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Msauza:
YOU ARE LOST!!!! WAR COLLEGE OR WAR UNIVERSITY OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT IS NOT ON THE SAME FOOTING WITH THE BATTLE SCHOOL. THE WORLD AT LARGE HAS ONLY TEN OF SUCH FACILITIES. THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE HAS ONLY TWO FOR WHICH SA IS THE LARGEST. I QUOTE:


The SA Army Combat Training Centre is unique
in the sense that it is one of [size=14]ten similar
institutions in the world[/size] that provide exclusive
and permanent facilities for landward warfare
training. [size=14]Only two of these institutions are
located in the Southern hemisphere, of which
the SA Army Combat Training Centre is the
largest, 158 000 hectares in total.[/size]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lohatlat

http://www.actc.army.mil.

ok so we only have 10 military institutions with the name battle school? hmm! thats cool, i like this game of big names.

dieantwordRSA:
Nigerians
It looks like you should be my STUDENT IN POLITICS...One of your top dogs and former president agrees with me when I said that Nigeria was suppose to have talked with Boko Haram, by doing that they were going to weaken them and see who were the OVERHEADS (weaken them one by one).

Lastly the truth stands as I said that BOKO HARAM,ANSARU etc...is a result of socio economic challenges that people from central and northern face every day. REMEMBER MY MAPS FROM BBC ON POVERTY+MILITANCY=BOKO HARAM AND OTHER GROUPS..




Again, Obasanjo seeks dialogue with Boko Haram; says sect has legitimate grievances
March 17, 2015Ibanga Isine
Former President Olusegun Obasanjo
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Nigeria’s former President, Olusegun Obasanjo, has again advocated dialogue with the insurgent group, Boko Haram, saying the group has legitimate grievances despite its brutal five-year campaign that has killed more than 15,000 people, with hundreds of thousands displaced.

The former president said Nigeria should not rule out talking to the terrorist group which recently pledged allegiance to Islamic State (ISIS) – but he said that should only happen after a sustained military campaign.

Boko Haram’s run of violence against innocent people in schools, places of worship, markets and homes, only slowed relatively in the last few weeks in the face of increased military onslaught from Nigeria and neighbouring Chad, Niger and Cameroun.

The military has retaken 15 of 16 major towns seized by the group, the latest being Bama in Borno State, recaptured on Monday.

In response, Boko Haram has launched more suicide bomb attacks killing scores of civilians.

In an interview with the International Business Times in Dubai, Mr. Obasanjo advised that in dealing with the terror organization, the Nigerian government should not rule out dialogue if the group is willing to talk. He said that should happen only after sustained military operations against the militants.

Mr. Obasanjo, who spoke at the side-lines of the Global Education Forum conference, said with only 19 per cent of the population in Boko Haram’s stronghold of North-East Nigeria receiving education, [compared to 79 per cent in the South-West and 77 per cent in the South-East], there was no question that the area should feel marginalised.

“We don’t need anyone to tell us that that is a problem; a problem of disparity, a problem of marginalization, a problem because education is fundamental to your employability and to your living conditions. If you are not educated you are handicapped,” Mr. Obasanjo said.

Mr. Obasanjo again criticised President Goodluck Jonathan’s response to the group, saying the incumbent failed to act quick enough in taking the fight to Boko Haram.

That failure, he said, had given the group “false confidence” to spread to neighbouring Chad and Cameroon.

“The response of the government initially was definitely not enough. When Boko Haram started showing their fangs about four years ago, the reaction should have been firm and unmistakable. We have lost ground,” he said.

Mr. Obasanjo said as progress is made with the regional response from Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon and Niger, the Nigerian government should not rule out engaging with the militants.

“If Boko Haram is ready to talk, we should talk. But by the time they are ready to talk they will need to be pounded a little bit militarily: at that stage they will be ready to talk,” Mr. Obasanjo said.

Mr. Obasanjo has made similar calls in the past. In 2011, he made a unilateral attempt to open talks with leaders of the deadly sect.

The effort ended on a bloody note with the murder of Babakura Fugu, the man who received Mr. Obasanjo, and attempted to establish a link between insurgents and the former president.

Mr. Fugu, a brother-in-law of Mohammed Yusuf, Boko Haram’s founder, was shot to death shortly after Mr. Obasanjo left his home in Maiduguri, the Borno Stat capital, where he had flown to for a meeting.

The effort was not at the instance of the federal government, officials said at the time.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/178601-again-obasanjo-seeks-dialogue-with-boko-haram-says-sect-has-legitimate-grievances.html

do we also need a lecture from you on self service? dummy trying to talk smart.

