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Rosement:
With all those efforts, they only have 6,577 members in Nigeria. Light will always win over darkness.

That's not true oo.

Before MaxInDHouse comes for your jagular.

They are roughly over 200k JWs in Nigeria.

MaxInDHouse:
And apart from the organization of people that will inherit the earth, whatever they're building belongs to who?

What are you even saying?

It's all about the real estate business.

Just like when they left Brooklyn and moved to Warwick do you have any idea how much the GB made from selling the Brooklyn facility?

Just like they have been selling many Kingdom halls in Canada and in the USA.

This massive Video/Audio center they are building in Ramapo might even be sold to a Hollywood studio in the nearest future.

MaxInDHouse:
So out of 8 persons in the body you talked about 1, doesn't that show you that having children makes no sense to born again CHRISTIANS who believe in leaving everything on earth and going to heaven?
Do you now see why they're not accumulating material possessions as they don't see anyone to inherit it unlike your pastors who says they will make heaven yet they want to have everything on planet earth?

Leave Pastors of Christendom out of this - their case is a no brainer.

Let us focus on your beloved GB.

After all, your religion claims to be the only true religion in existence today.

Talking about earthly possessions, the GB is currently spending millions of dollars to build a new Video/Audio production center in Ramapo.

Are they not going to heaven again?

https://www.jw-avcenter.org/

achorladey:
Im mode of operation is NOW......

LIE first then DENY the lie and later ADMIT the LIE.

The organization calls it theocratic warfare.

LIE to conceal to the TRUTH

How does that even make any sense??

MaxInDHouse:
Just calm down and learn to know what keeps faithful servants of God going first instead of arguing about people who never had faith at all.
In the Bible there were servants of God who never had children and many were even poor materially speaking but they lived by faith.
So Jehovah's Witnesses don't make testimonies about any of what you mentioned rather what interests us is how much you're able to do in the work Jesus commissioned.

Even if you had no child nor material possessions like Jesus so far you're able to do much in the field ministry Jehovah's Witnesses will see you as a fine example.
For your information none of our leaders (Governing Body) have children because Jesus, Paul, and many other faithful BORN AGAIN brothers of Christ never thought of children!

LIES!!!

Tony Morris a member of the GB actually has two sons.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6027816581726208/anthony-morris-iii-autobiography-real-truth

MaxInDHouse:
1914 was accurate!
Just as the time Messiah would first appear was accurately 29 c.e. in the first century.
But just as many didn't get Jesus' program back then is what happened to his 21st century followers.
They thought it's time to leave the earth but they must see to the gathering of the other sheep first.
No matter how you try to complicate issues, intelligent Bible students knew the difference between misconception and miscalculation!

Oga do your research.

Jerusalem was actually destroyed in 537 CE.

** Modified - - Jerusalem was destroyed in 587 BCE and not 537 BCE as mentioned above.

And not in 607 CE as promoted by the JW organization.

This alone destroys the calculation that ends up in 1914.

Have you heard about the "great disappointment"

Do Your Research!!!!

achorladey:
We know you no dey like drink Panadol for other religious denominations matter na why your post on nairaland in total over 3 years reach 22000 post and still counting. Can you tell us your average post per day?

We wan use am calculate the amount of panadol you need.

What you don't know is that Nairaland is field service for MaxInDHouse

He is obviously recording his time on Nairaland as hours to put on his monthly report card.

Emusan:
Don't worry, time is coming that your fellow JWs will also deny of you being part of them while you're alive.

Heartless and hypocrite JWs.

Preach!!

MaxInDHouse:
According to Isaiah 2:2-4, Micah 4:1-3, John 13:34-35 and 17:20-23
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the one and only mouthpiece of the God i want to worship!
So there's nothing anyone can say against them. Jesus said:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

The SPIRIT WORKING with them has helped them to make the best Bible students globally and the evidence is here as i (a former Muslim) keeps quoting God's word pointing out what His will says but you're just quoting what people say about the best religious group ever on this planet! Matthew 10:22-25

The SPIRIT has helped them to erase racism and politics from the hearts of millions across the globe so that they vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4

The SPIRIT has helped them to have the most obedient members throughout the earth so that when people think of those who will never protest against constituted authorities JWs are second to none! Romans 13:1-4

When talking about the best youths people will like to have as children, JWs comes first of all the religions on this planet. That's why you're longingly anticipating their turnaround against those who taught them to be that good: the Governing Body.

