dreyton:
never from the benin empire laye

Funny Nigga

EdmundChidera:
I can't see ikeoha foundation by ike ekweremmadu
This is incomplete without it

Sen Ike Ekweremadu(ikeoha Ndi'gbo) My Man Any Day Any Time.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
Why are Igbo people celebrating this Adeleke Tribunal victory, even more than Osun people themselves??

Because
*The Igbos Are One Of The Pillars Holding Osun.
*every Policy In Osun State Affects Igbo Residents In Osun State Either Positively Or Negatively.
*the Igbos Dominates Many Parts Of Osun States In Terms Of Business And Residency.
*the Igbos Are Known To Be Skilled In Bussiness,so They Need A Tactful Business Man Like Them To Be In Charge Of There Affairs In The State,to Aid In Smooth And Successful Movement Of There Business.

The List Goes On And On
Those Points Exists Where Ever Igbos Are.

AntiWailer:


To a perpetual loser, everything is a win.


Go and check who is still directing the affairs of the state as at this time of jubilation.

PDP feed fat on your chronic ignorance.

There is no victory yet until Supreme Court give their ruling in close to a year time

That Is Why You Will Always Be An Ignorant Illiterate.
The Court Of Appeal Is The Highest Court That Rule Over Gubernatorial Issues.
The Supreme Court Presides Over Presidential Issues.

.Yoruba interests comes first before political party differences.

That Is Why Thd Yoruba Nation Will Always Be The Laziest And Cowardice In Nigeria.
Its Better For A Man To Be Hawking Gala And Fan Yogo,than To Be Begging Due To Laziness.
Just Hilarious Seeing The Lazy Afonja Niggaz Going To Meet The Always Ready To Hustle Igbo Niggaz For Monetary Help.

I Laugh Seeing Aba Being Refered To As A Dumping Ground In The Zoo.Hope You Know That Aba Is The Orchestrator Of Any Locally Made Wears Of There Foreign Counterparts For The Masses.Funny Enough,when Those Dresses Are Made In Aba By Igbos,the Igbos Would Bring It In To The Afonja Nation,and The Afonja Sons And Daughters Would Be The Highest Patronizers Of Such Dresses.

Igbos Are Known To Be Always Ready To Hustle Travellers In The Whole World.Hardly Will You Find A Country In West Afraca Or Europe Or America Without An Igbo Dominated Location.

Right Here In Afonja Nation,ikorodu,mandalas,mechanic Village,computer Village,iwo Road Etc Is Dominated By Igbos.

gregyboy:


Something tell me you're partially biased or your half yoruba even if you're igbo....even if you denial it i fucking dont care.... If i was to be from another i will pick that of the benin in all sense of reasoning it correlate ....i shouldn't just doubt you like that
Now Tell me why dont you believe the benin version of reality of Oduduwa when it affirm all manner of reality

The Reason Is That I Have A Target Which Is To Write Out A Book About The Yoruba And The Benin History.So I Cant Quee With A Version Of The Mythical Histories,leaving Other Versions Untouched.

Am Making An All Round Comparason And Examination Of The Whole Versions.

And There Are Still A Lot Of Questions Arising From The Various Versions Which Are Still Standing Unanswered.

Thanks.

gregyboy:



You're are smart you could deduce yourself ....but don't believe that mecca shit or the sky diving demon

Neither Will I Believe The Ekadarhan Myth Or The Izoduwa Myth.

bixton:


It's purely a contradictory statement.
The law is clearly stated as to how elections are held and what happens in the place of whatever form of irregularities.
Well lets see how the real case at the tribunal is filed and how it all plays out.

I look forward to hearing "those strong holds" Atiku/PDP claims?
This case is a no brainer.

Guy,the Two Alternatives Constitutionaly Available To Them Is What They Are Try To Utilise.
Its Either The Election Is Canceled Or The Complainant Is Declared The Winner.

Infact,those Two Options Are The Most Naturally,not Only Constitution Viable Or Feasible Option.

Thanks.

It Looks Impossible To Upturn The Result And Declaration To Many Due To Two Important Facts Which Are :

*such Is An Unprecedented Event In The History Of Nigeria History.
*the Sacking Of The Former Cjn And The Appointment Of The New Cjn.

But I Still Believe Nothing Is Impossible With God.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE

CHANGE IS THE ONLY CONSTANT THING IN THE WORLD.
THIS COULD TRIGGER AND SPEARHEAD AN UNPRECEDENTED CHANGE IN NIGERIA POLITICS.

OlujobaSamuel:
Hmmmmmmm, I don't understand, the two prayers appear to be conflicting to me.
Declare Atiku winner
Set the election aside
If the election is set aside, then Atiku Can't be declared as the winner, maybe someone can explain better or the report is poorly written.

No,the Report Wasn't Poorly Written,neither Was It Contradicting.
Enoidem Said They Want There Candidate In The Person Of Alhaji Atiku Abubarka To Be Declared The Winner Of The Election.

He Then Said "in The Alternative,the Election Should Be Set Aside Based On Irregularities..."

