₦airaland Forum

Taking out emotions
Safe to say Tinubu is the best person to take over Buhari
He has the Financial capacity
He manages the religious and cultural diversity of Lagos
He has grown Lagos to be the 5th largest economy in Africa
His wife is from delta state
He’s a Muslim

He’s a technocrat
All his boys have performed well
Fowler, Gbaj, Osibanjo

He’s pan Nigerian

His hurdles
Igbo
Even though their number is i consequential in the scheme of things they failed to keep Jonathan failed to stop Buhari so it won’t matter
Historically they have never voted a Yoruba man
Until obj when they had no other option than to vote a Yoruba man


SS
Tinubu can get SS his wife is from delta state and he has lots of friends who are still influential in Niger delta
I for one knows he will win edo state
Middle belt
30% of Middle belt are Yorubas and will naturally support him he can easily sway the rest of Middle belt

North east and west

Like Abiola won both core North Tinubu is coasting home to victory

I wish him all the best as his the best position to lead Nigeria post Buhari

brightokechukwu:
Cause they apologized and made up for their actions, OBJ didn't even commit any war crimes as far as records are concerned(he was definitely not as bloodthirsty as his deranged tribesman Adekunle) , and his subsequent administration was very favorable to Igbos. Gowon apologized after the war and tried his best to reintegrate Igbos back into the fractured concept of Nigerian unity... despite efforts to frustrate it. But karma has a funny way of always coming back to say "Hello remember me?" today his people in the Middle belt will probably be cursing the idea of fighting for the same One Nigeria that has been laying waste to its people and resources - no thanks to the Fulani herdsmen of today.

Console yourself with rubbish

brightokechukwu:
Firstly I hope you're not stupid enough to celebrate or make less gruesome the deserved end of a blood thirsty bastard who masterminded the death of hundreds of innocent civilians (including children)... But then I wouldn't put past subhumans like yourself to do so. Secondly, the dog by name of Ibrahim Taiwo met his death in very gruesome circumstance(even his mentor-in-chief and fellow devil Murtala met a much more tolerable death). And if you must know how Colonel Taiwo AKA the infamous butcher of Asaba was killed, let's just say he was abducted, savagely beaten and then beheaded(looked more like a personal killing by his abductors)... who knows? maybe his killers were led by the vengeful spirits of the innocent souls and lives wasted in Asaba.

It's no mere coincidence both Scums of the lowest dirt(Murtala & Taiwo), were killed in a similar way--wasted like the dogs that they were.

If you want to know where I culled my facts from- then go do some fucking research yourself on the internet.

How come Gowon and obj who killed una are still alive
My dear stop seeing death as imaginary pay back

Any thing to make delusional igbos happy
He was killed in a military coup along side Murutala Mohammed

RTSC:
Go and check the ownership structure of your Banks again.
Edo clown. We dey talk, this clown self dey talk.

Ordinary diamond bank Igbo ran it down due to poor performance
Fidelity no get mouth anywhere

RTSC:
Yoruba leadership?
Ate you talking about the same obasanjo that Yoruba did not vote for.?

You are an illiterate. I am not replying you again.

That Yoruba didn’t vote for him 1999 doesn’t mean he’s not a Yoruba man

Are you saying Ojukwu is not an Igbo man cause Igbo no vote for an

RTSC:
Soludo, Ngozi, Onyuijke okereke, and Chike obi built the economic architecture we have today..

Football, basketball and athletics are dominated by Igbo people.

I don't even need to talk about trade and commerce.

And one clown is saying Igbos need to earn trust.
Trust kee you there.

They all built it under Yoruba leadership
Immediately ngoni went under Jonathan she turned out to be a disaster no savings no investment for Nigeria

RTSC:
I don't know where in the figment of your imagination you pulled this from.

But the one I posted up there are the facts.
If you can't prove them wrong, don't quote me again.

You don’t own the biggest banks , telcos, oil & gas , factories or export so what exactly do you control you think gala and shop is controlling economy lol

RTSC:
Poorest in southern Nigeria?
Edo citizens are wealthier than the citizens in the east?

