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Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 12:05pm On Jan 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Keep deceiving yourself! cheesy
Brother Jackson only proved to be as cautious as Jesus instructed when asked a dicey question, HE NEVER LIED! wink



From Satan's agent who said:



Come on my friend, if you want to struggle in words with anyone claiming believer in Christ know that your weapons against faith in Jesus Christ won't work whenever you come face to face with a servant of Jehovah. Ephesians 6:12
We will always render you silent because that's our HERITAGE! Isaiah 54:17

So say something else because truthfully you have no faith in the existence of God at all! wink
Hahahaha

So now I am Satan's agent abi.

Whatever rocks your boat.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 11:39am On Jan 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
You're very funny!
Just humble yourself and learn.
A servant of Jehovah is not bound under any oath unless when we are in the the midst of God's people.
For instance, did you think Jackson swear in the name of JEHOVAH?
Ògbéni, he played along since those people don't know the importance of the name of our God.
Jesus refused to give a straightforward reply to the Pharisees and Sadducees when they were questioning him. He refused to say a word but when the Chief Priest bound Jesus in the name of our God Jesus must not remain silent any more! Matthew 26:59-64

You people are just so gullible that you're not watching closely this Americans who claims to be Jesus' brothers. For your information in all their deeds they have proved to be cautious as serpents and harmless as dove! Matthew 10:16 smiley
WOW!

He played along?

To the Court of Law?

Lawyers in the house, is lying under oath not a criminal offense?

Kindly correct me if I am wrong.

MaxInDHouse, I thought the same GB has taught that you must obey instituted authority?

I get you sha, the organization calls it Theocratic Warfare - where you LIE to conceal the TRUTH.

But that is a discussion for another day.

Just to help others in their research, attached below is the full video of Geoffrey Jackson's statement at the Australian Royal Commission.

Kindly note where HE SWORE BY HIS BIBLE to say nothing but the TRUTH.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erWV8YnTFto

Now this is to ALL religious organizations out there, including Jehovah’s Witnesses:

For centuries, you have used man-made dogma and doctrines to dampened the spirit of men and women globally.

For so long, you have lied to them and refused to teach them the TRUTH about their OWN DIVINITY.

Your day of reckoning is fast approaching.

One day, the eyes of all the people you are deceiving will be opened.

It might not be tomorrow or next year, but it will most definitely come.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 10:38am On Jan 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
This is what being an agent of the intelligence has helped me to solve!
When God said "Israelites are my people" {Exodus 5:1} He never meant that they're one group of perfect humans rather what God meant is that this is the nation He chose to reveal Himself. So you will find all the traits of imperfect humans in their midst. That's why you can't point to a single Israelites that never committed a blunder except Jesus because he is a perfect man. smiley


Your logic is false because the Israelites were God's only channel yet imperfection affected them. The first century Jewish disciples of Christ were the only channel God used in the first century yet there were imperfect humans in their midst.
So you goofed big time my young man!

What we are saying is that God has chosen this organization and that doesn't mean you won't find sinners in their midst but there are signs Jesus promised that will serve as identifying mark of his true followers in our time. Jesus never said you won't find sinners in their midst because he himself came to call sinners not perfect people! Matthew 9:13

So stop confusing yourself, ask for the IDENTIFYING MARK of pure worship as stated by Jesus Christ himself! smiley
OK big time intelligence officer, I hear you loud and clear.

I am just happy to know that I struck a chord.

Just like I asked Mr Janosky, by this your statement are you admitting that a member of your beloved GB - Geoffrey Jackson LIED under oath?
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 10:33am On Jan 15, 2022
Janosky:
You claimed "na the same motor carry all", therefore it's your bigotry & hypocrisy makes you to "give a damn" and focus only on alleged case of abuse by JWs.
Just continue DECEIVING yourself grin

Matthew 26:31-35, when the disciples FALSEHOOD was exposed,are they still servants of JEHOVAH God?
1 Samuel 3:20 &1 Samuel 16:6, when Prophet Samuel's FALSEHOOD was exposed,is he still JEHOVAH's prophet?



