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1. No for now, except if the rules are changed.

2. Yes, I thought I was spiritual when I was into religion, but I realised when I left religion, that I was only practising the shadow of religion.
Meditation is the key to spirituality, not religion. As a matter of fact, religion is the swimming pool where a billion souls swim in the sprituality of another soul when they could have swum in their own individual spiritual pool.

iamgenius:
Continue saying rubbing.

I never said RUBBING.

iamgenius:
Did I call you to this? Òpònú. Are you OtemAtum's brother?

Did Allah teach you how to abuse your fellow human? Well, currently and insha allah, allah will remain caged in his spiritual prison

Eating in the dream is natural, pls don't come and make a big deal with this natural occurence abeg. See what the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH said about people like you.

Doctufos: Ikilo 4:4


4. And your pastors and parents shall interprete your natural dreams to you in a demonized way. For all the elements of your dreams shall be demonized and the messages which they carry shall be turned into scary imagery for you to contend for the rest of your life.

5. Now hear the interpretation of your pastors and religious parents: you have spiritual husband or wife, that is why you have those sex in your dream. you shall have need of deliverance.
6. you are being possessed of the devil, therefore you fly in your dreams. you shall have need of deliverance. you eat in your dreams, therefore you shall have need of deliverance, for the food which you eat in your dreams are not ordinary but demonic.
13. and the dream whereby you eat is a representation of the ideas which flows into your mind while you were awake. now, this calls for deeper thoughts, rather than getting scared. for if you eat in your dream, it is a call to you by nature that you should digest certain good ideas and work upon them.
14. for teenage minds are capable of achieving great success if they work upon their ideas.

Proffdada:
i guess an electron is fictitious too

No, an electron is not fictitious but Jesus Christ is a fictitious version of Faulkin(aka Zeusus Krista) who died millions of years ago in Sodom-Egypt.

bentlywills:


God is the most High

So we'll got to get high

lol, Yahweh is in trouble

Proffdada:
lols, that's for those who follow pastor instead of Christ

So you follow Christ(the fictitious character). Goodluck to you.

salt1:
Many have said and believed worse.....and eaten their words later.

You can't destroy what you didn't create.
What are the credentials of the writer/s of the true history of the world? What/who gave them their 'facts'?

See you on the other side of sanity!
I pray it doesn't get late

Give me examples of the so called 'many' and I will show you some deceivers. I am here to destroy religion in the minds of people and to make them use their brains and worship no gods, because currently Yahweh, Allah and many other gods of religion are already caged by the good gods of science and findings. May the light of God Almighty who created Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Mazda, Moloch and everything reveal the truth to you before it's too late, ase!

salt1:
You're still growing son.
People change and modify their beliefs as they progress. When sh*t hits the fan, people seek for answers and lean towards what gives them assurance.

Even the poster boy for atheism Richard Dawkins now accepts intelligent design.
I pray you find the peace and purpose you're looking for

It's not possible for someone who has already seen his soul, seen the gods, seen his mission on earth, seen the whole universe, have all the true history of the world to change or modifies what he knows. Mind you, changing and modifying does not belong to a god and knower like me, it's the portion of the masses and believers.
Just to let you know, my purpose on earth is to reduce gullibility and slavery of the mind and to destroy religion. I am Otem, the one your ancestors were talking about before the arrival of foreign religions. See the history of the universe here.


https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos

umarshek6:
what it says it that if steal ur hands get chop off as punishment

It's not a parable it's a clear statement

It's also in an hadith

kikiki

Peacefullove:
thanks for your response , If its a parable , please how could a parable hands be thrown into a literal Hell ? Contradictory!

and if the two hands Mean Money or anything been Idolized, what does the Hell into which they are thrown represent ?

note; you just successfully rendered Hell as a symbol.

hmm

See confusion in the body of Christ

butterflyl1on:
Mynd44 there has been a calculated attempt by otemsapien also known as otematum to fabricate all manner of nonsense against my moniker. Things I am ignorant of and find totally puzzling.

