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[s][/s]This is a thread for you guys that are new in the satellite world, come here with your questions and I can assure you they all will be attended to. With the help of fellow learned guys in this area we all will make you feel welcome.

Welcome one, Welcome all.

Questions Please and Lets start it rolling[s][/s]
Hello

I won't respond to your nonsense abusive junkie evidence that dated not as far as the ones the civilised Igodomigodo wrote as way back, you can now go ahead and make yourself look like one with sense even when everyone knows you're a diehard hater of the Benin heritage, but hold on, before you go about with your defeated arguments of "this one said he won't come back again"

Your plan is to drop the last punch and expects me not to write so whenever new reader sees it, then it would make you look like a winner, or one with a much proof of what people should believe, infact I lost interest in your argument the very day you said the history my people wrote is void and null because a brown skin people wrote it

This is here already, you can now go ahead and make your last abusive junkie proofs of written notes/history by your light yellow gods you call whites, whom you believe their writings than anything your fellow brownish skin can ever write, no wonder the Yoruba had no single written history, oh! I forgot, they were primitive people with no sense of education.

Don't bother to hear from me on this case again, take the floor you hateful retard!

Bye!



[s][/s][quote author=TAO11 post=110401810]
Oh shut your gutter ret@rd, and get some education.

The reference/screenshot provided already lists all the Edo groups who confessed to have been invaded and decimated by the Yorubas.

All you have to do is be bold enough to follow-up the reference and screenshots without having to shed too much tears.

And it is sensible to believe what people admit about their own humiliations, failures, embarrassments, etc. especially when such confessions has a multiplicity of attestation from those same people.

But not sensible to accept claims of conquering other people without any corroborating evidence from those other people.

But for some reasons, you Binis’ brains seem to have been turned upside-down, hence your insistence on reasoning upside-down.

Cc: SirNewtonNG[s][/s]

You always just talk with your ass and not Brain, provide the Benin people that said so.... So, you now believe what Benin say because you think they talk to your favour? Abeg shift!

TAO11:
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Use your “gregyboy” account, lol. Stop hiding.
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The account of invasion, enslavement, destruction of Benin kingdom by Ibadan, Ilorin, Ileṣa (independently) are confessions made by the Edos themselves.

I’d like to assume that the Edos are not bastards, they
would not have lied against their own selves.

Or are Edos bastards? Just wondering.

Cheers

Cc: SirNewtonNG

You would paint people black and claim your Yoruba kingdom that has no heritage conquered mighty kingdom like the Bini Kingdom when your Yoruba kingdom is scattered all around with no unity as your Ife could not unite the entirety of the Yoruba clan, can't blame you especially when your Oyo kingship claims the Ijebus are from Sudan and not same as you all. . more revelation would surface soon for divided people like you.

Meanwhile, it was never recorded that the almighty Bini Kingdom ever had war with the Yoruba as a people, how then would your weak Yoruba nation had even conquered a nation they never warred against?

Abeg, go and learn more lies and more degrading words to keep your counterparts abait as this one did not work...

Mtchew

TAO11:
LMAO!

Now that I’ve exposed you as a cunning and deluded pathologic liar that you are, you’ve suddenly resorted to bitter rants, insults, and more lies.

Very typical of delusional Bini e-rats like yourself.

Anyway, your resort to your hot tears, as well as your vow to never come back is a crystal clear evidence of your realization that you’ve been exposed before all & sundry, and that your time is up.

And your further lies have already been debunked on this very thread, namely:

(1) How some recent audio-claims of Edo rulership of some Yorùbá towns in the Ondo, the Ekiti, & the Lagos areas have been debunked as uncorroborated and/or as late revisions.

(2) How the claim of Benin being an “empire” is shown to be an audio-claim that is not corroborated by any firsthand eyewitness report. None!

The only “empire” in the southern-Nigeria region (per firsthand eyewitness report) is Ọyọ.

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And the indigenous Bini people have been conquered and subjugated by Ifẹ since the Ogiso era (from circa: 1000 CE) through the Ọba era (from circa: 1200 CE) till the present time, and forever by God’s grace, Amen!

Cheers.

