pazienza:


Paul Abner book is well referenced. If you are looking for raw figures, they go and do so. I will not spoon feed you.

Last time I heard, IMO state have more professors than all Yoruba states individually.
Don't know about University rankings, UNN was bombed to ruins and we had to restart with no special funds for rebuilding.
I also know that Ndiigbo are found in all Universities in Nigeria in West and North.
So rather than look at quality of Universities, I would look at quality of Igbo students spread across all Universities in Nigeria, since we can't influence Nigerian universities funding system.

Going By JAMB recent stats, students of Igbo origins lead in Law and Medicine admissions Al over Nigeria.

But of course, WAEC offer more concrete Data, which is why I refered to it in my example.

pazienza:


So if Yoruba engineers didn't build it.
What's the point bragging about it?

You decided to spend your hard earned money to build an unnecessary white elephant project for ego massage of claiming to have the tallest building in West Africa, even when you had no constant electricity to power it's lift. While Eastern region invested our money on solving practical essential needs like improving electricity generation and supply for industrial and home use.

Why then are you lots going on and on about building cocoa house. It never made sense to me. Which was why I assumed you were claiming to have built it using local Yoruba engineers.

LegendHero:


For you to even think Africa is developed enough to build a SkyScraper independently in 1965 speaks a lot about your intelligence. The Cocoa House was constructed by Cappa and D'Alberto company. The construction company have to their credit, buidings like Mobil house, Victoria Island; Diamond Bank, lekki, Lagos; Bella's Place, Victoria Island.

Cocoa House, the 26-storey Cocoa House, Ibadan, is the property of Odu'a Investment Company Limited, Ibadan formerly known as "Ile Awon Agbe"-translates as the "House of Farmers" was commissioned for use in August 1965.

Awolowo proposed free education in 1952 and Launched in 1955
Western Nigerian Government Broadcasting Corporation (WNTV), the First TV was built in 1959
Liberty Stadium opened in 1960
Cocoa House was completed in 1965

What does this tells you about the economy and advancement of the Western region? Do you think having a standard TV, Stadium, Cocoa (Farmer's house) have no effect on the Western region growth?

LegendHero:


For you to even think Africa is developed enough to build a SkyScraper independently in 1965 speaks a lot about your intelligence. The Cocoa House was constructed by Cappa and D'Alberto company. The construction company have to their credit, buidings like Mobil house, Victoria Island; Diamond Bank, lekki, Lagos; Bella's Place, Victoria Island.

Awolowo proposed free education in 1952 and Launched in 1955
Western Nigerian Government Broadcasting Corporation (WNTV), the First TV was built in 1959
Liberty Stadium opened in 1960
Cocoa House was completed in 1965

What does this tells you about the economy and advancement of the Western region? Do you think having a standard TV, Stadium, Cocoa (Farmer's house) have no effect on the Western region growth?

pazienza:


What's the point of a skyscraper in a region with not enough electricity to power it's 24-4-7?

What's the point of a TV station where most homes lack electricity, let alone having access to TV?

That's misuse of public funds. Same bane of current Nigeria political office holders. Majoring in minor and minoring in Major just to score cheap ego points . Too bad we lost our brilliant Eastern region, and are today saddled with same wasteful thoughtless leaders as the rest of the country.

pazienza:


What's the point of a skyscraper in a region with not enough electricity to power it's 24-4-7?

What's the point of a TV station where most homes lack electricity, let alone having access to TV?

That's misuse of public funds. Same bane of current Nigeria political office holders. Majoring in minor and minoring in Major just to score cheap ego points . Too bad we lost our brilliant Eastern region, and are today saddled with same wasteful thoughtless leaders as the rest of the country.

EeyanMayweather:

Your parents are the slow one. That your IQ is in the single digits was never in contention. Going by your pseudologic, Yoruba hasn't ruled too since OBJ's rule was compensation for Abiola's death. You think everyone is foolish like Osus abi.
Slowpoke that should have been lost as a blighted ovum !!!!

plaindealer:
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This is why I don't go back and forth with Igbos and illiterates with zero sense of history, nit even their own history.

Please, kindly go away.

meccuno:
abusing parents is a trademark of your people so i will let that slide because even Abiola disrespected Awo and a curse was placed on him. Since it's very easy to insult ones parents,I believe it was done to your father and grandfather. I won't be surprised if you kids would say "daddy you have a low I.Q". Please don't be angry because it's a generational curse. Your grandchildren would equally curse your kids too and if you are lucky enough,you would receive the curse and insult. Don't worry that is the tradition in your house hold. Even ogun won't save u .

