which the Quran was collected, remained with Abu Bakr till Allah took him unto Him, and then with 'Umar till Allah took him unto Him, and finally it remained with Hafsa, Umar's daughter.

This is how your Qur'an came to be finally brought together as a single religious book. And you know what, uthman ibn Affan burnt some copies of the Quran he didn't agree with. Why did uthman burn some copies of the Quran that might have been used as today's evidence for or against Islam?

Answer my question before we continue the discussion.
Give me abrogated verse that is in the Quran of today?

enilove:


The problem Muhammed had with the demon gabriel was that
he was forgetful:

Book 004, Number 1720:
Sahih Bukhari :
'A'isha reported that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) heard a person reciting the Qur'an at night. Upon this he said: May Allah show mercy to him; he has reminded me of such and such a verse which I had missed in such and such a surah.

Did you read the hadith well ?

Angle jibril normally read the entire Quran with prophet Muhammad(saw) every Ramadan before he passed away.

Do you know the number of Ramadan that passes during his time?

true2god:
I am sorry bro, the Quran you have today is not the Quran of Mohammed ibn Abdullah but the handwork of uthman ibn Affan, the 3rd khalifah. Many Quranic verses had been cancelled or burnt before the final compilation, by uthman ibn Affan, what you have today as the quran.

The hadith below might be of a bit help to you:

Sahih bukhari: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 69 :

Narrated by Anas bin Malik:

For thirty days Allah's Apostle invoked Allah to curse those who had killed the companions of Bir-Mauna; he invoked evil upon the tribes of Ral, Dhakwan, and Usaiya who disobeyed Allah and His Apostle. There was reveled about those who were killed at Bir-Mauna a Quranic Verse we used to recite, but it was cancelled later on. The Verse was: "Inform our people that we have met our Lord. He is pleased with us and He has made us pleased".

Sahih bukhari
Volume 3, Book 31, Number 169 and 170 :
Narrated by Tawus

Ibn 'Abbas said, "Allah's Apostle set out from Medina to Mecca and he fasted till he reached 'Usfan, where he asked for water and raised his hand to let the people see him, and then broke the fast, and did not fast after that till he reached Mecca, and that happened in Ramadan." Ibn 'Abbas used to say, "Allah's Apostle (sometimes) fasted and (sometimes) did not fast during the journeys so whoever wished to fast could fast, and whoever wished not to fast, could do so."

sahih bukhari Volume 3, Book 31, Number 170 :
Narrated by Nafi:

Ibn 'Umar recited the verse: "They had a choice either to fast or to feed a poor person for every day, and said that the order of this Verse was cancelled.

Where are the above ayas written in the Qur'an? The above verses have been removed, cancelled, deleted, removed, declined and expunged from the Qur'an, according to your own authoritative source, sahih bukhari. If that's the case, how many more Qur'anic verses had been cancelled by men when allahh said it the Qur'an that his words can never be changed by men (Quran 6:115). So it is either the current Qur'an is never the word of any allahh or Mohammed was confused when he said allahh's words can never be changed.

You said jibril revealed the Qur'an to Mohammed, please can you show me a single place/proof where jibril personally told Muhammad 'I AM JIBRIL'?

Thanks so brother,you don't have to say sorry ,you are entitled to your opinion provided there is harsh words in your opinions.

You said the Quran of today is that uthman not The Qur'an revealed to prophet Muhammad(saw) because of abrogated verse in the Quran.

WHAT YOU SAID IS NOT TRUE.

Yes,there are abrogated verse in the Qur'an for a valid reasons BUT both verses are present in the Quran of today.
Quran was revealed within the period of twenty three years to prophet Muhammad(saw) before he passed away. It wasn't revealed once as a single but gradually with the periods mentioned. The first surah revealed to him by angle Jibril was ssuratulAlaq.verse 1-5 when he was in the cave hira.Angel jjibrilintroduced himself to the prophet Muhammad(saw) before the revelation.
prophet Muhammad(saw) ask a companion named Zaid bin thabbit to record any surah or verse revealed before die.and Also many companions memory the Qur'an because prophet normally teach them any surah revealed.