Msauza:
The whole 50 000 Army personnel have fired R4 either in battle or in the battle school, the only battle school in Africa.

you re holding on to a fallacious claim. and i am personally surprised that you ve not edited your post yourself to correct your own mistake. What you call battle school could be the same thing another country chose to call a war college, war institute and so on. you don't just wake up and say South Africa has the only Battle school in Africa, doesn't it even sound ridiculous to you, knowing the fact that even small non state actors like militias e,g Boko Haram, Al shabab e.t.c all operate similar institutes

NighttWalker:
In as much as I've wanted a rocket luncher in the fight against insurgency, judging from the pic you can tell it's not Nigerian from the background as you can see snow and the Nigerian flag on it look photoshoped, that's not the way the NA puts her flag on her death machines

what you saw is totally Nigerian, or some other country with green white green flag, it was not photo shopped.

Patchesagain:
Nigerians like to show off the hauls that they(South African mercenaries) captured in bama

Brah, get on our level

you captured those thing while fighting a conventional war against a mechanised enemy.

MikeCZAR:
They can't move in formation.

There's no command and control over the men, they just fire willingly.

They're fighting while the enemy might still be very close.

PURE REBELS!!!!!! They'd be eaten if they went against a real army.

thats what you dont understand, we re not fighting against a trained army. you ve the knowledge of conventional warfare and when you see a soldier being trained on assymetric warfare you start thinking its stupid because you do not understand it.

Msauza:
Those pics are old damn it!! SA mercs are only approximately six weeks in Naija dammy and that pic was taken some years ago.

so what we have here is the case of a nation that have perfected the art of using its own airframes from long use and experience but she still needs SA mercs to fly her sorties. wait oh! oga. what planes do this your mercs use for their training that qualifies them to fly alpha jets and F7.
dude your heavily bearded south african mercs are here to on a transfer of tech know how basis alone and even at that they are still managing to find their death in Nigeria

boy. i am so grateful

Adesege:
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Msauza:
Don't bring old pics here.

dude he brought it to the table to prove his point. where re your mercs flying those jets.

Adesege:
You are using a CMS. You can find plugins that will do that job on Google.
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thanks for your responce time. i am kind of scared of relying too much on plugins so i do not weigh down my site.

Msauza:
I gave you pics which were confirmed in twitter by hundreds of users to be from Maiduguri. Many of Maiduguri subscribers claim to have seen SA white men military colours doing the rounds in Maiduguri.

However, let me leave you with something else to chew on.


http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/a80a4800478a1aa3b415f642d945d4b0/Former-SANDF-soldiers-helping-to-fight-Boko-Haram-20150603

thats just as truthful as the story of the 5000 Nigerian soldiers rumoured to have fought in the angolan war
mind you, this was written by a prominent jounalist robert moss. http://www.rhodesia.nl/moss4.htm so you ll have a lot of things to believe if you will have me believe that your yeye theory.

Msauza:
South Africans are playing a pivotal role in fighting BH.

Nigeria's sudden edge to acquire weapons in SA and their continued lip zipping around SA mercenaries presence in Nigeria, leaves a lot to be desired.

Even the spokesperson of defence in his twitter account avoided many a times to answer questions that had to do with the presence of SA mercenaries in Nigeria's war against terror.

okay so what you re saying is that there is no official evidence to back your point but somehow you strongly believe you re right?

Msauza:
Just visit twitter and see hundreds of NE Nigerians confirming SA mercenaries presence.

even while the whole mecenery issue was still going on nigeria released a documentary showing white trainers for her military and they were not south african, we didnt buy any system from you, your government have openly agreed to support our fight against terrorism and still we didnt ask for an official government recognized training team to be sent, we didnt ask your government to send in experts to assist in training, in your own senile opinion we left all this legal, cheap ( probably free) forms of help from your government and then we insulted her by employing her citizens as merceneries?
wow, men your perception of the intricate details of international politics is very wrong, shallow and misleading. cus as a south african many will take your opinion as authoritative on this issue. But it is just so unfortunate that this is all you have to bring to the table an "unparalleled compendium of bogusly concorted rubbish!" your government in the light of her mutual friendship with my country would consider your behavior as disastrous, treacherous and an attempt at sabotaging the growing economic relationship between nigeria and south africa you ve even taken this your misguided theory to twitter and other social media platform to peddle the lies to the vulnerable Nigerians in the war torn zone that the white trainers that they ve been seeing are illegal south african fugitives it is a very dangerous game that you ve chosen to play.

patches689:
Not knowing that the gulf war was feircly contested

i am talking about the power of an overwhelming deterring structure and how it has shaped the modern war history. i am not concerned about how the gulf war was contested ( whatever you mean by that). i am trying to tell you that we met little resistance because we were prepared for a very strong resistance and at this point in the war the militants cannot afford more casualties. they must run when they come face to face with the military structure that have maintained and enforced peace and freedom in africa, they must run from the Nigerian forces and even this race will not be enough to save them from the bullet of an angry Nigerian infantry man.
in the same vein the US army boys were expecting a strong resistance from the Iraq army stationed at the border of kuwait, so they packed heavy ( they were not willing to retell the vietnam story) but when they got to the border they saw thousands of hungry, thirsty and unkept Iraq's infantry men coming out of their bunkers to surrender. it is on record that only the cornered Iraq's elite republican guards were able to mount some form of resistance.

yes of course our igbo brothers are there representing themselves and causing trouble with their connections with political office holders, forcing the government to enforce a product that they sell.