So how come you are thinking the Governing Body aren't working for God yet they're able to gather the nicest kinds of people throughout the earth? Matthew 7:17-18

Yours is a pure case of Cognitive Dissonance.

Like I told you before, you left the frying pan - Islam, and ended up in the actual fire - JW

The GB that lied under oath that it would be presumptuous to say that they are the only channel of communication to God.

The same GB that has predicted and failed at their end of the world prophecies on SIX solid occasions.

The same GB that calls you an "other sheep" which means that Jesus didn't die for you - but only for the GB and the rest of the 144,000

The same GB that says you are a Not a "son of God" but only a "friend of God"

The list goes on and on.

Until you do your research, it will all sound gibberish to.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is the difference between you and me!

Do you have evidence or you just forwarded what you heard from others as usual?

Anyway thanks for your time!

Do your research.

The information is out there for you.

ALL you need to do is find it.

Charles Taze Russell was a 33rd Degree Mason.

Where do you think he got the 1914 end of the world doctrine from?

He got it after studying the pyramid of Giza.

Where do you think he got the cross and crown insignia from?

Why is there a winged sun disk in front of the books he wrote - the Divine plan of all ages?

Where do you think he got the term "Watchtower" from?

These are all Masonsic terms and symbology.

But you have to calm down and do this research for yourself.

Nelidee:
You are right. I can never agree with you because I have done my research on Jehovah's witnesses and seen for myself that it was founded by a man who was not only deeply involved in spiritism or pyramidology but was also a mason. They predicted the end of the world using numerous dates and it all failed. That's one sign of a false prophet for you. One of your leaders even built a house for Abraham, claiming Abraham was going to be resurrected on a particular year, How ridiculous!

You don't need to quote scriptures up and down for me. If I find a Bible group that believes and teaches the truth from the Bible, I remain there. When they teach doctrines from demons, I leave and my family leaves with me.

Can you do that? No.
Why? Because your GB has brainwashed all members to shun those who are not part of them, shun those who question their teachings, shun those who choose to attend university. If you leave JW today, all your family members will shun you. That's cult behaviour 101 for you.

You are locked and trapped in a religious cult posing to be a Bible believing group and you are too stubborn and lazy to know this because you choose to be forcefully fed and caged.

Truth doesn't cage you. It sets you free.

WORD.

I did some research and it is called Cognitive Dissonance.

Even though the truth about the religion is glaring.

Even if you show them the tombstone from CT Russell's tomb that was a pyramid.

Even if you show direct proof from their own publications, they will still put up the wall of defence.

But it just a matter of time.

Go to YouTube and see what is happening in many other countries.

People are doing the actual research and waking up.

The only problem is the fact that the organization will hold your family captive.

Even if you can leave, you family will still be stuck in the religion/cult and will most likely shun you.

*The picture below is the pyramid tombstone on the grave of Pastor Charles Taze Russell. But it was recently removed - and we all know why.

Comedian2019:
I'm not a religious person, but I know that people have the right to join or withdraw from an organization or movement as they feel like. Freedom to associate or disassociate is everyone's right. So what's the stress about that?
If you have personal grudge with the JW, go and settle it with them rather than writing an epistle.
It's high time we focus on what will bring economic progress instead of chasing shadows.

I feel you bro.

I don't have a personal vandetta.

I am just exposing the LIES and HYPOCRISY of the JW organization.

After all, it claims to be the only truth and channel to God.

All my life when I grew up as a JW, I had always seen the UN as an evil organization - because of what we were taught in our publications over and over again.

Only for me to find out that the same organization that taught me that the UN is evil, still went ahead to register as one of their partner NGO.

If a JW member does exactly the same thing, they would excommunicated from the organization.