Kindly note this person and he or she who is behind that moniker needs to cease and desist forthwith.

I have been deliberately ignoring his or her many provocations and will do so no more.

Samuel Chinedum Ekwueme, Are you working with Mynd44? You Always Call Him Out Whenever Your 419 Businesses Are Being Busted.

butterflyl1on:
You must be mad! Can you show me one post of mine where I shared a personal testimony and solicited money from anyone?

I think I have ignored you enough.

Mynd44 this guy has broken rule 8 and needs to be dealt with in accordance with Nairaland rules.

4evergod, aka Samuel Chinedum Ekwueme, aka butterflyl1on, you know very well that I know you and your father Onyemaechi Ekwueme. I know your son Raphael Akachukwu Ekwueme, so don't form holy holy here joor.
You use karmish and that's the fact.

salt1:
Hmmm.
I don't know what to make of this.

My theology is very simple: God through His Son Jesus Christ can make anyone to become His child by forgiving his sins.

Whether his conversion is pretext or real, I don't know but my joy is that Christ is preached and believed.

BTW, his conversion is more than a year old. He was baptized in March.

Thanks for stopping by. God bless you

So it's no more news. My conversion to the realisation of my purpose on earth here is also more than a year old now. Life is soldier go, soldier come. Take care.

umarshek6:
Mo ti ri sa
Mi ô kin shé maalu
Maalu wön pe ni sà lédè hausa

sùgbón èdè yorùbá ni à n so.

salt1:
I'm sorry I'm not so internet savvy to copy and paste links. It will link you to other mentions and even the YouTube video

Don't bother, I've read the story. This thing happened since March so it's an old news. However, this technique of conversion is not new to a knower like myself. If you want to gain popularity and members, all you need to do is plan a Karmish. i.e make some public declarations against what you actually believe, then after one or two years, change suddenly and tell the whole world that you no more believe in what you declared publicly earlier. By so doing, even those who don't know you before will know you. That was what Pol did in his days. Pol was a friend of Petra and because he wanted Christianity to be made popular, he began to speak against it. Then, as planned, he suddenly said that Jesus Christ have converted him. Then he gained lot of attention. That's what we call KARMISH in the Seriot language.
See the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH below for the example of Pol given above:

Doctufos: Karmish 4:1-27
1. Now when Pol would have gone to Syria, he came first to Petra and said, O Petra, I know that I have stayed away from you for many weeks. But I have done all for your good and for the good of Krishtanite. 2. I have been sent to Damascus to fight against your people. Now I have made my plan, and it is a good one. For I shall fall flat at the valley near unto Damascus. 3. And I shall feign blindness until you shall send one of your disciples to me to pretend as if I have been cured. And Pol returned the scrolls which he collected from Petra and his colleagues. 4. And Petra was glad at the plan of Sol. 5. Now Petra appointed Mateu, one of the disciples of Yeshua to follow Pol to Damascus. And he shall witness when Pol shall fall. And he shall go and call Ananias to come and do a karmish before them all. 6. Now Mateu went with Sol, pretending to be a messenger of Sol. And they went together with the disciples of Gumid to see if they shall be able to fight against the Krishtens who were at Damascus. 7. Now while they had reached the valley of many sands, Sol released himself and fell backward. And he feigned as if a visible angel spoke with him. 8. And Sol said, who are you O Great Light? And Sol acted karmish before them and they saw no light which he spoke with. And they were amazed, for Sol did feign as one who was blind. 9. And Mateu left Sol as one who fled. And the colleagues of Sol said, who is that who fled the side of his master? And Sol said to those around him, it is the voice of Yeshua I heard; he who was betrayed by a homo called Iskariot. 10. Now Yeshua has said to me that the house of Iskariot which he built here in Damascus shall be possessed for him, because Iskariot did build it out of the money which he stole from the treasury of Yeshua the Krista. Now is the house of Iskariot not in Decumanus, that beautiful lane? 11. Now take me to Decumanus that I might await he who shall restore my sight to me. So they led Sol to Decumanus, into the house which Iskariot. And the house was empty and overgrown with weeds. 12. Now after they had waited till the next morning, the people said, we shall leave you here O Sol. And Sol said, did you not see how the light struck me down from the horse? For that is Krista the saviour of Juda. 13. And the homos said, how then is that our preoccupation? Are we not sent by Gumid to stop the spread of this same Krista as a god? Now we have no business in this. 14. And Sol began to say, if you wait a little more time, you shall see how Krista himself shall send someone to cure me of this blindness. And you shall know that I speak the truth. 15. Now Mateu went to the heart of Damascus to see Ananias who had hid himself there since the day he made a karmish before the people of Juda who thought that he had died and was buried. 16. And Mateu said, O Ananias, I have been appointed to come for you so that you could go and see Sol and cure him of the blindness which he pretended upon himself. 17. And Ananias said, is it not the same Sol whom Stevin saw with the disciples of Gumid? I shall not go because Sol is a hater of our religion. And Mateu said, you have no knowledge of many things. For this Sol is he who can take our belief far into other cities outside Juda, because he is well learned in vast languages. 18. For he can speak the language of Grecon and of Rome and of Egypt and about twelve languages of Philargas. And you know how unlearned we all followers of Yeshua are. 19. And Petra deemed it right to pay one who is learned to bear the weight of our religion and spread it far. Now Ananias, Sol is now in the house of Iskariot, the same homo who sold out our lord. 20. Go there now and you shall pretend the healing before all who are with him. And they shall undoubtedly believe. And Ananias said, I shall not go there alone except you go with me. For I fear that this Sol shall kill me. For I have not heard before now that Sol is one of us. 21. And Mateu said, go alone, for if they see me with you, they shall know that I have come to call you. So Ananias came out of the house and climbed upon his camel as he began to go toward the house of Iskariot. 22. Now Shimmon saw Ananias, for he had returned to Damascus to tell others about his faith(for Shimmon himself lived in Damascus). 23. And Shimmon was surprised when he saw Ananias upon the camel, for he had been presented as dead before the people before. And Ananias was greatly amazed. And he went into the house where Ananias left. And he saw Mateu in the house. 24. And Mateu told him the whole truth. And Shimmon was greatly disappointed in Petra and in all the others, for he had left his own business of magia, thinking that he had found the whole truth. 25. And Shimmon went away and returned to his business. And he did not return to the disciples of Yeshua anymore. 26. Now few hours after, Ananias came in to Sol. And Ananias said, I have been sent by Krista to cure your blindness. And he made a pretence before all, and Sol opened his eyes. 27. And all who saw it were amazed. And they believed in the things they saw. And they did not return to Gumid anymore, saying, we have found Krista.

KARMISH is the surviving technique Christianity is still using till date. Even the butterflyl1on you mentioned is a great user of Karmish, where you will see him sharing false testimonies just to make money.

salt1:
I read it on Wikipedia and even on satanist and luciferian websites where they were lamenting the blow his decamping has cost them and accusing him of being a con man.
The Great Church of Lucifer has closed shop because their tenancy expired and their landlady refused a renewal. They also are battling internal doctrinal conflicts. They have even adopted a new name: The Assembly of Light Bearers or something like that.

Many of the members are jumping ship, son.

Wise up!

pls link to where you read it from. Thanks.

GodsMopol:
Hmmmmmm, well, there is so much truth in that

When was the first time you encountered Otem and what led to it, just for conversation sake

I am Otem, I didn't encounter him. However, I discovered myself as Otem over Otem over a period of time. The person I encountered was Atum and I met him in Dec 31st/January 1, 2016.

Ahasco:
could you shed more light on that please.