NOTE : "IN THE ALTERNATIVE"

So Those Two Were Just Alternatives.That Is They Want The Tribunal To Declare Atiku Winner Or Cancel The Election.

Thanks.

goalernestman:


Who Aver to fact what fact if really this is true why not bring the European source of Oyo empire, even the Ghana they claim they extend to have noting like Oyo in their history, even the Benin empire who is more far from them than Oyo is in their history map and Oyo is not

Every Tribe Is Trying Hard To Protect There Dignity And Respect With Cooked Up History.
Thanks.

davidnazee:


Afonja is just one man that betrayed his ruler, he is not Oyo empire. I said give me detailed accounts of Oyo Empire’s wars and sovereignty over other lands.
I can give u details and links of Benin kingdom’s military campaigns of expansion and sovereignty over Yoruba lands and beyond and even accounts of how many times Benin has to quell uprising and revolts by its vassal states and executed ur rulers for revolting against Benin administrations.
Benin colonized parts of Yoruba lands.

Fallacy
Unproveable History

BabaAroba:
Try to follow my facebook and Instagram you'll know much about this and you can ask me any question there

Give Me Your Facebuk Name Or Add Me Up @oshi Abuchi Emmanuel

Thanks

davidnazee:


Afonja is just one man that betrayed his ruler, he is not Oyo empire. I said give me detailed accounts of Oyo Empire’s wars and sovereignty over other lands.
I can give u details and links of Benin kingdom’s military campaigns of expansion and sovereignty over Yoruba lands and beyond and even accounts of how many times Benin has to quell uprising and revolts by its vassal states and executed ur rulers for revolting against Benin administrations.
Benin colonized parts of Yoruba lands.

Nigga,am Not A Yoruba Man
Am From Enugu State
Am The Op Of This Thread
Am Just Trying To Gather Trueth To Help In My Literary Work.
Thanks

But I Still Dont Agree With You Based On Past And Present Account Of Great Historians.

gregyboy:



You need no visit to benin before you could tell who was superior if you tell me youre going to oba palace for tourism i will hear not for an argument you know the answer already to ...you should be comparing the benin empire with sokoto not oyo an alien can already tell who was superior with the comment

Thats Ur Opinion Though
But Mind U,i Would Not Be Visiiting To Know Who Is Superior Or Inferior.
I Would Be Visiting To Catch The History And Power Of The Benin Kingdom From The Mouths Of The Oba And His Prime Minister.

Same Goes To Ife Kingdom,ilesha Kingdom,ibadan Kingdom And The Oyo Kingdom.

I Am Preparing To Write A Book Based On The Yoruba And The Benin History.
Thanks

goalernestman:


Who Aver to fact what fact if really this is true why not bring the European source of Oyo empire, even the Ghana they claim they extend to have noting like Oyo in their history, even the Benin empire who is more far from them than Oyo is in their history map and Oyo is not

Go And Do More Studying.
Thanks.

gregyboy:


Not me tge yorubas are distorting history because we are small

Well,i Appreciate Ur Contributions.Am Just On A Thorough And Extensive Study Of The Three Kingdoms.I Will Be In Benin Palace Very Soon To Interview The Oba Of Benin And His Prime Minister.
Thanks Again.
Am From Enugu State.

gregyboy:


Now you're talking the empire was never use to war in an attempt by the oyo to strength is power within the confedral state that's when the kiriji war broke out....

Oyo empire in anyway shouldn't be used to compare the benin empire it just sad the benins is just a city against the yoruba 5 state it is a pity our voice cant go louder even when we try to tell the real story

You Are Making Your Auguement To Be Tribalistically Based.
Thanks.

King Solomon Reigned After King David In Israel For 40years.He Was 20years When He Began To Reign,which Implicitly Means He Died At The Age Of 60years.
King David Started Well.He Built The Temple And Follow The Dictates Of The Law Thoroughly,just Like His Father David.
God Appeared To Him In A Dream,And Asked Him To Request For Anything,and David Requested For Wisdom.God Gave Him Wisdom,and Promised Him Long Live,peace Etc In As Much He Obeys His Commands Fully.
Solomon Enjoyed Peace,respect From All And Sundry Etc In Accordance With The Promise Of God.
But Two Things Destroyed His Reputation Before God Which Made Me Termed Him The Wisest-fool,they Are:
1)he Divided Israel To 12 Tribes,and Commanded Each Tribe To Be Bringing Huge Tributes To Him Every Year,which Was Inconveniencing His Subjects.
2)he Gave Himself To Pleasure By Having 300 Wives And 700 Concubines.

The Two Acts That Killed Him Early Could Be Summarised To Be Selfishness And Pleasure.


Learn From Solomon The Wisest-fool.

Weedfree:


Oyo empire couldn't conquer ife because it is forbidden and llesha is another powerful kingdom in its own right but it is said oyo empire is said to have united all of Yoruba land under one rule.

The Claim Of Unification Of The Whole Of Yoruba Land By The Oyo Empire Under One Rule Is A Kind Of Confederational System Of Government.The Ife,ilesha Etc Kingdom Were Unified With The Oyo Empire,but The Greatest Power Reside With Component States And Not The Central.