Cc: SirNewtonNG

I haven't had time to deal with your foolish unwise self until now, guess what? I won't further waste my time with someone who lacks wisdom, and someone that gathers knowledge from what earliest people wrote about just to argue with the custodians of their history. Girl, just don't feel too sad for the conquest and victories the Benin kingdom had all along so you don't die of hypertension too soon, you're still young. I would have asked you for further questions but I know you would lack wisdom to respond amicably....
I hope you will quote your hypeman soon so he can substitute you once you're out of content.

TAO11:

You can deny your own self all you want. In fact, that’s exactly what you must do. Lol. It’s a sign of conquest.


What nonsense is this one typing?? Lol.

No one is asking your Ọba to argue, dummy. All your Ọba had to do was to simply tell us his “truth”.

He may then later eat back some of his words (like he did at his own party), but they would have been out.

Your Ọba came to Ife and could not dare repeat what he supposedly thinks is true. He cowered. Lol.

Historians have said the Kaladerhan tale is fraudulen, your Ọba too apparently knows it’s fraudulent.

Lol. No. I actually know that the Ooni didn’t need your king’s permission before your king knows to call at the Orun-Ọba-Ado burial site.

Even if the Ooni had truly randomly brought that up in the middle of their conversation that day, your kin still didn’t have to go; but he did as the TV news report have stated in clear terms.

Moreover, the issue is not even about who brought it up, when it was brought up, why did he agree, etc. N that’s not the issue. The actual issue is about what he actually agreed to go there to do. The TV news report state in clear terms that he (your king) went there to pay homage to Benin kings buried there.

And that’s not the only site your king visited. He also was at the Oranmiyan grove. We know exactly what was done to him there. It’s an open secret.


You’re used to being cunning, obviously because you are surrounded in Benin by insanely moronic dullards who are very easy to trick. You’re about to learn a big lesson. Fasten your seat belt.

Now, you’re claiming here that your say it to his face comment was a reply to my dared not mention it comment. Lol.

Whereas, the actual reality is the reverse of what you are fraudulently claiming here:

(1) You wrote at 3:57pm On Feb 03 that “it was said to your Ooni's face”

(2) I replied at 4:06pm On Feb 03 that your Ọba “dared not mention the Ekaladerhan fraud” at the Ooni’s palace.

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In other words, you didn’t reply with say it to his face to my dared not mention it comment.

Rather, it was I who replied with my dared not mention it comment to your say it to his face comment.

You have just been exposed again for the umpteenth time as a delusional fraudulent nincompoop.

Having now exposed you, it becomes clear that your reason for writing your say it to his face comment is to give the usual dumb Bini insinuation that your Ọba is FeArLeSs, etc.

However, such dumb insinuation is rightly debunked when I pointed out his caveat where he noted that his own statement is not necessarily true for others.

He knows his boundary, hence he debunked the very insinuation which you (among other slave-subjects of his) wish to push out. He ate by part of his words.

Wrong!

You’re giving an excuse/pleading that the reason why your Ọba didn’t talk about Ekaladerhan is because his visit has nothing to do with that.

This excuse/pleading doesn’t fly because while he was giving his submission, he brought up the Ife & Benin connection. You get the gist?

However, he literally cut out the fraudulent part about Ekaladerhan. Why couldn’t he say his truth? Your Ọba is neither FeArLeSs nor BrAve after-all — contrary to what you (and his other slave-subjects) love to think.

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Yes, the purpose of your Ọba’s visit was more than appreciation.

You heard clearly in that Channels TV report that your Ọba “paid homage” at Ọrun-Ọba-Ado at Ife.

Your Ọba din’t pay any such homage when he visited Warri, Sokoto, etc. Or did he? Now that is the key difference between his Ife visit and his other visits.

A young girl who brought down decades of Benin lies?? Yup!


You should take your own advice. It is you who need such advice since you’re clearly having sleepless night.

Cheers.

I keep seeing Imperial Majesty everywhere and I am wondering if this is a lack of understanding or what... Was Ife ever an empire for that Imperial majestic title is meant for an Emperor who has/had an empire ...

Una to de like make Una sef relevant, your Yoruba leaders mainly fought battle against themselves and not against outsiders compared to the Benin Kingdom, secondly, lot of things the Benin Kingdom possess are way higher than what your kingdom can ever attained, make Una forget population of your people....

You call yourself one and yet you dare not tell an Oyo man that he's an Ibadan man, he would fight you to a standstill, or tell an Ijebu Imushin man that he's Ijebu Igbo and he would fight you till death talkless of telling him he's an Abeokuta man lol. Yoruba Nation my foot...