Guy, shut up.

97% of abuja
90% of Lagos
Largest population
We built Nigeria’s economy
And your region is still the poorest after boko Haram ravaged north east how do you sleep with all this lies

RTSC:
You should have proved Me wrong, you troll.


Looking for attention? When did your open your nairaland account again?

Your mates got attention on the basis of their wits, this clown wants to use Igbo to draw attention.

The same Igbo land that’s the poorest in southern Nigeria dem use lie swear for una

RTSC:
But the Igbo are the majority in every sector of your economy.
Igbos built Nigeria's financial system during the 16 years of the PDP.
Igbos are the majority in your sports and creative industry.
Igbos are the majority in your trade and commerce.

So the boat has sailed. If you were scared of Igbos scattering the country, you shouldn't have let them design the economy in the first place.

You are just a bigot who will never be better than millions of Igbos.

Ipob & lie are 5&6 dem swear for Una with statistics lies

That’s how one said Igbos are the most population

Tbh I’m happy capital was moved to abuja from Lagos

Pls pls Yorubas are not known for this close the thread

pazienza:
What's the point of a skyscraper in a region with not enough electricity to power it's 24-4-7?

What's the point of a TV station where most homes lack electricity, let alone having access to TV?

That's misuse of public funds. Same bane of current Nigeria political office holders. Majoring in minor and minoring in Major just to score cheap ego points . Too bad we lost our brilliant Eastern region, and are today saddled with same wasteful thoughtless leaders as the rest of the country.

Goal post shifting
If you can’t beat them
Minimize their achievements haq haq

LegendHero:
For you to even think Africa is developed enough to build a SkyScraper independently in 1965 speaks a lot about your intelligence. The Cocoa House was constructed by Cappa and D'Alberto company. The construction company have to their credit, buidings like Mobil house, Victoria Island; Diamond Bank, lekki, Lagos; Bella's Place, Victoria Island.

Cocoa House, the 26-storey Cocoa House, Ibadan, is the property of Odu'a Investment Company Limited, Ibadan formerly known as "Ile Awon Agbe"-translates as the "House of Farmers" was commissioned for use in August 1965.

Awolowo proposed free education in 1952 and Launched in 1955
Western Nigerian Government Broadcasting Corporation (WNTV), the First TV was built in 1959
Liberty Stadium opened in 1960
Cocoa House was completed in 1965

What does this tells you about the economy and advancement of the Western region? Do you think having a standard TV, Stadium, Cocoa (Farmer's house) have no effect on the Western region growth?

Wntv is now nta

pazienza:
Paul Abner book is well referenced. If you are looking for raw figures, they go and do so. I will not spoon feed you.

Last time I heard, IMO state have more professors than all Yoruba states individually.
Don't know about University rankings, UNN was bombed to ruins and we had to restart with no special funds for rebuilding.
I also know that Ndiigbo are found in all Universities in Nigeria in West and North.
So rather than look at quality of Universities, I would look at quality of Igbo students spread across all Universities in Nigeria, since we can't influence Nigerian universities funding system.

Going By JAMB recent stats, students of Igbo origins lead in Law and Medicine admissions Al over Nigeria.

But of course, WAEC offer more concrete Data, which is why I refered to it in my example.

Then all the lecturers must be inferior cause western Nigeria university both private and public lead in ng infact the best university in ng is founded by a Yoruba man

pazienza:
So if Yoruba engineers didn't build it.
What's the point bragging about it?

You decided to spend your hard earned money to build an unnecessary white elephant project for ego massage of claiming to have the tallest building in West Africa, even when you had no constant electricity to power it's lift. While Eastern region invested our money on solving practical essential needs like improving electricity generation and supply for industrial and home use.

Why then are you lots going on and on about building cocoa house. It never made sense to me. Which was why I assumed you were claiming to have built it using local Yoruba engineers.

Goal post has been shifted

pazienza:
Your initial supremacy was as a result of proximity to Lagos and first contact with the British.
By 1940s, Ndiigbo had obliterated your lead, and by 1960s, we were firmly in the lead.