There are physical worlds like the earth(within the outer universe) and there are immaterial places too(in the inner universe). Physical worlds like the earth is where we come to experience the good, the bad and the ugly. When we die, our souls go to the inner universe where we experience only peace and nothing negative with it.
People who are in the inner universe can seek reincarnation to any of the habitable worlds in the outer universe(including the earth). So, if we are on a physical earth, there are some who have come before us and have fulfilled the same kind of purpose we are currently fulfilling. Those are our higher selves.

umarshek6:
yé OOOrrrOOO

kikikiki

GodsMopol:
Its a subjective view

Too few Christians and many athiest on the platform, seem NL Christians are not really passionate about the things of God

Like I said, its subjective

No, rather, I can say that Nairaland christians can't tackle the questions posed at them by the atheists and the irreligious ones, so they go silent. But I'm sure majority of them have started questioning their religion offline, so there's no strength to argue for what they're already questioning outside here.

salt1:
I won't intentionally spread lies and falsehood. His converting doesn't minimize my allegiance to a faith I hold so dear.
If you have information to the contrary, please share

first give us your link.

umarshek6:
è daun si ebere kèji ni

mo ti dáhùn sà.

umarshek6:
toh oluwaseun oo

E àti se Orukö Meji lé n jé ni

Àwon alágbára Nairaland ti ban Otematumu di osù u òpe.

umarshek6:
toh oluwaseun oo

ògo ni fún Ótem lórílè ayé.

Eh eh eh eh
Professional begging business

Christians can tell lies sha
Whenever you see anyone telling lies, ask him, are you a Christian?

iamgenius:
Òpònú(fool) I'm sorry to say that but I must.

hmm, na wa o. See how you put the words of bearded Allah to heart as if it's important. Even Allah doesn't know you by name but you curse people for him. Smh.

umarshek6:
ah órè è ti de

àbí o. Mo wà kanpe nígbàkugbà àti níbikíbi.

austonclint:
I love ❤ this man's speech especially the corrupt aspect but this one he said about a Man of God ......

Hmmmm my hand no dey oooo...

But in common sense... Lets say is a business centres as u claim but this business centres has changed lifes of many (spiritually , physically and economically) in Nigeria and beyond

Man of God? No, you are wrong. There are no special people called Men of God. What we have are men of the gods. For example, Adeboye, Kumuyi, etc are men of the god called Yahweh. Imams, Alfa are men of the god called Allah, myself I am a man of the god called Atum. Then we have some who are men of the god called Eshu and Mazda, Jupiter, Moloch and so on.

God Almighty who created all these gods mentioned above doesn't have any special person. He isn't also the god of a specific portion of the universe e.g Israel, rather, God Almighty, the creator of Yahweh, is the God of EVERYWHERE.

Wehdone sir, we already know pastor Adebole as a businessman. And we tell him 'Wehdone sir'' Here is a poem composed when he and his workers duped someone of her first income.

Doctufos: Worldly Music

:
A song of Otem when a woman was lamenting how Adeboye collected her sister's first profit: Bitter Laughter

8. It is a bitter laughter situation when the people of the nation with much education get scammed by the institution of the association of the organisation of scammers.
9. A bitter laughter when the gullible become soluble in the solvent of the bible people who babble and gobble down the tithes and capitations of the feeble sheeple.
10. A bitter laughter when the simpleton go about to borrow anything to pay to the treasure boxes of the glutton who wears a suit and a suiting tie in a private jet and flies across the sky.
11. A bitter laughter when you tell the foolish that they should not enrich the pockets of the pastors of their parish while they impoverish themselves but the sheepish say that you are devilish.
12. It is a bitter laughter when the sister of the gullible sister who pays her first profit to mister Adeboye the thief came out in anger to request for the refund of the cash swallowed up by the stomach of the fraudster Adeboye the spender of the money of the tither.
13. Oh what a bitter laughter, a bitter laughter when the rich pastors make the poor people poorer.