Msauza:
SA merc continue to train your military even today.

and i should believe that because you said so? wow, thats kinda subjective dont you think?

patches689:
hahahah

This guy is talking about blitzkrieg in 2015

Also, article says you did not meet major restiance during the attack

go read about the mother of all modern wars, "the gulf war" the allied forces did not meet any form of resistance from the troops stationed at the border of kuwait, why? because the fear of superior weapon systems and a well trained force is enough deterrence to put any militant group on the run or surrender even without a short being fired.

Thiza:
The 9 million US dollars that were confisticated in South Africa from Nigeria was meant to buy South African mercenaries to help train, and lead Nigerian soldiers into battle....Some Ex South African Airforce personnel are now flying night attacks against Boko Haram bases......SHAME

how often do you think with your @nus. this ex SADF men that you talk about what were airframe were they trained to fly and what airframe are they flying now in their alleged tour in Nigeria.

DieVluit:
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In other words, he has no integrity and courage of his convictions. You can't trust that he will stick by his opinions because they change based on the gallery he is playing to.

You and Patchy are saying the same thing. Shame on you.

who is this one again? Dievliut whats the problem? i said, just like every sane person he subjects himself to talking strictly based on the topic @ hand. The topic is; who have the strongest mil in Africa. we all came here to make sure we present our various country's military as special and supreme in times of technological advancement. Sir Agaugust have taken his argument to the next level and have presented himself as a good Diplomat and representative of his country. if there was anytime or place where he made any statement that tended to have immortalized any South African military agency or assets it must have been because he was in a friendly environment and as such felt free to make use of constructive criticism to describe some certain faults in the system, but be rest assured that his commitment to the Nigerian state remains intact and cannot be flawed by this his brief diversion into the realm of internal political realism.we will continue to enjoy his comments and his sound military and political analysis.

Patchesagain:
How do you type with his phallus in your mouth?

Its fairly hilarious that you are praising a troll who was recently exposed for praising the South African military and highlighting its superiority on a different forum

Some would call it multi tasking, his opinion outside this forum would appear to be blindly pro Nigerian because of the nature and scope of this thread. But it would be unfair for anybody to ask him to subject himself to the same behaviour in another forum with a different topic on the table.

agaugust:
Yes, the embarrassment to France is worse than Nigeria.

Terrorism comes in different forms, who is worse affected is not a game of total numbers, but the objectives achieved by the terrorist and overall impact of the attack.

The biggest single terrorist attack in the world, the most dramatic and most embarrassing record belongs to America, the terrorist attack on New York city 9/11. The number of Americans who died in 6 hours is more than half of all those that died in Nigeria in 6 years.

France's capital Paris was locked down by 3 terrorists for 3 days and took mighty France 88,000 police, SWAT, and soldiers 3 days to defeat 3 terrorists.

No terrorist has ever succeeded in locking down Abuja for 1 minute
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Sir, you ve been doing a good job, keep it up. this bushmen from south africa are now being educated by your authoritative command of a superior intellectual competence.

Patchesagain:
Napoleon is not worth studying

how can anybody regurgitate this blatant rubbish out in a public fora and still claim to have a hold on his sanity.
Dude, wherever you may have completed your course in Strategic studies, military history or defence studies and nobody mentioned Bonaparte then that place must have been a baby's kindergarten class.
I mean Bonaparte is a name that cannot be detached from any known documentation or curricula on military history, it is a name that also forced the signing of the Vienna conference 1814/1815 to stop a war that was already disintegrating Europe. Read about Bonaparte he is worth studying.

Patchesagain:
Still claiming imaginary glories? How shamefull and delusional to think that your country has any relevance on the international level.

The end of the cold war ended apartheid, the English and Americans didnt need the Apartheid government to fight communism in Africa, so they cut their support and waited for them to fold. All Nigeria did was issue visa's and write a single song - so impressive

I am not wasting my time with this argument - the speakers at Madiba's funeral show who was the nations that truly assisted us.

Now, go back to sucking South Africa's d1ck on Beegugugugug's blog

careful young man, don't get carried away.

ok then, i ll call you. when i am ready.

Okwori12:
Am now talking about outside country... I mean Nigerians active email addresses

DictatorZAR:
Simple answer is the SAS Drakensburg 12500tons. It still remains the largest ever military vessel built in Africa.