Isn't that betrayal and hypocrisy?

And mind you, I am not chasing shadows, and what I write isn't an epistle.

But if it offends you, you could simply unfollow the thread.

Thanks.

MaxInDHouse:
You keep stumbling on the same stone!

Well for the benefit of other followers i'll shed light on the topic.

A sinner is someone who is prone to errors unknowingly but once a sinner discovers his or her mistake and makes a U-turn our God wipes off the error as if it never happened!
Numbers 14:18

But when a sinner fails to accept his mistakes then he/she wants to prove equal with God, now that's what is unforgivable. Matthew 12:31-32

This people admitted their error that's why they made a U-turn so it doesn't matter how long it took them to find out, what really matters is their willingness to make amendments!

Lol.

I am sure you weren't a Jehovah's Witness when we studied this book during our book study those days - - Revelation It's Grand Climax At Hand.

For a religion that claims to be Truth and God's only channel today, this a very weak response.

Before 1992 - The United Nations is evil! It will be destroyed in Armageddon!!

Between 1992 and 2001 - We are now registered as a partner NGO of the United Nations.

October 8th 2001 - It was exposed by the Guardian Newspaper

And all of a sudden two days later, well you know the rest.

This isn't the case of sinning,because it was not done UNKNOWINGLY.

This is a case of double standards and HYPOCRISY!!

You can't call an organization evil and then register to be its member and after you were EXPOSED, you now start claiming a new light.

Truth is truth and should never change.

cornelboy:
So what are insinuating?

Lol.

What do you think?

MaxInDHouse:
The point is they were partners with the UN before but now they're no more partners due to the light getting brighter.
So don't kill yourself my young man!

So before 1992, they already knew and printed in their publications that the UN was part Satan's system of things but still went ahead to register as a partner.

What do you call that?

HYPOCRISY!!!!

MaxInDHouse:
Well that's exactly what the JWs thought before Jesus asked them to quit because it's wrong from the viewpoint of God! Isaiah 55:8-9

Ah!

Senior man, why are you LYING?

For many decades before 1992 when the Watchtower registered as a partner of the United Nations, they have always said that the UN was part of Satan's Organization.

But don't take my word for it.

Let us go down memory lane and explore some of your own publications shall we?

1. The Organization has always vilified the United Nations - -

See the Watchtower of 1984 Sep 15 p.15 -

"No, the UN is not a blessing, even though the religious clergy of Christendom and the rabbis of Jewry pray heaven’s blessing upon that organization. It is really “the image of the wild beast,” the visible political, commercial organization of “the god of this system of things,” Satan the Devil. So the UN will soon be destroyed along with that beastly organization."

2. The Watchtower has always condemned Christendom for been involved with the United Nations - -

See the Watchtower of 1963 Nov 15 p.697:

"Such dwellers on earth wondered admiringly at the revived scarlet wild beast. Much reliance was placed in its ability to be a power for world peace and security. Great expectations were held out for it, and it was given designations that were really blasphemous from the standpoint of the Holy Bible.

How so? In that to this wild beast powers were ascribed and tasks were assigned that really belong to Gods kingdom and its Messiah or its Christ. Back in 1919 the scarlet League of Nations had been seriously called the political expression of the Kingdom of God on earth. And now the United Nations, the successor of that League, has been called the best means for peace, yes, even more than that, the last hope for peace.

So today we can see in actuality what the apostle John saw in symbol, that that scarlet-colored wild beast is full of blasphemous names. Those expressions of admiration for it turn false religionists, not to the worship of Jehovah God the Creator, but to idolatry of a man-made creation, the worship of a political image, the worship of an international organization for world peace and security. Rev. 17:3."

3. See the Watchtower 1987 Sep 1 p.20

"The United Nations is actually a worldly confederacy against Jehovah God and his dedicated Witnesses on earth."

If this is not a clear case of DOUBLE STANDARDS and HYPOCRISY, I honest wonder what else is.

Jesus must have been playing hide and seek with the JW organization.

Before 1992, the light was clear.