Luke 24:19-25,Like Samuel,, king David, like the disciples, like JWs today, do you get it?
Monkey no fine,him Mama & Papa love am.
Very well.

No problem.

Good to know that I struck a chord.

Just so we're clear, when you talk about Falsehood, are you admitting to the fact that GB member Geoffrey Jackson LIED under oath?
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 7:11am On Jan 15, 2022
Janosky:
To ridicule the holy scriptures ,He claims that Galatians 6:10 and John 13:35 is "LOVE BOMBING"
JWs, my brothers taught by Jesus Christ, John and Paul, continue the LOVE without "BOMBING" while the Love of faithless people who are neither here nor there, continue to "wax cold" , according to Jesus Christ, @Matthew 24:12.

Bros, do you notice the contrast ?
Matthew 24:12( is the world, no love) & Galatians 6:10/John 13:35(Jehovah's servants, love dey stew everywhere) .
Say what you want.

Research as shown that LOVE BOMBING is a very powerful tool used by religious organizations - especially cults.

You and MaxIDhouse always talk about LOVE.

But you tend to forget that the LOVE you claim to have or show is CONDITIONAL.

But this is a discussion for another day.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 6:59am On Jan 15, 2022
Janosky:
JWs are very much aware, ask achorladey to give you the proof.
A lot has improved
He shared it on this public forum grin cheesy


Oteneaaron', present your public scrutiny of ALL Christendom Churches summoned and indicted by the Australian Royal Commission.
4,444 cases in the Catholic church, over 1600 cases in the Anglican church, Lutheran church over 1200.. Dem plentiful.


Else, you are guilty of the same accusation you labeled on JWs.

20 persons were alleged to have committed the same offence but you always single out only one particular person to castigate,why ?
I personally don't give a damn about any other religion that has cases of sexual child abuse in court.

After all, I have realized say na the same motor carry all of una - JW and every other religion of Christendom.

But I am focused on the JW because, ever since I was young, I have always strongly believed that the organization was the one and only true religion.

And when a religion claims to be the only truth, then falsehood should never be found in it's midst.

This is simple logic.

So imagine my horror when I saw that even the JW organization is also been investigated for sexual child abuse with over 1000 cases.

And mind you, this is just Australia!

This indirectly means the same thing is happening in other countries too.

So what are we saying?
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 6:38am On Jan 15, 2022
Janosky:
No,he did not lie.

Everyone else makes the same claim.
Read through their threads and posts.
"My mama soup sweet pass" ,na our Governing Body be the only true channel to the God of Jesus Christ.
Is their Polytheists deities the God of JEHOVAH'S servants?
Why bother about what JWs said?

Context !!!! cheesy grin

Questions for oteneaaron';
1. Who is "that someone can act in harmony with God's spirit in giving comfort and help in the congregations"?

2. What is "the congregations" that Geoffrey Jackson references?

3. Is it Trinity worshipping Christendom he references?

4. Is "that someone" a Polytheist 3 deities worshipper ?
No !

5. Who are "the slave/Group of persons" in Matthew 24 that Mr Geoffrey Jackson references?

6. Who did Geoffrey Jackson references as "fulfilling that role"?

I repeat, Mr Geoffrey Jackson spoke the same truth.
He never lied.
My Brother, Geoffrey Jackson was well prepared for that smart lawyer.

I have answered Question 4 for you.
You have to think deeply and understand what he says.
But apostates sold you a dummy cocktail of lies, well repackaged
.
Lol.

It's funny seeing you talk about context.

OK, let us first go through a short history of some of the TRUTH teachings from the GB, shall we?

Please note - I bolded the key points.

This is from the 1998 Watchtower 10/1 p.8:
"Even as Bible prophecy pointed forward to the Messiah, it also directs us to the close-knit body of anointed Christian Witnesses that now serve as the faithful and discreet slave.