When prophet (saw) died, majority of people that memoried Qur'an were killed.
Uthman fear that he may loss the Qur'an without getting to the generation of Muslims.
He thought of the only solution is to complile it in one book.
Zaid bin thabit was ask to put Quran together. People that memories then were called to affirm its correctness. which they affirmed.

After the death of the prophet Muhammad(saw) ,revelation stop.
Abrogated verses,the new and old are still present in the Quran of today.

THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTION.

Now give me the abrogated verse that is not in the quran of today as you claimed.

enilove:


Change the "does" to "do".

Thanks so much .

butterfly777:
You said 'Iqra does not mean read bacause Mohammed could not read and write' . This is a pathetic fallacy and shows your write up is based on sentiment, not logic and objectivity. You cant just reject the meaning of a word because it doesnt tally with the little information you have. The information is even likely to be incomplete and untrue.

Your level of assimilation is very low.
I said iqraa and quran come from the same root word ,QARA'A.
Iqraa is a command word but Quran means that which is read.

Kylekent59:
Correct your subject op
Why do Muslims and not why does Muslims

What to correct in my subject,tell me ?

superhumanist:


This does not make sense considering that a non-muslim wife too can chose to eat pork or do things that are considered to be haraam.

What a non-muslim husband can do, a non-muslim wife can do also.

Remember Muslims are allowed to eat port .

superhumanist:



This does not sell help the arguments against Islam that claim that Islam treats women as less than men

Regarding the Islamic ruling in which men are not permitted to wear silk/gold but women are, a feminist would argue that it shows that women are taken as ornaments for men. They should be pretty while men should take care of them.

Wearing gold or silk does not change the fact that women struggle to be independent in Islamic society. They can't marry outside the religion. Their testimony is not as valid as a man in court etc.


Going to war or taking care financially of a woman by men only shows that Islam view women as children who cannot fight or take care of themselves.

Some of The reasons why Muslim women are not allowed to marry non muslim are as follows

It is obligatory upon women to obey their husband in in Islam,if they don't comply with the rules of the husband,they will be sinful.
If the non muslim husband wants forbidden things like eating pork and others, the women will sinful if she obey or not .
In both cases,she is sinful.

SAMBARRY:
I see .keep encouraging marriage out of pity or to "help or protect" the women

Why are you not sincere? Is that only explanation I mentioned?
My aim have achieved just for you to read my post .believe them or not.

IF YOU WANT US TO CONTINUE ,ANSWER ALL MY QUESTIONS THERE.

Kolanist:
U are attacking christianity but are ignorant or ignore the flaws&wickedness of islam.If u are a muslim explain jihad in the context of this verses. QURAN 2:216-218, QURAN 9:122-123, QURAN 47:4, QURAN 2:190-193 browse this site to know more~ http://www.chick.com/m/reading/tracts/readtract.asp?stk=1058

Brother,I strongly think the wickedness of Islam you used in your question is NOT THE BEST WORD ,No one knows tomorrow. I hope my my explanation will reduce your misunderstanding about Islam .

Kolanist:
U are attacking christianity but are ignorant or ignore the flaws&wickedness of islam.If u are a muslim explain jihad in the context of this verses. QURAN 2:216-218, QURAN 9:122-123, QURAN 47:4, QURAN 2:190-193 browse this site to know more~ http://www.chick.com/m/reading/tracts/readtract.asp?stk=1058

Further explanation regarding your question


Jihad, Arabic word, means to struggle, to strive, to do something good, to overcome something evil. The Prophet (saw) said,

“The best Jihad is a perfect Hajj, A perfect pilgrimage”.

Because in going to make pilgrimage, you have to control yourself. People will step on your toes, maybe you’ll lose some of your, provisions. You know you will find difficulty, and people crush together - three million people in one location - you can imagine there will be peoples' tempers, all these things will be there and you’ll be driven to want to argue, to shout or to get upset but you’re told to be calm, to be patient.

The perfect Hajj in which one is able to get through that - those eight days - without flying off the handle, you know arguing with people next to you, shouting at somebody else, but patiently bearing whatever difficulties you find.

So, the Prophet (saw ) says, this was the best Jihad. Hajj was the best Jihad.