EeyanMayweather:

Hahahahahahahaha..I don box the lunatic into a corner. See the incoherent and autistic rant sef.
Next time bring your senses when you want to talk politics omo irankiran

meccuno:
you boxed your father to the corner. Not me. I am not your fathers mate.

pazienza:


The usual beer parlour gist with no statistical back up.

If not for WAEC and JAMB stats, you will still be propagating your beer parlor lies of being the leaders in education in Nigeria, using your Lagos-Ibadan media propaganda machine. Grow up dear. That era of your media monopoly and spread of lies to beef up your poor ego is gone.

EeyanMayweather:

Of course you are not his mate. You are not even any human's mate for that matter . You are a lowly scum of earth who isn't different from a Neanderthal

Osaze007:


If we are usi >:ng hospital beds and car regristration to measure wealth India is the richest country in the world

pazienza:


The way Yorubas talk about building the house, I got the impression they are implying Yoruba Engineers built it.

pazienza:


What's the point of a skyscraper in a region with not enough electricity to power it's 24-4-7?

What's the point of a TV station where most homes lack electricity, let alone having access to TV?

That's misuse of public funds. Same bane of current Nigeria political office holders. Majoring in minor and minoring in Major just to score cheap ego points . Too bad we lost our brilliant Eastern region, and are today saddled with same wasteful thoughtless leaders as the rest of the country.

LegendHero:
I stumbled upon the archive of the New York Times in October 18th 1959 on the eve of the election battle preceding the independence. The article clearly shows the genesis of the problem of Nigeria and how the Igbos and North both ganged up against the Yorubas because of their hatred for the success of the Western region.

Excerpts from the paper shows the Western Region is the most developed and richest region in Nigeria pre-1960, and it also capture succinctly what I have been saying that the Yorubas will be far better off with our Oduduwa Republic than remaining in this Nigeria that is pulling us down.

Below are the quotes from the Times newspaper:

The conservative North, 75 percent Muslim and containing about half of Nigeria's population, is governed by the Northern people's congress. The premier is Alhaji Sir Ahmadu Bello, who carries the title of Saraduana of Sokoto.

In the East, where the intelligent, energetic Ibo tribes predominates the controlling party is the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons, headed by one of the most dazzling of Nigerian politicians, Dr. Nnamdi Azikwe, premier of the Eastern region, who is known throughout the country as Zik.

In the somewhat more developed west, which is Yoruba Country, the government is run quite well, it is said by Chief Awolowo, an able politician, and his Action group. The West points with pride to its universal free primary education, free medical treatment for children up to 18years of age, agricultural planning and other social programs of which no other Nigerian region can boast of.

On the Hatred of the Yorubas by Azikwe and Balewa:
The Federal government whose prime minister is Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, a muslim notable from the north, is managed by a coalition of the Northern people congress and National council of the Nigeria and the Cameroonians, two parties that have very little in common except mutual dislike of the third (Awolowo).

Anytime the Igbos accuse Yorubas of being betrayals, you should direct them to this factual statement of their eternal betrayal of the Yorubas by being slaves to the North and being a coward to conspire with the north to hate Awolowo who would have made this Nigeria a great country.

Please Nairalanders, read the rest of the details in the affix pages below.
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Modified: some people are asking me for the source of the news. You need to subscribe to the New York Times website to be able to view the archives, even if you click on the link you won’t be able to view until after you subscribe.

https://www.nytimes.com/1959/10/18/archives/election-battle-warms-in-nigeria-three-parties-seek-control-of.html?searchResultPosition=2

gwafaeziokwu:


He struck a painful chord abi? You guys can't afford self governance even If your life depended on it. Your unity is a mirage. In fact your rallying point is your hatred for the Igbos as a common enemy. Like he rightly pointed out, before the arrival of the brits ,you guys were on the verge of wiping each other to extinction. Colonialist saved the Yoruba race.

Once they were gone after 1960,time for self governance came and the old demon resurfaced again. Akintola and Awolowo could not unite to achieve a common goal. It paved way for the Fulanis through Ahmadu Bello to back and install Akintola as the premier. Was that not the beginning of operation wetie wetie. The west was like an asylum where mad people reign supreme.

The Awolowo boys controlling the Lagos Ibadan news outlet started raising the temperature of the polity with accusations of corruption against the government of Ahmadu Bello, Zik, and to a large extent Akintola. Western Nigerian students embarrassed Ahmadu Bello during his visit to the UK.