It helps us to understand the Word of God. All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the ‘greatly diversified wisdom of God’ can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave.—John 6:68.”

This is from the Watchtower of 12/1/1981; p. 27:
"Jehovah God has also provided his visible organization, his “faithful and discreet slave,” made up of spirit anointed ones, to help Christians in all nations to understand and apply properly the Bible in their lives.

Unless we are in touch with this channel of communication that God is using, we will not progress along the road to life, no matter how much Bible reading we do."

This is from the Watchtower of 10/1/1994; p. 8:
All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the “greatly diversified wisdom of God” can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave."

This is from the Watchtower of 11/15/09; p. 14 par 5:
We need to guard against developing a spirit of independence. By word or action, may we never challenge the channel of communication that Jehovah is using today. “

This CLEARLY shows that the GB have stated that they are God's only channel of communication on earth today.

Even as a JW, is this not what you have always been taught??

Or do you believe any different?

This was the simple question Jackson was asked - “Do you see yourselves as Jehovah God’s spokespeople on earth?”

Looking at the snippets from existing WT literature, why did Geoffrey Jackson LIE??

This was a very simple yes or no question.

If the GB has been teaching that they are the sole channel of communication to God, shouldn't his answer have been a loud YES?

Why wiggling around such a simple question?

In his own words Jackson said - "That I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that God is using.."

The Lawyer didn't use the term "only" in his question, so why did Jackson start with that in his statement?

In fact what does it mean to be presumptuous?

Presumptuous - Going beyond what is right, proper or appropriate because of an excess of self-confidence or arrogance.


Imagine that!

A member of the GB who has been teaching JWs for DECADES that they are the sole channel of communication from God is now saying that it would PRESUMPTUOUS for anyone to say that they are they only channel of communication from God.

Correct me if I am wrong somebody, but is this not a LIE??

Another thing @Janosky, why are you now saying that other people like your so called - poly-theists - make the same claim?

Why should you judge the organization by the same standards of churches that are part of Babylon the Great??

The JW organization has always claimed to be the ONLY TRUE RELIGION.

So therefore, we must address them on a different pedestal, especially when it's leaders blatantly LIE under oath.

A spirit anointed member of the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses LIED under oath!

If this isn't faith shattering, I wonder what else would be.

I will be patiently waiting for a rebuttal from you.
Crime › Re: So I Defeated This Monster Few Hours Ago. by oteneaaron(m): 6:32pm On Jan 14, 2022
Why do you call it a monster?

Did it try eating you?

You are not even eating the meat but you killed it as sport.

Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 10:00am On Jan 14, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
The man asking such question may not know the implication but trust Jesus' disciple, they surely knows how to respond to any question, they won't just jump into such huge net when there are many religious leaders also claiming they're ministers out there.
So according to Jesus of Nazareth let them produce their FRUIT! Mattew 7:16-18 smiley
And what pray tell, is the implication?

Are they or are they not the Sole Channel to God?

It was a very simple question.

Don't be scared, this wasn't the only question he was asked where he either lied or wiggled his way around the question.

I will show you more.

No worry.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 9:29am On Jan 14, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
See what i'm saying?
This report says "they are protecting the culprits" and you swallowed this hook line and sinker.
What if it's all a rumour?
Why can't the prosecutors get all their facts so that their won't be any form of cover up?

Imagine some people accused your own family of stealing and whose money was stolen? They said it's the money belonging to the members of the same family adding that victims were covering up the thieves! huh

Do you think that's an established case?
Why not talk about a single child molested by a JW where the parents aren't JWs?

Sure something is wrong with all these stories!

You can't be the complainant and at the same time judge over a complaint when you don't have any evidence against the accused! Matthew 26:59-60

For your information if you're so stupid to swallow false stories just because you hate a group it's not everyone that will be as stupid as you.