It then went dark for TEN solid years.

Then it became bright again after their HYPOCRISY was exposed.

WOW!!

MaxInDHouse:
Pain!
Well continue straining your brain cells!

Hahahahaha

Talk about exposing the hypocrisy of the Governing Body and the Organization.

Have you seen this thread? - - https://www.nairaland.com/6944208/jehovahs-witnesses-linked-united-nations

Your beloved organization was exposed to have been registered as a partner NGO of the United Nations for TEN solid years.

The same United Nations that is called the "Scarlet Colored Wild Beast" from the book of Revelation - as interpreted in the Revelation Climax book.

Pray tell, how do you debunk such a heavy accusation?

Comedian2019:
Humanitarian services is a good move every religious body should participate in.
What's the big deal in that?

Well for starters, this is a double standard by the Jehovah Witnesses Organization.

Why do I say that?

1. As a JW you are not allowed to work for any organization that is termed part of "Satan's world"

This is from the Watchtower of 1982 Jul 15 Box on p.26 Employment Factors to Consider:

"The Bible condemns things such as stealing, idolatry and the misuse of blood, so a Christian could hardly engage in work where he directly promoted such things. Would doing the work so closely link a person with a condemned practice that he would be a clear accomplice? Even a janitor or a receptionist at a blood bank or a plant making only weapons of war is directly linked with work contrary to Gods Word."

2. Even when asked if members can join the Young Men's Christian Association (YMCA), this was their response - -

.. In joining the YMCA as a member a person accepts or endorses the general objectives and principles of the organization. … Membership means that one has become an integral part of this organization founded with definite religious objectives, including the promotion of interfaith. Hence, for one of Jehovah's Witnesses to become a member of such a so-called Christian association would amount to apostasy." - Watchtower 1979 Jan 1 pp.30-31 Questions from Readers

3. Even the Elders of the JW organization are mandated to officially dissociate any member of the JW congregation/church who participates in politics or military service...

From the JWs Elders manual - "Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock" p.140:

"Jehovah's Witnesses maintain neutrality with regard to the political and military affairs of the nations. (John 17:16; rs pp. 269-76) ... Since true dedicated Christians are "no part of the world," if a member of the congregation unrepentantly pursues a course in violation of his Christian neutrality, he thereby disassociates himself from the neutral Christian congregation. (John 15:19; 17:14-16; w82 1/15 p. 31)"

But this is not all, I am just getting started.

The hypocrisy and double standard of the JW organization goes even way deeper...

MaxInDHouse:
Young man, my advice to you is that you try and think about your future not disturbing your brains over JWs matters.
You will never find anything incriminating against God's people because God's Holy Spirit is WORKING with this organization so all the qualities of God's Holy Spirit like: LOVE, JOY PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS FAITH, MILDNESS, SELF-CONTROL so against this people you can't find any law!

On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23

You will only continue to strain your brain cells looking for ways to accuse them and you will never find anything incriminating!

Hahahaha

E pain the guy.

Don't worry about my future.

There are still so much more LIES to expose about your beloved spirit led organization.

I am just getting started.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny Apostate!

So you think he is in Nigeria where your Naira is fast loosing it's value shey?

It seems you've been thoroughly brainwashed with the doctrines of the churches so you don't even have a balance view of alcoholic beverages, how can i help you now that you've chosen to criminalized taking of alcoholic drinks! Luke 7:31-35

Hahahahahaha

See who is calling another person brainwashed.

No wonder another GB member Samuel Herd actually admitted that JWs are brainwashed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxrZMwwt-y8

MaxInDHouse:
Have you forgotten that he is one of Jehovah's Witnesses?
Well a JW will prefer to drive ten miles to buy something if the seller is one of Jehovah's Witnesses! John 13:34-35

Chai the spirit in you speaks louder than words coming out of your mouth. Luke 6:45
Well Jesus warned them not to Lord it over the brothers, in other words a Governing Body member supposed to be one of my servants that should run errands for me and not the other way around! Matthew 20:26; 23:11-12; Mark 9:35

So humble yourself and learn because brother Morris will not even agree if i voluntarily want to run an errand for him, this are real Jesus' brothers {John 15:14} not your regular pastors you choose over yourselves to teach you what you want to hear! 2Timothy 4:3-4

Hahahahaha

Jesus's brothers indeed.

