gregyboy:


If Benin had meant oyo benin would have ended it because the empire was never strong internally and they remains have the war would have made significant impact in the heart of yorubas

Guy,i Believe You Understand That Nothing Happens On Earth Without A Reason.So The Fact That The Bini Kingdom Never Intended To Subjugate The Oyo Kingdom Is Pure Fallacy.
I Think Both Me And You Have A Work To Do On That.

Alaafin never ruled over Ekiti, Ijebu, Ondo, Ilaje, Ikale, Owo, Akoko, Ijesa, etc. so these people don't revere him in anyway but respect his exploits. However they all recognise and revere the Oon

You Are Trying To Calve Out Something From Nothing.But Before I Proceed,can You Please Give Me 2 General Accepted And Mythical Origins Of Oduduwa.

goalernestman:


I found gregyboy as Edo boy and still said this never happened. I Gus you most be Yoruba.

Like what I said only Yoruba are the ones saying this that never happened

But Going By Your Word,why Was There No War Between The Benin Empire And The Oyo Empire?

gregyboy:


I am from Benin and nothing like that...and you guys shouldn't go and write any article on it in net to bring it alive it is pure lies let it end

I Saw That
Quoted.

goalernestman:


Just tell me more about the Oyo and Benin war please
Ida Benin war was more of not won by the both but Ida and Benin have it in their history but this one you are speaking of I found it that only Yoruba people have it.

I Will Like You To Go To Benin And Ask,you Will Be Well Informed About That.

YourNemesis:

Oduduwa is from Oke Oramfe, a hill in the outskirts of Ife.

Oke Oramfe? I Heared That For The Very First Time From You. Please Substantiate Your Point

Weedfree:


It is good that u agree with me but I never said Benin empire is better I just meant they are both great.

Yea,both Were Great.But There Is A Part In History That Partially Points That The Benin Empire Was Greater In Terms Of Conquest.
And Another Hint Is That The Oyo Empire Bega To Crumble As Early As The 1500.But The Benin Empire Was Resistant Till 1897.

goalernestman:


Please Tell me more about the war.
History list of wars in Benin record by Benin and their opponents:

1The famous Ida war Benin and igala kingdom this war is recorded by Igala and the Benins .

2 Benin invasion 1897. Record in Benin and British history.

3 Benin agbor war recorded by agbor and also in Benin history.

4 Benin ishan war recorded by ishan and Benin too

Only hear Oyo empire and Benin empire war by only Yoruba people. Did you want to still fake a fight that never happened as you fake Oyo empire

I Will Implore You To Go And Study The Benin And The Oyo Empire Very Well.There Were Various Failed Attempts By The Oyo Empire To Subjugate The Benin Empire.History Has It That Both Empires Combated Several Times,but No Empire Was Ever Recorded To Be The Victor Or The Vanquished,so We Believe The Combat Ended In A Draw,which Is Popularly Known As "no Victor,no Vanquished".

To set d record straight ryt from time immemorial ile ife has always been a small town, did ile ife conquer benin to mke oranmiyan king in benin...

You Realy Tried Tried.
But The Thing Is That,from Your Points And Mythical History,i Could Ascertain That You Are In Defense Of The Benin Kingdom,and Your Points Are Picked From The Historical Verse Of The Benin Kingdom.
Now Listen,the Ile Ife Kingdom Or Yorubas Generally Claims That When There Was Problem In The Benin Kingdom,the Benin Chiefs Came To Ile Ife For Aid.Oduduwa Was The King Then,so He Gave Them Oranmiyan His Son,to Go And Rule Over Them,so Peace Could Reign In There Land.
The Question Now Is:
*Why Is It That Ile Ife House The Heads Of The Previous Late Kings In Benin?
*and Why Is It That Before Any King Would Ascend The Throne In Benin Kingdom,he Must First Receive Blessings From The Ile Ife Kingdom?

Note: Am Not In Support Of Any Kingdom.Am Just Trying To Get To The Root Of The Issue.

It Is A No New News That Phyno Is The King Of Rap In The South-Easthen Part Of Nigeria While Olamide Is The King Of Rap In The South-westhern Part Of Nigeria.
Both Artists Have Dropped Good Hits Upon Hits So Far,and Both Are Not Still Relenting.

But Who Do You Think Is Better Between The Two Rappers?
No Tribal Sentiments,nepotism Or Ethnicity Attached.
Phyno Or Olamide?