This is telling us that the term ‘Jihad’ though today it is associated with picking up a gun and trying to kill somebody, this is not the original meaning of the term.

Now Jihad has a variety of different levels, it may require, you know, that one picks up a gun, to defend one’s life, to defend one’s community where one comes under attack, this is there too. But it starts at the most basic level, in the heart.

On another occasion the Prophet (saw) had said that, “The greater Jihad is the Jihad of the heart, where one struggles against the evil tendencies within the heart. Because God has created us with an awareness of both good and evil, each human being is born with that. And religion is supposed to help the good side, support the good side, help the person to make the right choices.

But still it is the individual who has to make those choices, so when that individual struggles against his or her tendencies, they’re involved in Jihad at the most basic level. And if one cannot engage in that level of Jihad then no, of the other levels, none of the other levels are true Jihad. Because we do this for the sake of God, believing that this is what is pleasing to God, this is what God wants from us, that we be good people, we promote goodness, we live goodness. So on the basic level which is required of us if we cannot do that, then even on the highest levels where we’re fighting, offering our lives up, supposedly to defend the faith, or the believers, or the country of the believers, or whatever level it is, it will be missing that most vital component. And the Prophet (saw) had said that such a person who fights there without that vital component, in fact will not earn the reward, will not be a true martyr, will in fact end up, a loser in the next life. So, Jihad is the struggle against evil on all levels.

Kolanist:
U are attacking christianity but are ignorant or ignore the flaws&wickedness of islam.If u are a muslim explain jihad in the context of this verses. QURAN 2:216-218, QURAN 9:122-123, QURAN 47:4, QURAN 2:190-193 browse this site to know more~ http://www.chick.com/m/reading/tracts/readtract.asp?stk=1058

The main reason why you asked the question is simply because you don't understand the meaning of JIHAD. The media around the world has been given wrong meaning to jihad on their own without knowledge instead of seeking the meaning from the scholars.

The literal meaning of Jihad is struggle or effort, and it doesn't mean holy war .there is nothing holy about war. War is war and it is evil .

Muslims use the word Jihad to describe three different kinds of struggle:

A believer's internal struggle to live out the Muslim faith as well as possible

The struggle to build a good Muslim society

The struggle to defend Islam, with force if necessary


Many modern writers explained that the main meaning of Jihad is the internal spiritual struggle, and this is accepted by many Muslims.

Brief Introduction to "Quran Tafsir" What it is and Why We Need it We start with the word "Quran"

The word "Quran" in Arabic means "Recitation" (not written word). Too many people today are telling us what the Quran of Allah is and what it means.

All too often we are hearing from both Muslims and Non-Muslims; 'The Quran says this-or-that and the Quran means so-and-so' without giving reference to their actual source for meaning and understanding.

Many misconceptions, misquotes, misunderstandings and misrepresentations are tossed around in the media, news and public discussions about Islam and what it teaches.

The solution is to go back to the original source in the original language as understood by the people who first heard the Quran from the lips of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, along with his own definitions and explanations.

The good news is the Quran exists today in its entirety, exactly as it at the time of the prophet, peace be upon him.

The prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, heard the words directly from the Angel Gabriel (Jibril in Arabic) and these words were memorized by Muhammad, peace be upon him, and then recited to his companions, who then memorized and passed on these same words to their followers and this has continued to this very day.

The first word Angel Gabriel spoke to Muhammad, peace be upon him, was "Iqra", which comes from the same root for Quran, and it was a command to "Recite!" (Many people, even Muslims today think this word meant 'read', but it is incorrect because the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was not able to read or write). Immediately we see the importance of going back to the most authentic and original source - the Quran in Arabic - to better understand the meanings.

The Word TAFSIR is an arabic word تفسير which is derived from the root 'fassara' . Someone who writes tafsir is a 'mufassir...". IBN KATHIR - Famous Mufassir (commentator of Quran) مفسر . Well known and respected for his keen memory and a highly regarded scholar of tafsir (commentary) - Born 1302 AD. Memorized entire Quran, word-for-word along and memorized huge number of sayings and teachings (hadeeth) of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, along with sayings and commentary about Quran from Muhammad's companions, may Allah be pleased with them. The Tafsir of Ibn Kathir is of the most respected and accepted explanations for the Quran and is the most widely used explanations in Arabic used today. The difficulty of translating Quran to English is quite another problem and not one to be taken lightly nor is it for the average translators to decide what is meant by the words of Almighty God.