Then the young nationalists in the army decided to phase out the old guards and their 'corruption infested' government. When the news of the coup broke out there were wild jubilation in the south West media because they got their heart desires in one fell swoop. Then like joke like play the Igbo coup narrative started creeping into the same western media. It fed the already Igbophobia prevalent in the entire nation. The rest is history.

pazienza:


Your initial supremacy was as a result of proximity to Lagos and first contact with the British.
By 1940s, Ndiigbo had obliterated your lead, and by 1960s, we were firmly in the lead.

EeyanMayweather:

Of course you are not his mate. You are not even any human's mate for that matter . You are a lowly scum of earth who isn't different from a Neanderthal

pazienza:


There is no working together between Ndiigbo and Yorubas.
Not in this universe. Our goals and dreams are divergent.
Failure to recognize that by Ojukwu, contributed to his failure in Biafra.

pazienza:


Your initial supremacy was as a result of proximity to Lagos and first contact with the British.
By 1940s, Ndiigbo had obliterated your lead, and by 1960s, we were firmly in the lead.

plaindealer:



And you are still crying marginalization and lack of relevance in 2019.

Even instead of the rest of the country trooping to your SE villages to enjoy your so called lead and marvels, it it the other way around, you are the one with trooping into other parts of Nigeria, especially the SW for your daily bread.

You people no dey make sense sha..

mrvitalis:
Yoruba's are funny ....after what happened to zik in the western region where he was betrayed

U expected him really to form a government with awolowo ? Funny
Same way u expect Niger delta to support the west in 2023 after what u did in 2015

Same thing awolowo was expecting Igbo support after his role in the civil war ?

U betray someone then turn expect the person to support u ...after they say Igbo's don't build bridges

mercyville:

He is greatly deluded.

plaindealer:



Delusion is one of their major issues.

gwafaeziokwu:

OK oga legendhero. Let me gift you these points.

Azikiwe would have allowed the seccession clause, Aguiyi Ironsi set the tone for abolition of regionalism with his unification decree.

Now answer the following questions

1. Was Awolowo remotely aware of the discussions at Aburi. Did the Aburi accord in anyway tried to amend the undesirable unification decree? Did the Aburi accord in any way meet the heart desires of the average Yoruba man whose interests he sought to protect. If yes did he use it to negotiate with General Gowon.

2. Awolowo according to you was a strong advocate and believer of regionalism. Days before the Biafran declaration Gowon divided Nigeria into 12 states. Western region was divided into 3, Lagos, Western state and Kwara. Was Awolowo comfortable with that move? If not what was his response.

3. Also according to you Awolowo was aversed to a northern coalition. He preferred southerners but Zik would not allow it come to fruition. Fast forward to 1967 eve of the civil war the east had made it clear that the romance with the north was over. That they want to chart their own cause. The north was vulnerable, there was fire in the mountain and the seat of government in Lagos was in disarray. A golden opportunity was presented to Awolowo to take his people out without firing a single shot. With the east and west pulling out the north would have negotiated and ultimately agree on the Aburi agreement. Why did Awolowo fail to grab this opportunity?

4. Presented with, a secession he has mouthed before hand, a regionalism he has professed religiously why did Awolowo embrace state creation and ultimately helped Gowon to finally bury regionalism.

5. Some school of thought believed he was a coward who couldn't put his money where his mouth is. I want to hear you own perspective.

mercyville:


You sound as if you want to cry.
Was the Se eating the electricity because the SW was richer,more developed and had more infrastructures.

The most funny is TVs were operating in the homes of the Swesteners including some Ibos who escaped to the richer SW.

I have never read anywhere that there was no electricity in the SW to run the TVs.

I bet you had more electricity because your leaders thought they might as well give you something. to watch when they did not have the money and clout to meet up with the Yoruba.They eventually gave you enough electricity to watch.....wait for it......BULBS.

mercyville:


lol
Are you talking about the fake WAEC results that were debunked?
Yorubas still remain the most educated.
Do you even remember that Western. Region lent money to you 2 times during regional system of government ?

mrvitalis:

Because south west pushed us ....we would romance north again in 2023 ...and would you blame us ?

Do u really expect an igbo man to support south west ...what's the logic ?

Is it your turn ? ..haven't u ruled before ? Didn't u betray n romance north in 2015 ? Tell me y we shouldn't romance north