Nothing in your comment showed eastern region was more developed or advanced than west so stop running around the same circle

pazienza:
Your initial supremacy was as a result of proximity to Lagos and first contact with the British.
By 1940s, Ndiigbo had obliterated your lead, and by 1960s, we were firmly in the lead.

1960s lead for where lool

LegendHero:
Do you see the emphasis. [b]The West’s secondary modern school system gave it the lead

I know

LegendHero:
Can you read what you posted?

Are you saying in secondary school west maintained the lead chai

pazienza:
Hospital facilities.
Lol! You would rather have us use the ratio of car owners to the general public? Eastern region would have still come out tops.

It shows how sickly you were hospital beds are needed Lool

LegendHero:
Does this guy even know what he is saying for God sake, why will you come online to disgrace yourself bro.

The rift between Awo and Akintola was part of the grand conspiracy of the northerners with the Zik. They tried all they can to break the western region and Awolowo will never bend to their will because he was not a stooge to the north. They had to use Akintola to get back at him which led to the fracas of that time.

When the colonials came, Ibadan was already a city of wonders and it wasn’t built by those you mentioned. Your problem is that while you’re trying to elevate your region you’re missing the actual fact here.

Below shows the New York Times column about Ibadan and you can see what I’m talking about. Can you see clearly that Ibadan was already built with a working structure even when the other part of Nigeria are still akin to mushroom houses.

So back then Igbo depended on Ibadan chai

pazienza:
The author quoted his sources.
Go deal with them.
Sorry for bursting your fragile egos.

If we are using hospital beds and car regristration to measure wealth India is the richest country in the world

LegendHero:
Car registration is the pointer to development based on what measure? How exactly did they come to the conclusion that the eastern region had more cars registered when even Lagos alone as at then dwarf any number that can be conceived in the East?

What is the measure of economy? Can you give me the author of that journal, I’ll like to read the source coz I like giving chance to other people.

We are talking about a western region that was the best economy and had the best GDP through cocoa. We are talking about the western region that had a more coordinated tax system to cater for free education and free healthcare.

In your journal they captured the number of easterners in primary schools, I’ll find the raw statistics of the western region school intake in my archives and upload it on here for you to see that the East is not any way closer to the west in terms of education and enrollment.

We are talking about the western region with the major industries and foreign investments to our area as far back as then. We are talking about the Western region that built commercial centers in Ibadan, cocoa house one of a kind in sub-Saharan Africa, a commonwealth Odua group, First standard stadium, first standard TV station, tarred roads and with a wider tax net and you’re here telling me about development of the East because of number of cars?

Are you sure you’re trying to bring a solid argument or you’re just tryna troll?

You know ehen Igbo runs out of points he will start trolling but we are here for him

pazienza:
The usual beer parlour gist with no statistical back up.

If not for WAEC and JAMB stats, you will still be propagating your beer parlor lies of being the leaders in education in Nigeria, using your Lagos-Ibadan media propaganda machine. Grow up dear. That era of your media monopoly and spread of lies to beef up your poor ego is gone.

My dear New York Times isn’t Lagos Ibadan media
It was facts
Till today igbos still have the poorest region
Newly created south south has surpassed south east

plaindealer:
Regional administration period was when all the regions showed their strength, smartness and capabilities as separate entities and regions, when they separately made their own money, and managed their own affairs.

This period was when the SW excelled and leaped ahead of the other regions across-the-board.

Their was not any tallest building in Nigeria untill the SW built one.

Their wasn't any TV station in Nigeria untill the SW built one.

Their wasn't any modern stadium in Nigeria untill the SW built one.

Nigeria didn't have industrial estates untill the SW built Ikeja, Apapa, Mushin, Ilupeju, Matori and Oluyole industrial estates.

These are either first in Nigeria or first in Africa achievements, achievements that happened strictly under Yoruba administration, policies and leadership, not the FG, not colonial masters.

These achievements are still around and standing tall untill this very second,

Odua group of industries created in the same period is still active today.