The Boko Haram was accused of terrorist activities killing people in their neighbourhood, casualties were recorded and the accused confirm that they're truly doing it.
But in this case you're carrying a story where the supposed casualties are denying what you're saying and yet you want everyone to believe your story! huh
WOW!

Rumor?

You call this Rumor?

Struck a chord didn't it?

Well, if taking the time to do research to be sure whether if the religion I dedicated years of my life to is harboring sexual predators or not, is what makes you call me stupid, then hell yea!

I love my version of stupid.

But if you, a so-called "intelligence officer" can call an information on the public domain rumors - without even trying to reading it to understand the true story, then your stupidity is quite pitiful.

You think you know everything there is to know about the JW organization?

You haven't even scratched the surface yet.

The day your eyes will be opened, you will regret ever leaving your former Islamic religion.

Talk about escaping the frying pan and ending up in the actual fire.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 9:05am On Jan 14, 2022
achorladey:
Even if he is aware, he will wave it off as propaganda and persecution. grin grin
Well if he may wave it off, but there are many others who won't.

This court case brings up so many questions.

What broke my heart the most was watching a video of Geoffrey Jackson during the court session lying under oath!

Ever since the 2012 WT article where the new light was announced that the GB is now the Faithful and Discreet Slave, this meant that they ARE THE ONLY DIRECT CHANNEL to God.

But when Goeffery Jackson - a member of the GB was asked the same question, he lied in his answer!

Angus Stewart - the lawyer asked him this blunt question: “Do you see yourselves as Jehovah God’s spokespeople on earth?”

Geoffrey Jackson answered:

“That I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that God is using.

The scriptures clearly show that someone can act in harmony with God’s spirit in giving comfort and help in the congregations, but if I could just clarify a little, going back to Matthew 24, clearly, Jesus said that in the last days ‐ and Jehovah’s Witnesses believe these are the last days ‐ there would be a slave, a group of persons who would have responsibility to care for the spiritual food.

So in that respect, we view ourselves as trying to fulfill that role.”

You may think I am lying, but here is a snippet from his statement:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlsVPTsUnnI

And I am like whaaaat!!??

I was shocked to my bones!

How can a member of the GB say this?!!!

The full video of the court case is available on YouTube.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 8:19am On Jan 14, 2022
Hey MaxInDHouse, here are some links to help you investigate the child abuse court case against the JW organization by the Australian Royal Commission:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/28/australian-jehovahs-witnesses-protected-over-a-thousand-members-accused-of-child-abuse-report-says/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-13/jehovah-witnesses-child-abuse-four-corners-investigations/100444320

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-33673240

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-studies/case-study-29-jehovahs-witnesses

Funny thing is many JWs don't know about this.

Do you know that one of the GB members Geoffrey Jackson was called to the witness-dock to give a testimony during this court case?

Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 7:56am On Jan 14, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
You have shot yourself in the foot! cheesy

Which of you is proud to mention the name of your church here?

So if anything is said about you people there's no way to verify the details. But with Jehovah's Witnesses we know how to go about it that's why you've become uncomfortable that there's a CARD that we can use to verify the membership.

I've told you and i will still tell you again that no branch will say a single thing because we are used to fabricated stories like this.

Just the name of her local congregation will set the ball rolling, apart from that it's just another cooked up tale! cheesy
Shot myself in the foot?

How?

Mind you, I am not affiliated to any church or religion - not after my experience as a JW from my childhood till my adult age.

You lie when you say other religions have no records of their members.

I may not have all the info, but I am sure many churches give a baptismal certificate to their members.

But you are right - I don't expect the branch office to give any official statement cos afterall, - an unidentified JW died because she couldn't raise 4million naira for a surgery that would have saved her life.

But if it were a much more "serious issue" like the Child Abuse Case of the Australian Royal Commission VS the JW organization, even a member of the GB would have rushed to give a testimony.