You guys could not and still can't stick together as you can't handle your home, yet, you want to add Kingdom full of honour to your list of collections, awa!

What is this one talking about? Who is Ugbe?

Did the Oba of Benin make a visit to Ile Ife to argue on genealogy? Make Una de type with sense small small?

I do hope you know Ooni requested that they visited the Orun Oba Ado not at the request of the Oba of Benin... Political moves lol ..

A typical you, always changing people's words to suite your brainless ego.. I wrote two different comments on two different responses you gave, and you connoted all to one? Wisdom indeed is a scarce commodity..
My first response saying "The Benin Oba said it to his face" is concerning the nonsense you said about the Oba not able to talk about your so call Ekaladerhan fraud story and I shared a video to buttress that point and you later went further to say the Oba ate his word and the video showed clearly where the Oba's word was definite.

Secondly, you talked about the Oba's visit to Ife and how he could not talk about the Ekaladerhan fraud and I told you how can he possibly talk about that when His purpose of visit was to appreciate the Ooni for gracing his coronation just as the Oba did in Sokoto, Warri, etc and you said why didn't he talk about it... Please, I am absolutely sure I am having a discourse with a pretty young girl who thinks she has read so much and could just vomit some nonsense in exchange for wisdom.

Go back to bed, maybe your brain might generate little wisdom to survive the day without saying much trash as other days.

TAO11:

Why did you stop using your UGBE account lately? I noticed you stopped. What happed to you??

(1) Anyway, thanks for the video — I have replied you in my foregoing comment wherein I also embedded a video of your Oba at the Ife palace showing how your Oba gave up the Ekaladerhan fraud.

(2) Moreover, during that same visit of your Oba to hi ancestral source, i.e. Ife, your Oba completed his rite of passage to kingship — one of which involves that he pays homage at the Orun-Oba-Ado (i.e. Heaven of Benin Kings) burial site, among others.

The following is a Channels TV report relevant to this statement. Time-stamp 0:22 to 0:28.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZhU2AmpvJk

We know your Oba paid courtesy visit to other kings in the country too — such as: the Sultan of Sokoto.

But did your Oba pay homage to previous Benin king burial site in Sokoto and elsewhere? Of course not.

There are no such burial site of Benin kings there. It’s present only in Ife, and your Oba duly paid homage to where homage is due. Now that’s the key difference his Ife visit and his other visits. Capeesh?

Channels TV is not wicked, demonic, & evil, because I know for sure that’s the next thing go to on your min courtesy of your Bini paranoid personality disorder.

Channels is an Edo-owned organization if that helps to deal with your paranoia delusions.

(3) Thank God Benin was accessible to the Portuguese in the 1400s. Otherwise, we may not have known that Benin kings are subordinate & inferior to an overlord outside Benin whose ‘name’ is spelt in the Portuguese writings as “Hooguanee”, “Ogane”, and whom scholars have found to be non other than the Ọɣọnẹ of Ifẹ.

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Benin know your small place.

Cheers

Cc: SirNewtonNG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUmrS2lrjPc

Sometimes I wonder if your brain can not comprehend truth or you're just dumb to be corrected.

In the Oba's coronation, you're expecting him to over push on a topic that is highly controversial so that his coronation can have a bad ending? Make Una de get sense small small. The Benin King is too mature to start ranting as a kid. He knew your people can be highly noisy and it is the obvious truth, it is not in our place to force truth through blind minds that does not want to accept the truth

Secondly, he visited your Ooni, your Ooni's home and you expect him to cause an argument there? Please, is it that you're just too stupid to notice wisdom when you see one? He cut out of it, what message does it send to you?

You saw the two culture, do they have anything in common? Please spare me your foolishness this early morning laho..

TAO11:

Thanks subject for fetching me this video which I had talked about earlier.

Your Ọba mentioned the Ekeladerhan fraud at his ow coronation party. Why exactly would you assume that the Ooni would request (or even be given) a platform to debunk whatever your Oba just said at his party?

Anyway, my earlier point is that your Oba knows that whatever he is saying at that party is NOT meant to be completely true and binding for his Yorùbá overlords.

As I noted earlier, your Oba ate it back by immediatel noting that if he (your Oba) insist that the Ekaladerha fraud is an absolute truth, then that would mean that he (your Oba) is already passing his boundary.