Get your facts right before you comment

i think you do not understand what an FPSO is and the level of machineries that are mounted on it. that your ship can never weigh half as much as that oil installation.

Henry120:
Actually you don't need to develop engines, you can easily purchase MTU engines from Germany, South-korea, U.K or France.

Radar system, again, they can be purchased from Germany, Russia, China, the U.K, South-korea, Israel etc.


Sub-systems, codes and other miscellaneous can be developed locally, judging from this vessel i can see, they can be done.

The reason why the developed world and developing, but richer countries like india, turkey can do it is because, their government's have considerable access to larger funds which can be tapped into.

What's in developing codes using C++?". We built Nigeria SAT-X and are planning on launching another from Nigeria in 2018.



If Nigeria can launch High end FSPO's, there is nothing to celebrate in the launch of amphibious assault ships or landing crafts.


It isn't just a question of competing, it's a matter of having local options to give priority to when orders are about to be made.


Streit group is the world's largest Private Armoured vehicle/MRAP/APC manufacturer........ yet this company isn't up to 20 years old.

The growth in Nigeria Private sector is exponential. When NNS Andoni was launched, Nigerians celebrated the SDB like it was a moon landing. We celebrated in the way we did because our notoriously slow government finally had something going, same thing with the Igirigi LAV.


The Private sector has always been far ahead of the government, this Nigerdock fortress was launched in 2010, 2 years before NNS Andoni......... the irony.


Nigeria only needs private sector participation in the defence industry, then watch that industry grow.


It isn't a question of learning to walk. Nigerian kids don't learn to walk, once out of the womb, we run, then we hustle hard.

leave those bagas, the JF17 was coded with the same C++ and this a code that any graduate from computer science can type in his sleep.

EVarn:
yes

thats good then, we can now send the virgin seekers off in a glorious cloud of smoke and debris. keep your eyes open for pics.

Henry120:
The local content initiative in Nigeria is a law. Nigerdock is the biggest local shipbuilding and marine engineering firm I know of, but there are more local companies in that sector, hundreds of them at onne and bonny. In 2012 they built and handed over to elf oil&ggas 2 locally designed and fabricated Oil Rigs.

That FPSO is world class by any top standard. I have no doubts in my mind that they can comfortably build Frigates and Corvettes if they decide to start building military grade vessels.

My hope is that in the land systems/mobility side, local companies like Proforce can grow in the shortest possible time to be able to compete with Streit group and poly technologies for the supply of MRAPs and LAVs to the military.

they wont need to compete with anybody if we can protect them. Nigeria must now play a protectionists role for her local manufacturers, Proforce, Nigerdockyard, IVM and a host of others. we need to get things done here.

DieVluit:
This map shows up the real slaves.

dude were do you get this your messed up maps from.
i mean the map itself is confusing in its configuration.

EVarn:
FLASH: Nigerian troops as at yesterday,escorted 3 czech made RM 70 MBRL to the frontlines,from the army base at Yola to the frontlines in Gwoza,Borno state.
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dude are we talking about MRLs?

Henry120:
Un-related

Bonga oil FPSO (floating production, storage and off-loading) platform built for Royal Dutch Shell by Nigerdock.


Imagine what Nigerdock would by able to design and build if they are sanctioned to build ships for the Nigerian Navy.

http://www.nigerdock.com/photos

wow a firm that can build this can build anything. i mean even an aircraft career. i know i heard we were working on local content in the oil industry but i never knew we ve gotten to this level. thumbs up to the guys at Niger dock.

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Lagos — An engineering and fabrication feat hitherto the exclusive preserve of Europe, America and Asia have been recorded in Nigeria with the work on the topsides for the Usan floating, production, storage and offloading (FPSO) vessel at Nigerdock.



At the weekend, the 2nd of a five stages load-out sequence involving the shipment of a total 7500 tons of fabricated steel was recorded.



While explaining the scope of work to those present at the load-out, Mr. Manssour Jarmakani, Executive Director, Nigerdock Plc, at the weekend, disclosed that the first load-out was recorded in April and that it involved the shipment of 981 tons of fabricated steel for the topside integration at the Ulsan yard, operated by Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) in Korea.



The 1st load-out of fabricated steel was for the 'riser support - type 1 & 4 and this was achieved in record time.



The 2nd load-out which commenced at the weekend involved the shipment of 1524 tons of fabricated steel for the 'crew boat landing stair', '10 number P1 and S1 lay down module' and the 'secondary riser support'.



It is expected that the third load-out of the water casing, crane pedestal and collation platform will take place in October 2009, while the 4th load-out involving shipment of the heli-deck support is expected to take place in January 2010.



The 5th and final load-out involving shipment of the mooring protection structure as well as all other topsides items is expected to take place in June 2010.
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