Talk about double standards and shifting the goal posts!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 7:33am On Jan 14, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Whether i typed RIP or not does that change her stand as a worshiper of her own God?
What matters now is the bad name you're giving my people when you don't have any evidence that the girl in question is one of us! smiley
No organization - religious or not - is above scrutiny by the general public.

If this happened with another church or religion, I can bet my left balls that you would be in the fore-front screaming - "false religion!"

But look at how the tables have turned!

Why don't you wait for the Branch office to give an official response to this serious allegation?
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 7:22am On Jan 14, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Who needs you to believe that i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses? cheesy
Then why are you insisting to know the congregation of the lady in question?

May her gentle soul rest in peace.

Another thing I noticed about you Max.

Since this news started trending, you have not for a single moment expressed any single amount of sorrow that a human being like you just died.

Not even a single RIP from you!

From the first instance this news broke, you have been defending the organization.

You seem like a different brand of JW to me - a very fanatic JW at that.

No matter what religious affiliations anyone might have, human life comes first.

The pure truth is that this news cast a very bad light on the JW organization.

This reminds me of the Child Abuse court case the organization had with the Australian Royal Commission some years back.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 7:03am On Jan 14, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
You already set the ball rolling!

You know what we do to be sure someone has been baptized as one of us so the simple truth will be revealed when this question is answered:

"what is the name of her congregation" cheesy
The main point Archorladey is presenting is this:

If you are asking for the name of her congregation before agreeing that she is truly a JW, why should we also believe that you are also actually a bona-fide JW?

If we must know the name of her congregation, then we need to know the name of your own congregation too.

How are we sure you are not just some guy who reads the publications and is just excited about JW dogmas and doctrines?

What works for her, should also work for you too!

As above, so below!
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 6:56am On Jan 14, 2022
achorladey:
That is why I want him to bring his baptismal question here or any other supporting evidence partaining to that question.

This particular MaxInDHouse will come to this platform and say every other person are ashamed to talk about the name of their church. He will beat his chest from morning till night about being a Jehovah’s witness without stating the name of his local congregation but look at issue of this lady, the first point of call is to QUESTION the name of her local congregation to see if indeed she is a bonafide Jehovah’s witness grin grin

When the news is favourable they don't care about the name of the local congregation that person comes from. When the news is unfavourable they start digging details to discredit and deny the the person.
Success has many friends but failure is an orphan.

I completely agree with your points.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 6:53am On Jan 14, 2022
achorladey:
That is why I want him to bring his baptismal question here or any other supporting evidence partaining to that question.

This particular MaxInDHouse will come to this platform and say every other person are ashamed to talk about the name of their church. He will beat his chest from morning till night about being a Jehovah’s witness without stating the name of his local congregation but look at issue of this lady, the first point of call is to QUESTION the name of her local congregation to see if indeed she is a bonafide Jehovah’s witness grin grin

When the news is favourable they don't care about the name of the local congregation that person comes from. When the news is unfavourable they start digging details to discredit and deny the the person.
You do have a point.

As above, so below.

What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 6:27am On Jan 14, 2022
achorladey:
I didn't adk him to explain LOVE BOMBING. The simple question was

Are Jehovah’s witnesses baptized in association with the name of their local congregation?

He knows the local congregation don't have power above the 8 religious leaders controlling it. grin
Well, in his defence, during your baptism, your details are added to your publisher record card.

It's not like you're given a certificate of baptism tho.

But of course the hierarchy can never be ignored.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m):
achorladey:
I didn't adk him to explain LOVE BOMBING. The simple question was

Are Jehovah’s witnesses baptized in association with the name of their local congregation?

He knows the local congregation don't have power above the 8 religious leaders controlling it. grin
I feel you.

I was actually referring to the sudden display of "Love" he was getting after his immediate baptism as a JW.

It is part of the process.

You get LOVE BOMBED.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ailing Jehovah's Witness Member Dies After Rejecting Money From Catholic Members by oteneaaron(m): 5:59am On Jan 14, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
YES! Because it's members of the congregation that will bear her witness that she's truly a JW!