While we agree it is impossible to bring the exact meaning of everything from Quran to English, it is our intention to bring about a better understanding for non-Arab speakers at least a basic understanding of the meaning of the Quran for the English speaking readers.

Brief Introduction to "Quran Tafsir" What it is and Why We Need it We start with the word "Quran"

The word "Quran" in Arabic means "Recitation" (not written word). Too many people today are telling us what the Quran of Allah is and what it means.

All too often we are hearing from both Muslims and Non-Muslims; 'The Quran says this-or-that and the Quran means so-and-so' without giving reference to their actual source for meaning and understanding.

Many misconceptions, misquotes, misunderstandings and misrepresentations are tossed around in the media, news and public discussions about Islam and what it teaches.

The solution is to go back to the original source in the original language as understood by the people who first heard the Quran from the lips of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, along with his own definitions and explanations.

The good news is the Quran exists today in its entirety, exactly as it at the time of the prophet, peace be upon him.

The prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, heard the words directly from the Angel Gabriel (Jibril in Arabic) and these words were memorized by Muhammad, peace be upon him, and then recited to his companions, who then memorized and passed on these same words to their followers and this has continued to this very day.

The first word Angel Gabriel spoke to Muhammad, peace be upon him, was "Iqra", which comes from the same root for Quran, and it was a command to "Recite!" (Many people, even Muslims today think this word meant 'read', but it is incorrect because the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was not able to read or write). Immediately we see the importance of going back to the most authentic and original source - the Quran in Arabic - to better understand the meanings.

The Word TAFSIR is an arabic word تفسير which is derived from the root 'fassara' . Someone who writes tafsir is a 'mufassir...". IBN KATHIR - Famous Mufassir (commentator of Quran) مفسر . Well known and respected for his keen memory and a highly regarded scholar of tafsir (commentary) - Born 1302 AD. Memorized entire Quran, word-for-word along and memorized huge number of sayings and teachings (hadeeth) of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, along with sayings and commentary about Quran from Muhammad's companions, may Allah be pleased with them.
The Tafsir of Ibn Kathir is of the most respected and accepted explanations for the Quran and is the most widely used explanations in Arabic used today. The difficulty of translating Quran to English is quite another problem and not one to be taken lightly nor is it for the average translators to decide what is meant by the words of Almighty God.

While we agree it is impossible to bring the exact meaning of everything from Quran to English, it is our intention to bring about a better understanding for non-Arab speakers at least a basic understanding of the meaning of the Quran for the English speaking readers.


We shall be taken tafsir of some Qur'an verse in my subsequent topic,Insha Allah.

Surah Yunus, Verse 49:


قُل لَّا أَمْلِكُ لِنَفْسِي ضَرًّا وَلَا نَفْعًا إِلَّا مَا شَاءَ اللَّهُ لِكُلِّ أُمَّةٍ أَجَلٌ إِذَا جَاءَ أَجَلُهُمْ فَلَا يَسْتَأْخِرُونَ سَاعَةً وَلَا يَسْتَقْدِمُونَ

Say (O Muhammad SAW): "I have no power over any harm or profit to myself except what Allah may will. For every Ummah (a community or a nation), there is a term appointed; when their term is reached, neither can they delay it nor can they advance it an hour (or a moment)." (Tafsir Al-Qurtubi).

omonnakoda:

Can you please go and look for your kettle
I don't want to know you

I Don't either,if not nairaland .

Our belief in Allah needs to be strong and solid. Right now if I were to ask you "Is there a ground under you?" You would without a doubt say yes. Then if I asked "Is there a sky above you?" You would reply yes again without a doubt. Our belief in Allah should be so strong that if I was to ask "Is Allah watching you right now?" Without a doubt you should say yes. This type of belief doesn't come by sitting at home and doing nothing. We must work for it. Allah the Almighty has said in the Holy Quran: As for those who strive hard ``in Us`` (Our Cause), We will surely, guide them to Our Paths. (Surah Ankabut: 69).