It Is No More A News That Many People From Various Locations Are Continiously And Energetically Clamouring For The Immediate And Absolute Prohibion Of The "eze Ndi'gbo" Outside Igboland,with The South-westhern Part Of Nigeria Inhabited By The Yorubas Housing The Highest Protestants.
Many Of Those Protesting For The Prohibition Of The "Eze Ndi'gbo" Title Outside Igboland Have Stated Various Reasons For There Clamour,which I Still Believe Are Partially Convincing.
Some Claim That The Title Contradicts The Traditional Laws Of There Land.Some Claims That The Title Is A Chief Cause Of Mayhem In There Land,Due To The Tussle For It By The Igbos.Some Claims That It Decimates The Loyalty And Reverence Of The Igbos Towards There King,which Is Not In There Best Interest.The Reasons Continues Without A Terminal,with Most Emanating From The South-Westhern Part Of Nigeria.

The Question Is:
Should The "eze Ndi'gbo" Title Be Absolutely Prohibited Outside Igboland?

Weedfree:


In my earlier post I said Oyo empire and Benin empire had military strength and I separated the aspect of each kingdom into different categories. Oyo empire made use of Calvary in war but they couldn't use of it in the down south because of the thick vegetation that limited the use of its Calvary.

You Are Right There
But I Still Dont Believe The Benin Empire Is Mightier Than The Oyo Empire In Terms Of Military Strength.Both Kingdoms Waged War Against Each Other Sometimes Around 1400 And 1500,but The Result Was Draw.It Was A Total No Victor,no Vanquish.

Weedfree:


Yes oyo empire was among one of the most power kingdom in west Africa but the strength of ur kingdom is not only base on land but on military might as well which Benin empire had. Oyo empire also had strong military but u can't dispute the strength of Benin empire as well.
Ile ife is the spiritual capital of Yoruba land.

One Thing You Have To Understand Is That Benin Empire Was Great While The Oyo Empire Was Also Outstanding.
So Talking About Military Strength,both Had It To The Fullest,and The Oyo Empire Had An Advantage Over Benin,which Is The Oyo Empire Calvary.

Mind You,i Am Not In Supportive Of Any Kingdom.I Am Neutral In This Trend.
Am From Enugu State.But Am Just Trying To Get To The Root Of The Issue.

One Thing I Know Is That The Apc Caucus Are The Chief Beneficiaries Of The Demise Of Adedibu(the Strong Man Of Molete,ibadan)

If Baba Should Be Around,will An Arrogant And Rude Personality Like Ajumobi Ever Be The Governor Of Oyo State?
Never.

TooNoisy:
The South East keep recycling the same failed Governors who have nothing to offer. They will come out here and complain that Umahi, Ugwuanyi and Ikpeazu are the worst performing Governors in the country, yet these guys win by huge margins.

The Federal Government gets 55% of Nigeria's revenues. 45% goes to States and LGs. Meaning if you elect good Governors, your lot will be better and you wouldn't have to blame Buhari for everything or plan to all travel to Lagos, Abuja and Kano.

In the South West, you can see that Ajimobi was roundly rejected for his Bad Performance Only the South East continue to elect failed Governors but blame others for their woes.

You Should Have Limited Your Criticisms To States That You Know Well.Dav Umahi Of Ebonyi And Ifeanyi Ugwuanyi Of Enugu Are Excellently Performing And Actively Working
If You Have An Iota Of Doubt In You About My Claims,go To Enugu And Ebonyi,and See Things For Your Self.

There Has Been Issues Recently From Different Nooks And Cranies Outside Igboland,with The Yoruba Land Being The Protagonist,based On The Title Of "Eze Ndi'gbo".
We've Heared Different Elites,political Leaders,stakeholders Etc Requesting For The Immediate Prohibition Of The "Eze Ndi'gbo" Title From Different States Accross Nigeria.
Many People Are Requesting For This Based On Different Reasons Which Have Been Highlighted By Them,and Which I Still Think Is Best Known To Them,because The Reasons Were Just Highlighted And Not Clearly And Elaborately Stated.

So The Question Is :
Should The "Eze Ndi'gbo" Title Be Absoluted Prohibited Outside Igbo Land?
If Yes,what Are Your Reasons.
If No,what Are Your Reasons.

UNITED WE STAND
DIVIDED WE FALL.

igbodefender:
No one is asking of the Obatalas of Ile Ife. You cannot understand Ile Ife without understanding the war and peace between Oduduwa and Obatala Oreluere.

Can You Please Shed More Light On This.

Oshin56:
Ooni of Ife is the superior among them because Alaafin migrated from ile-ife, Oranmiyan was a son to oduduwa

But Hope You Know That The Benin Verse Of The Mythical History States That Oduduwa Is From Benin Kingdom.It States That Oduduwa Is A Prince From Benin Know As Ekardarghan.It Was When He Migrated And Settled In Ife That He Termed Himself "Izoduwa" Meaning "I Did Not Lose My Royalty" In Benin Language,which Was Later Changed To Oduduwa By The Yorubas Or Rather Ife Kingdom.

So That Makes The Benin To Claim That They Are Superior To The Yorubas Because Oduduwa Originated From The Royal Family Of Benin.