Before my baptism as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, everyone used to call me brother _____. But the day i got baptized each of them came to me and gave me a big hug.
I don't know what that means until one little sister said:
"before i used to call you 'brother' that was just a formality, but now when i call you 'brother' it comes from the deepest part of my heart" this really shocked me! I couldn't just forget what that little girl said so one day after the meetings i asked her "please why did you say you were calling me 'brother' just for formality before?"
She said
"that time i never knew you as a baptized witness but now i can tell anyone that i am one of those who witnessed your baptized as one of Jehovah's Witnesses"

Then i came to realize why all of them were grabbing me to their body as if they newly met me!

So her congregation really matters here unless you just want to support lies against God's people! smiley
It is called LOVE BOMBING

Look it up.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jehovah Witness Kill This Lady? by oteneaaron(m): 7:38am On Jan 12, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
WHY?
Simple, because she's not a JW! smiley
Why is the name of her congregation not included in the cooked up tale? cheesy
And she is not a JW because this story puts the organization in a bad light abi?

Cos the question people are now asking is this:

Why will an organization that LOVES each other so much not be able to raise 4 million Naira for their sister to have surgery to the extent that she had to look for outside help?

But what if this story went the way you or the organization would have loved it to go?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jehovah Witness Kill This Lady? by oteneaaron(m): 7:28am On Jan 12, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
I know you will rush in and since you've been with Jehovah's Witnesses before why not ask for the name of her congregation?
After all the names of each member of the organization is now recorded in our system so tell your friends the name of her congregation so that they may know where the wicked JWs are in the world.
A poster has finished all of you when he said:



Common sense should tell any intellectual that since there are lots of nice folks among Jehovah's Witnesses then the girl in question couldn't have been one of them, otherwise those nice folks wouldn't abandon her! cheesy
Why are you being presumptuous?

Why don't you allow the District overseer or the Branch Committee to give an official statement?

From saying that the story is one-sided, you have now progressed to claiming that lady who died after fighting for her life is not a JW?

Why?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jehovah Witness Kill This Lady? by oteneaaron(m): 9:35pm On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
You people are blind, deaf and dumb spiritually speaking so how can you distinguish between cooked up tales and facts?

Now listen to this:

Stephen became one of Jesus' disciples, he did everything Jesus commanded, as a faithful follower of Jesus, their rulers ordered all the people to excommunicated those believing in Jesus, Stephen and others stick to their beliefs in Jesus until he was arrested and stoned to death for his faith in Jesus.

So what do you say about Jesus the one who infused the teaching that led Stephen to his early grave? Matthew 10:28
What about the Apostles who kept the faith strong in the hearts of Jesus' disciples after the ascension of their leader? Acts 4:18; 5:28
What do you think about Stephen who died for his faith? Act 7:54-60

Judas Iscariot became one of Jesus' followers, later Jesus made him one of his closest confidants and the treasurer of the little group of 13 men, Judas often steal from the pus but he wasn't satisfied with all the money he stole, the love of money moved him to go and meet the Jewish religious leaders and demanded for huge some of money to hand over Jesus to them thinking Jesus will escape as usual.
Jesus was killed and Judas couldn't spend the money he collected due to guilty conscience so he committed suicide.

What do you think about Jesus who chose Judas as one of his closest confidants?
What about Judas who betrayed his friend?
What do you think people will say about the group whose prominent member committed suicide after making lots of money?

No wonder Paul said:

Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine! 1Thessalonians 5:21 smiley
Wow!

So you are indirectly calling her a Martyr!

For someone who is a member of an organization that preaches LOVE, you are one stone hearted individual.

Someone just died for crying out loud.

But what do I know?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jehovah Witness Kill This Lady? by oteneaaron(m): 9:01pm On Jan 11, 2022
May her gentle soul rest in peace.

But you can't really blame her.