Let me share a story with you. Two friends were travelling together. One was blind and the other could see. Now, when the night fell, they decided to take some rest and continue the journey in the morning. This area was such that in the day time the temperature increases pretty high but in the night the temperature decreases significantly. Much like the areas near the oceans. In the morning, the person who could see left to find some food. The blind man stayed behind and was just touching here and there around him. Now, what had happened at night is that one snake was passing by this place. But due to the extreme coldness, the snake became inactive, frozen, and straight. This blind man's hand fell on this snake and he thought that it's a very nice stick. He picked it up and became very happy. To a blind man, a good stick is a very valuable thing.

Later, the person who could see came back with some food and saw his friend touching a snake. So he shouted and said to throw it away. But the blind man insisted, you want this stick don't you? I am not going to throw it away. After trying hard, he couldn't convince the blind man to throw it away. Anyway, they continued their journey. Then the temperature began to rise and the snake started regaining its energy. When it received enough heat, it flexed its muscles and bit the blind man.

We can compare ourselves to this situation also. We are like this blind man and Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is like the person who could see. Prophet Muhammad (SAW) went to Miraj and saw the horrors of Hell and the blissfulness of Paradise. Now, the Prophet told us about many things to give up and stay away but because we can't see the dangers that's why we don't pay any attention to them. But when the time comes, we will get into serious problems. That is why, we should follow the rules and regulations of Islam.

( Love for Muhammad PBUH is the basic teaching of Islam.)... Islam is not terrorism nor backwordness, but Islam is teachings of peace. "Ashadunna La illaha illallahu Wa Ashadunna Muhammadan Wa Rasuluhu." "I bear witness that there is no god, but Allah, and Muhammad is His Last Messenger."

omonnakoda:

The Quran is not evidence to a person who is not a Muslim. It is just a claim by a man.
I am not interested in talking about Islam ,the Quran or any Islamic ideas here. There is a time and place for everything.
This is not the place to argue about Islamic teaching.
So run along to your 9 year old wife

You lied again, you don't even know me .do you see what aggression is causing you?

omonnakoda:

You Muslims are the lowest of scum programmed to hate Christians so you imagine I must be a Christian

I am not.

Now
Get out of my face
Mind your business this thread is not for you

Calm down , I answered the question,why are angry?

I didn't force anyone to believe me but my aim is to spread the truth.

You said this thread is not for me ,HOW ?
Go to islam forum, non muslim were there arguing about Islamic topic without proper knowledge.
I answered the question with evidence.

omonnakoda:

Is it my mind or your own mind I am using to believe.
Why does your idiotic Allah not make me believe otherwise?
Get out of my face.
When I need information on Allah I will ask you.
Don't you have people to behead today?

Does Your religion teaches you to insult people and their God?
Certainly No ,But you are ignorant Christian who doesn't know anything regarding his religion.

omonnakoda:
We are told that Satan influenced Judas to betray his master so that tells me the crucifixion of Jesus was the work of Satan.
In short Satan killed God?
Is that right?

Hmmmmmm
Satan killed GOD?

How can you think or believed that Satan(devil) killed GOD?

Jesus was not God ,if he was as you claimed,HOW CAN SATAN KILLED HIM?


And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
Surah An-Nisa [4:157] - Al-Qur'an

Originakalokalo:



We have exchanged ideas enough.


Let everyone believes what he believes.

We are done here.

Thanks so much ,I wish you all the best.

Originakalokalo:

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Pray to God in the name of Jesus.

And it Shall be done.


You will even be able to cast out demons , only in the name of Jesus.

In the name of Jesus,


Every knee shall bow

Quote from bible not from your head.

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If GOD SAID:

This is my BELOVED SON.In whom I AM WELL PLEASED. HEAR HIM. As YOU believe
Is hear me the same with hear him ?
Between God and beloved son,who is greater?

Who should we pray in his name and worship ,between God and beloved son ?

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Answer my question,give evidence from your Bible.

honey001:


Please, are u a spirit filled born again Christian?

Only in Nigeria people use question to answer questions.
You haven't answered my question.