LuciferAdvocate:
I think between the Oba of Benin and Alaafin of Oyo though. But I will give it to the Oba of Benin. Ooni no reach Alaafin.

But All The Different Verses Of The Mythical History Has The Ife Kingdom As Either The Producer Or The Middleman.

OgboAto:
X

Draw? No One Must Be Superior

goalernestman:



The most stupid tread ever.
Even if am going to side with Yoruba of oduduwa claim of origin.

Oranmiyan is the father of all this kings oranmiyan first son is Oba Eweka of Benin, that should give you who should be the heard.

And also please don't talk about fake Oyo empire


And also Benin have cheifs before Eweka there is no way a kingdom will have chif without king it kings who selete chifs. It for you to know Benin have already have a king before the arrival of Oranmiyan

I Dont Know Your State Of Origin.But Remember That I Said I Have Extensively Studied The History Binding Boths Together From Different Angles And Sources.
So,i Believe You Are Talking From The Version Of The Binin People.

The Yorubas Will Never Agree That Oduduwa Is From Benin.That Is The Main Entangled And Herculean Point.
The Yorubas Believe Oduduwa The Father Of Oranmiyan Is Directly From Heaven Or Mecca.

Weedfree:
If u look at it through different aspect on terms of spiritual power it would be ife kingdom, but through conquering it would be oyo empire but if it is through military might it would be Benin empire. So it depends on what superiority u meant.

But Dont Forget That The Mythical History We Had Is That Oranmiyan(the Founder Of Oyo Empire) Was A Powerful And Well Spiritually Fortified Belligerant.
And Then,the Benin Empire Neva Had The Opportunity To Make Good Use Of Calvary Like Oyo Empire.

Am Not Saying That Alaafin Oyo Is Superior.Just Trying To Appreciate And Constructively Critisize Your Point.

If Its For Biafra Land,i Can Take Any Risk But Failed 9ja,NEVER.

Ike Oha I Know Gburu Gburu I Know
Lord Bless Enugu

I Have Extensively Studied The History Behind The Relationship Between The Benin Empire And The Yoruba Various Kingdoms From Different Sources.
But I Am Yet To Ascertain Who Is Superior Among The Three Most Respected Kingdom In The Present Day Southern Part Of Nigeria History Namely;
*the Oyo Empire Headed By The Alaafin Of Oyo,and Founded By Alaafin Oranmiyan
*the Benin Kingdom Headed By The Oba Of Benin,and Founded By Eweka,a Biological Son To Oranmiyan And
*the Ile Ife Kingdom Headed By The Ooni Of Ife And Having Oduduwa As The Founder.

The Binis Claim They Are Superior In The Sense That Oduduwa Was A Banished Prince From Benin Kingdom While The Ile Ife People Claim That Oduduwa Was Never From Benin.The Alaafin Of Oyo Also Has The Belief That Hes Superior Due To The Historical Connection Of The Prowess Of Oranmiya Among Other Things,In The Whole Yoruba Land.The Benins Even Claim They Are Not Part Of The Yoruba Tribe.

So,lets Clarify Ourselves.
Who Is Superior?
What Is The Connection Among Them?

The Nemesis Of Having An Octagenarian Incapacitated Chap As An Autocrat.

asuustrike1:

Yes. The messages from the pulpit ought to be balanced not restricted to one area. That is why I so much respect many Orthodox and few Pentecostal churches in Nigeria. I advocate for a balanced message

May The Lord Have Mercy

asuustrike1:

Yes it is unfortunately few churches teaches this. Many Christians are engrossed with the teachings of prosperity and break through messages forgetting that we will die some day

I Believe There Are Still Churches That Teaches This Ardently.But We Need To Make This Teaching Pervasive And Effective Globally.

asuustrike1:

Yea that is the significant of ash Wednesday. It is a reminder to all that from dust we were made and to dust we shall return. Jesus made it clear in Mark 8:36 "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul".

This Is Part Of The Vital Teachings That Need To Be Instilled Cogently In The Church.
Dust We Come,dust We Return

lonelydora:
Waiting for E-Money, Hushpuppi, and Mompha to show how rich they are with this Buggati

CHAI
E-MONEY ODOGWU.

The Trueth Is,some People Are Just Above The Law In This Country.
I Laugh Whenever I Hear People Say Buhari Wants To Probe Baba Iyabo(obasanjo).

People Like Tinubu,the Late Adedibu(strong man Of Molete,Ibadan),obasanjo(baba Iyabo) Etc Are Just Above The Law.

We The Bonifide Sons And Daughters Of Ndeaboh Town,aninri Lg,enugu West Senatorial District, Enugu State Are Solidly Behing Governor Ifeanyi Ugwuanyi And Sen Ike Ekweremadu To Continue The Good Work.

ENUGU Is Truely In The Hand Of God

IKEOHA We Know.
GBURUGBURU We Know.