Your Oba’s precise words (from time-stamp 0:53) goe thus: “But it is not our place to force this recognition to other outside our boundaries”.

In other words, your Oba knows that this fraud is not defensible—especially since it has been dragged in th mud by submission of historical scholarship. Your Oba ate his words up at his own party right there.

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Regarding your Oba’s homage visit to the palace of Hi Imperial Majesty — the Ọɣọni of Ifẹ, Ọba Adeyeye:

Your Ọba was given an opportunity to say something about the connection between father-Ifẹ & son-Beni, many gullible Binis present would have expected him to repeat the Ekaladerhan fraud.

Of course he (your Oba) knew better. He knew never to make such costly mistake. He gave his submission and literally “cut out” and swallowed the aspect of the Ekaladerhan fraud. He knew not to peddle a lie at his overlord’s palace. He (your Oba) dared not.

Watch the video below for yourself — particularly fro time-stamp 13:00 to 13:50 and notice how your Oba skillfully cut out the Ekalderhan part. He would have received the curses of his life if he didn’t cut it out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvXupQwaz0

Summary:
(1) Your Oba mentioned the Ekaladerhan fraud at his own party—and he immediately ate it back right then and there. Thanks for providing the video for this.

(2) Your Oba mentioned the Ife & Benin connection at his master’s Ife palace— and your Oba dared not bring up the Ekeladerhan fraud. He literally cut it out.

Cheers.

Cc: SirNewtonNG

Eeya, cry me an ocean my dear..
Who would hold the right information if not the Oba of a kingdom, Oba is talking your bobrisky ass is responding as usual, a bitch.

Your foolishness is really increasing in capacity, the same video you want Tao to help you post, I can explain it very well to you, did your unknowledgeable mind also know that The Benin King also visited Sultan of Sokoto to appreciate his presence at his Coronation as well? Sorry, your brain would tell you abi the Oba of Benin is also related to The Sultan of Sokoto...

The Oba of Benin is too mature to start talking as your Ooni was doing during the Oba of Benin visit, saying he's giving him a gift of the picture of Oranmiyan lol... if you watch the video quite well, I hope you would see a slight smile on the Oba of Benin's face? Lol ... He knew The Ooni was trying to play a fast one, and did you hear the anxiety in his voice when he was saying those things? Lol...

My dear, Una no near.... The Portuguese came and were surprised at a well structured society in such a location they've written off but couldn't say a dime about the Yoruba kingdom..

I have my reservation for dull brained people like you though... For now, you can continue crying me ocean

SirNewtonNG:


Does stupidity dwell in the dna of bini people like you in beginning to think so. It's like Oranmiyan's conquest did a number on you lots brain. What does this video have to do with what TAO11 was talking about.
you don't even know what he was talking about. You lot just rant about to project superiority and make your primitive brain feel good.

Your Oba(btw our illustrious son from ife who has ruled bini promitivs for 1000 years) saying something to massage your pride doesn't mean it's true. Historians do analysis of historical records and have found out from the bini themselves what the truth is. The oba himself knows what he is doing when he made oranmiyan the firts oba, he is reasserting the authority of ife over benin, the caveat of ekaladerhan is a known historical distortion emanating from 1968 and popularized by oba erediauwa 1978 story book of fables which has several contradictions btw, TAO11 has consistently debunked this. I just felt like adding this even though the video had nothing to do with the visitation of your oba to his ancestral home in ife, where on channels a bini owned station (thank God bini has at least brilliant minds maybe he is a descendant of a conqueror from ife ) he was described as paying homage to his ancestors burial ground, the video TAO11 was talking about is related to when the oba was in the palace of his father, his imperial majesty the OONI.

Stay in your place man!

Let me help you fuel your hot tears right now.... I think you saw your mummy has refused to post the video of her lies since you asked.... This will eventually bring all your mummy's lies to the public... DIRECT SPEECH from the Benin Oba....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFuOlZSfM4

SirNewtonNG:


Aunty TAO11 E jo e put link video yen si bi
Let people see when their king reverted. This bini people deny things and twist it. Put it here thank ma. Continue the beating. I'm loving it

Abi, let her post it here shebi...

SirNewtonNG:


Aunty TAO11 E jo e put link video yen si bi
Let people see when their king reverted. This bini people deny things and twist it. Put it here thank ma. Continue the beating. I'm loving it

Read and check out the response by the Benin spokepersons.. Una like power wey Una no deserve sha...