JWs call the Catholic Church - "the world empire of false religion"

Also known as Babylon the Great.

Accepting any form of support from them would have meant she would have either been reproved, disfellowshipped or shunned.

Many people have died over the years because of doctrines and teachings similar to this.

And the most painful part?

In the future, another new light will come up and an old teaching becomes null and void.

So what happens to people who died believing in the old doctrines?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Possible For Someone To Believe In God But Not Believe In Religion? by oteneaaron(m):
MaxInDHouse:
You typed this years ago:



Then when confronted you typed this:



Then this:



Surely faithless miscreants like you can't be in the midst of God's people {Psalms 24:3-4} that's why you don't want to be guided at all so that you can continue spewing gibberish about God!

God's people have always have leaders controlling them on how to live a holy life that befits God's people. Hebrews 13:7, 17
So your insinuation about how you and your cohorts created God wasn't an error after all it's exactly what you have in mind about God wink
Then enjoy your sweet organization.

Enjoy your faithful and discreet Governing Body as they give you food at the proper time.

After all, Armageddon is coming soon.

So you and the members of your organization can rejoice when me and my kind will be finally destroyed.

Free me and my faithless, miscreant self to enjoy the path I have taken.

Gracias!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Possible For Someone To Believe In God But Not Believe In Religion? by oteneaaron(m): 7:03pm On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Of course everyone made mistakes one time or the other in life, but what makes yours really pathetic is how you left an organized people claiming believers in God and start saying "people like you created God" shows how worse your situation is.
I left Islam for Jehovah's Witnesses organization because i never lost interest in finding God's people.

OK, now that you've realized you were stupid to have put up that insanity why haven't you deleted it to prove that it was some psychopathic thought that caught you back then? undecided
I am not refuting a word of what I said on that thread.

You left Islam to become a JW?

Good for you.

You call my case pathetic? - It is you who I feel pity for.

You left one mind-control system and ended up in another.

For how long will you continue giving your power to men like you?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Possible For Someone To Believe In God But Not Believe In Religion? by oteneaaron(m): 6:53pm On Jan 11, 2022
Kobojunkie:
I am here trying to understand your idea of God , is what. undecided
I am speaking of the INFINITE MIND behind the universe.

Is this still hard to understand?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Possible For Someone To Believe In God But Not Believe In Religion? by oteneaaron(m): 6:49pm On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
It's written in your thread "Who created God?"
And you answered "you and your cohorts"
That's enough for any right thinking person to know all that's needed about you! wink
That's fine.

What you or anybody thinks about me doesn't move me one bit.

I am on my own personal journey to find my own gnosis.

Have I made mistakes? YES!

Will I still make many more? YES!

It is a necessary evil.

To transform lead into gold, it MUST go through intense heat.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Possible For Someone To Believe In God But Not Believe In Religion? by oteneaaron(m): 5:48pm On Jan 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Do you even believe in God at all?
Since you said "you and your friends created GOD" cheesy
Hahahaha

Even if you read that thread a million times, you will never understand what I meant.

Gloat all you want.

If I tell you a little bit of what I believe, you might literally go crazy.

grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Possible For Someone To Believe In God But Not Believe In Religion? by oteneaaron(m): 5:42pm On Jan 11, 2022
Kobojunkie:
All animals( single-celled etc.) are also from the same source. So are you insinuating that they too are ALL of them , God's children? undecided
That is why is said it depends on who you understand God to be.

ALL THINGS - the entire universe - all come from one source.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Possible For Someone To Believe In God But Not Believe In Religion? by oteneaaron(m): 5:29pm On Jan 11, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Where exactly did you get this idea that we are, all of us, God's children? undecided
It depends on what you understand about who God is.

When I say we are ALL GOD'S CHILDREN, I am saying that we are ALL made from the same source.

The infinite mind behind the universe is who I am talking about.

We are all from the same source.

Therefore, we are ALL his children.

Comprende?

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