Other Parts Of Yoruba Land That Were Conquestly Subjugated Under The Oyo Empire Were Full Proof Subjects Of The Oyo Empire,under The Unitary System Of Government Of The Oyo Empire.

Confederation And Unitarisation Are Different System Of Govts
Thanks.

Weedfree:


u mean the same Oyo empire that said conquered Ogun, ekiti, Lagos and ondo state just so u know.

The Fact That The Empire Claims That It Conquered Ogun,ekiti,lagos And Ondo States Is Not An Indication That It Conquered The Whole Of Yoruba Land..
It Never Claims It Conquered Ilesha,ife Etc

Dartilo:



Tribal mark system started in benin to prevent anyone to be sold into slavery, around the 14th century a dutch merchant attempted to shoot the oba because the oba was hiding it's slave that escape, rumour had it that the oba invaded the merchant and free the slave because the merchant was accused of kidnapping an indigene and he was frustrated...
Note this indigene was a commoner but the oba intervene because the benins saw themselves as superior being not to talk of been sold out

This Is Laughable,complicated But Interesting.
The Fact Remains That Nigerians Were Sold Into Slavery In All Parts Of Nigeria Land.
So I Dont Know Where You've Being Getting Your Own Facts From.

davidnazee:


Please can you give me a detailed account of Oyo Empire’s military campaign/war. If Oyo Empire is real then there should be accounts or stories of wars it fought.. give a detailed account like how the war started, how it unfolded how it was won or lost.. I want full story not just headline. All great empires that existed have stories of wars and military campaigns and expansions they carried out. Oyo should not be different.

I Believe One Thing Will Help You
And The Thing Is The Story Of Afonja.Who He Was And How He Gained Independence For Ilorin Through The Help Of Sheu Alimi From The Oyo Empire.

goalernestman:


Oyo empire is faked as super man

That Is From Your Own Perception.
Thats Not The General Belief.
Great Historians Have Always Augue For And Against That Motion.
So Note That,the Ideology Of One Person,speak For The Belief Of The Multitude.
Even Jesus Was Opposed,degraded And Disparaged By Many People,even In His Home Town.
So,believe In What You Believe,but Aim To Help Your Belief The More By Getting Knowledge Through Meditation And Comparason Of Various Ideas.
Thanks.

goalernestman:


Bring the Oyo empire in the Africa map let we all see

If You Insist On The Fact That Oyo Empire Never Existed,why Then Did Both Old And New Historians,both African And European Historians Aver To The Fact That Oyo Empire Existed.

davidnazee:


A major characteristic of an empire is its expansion and campaigns to foreign lands and its conquests and sovereignty over the people. For example Benin empire spread over Yoruba to the west, Igbos to the east and also to the north.
Oyo never achieved any of these, Oyo is only known for ruling over its fellow Yoruba brothers. It never spread beyond Yoruba.

There is only 2 empires in the world that ever had GREAT added to its name; Great Britain and Great Benin.

But Let Me Quickly Ask U This Question,what Is The Role Of Language In Confirming The Existence Of An Empire Or Emirate?.

davidnazee:


Please can you give me a detailed account of Oyo Empire’s military campaign/war. If Oyo Empire is real then there should be accounts or stories of wars it fought.. give a detailed account like how the war started, how it unfolded how it was won or lost.. I want full story not just headline. All great empires that existed have stories of wars and military campaigns and expansions they carried out. Oyo should not be different.

I Have No Time For That
But The Fact Remains That Benin Empire,ile Ife Kingdom And Oyo Empire Existed.
Note That
Thanks.

gregyboy:


The world history is complicated ....because of people who tries to alter it

But Africans Sits At The Front Roll Of Possessors Of Complicated History.

goalernestman:


I think saying Yoruba was a slave is not ok and also we all knows Yoruba and igbo are majority today. but this is not a reason to fake a history to better the majority now. In history Igala was more great than igbos but because igbo is the majority now they like write lies how they were more great. I found this not fair

History Is Great
While African History Is Complicated.

If I were you, I will stop talking about the past, I rather focus on how to gain relevance now and in the future. How to catch up with the tribe whose gods you worship, language you speak, and names you bear today. [/quote]

This Is An Incontrovertible Fact.4get The Past.Focus On Now And The Future.

But We Are Trying To Get The Trueth About Our Past History.
Thanks.

no benin man was sold into slavery that is a good achievement [/quote]
I Have To Make Extensive Research On This

Weedfree:



Well if u check the history of zulu empire with shakazulu , Akum empire now called Ethiopian empire and lunda and luba kingdom do have a connection to each other. Both when I look at West Africa kingdoms oyo empire would say the conquered all of southern Nigeria but they didn't conquer ijesha, Benin empire and ijebu. And it goes on like that for other kingdoms in west Africa.

Oyo Empire Neva Claimed That It Conquered The Whole Of Southern Nigeria,not Even The Whole Of Yoruba Nation.
Note That
Thanks.