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/198255-benin-kingdom-edo-yoruba-territory-ooni-ife-adeyeye-ogunwusi.html

Christistruth00:



Tao11

It is a knockout !!!!


But they love fake over Posing in Benin

Which one is the body guard again ?

Even his Papa didn’t carry any bodyguard

Is it for Safety or is it for Show

Prince Charles Self never Carry bodyguard enter Seating arrangement

If not for Colonisation and enlightenment

They would probably have said Oba of Benin’s leg must never touch the ground

and Proceeded to Carry him from Benin to Abuja on their heads


Even the Queen of England doesn’t Pose this Grand

he ate his word abi wetin this one de talk? So you mean he would stupidly go to your Ooni's home and argue? Oh! I forgot wisdom is scarce in your words...

TAO11:

No, your Ọba immediately clarified by admitting that he (as a Bini king) dare not insist to his Yorùbá lords [i.e. Ooni, et al.] that what he (the Bini king) is saying is necessarily true.

In other words, your Oba ate his words right there & then that I’m only repeating my dad’s 1970s revision which I know is obviously a falsehood.

In any case, it was your Ọba’s coronation party and a such attendants must allow him have his time to mak his submission.

If you really thought the Ooni would jump on stage & drag the microphone from his son even after the son had eaten his own words; then you have to think one more time. Plus the Ooni didn’t come with his mic. Or Or did he? This is the dumbest thing I’ve heard.

Guess what!? It got worse when your Ọba came to Ife. He dared not mention the Ekaladerhan fraud in that palace — his need to eat his own words didn’t even arise this time around as he he couldn’t even dare utter the Ekaladerhan fraud it out of his mouth.

Kisses

Go and watch the coronation of the present Oba of Benin, you will see it for yourself how it was said to your Ooni's face that your Oduduwa is our son lol, you're here forming keyboard champion

TAO11:
No you’re the delusional one who keeps vowing never to come back but keeps come back for more just like a b!tch.

Beating after beating. Flogging after flogging.

Lol, go and work on your grammar before reverting.

TAO11:
No you’re the delusional one who keeps vowing never to come back but keeps come back for more just like a b!tch.

Beating after beating. Flogging after flogging.

Lol, I understand, you want me to help you through your delusion, sorry I can't .. Where do you want to see Father figure, loser?
Benin kingdom any day any time is your Father, there's no comparison, even your Ooni knows... So sorry kiddie... I'm still waiting for your answers to my list of questions... Mtchew..

TAO11:
Nobody asked you to flood here with tears.

All we ask for is that you accept your father as your father. That’s not too much to ask for. Or is it?

Nah, my last comment to you, you deserve no response from me until you learn to write with wisdom and not just knowledge..

TAO11:
Unsolicited secretary, LMAO. Thanks but no thanks.

Must Binis always be in the service of Yorùbá people?

Are you Binis that colonized by Yorùbás that you feel the need to be my secretary??

Is the colonization that bad?? Did Oranmiyan from Ife finish the job that perfectly??

Wow!

Who is this hypeman with no knowledge that is always looking for his mummy to help lecture people she is not qualified to even lecture. Abeg shift! Even if I can speak a language, does that mean a thing about origin? Or you're from England because you type in English?

Abeg, where does Tao get all these nonentities she wiggles around from as hypemen sef... Abeg shift, I am not in for a brainless people like you, even your boss sef lack wisdom na you her apprentice I wan come de waste time with.... Abeg shift!

SirNewtonNG:


The irony of it all is the ire o you put at the end a yoruba word. It seems you don't know it was ife who colonies the Bush people in bini, why do you think you have a lot of yoruba words in bini lingua mixed with your local bush language� all of you use omo and oba prefixes in your name with pride!, words you can't break down and words whose meaning have a different word in your local language.

Please TAO11 school this uneducated illiterate, give him a rundown. It's probably one of their burner accounts typing rubbish but we'll keep schooling them burner or real. Let them know how they were conquered by the ogisos from ife and finally by oranmiyan and his party from ife, whose yoruba descendants continue to rule them for almost a 1000, years, let him know with evidences and sources how the official language of 2by2 kingdoms palace, administration and trade was yoruba(lukumi). Let them know how the praise appellation of our son ruling them omo noba has yoruba praises that talk about him being a son of ife, let him know how the omonoba the ife yoruba king of edo usually praise the their ancestors at oyo and benin.