Before I forget, which money did he use to buy that almost $1000 worth of alcohol?

That is almost 500k worth of alcohol in Naira!

I hope it's not the money that many JWs from around the world including children have been contributing all this while.

Check out this other video below...

Was Anthony Morris actually drunk during the morning worship broadcast or what exactly was going on with him?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X67RAvC8HWM

MaxInDHouse:
You're just a clown boy!

It's the Jesus the churches of Christendom fabricated for their gullible followers that's lifeless not the Bible Jesus that eats and drinks! Luke 7:31-35

So if a member of the Governing Body buys alcoholic beverages what makes you think a fully competent and completely equipped JW will feel anything strange?

Hahahahaha

He calls me a clown.

E enter am

Your beloved GB who is a Guardian of your always changing doctrines, drove 45 miles away from the JW world headquarters, on a Sunday just to go and buy alcohol.

Why didn't he buy it around the JW headquarters area?

Of course, him no wan cast himself.

What would the Bethel family members say when they see a GB member buying a full hoard of 12 bottles of alcohol on a Sunday?

Why didn't he at least preach to the guy who caught him on camera in the wine store?

Abeg next time he should just send one of the GB helpers to help him on his alcohol runs because this was too embarrassing.

cornelboy:
Thank God he wasn't caught drunk and how are you sure it was on Sunday morning?

Hahahaha

He was caught on camera on the 31st of March 2019 at around 11am.

The funny thing is that the store where he bought this hoard of alcohol from was 45 miles away from the JW headquarters.

He didn't want anyone in the bethel family to catch him buying alcohol.

cornelboy:
2. What advice does the Bible give to those who choose to drink?
Jehovah God condemns heavy drinking and drunkenness. (Galatians 5:21) His Word says: “Do not be among those who drink too much wine.” (Proverbs 23:20) So if we choose to drink​—even in private—​we should not drink so much that we cannot think clearly, control our speech and actions, or maintain our physical health. If we cannot control our drinking, we should be willing to stop drinking altogether.

3. How can we respect the decisions of others regarding alcohol?
Each person must decide whether to drink alcoholic beverages. We should not judge someone who chooses to drink alcohol in moderation, and we should not pressure someone to drink who does not want to. (Romans 14:10) We choose not to drink if our drinking could cause problems for others. (Read Romans 14:21.) We seek “not [our] own advantage, but that of the other person.”​—Read 1 Corinthians 10:23, 24.

Very interesting points.

Hope you don't mind me asking..

Is this why Governing Body member, Anthony Morris was caught on camera buying over 6 bottles of liquor on a Sunday morning when he should have been at the Kingdom Hall??

I know MaxInDHouse will come for my head now

I saw this on YouTube - -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR4oBqrQ1UY

On the 8th of October 2001, the Guardian, a UK based newspaper wrote an article accusing Jehovah’s Witnesses and their organization of HYPOCRISY.

According to that article, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Jehovah’s Witnesses was registered as a partner NGO of the United Nations for 10 solid years!

You can read the article here - https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/oct/08/religion.world

After many enquiries by worried JWs, the United Nations released a couple of letters to confirm that truly, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Jehovah’s Witnesses was actually registered as one of its partner NGO.

As of 1 Dec 2020, the letter appears on the United Nations official site at Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society association with DPI: https://www.un.org/en/civil-society/watchtowerletter

The letter appeared originally at: un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf and then ask.un.org/faq/14501

You can find pictures of the letter attached below.

As the above letter outlines, the Watchtower was an associated NGO and to become associated required the Watchtower to accept the following:

1.That the NGO share the ideals of the UN Charter;

2. Have a demonstrated interest in United Nations issues and a proven ability to reach target or specialized audiences, such as educators, media representatives, policy makers and the business community;

3. Have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programs about UN activities by publishing newsletters, bulletins and pamphlets, organizing conferences, seminars and round tables; and enlisting cooperation of the media.