The SE made their own money and managed their own affairs in their own region too so, can they highlight one single or similar ground breaking or similar accomplishments?

None, absolutely none.

Fact is, there's no need for competition or di!ck measurements, Yoruba people are smarter, more intelligent, more sophisticated and ground breaking achievers.

Some people just love to beat chest over nothing, they say they are the most industrious, but they don't have industries, they say they are the richest, but they can not survive or get their daily bread unless they leave their states, towns and villages to make ends meet in the SW.

No political, economic or even cultural relevance.

I checked Quora and the Question was which region will be the most succeful should we go our separate ways the overwhelming answer was Yoruba

pazienza:
How do we measure economic development? If not by living standard?

The East had more hospitals

Had better electricity supply
.
Had better Teacher to Student ratio

Had more car registered, which is a pointer to a booming economy, as only the well fed own cars

The East was more than ahead of the West in the 1960s. I don't care if they West were once ahead in the past.
But as of 1960s, contrary to the claim of the OP,
the west was inferior to East in most aspects of human development.

Lmfaooo with evidence of hospital bed my dear
Aboki was ehen ahead of you in the 60s
I know your butt hurt
Despite being in central government
Western Nigeria was and still remains the most prosperous

pazienza:
Did you not see the use of the superlative Most ?

Most hospitals & now equal most prosperity

Damn

West was so rich off cocoa they loaned money to FG
Northern Nigeria was the second richest
Then east was the least richest

So your point hasn’t disproved western ng being the most prosperous

They are the only region in Nigeria
That have land mass seaport population gateway to west Africa so they will naturally be ahead

pazienza:
"[b]Figures for elementary and secondary education indicate that the approximate ratio of teachers to population in 1963 was 1 to every 1,500 in the East, 1 to every 2,500 in th West, and 1 for every 10,000 in the north. Other statistical data reveal how rapidly the standard of living rose among Ibos. The East had the most extensive hospital facilities in the country by 1965, the largest regional production of electricity in the country by 1954, and the greatest number of vehicle registrations by 1963. The economic orientation of the Ibos was also reflected through membership of credit associations:in 1963 the East had 68,220 individual members, the west 5,776, and the north a mere 2,407." ''... His source was the Annual Abstract of Statistics ( Federal Office of Statistics, Lagos, 1965["/b]


You have comprehension issues. Your English teacher owe your parents some refund.

Yes standard of living as risen in China but are the Chinese still as rich as USA or EU hell no !!

That’s all I see here
If eastern region was the richest region all stats will point to east but it doesn’t
Infact northern Nigeria was richer than eastern region

And still your success was still dependent on Lagos as a capital

Damn no be today

pazienza:
FG provided electricity for East, bought cars for Easterners, hence more registered car plate numbers for Easterners, enrolled our children in school more than Yorubas? Built more hospitals for us more than Yorubas? Manufactured teachers for us as well?

Are you alright?

The thread assumes the Western region was better economically speaking than the East in Te 60s, but this is a blatant lie, as the West trailed the East in all aspects of human endeavor in the 1960s.
It's expected since their rival political factions were busy fighting themselves in streets of Lagos and Ibadan and could not master the art of peaceful resolution of conflicts like the East did.

You need peace to build economic prosperity and there was no way in the world the volatile West could have been economically ahead of peaceful East led by juggernauts like Zik, Ita, Mbu, Okpala, Akpabio, Imoke, etc in 1960s.

You lots should stop this empty trumpet blowing already.

Why are you delusional like this ?

The Text you yourself displayed never said eastern region was the most poperous

It only talked about progress made by eastern region which was good but guess what they still didn’t surpass western region

It gave some impressive statistics in teacher to student ratio ( we can factor in population) but it was still not as prosperous as Yoruba land

When you were busy trying to get educated
Yorubas were building the first sky scrapper in Africa
The first television station
Free education
Best Uni in Africa
So your point doesn’t show eastern region was richer than west it only shows how the catch up started which is still in effect today keep on catching up