Infact he doesn't know how the many names of his kings which his people call meaningless has meaning in yoruba language ask him to break down ewuare he can't, ask him to break down ogidigan he can't and how it means ewuare the great, he can't do that. Ask him what their oba akenzua was doing at the 1937 yoruba council of chiefs meeting.

Ask him to give you sources of how he had ogisos before oduduwa, I'm sure he can't. It's just his wish that oduduwa is a son of igodimgodo and igodimgodo a colony of Oduduwas himself taken by his associates himself as sent by him had so many ogisos before oduduwa . A fantasy that's sadly a lie. TAO11 do your thing make this guy cry ma.

Bro a woman will shool you this time with some sources and evidence to send you back to 2by2

Oh! I forgot you have issues comprehending what contradicts your thought box. And please, when trying to discredit people, make sure you don't make such mistakes, "with without" is mocking another... Pele o

TAO11:

For the umpteenth time, type in English. I can not read Edo language or whatever language you’ve heaped up here.

Also, fight your inner demons alone with without the need to involve me.

I am NOT the Oranmiyan from Ile-Ife who captured ya people for his child till date.

Regards.

Who is this nuisance talking and writing junkie lies and senseless talks against people who owns their history and heritage... You mean Igodomigodo started having ogiso when Oduduwa, a true prince of Igodomigodo came to colonize and taught you guys civilization so you don't keep going around naked is when his birth place started having leadership, you are obviously a child with no working brain.

Do you think it is by writing as if you possess sense that makes you sensible... Who are the people listening to this nonsense kid writing nonsense everywhere... If any Benin guy continue keeping up with this lowlife woman, then they are obviously misplacing priority.

Ife had 97 kings lol, list their names! What happened during their reigns

Tell me why the white came around and never saw anything spectacular to talk about the Yoruba compared to the world recognition of the Benin Kingdom.

You initially claimed that all the Ogisos Igodomigodo had were tales and never happened even when names were listed and their deeds could be talked about and now, you're assenting to the fact that they now existed but your uncivilised Ife had 97 kings yet that kingdom knew nothing about civilization till Oduduwa came...

Your claim so far as been that Oduduwa was the one that made you guys relevant and therefore, made other people relevant because he was your eye opener... you are a learner!

Because you can read books and copy paste here makes you think you are knowledgeable? Knowledge that lack wisdom to argue wisely is that one knowledge?

I need the names of your 97 Ife Oba... Oh, sorry, Oba word was alien to the Yoruba kingdom until the Benin kingdom dominated your uncivilised tribe... please, when you're writing, tell me what your ruler was called before Oduduwa came around, I mean your 97 rulers.... don't forget Ooni was never a kingship title ... and don't forget to make proof of their existence from your so called Yellow Skinned written books since all your claim and proofs must be written by the yellow light skinned people before they can make sense as you believe no precolonized brown skin had wisdom and were uncivilised enough to know their own history except your slave master approves it... What a mental slavery in the 21st century.

If you can't respond not just with proof but with wisdom I will stop wasting my time with a brainless woman like you.

Ire o!

TAO11:
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(1) According to the 1969 report of the archaeological survey of Ife by P. Ozanne:

Ife was 1st inhabited since some very distant antiquity and had many autonomous settlements by the fourth century BCE.

(2) King Oduduwa is from Oke-Ọra — one of the Late Stone Age hilly settlements surrounding the Ife bowl.

(2) Before Oduduwa’s reign in Ile-Ife, the city has had about 97 Ọbas (kings) from the provinces in Ife.

(3) From Oduduwa’s time, kings/chiefs were dispersed to other lands — including some non-Yorùbá lands.

(4) The Ogiso chiefdom of ‘Benin’ had not yet begun at the time, when Ife has already had about 97 Ọbas.

(5) The first Ogiso at ‘Benin’ was sent from Ife during the King Oduduwa’s era.

(6) The third Ogiso at ‘Benin’ was the last one sent from Ife, and he returned to Ife.

(7) The 3rd Ogiso returned back home to Ife when Ife became quite convinced that the native Binis have now been brushed up enough to continue by themselves.

(8 ) The Ogiso chiefdom later collapsed. The Bini elders now sent to Ife again for a capable ruler.