The key question now is this:

If there are many other religious organizations who were also registered as partner NGOs for the United Nations, why would anyone call JWs and their organization HYPOCRITES for doing exactly the same thing?

To further your research on this matter, check here - -

https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php

MaxInDHouse:
She died as a BEGGAR.
There's no reason to be emotional about that.
The problem here is you people are trying to say she belongs to the organization everyone knows that has LOVE among themselves.
That's what i will never ever take lightly with anyone dead or alive!

What has this got to do with been emotional?

Do you see what religious indoctrination has turned you into?

You would rather defend an organization led by 8 men in New York, than respect the death of another human being like you.

You always talk about LOVE.

But in reality, you have no inkling to what love really means.

MaxInDHouse:
What do you call people who begs for money?

No respect for the dead!

How can someone who is part of a true religion that has the backing of God sound so cruel and heartless??

MaxInDHouse:
Nobody is talking about Christians finding themselves in the hands of tyrants here Sir!

The case is about a DEAD BEGGAR and someone is trying to blame God's people over her death, and you're quoting where God's people were attacked.
What is the correlation between the two circumstances?

You call her a dead beggar?

MaxInDHouse:
When i said "i can never ever be in her shoe"
Do you think i'm just making some sought of uncertain assertion?
Well i have faced lots and lots of situations where i never thought JWs could prove to be loyal but i was surprised that these people did exactly what was written in their book (Bible)
So taste and see that JEHOVAH is good, he will never ever abandon his own! Psalms 34:8

The girl in question surely must have been one of the attendees in our meetings but she didn't stand firm that's why she couldn't come to the organization when she found out how she has destroyed herself with disloyalty! Matthew 27:50

WOW!

Not even an ounce of respect for the dead!

You call her "an attendee", but when you check out her facebook profile, you will see where she clearly stated that she "studied at the theocratic ministry school of Jehovah’s Witnesses"

Can a mere attendee say that?

If I may ask, can you tell me how she destroyed herself with disloyalty?

The more you speak, the more heartless you sound.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what you need to ponder because i can never ever found myself in her shoe! Psalms 23:1; 34:9; 37:25; 84:11

Interesting.

So do you mean the lady who died didn't fear God enough, wasn't walking blamelessly enough and wasn't righteous enough, was why she fell sick and couldn't afford to pay for her surgery?

Don't be too sure oo

Time and unforseen occurrences can befall just anyone.

It depends @OP

There is physical violence and psychological violence.

Of which many religions are guilty of.

So which are you referring to?

MaxInDHouse:
Prove that you're a worshiper of God through your activities on this forum as you preach and teach to win souls for your God!
I have provided an evidence where you yourself said you and your cohorts CREATED God!
What else remains if you're not an agent of the one who told Eve:

"For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad"
Genesis 3:5
When Satan said Eve and Adam don't need God in their world, what do you think he was actually telling Eve?
"Forget about God, it's just a figment of your imagination, you can do better without this imaginary friend!"
So try to convince your audience that the same God you said you created in your imagination is coming to do something!

Mr Millitary Intelligence Officer.

Like I told you many times before, even if you read that thread a million times, you will never understand what I mean.

There many GOD'S that you,and other members of other different religions pay an allegiance to.

The God that you worship, gets angry, gets jealous, has committed countless genocides and is even sponsoring a group of 8 men in New York to create "TRUTH" doctrines that get changed on a regular basis.

Why would your God put his trust in men who LIE even under oath?

The God you worship cannot be the INFINITE MIND who created the whole cosmos.

He is a creation of you and the GB.

And mind you, I don't have to prove nada to you or anybody.

I am not here to win souls.

Or is that what you are here to do?

Don't freaking tell me you are recording your time on Nairaland as hours on your monthly JW report sheet!

That would be pure deception, but I wouldn't expect anything less from someone who follows men who lie under oath.

Free you mind, and someday you will realize that all you have been looking for, has been buried deep inside you all long.