(9) One of Oduduwa’s youngest grandsons was sent to Benin for the task — a permanent rulership now.

(10) He was soon disgusted by their archaicness that he left in disgust.

(11) He, however, left a strict order that his baby from one of their daughters be made their king when he is of age — Ife courtiers to be sent to assist the govt.

(12) At this time, he was already king elsewhere — at a Yorùbá town, viz. Ọyọ-Ile.

(13) Later on, his child at Benin was installed as king of Benin, and was styled with the title “Ọmọnọba” which literally means: “King’s child”.

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PS: The European map attached below was created in the year 1513.

It depicts the phrase “Realm of Ọɣọnẹ” thus indicating the only relevant kingdom in the “Nigeria” region.

This is not explainable as mere acquaintance—as they (these Europeans) had no trade/any relations with this Ọɣọni’s kingdom a the time being far from the coast in the deeply forested interior.

The only valid explanation is, therefore, of a firsthand received information from the natives near the coast (i.e. Binis, Ijebus, et al.) who all admit to the seniority, superiority, precedence of this kingdom of the Ọɣọni [Ooni] at the time.

Cc: rhektor, SirNewtonNG, nisai, christistruth01

Another nonsense...

Keep licking your wound and dream on in your never and can never happen fantasy, see baby kingdom whose till date are never one as a Yoruba nation talking to pre-civilized people of their time... Mtchew!

Learn wisdom and in all ask for understanding. Trust me, your cry will continue till your death as your fantasy will continue staring disappointment in your face

TAO11:
I didn’t ask you for ocean of tears. So, why all these?

All I ask for is that: For every Benin tales-by-moonlight you tell; bear in mind that this is not Ekpenede street where the dullards don’t ask for evidence. Stop getting mad when we ask for evidence.

Also, stop getting mad when we provide evidence to show that the Yorùbá group remains your father from prehistory till present and into the future.

Cheers.

Lol, I know your type... Your psychological approach in weakening a defense is to raise a reviling bar, you de learn...

Oh! I forgot you have issues comprehending contradictions against your belief.. No wonder you keep cancelling people's replies.

There's absolutely no reply you have given you haven't insulted the writer. Please grow up...

Winning an argument all the time does not make you wise... The hatred you have for the Binis will bring your arrogant painful worthless fake knowledge to an end. Try reading next time with an open mind and not with a blocked headed brain so you can atleast learn and appreciate other ethnic groups around you.


Mtchew!

TAO11:
Type all these again -- in English this time around.

Or/and engage the argument in my comment which you quoted.

Cheers.

Some people are clamouring for first hand eyewitness and she's saying it with so much foolishness.

If eyewitness according to you never arrived, then the people never existed and if they do, their history is forgotten or non-consequential no matter what they have written about themselves, stupidity of the highest order. Using the 1880s as the benchmark of witness because some whites, sorry light yellow skinned people came in, so only their records validates preceding histories, nonsense. What a mentality.

Seeing your first response shows your level of reasoning and I won't waste my time dragging words with you. Common sense would tell you that Google would show more of Benin Republic being a country than a non sovereign region due to colonization, and you contrast that with Yorubaland that does not have a share of name with sovereign entity? Common sense my brother.

I now understand why most people has refused to respond to your post on here, you think you can talk people down because of some books you think you've read? Just deal with the sore the Benin historical heritage has on you, you won't die my dear.

Ire o!

TAO11:
Oh really?

BiTtEr that tHe wEsTeRn wOrLd rEcOgNisEs Benin. Lol.

Think again. I am only freeing you Binis from a strong grip of delusions. Simply helping you all draw the line between history and hallucinations.

If you pay close attention, you would notice that your people got saner on Nairaland recently — Isawa work o. Ask around.

Go outside Nigeria (in Europe, America, etc) and tell to someone that you’re from Benin. I bet they’ll think you referring to Benin Republic.

You’ll have to do some explaining before they’ll have a clue that there is another PLACE called Benin. Try the same for Yorùbá-land.

Yes many people who search beyond the surface may remember your kingdom as the smaller Benin whose Ọba was banished, its chiefs executed, and its arts looted as a punishment for the murder of some members of Acting Consul-General Phillips’ team.

Can you type your question here in English please? Thanks.

But if what you tried to ask for is the reference to that attachment, then be duly informed that it’s now given in the foregoing comment.

Cheers.