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jaxxy:
What is status quo? Iran is done, the leadership obliterated. The only thing is trump doesn't want to put a US stooge in power yet. He doesn't want to be mean.

it's not the end tho, It's only a pause to see how things go.

Status quo:

The ayatollah rules Iran
Iran controls the strait
Iran controls her nuclear material
Iran maintain her missile capability
Iran sells her oil in Chinese yuan
Iran mains leverage over her proxies in Iraq and Lebanon, and Yemen

How’s this status remarkably different from what we had 5 weeks ago. Oh.. Iran now tolls the strait and makes now money

QuinQQ:
US neither uses nor needs Hormuz. See below

I am glad you have highlighted the hypocrisy of the US with these photos, and how low the US brought the bar of victory in this war. Opening the strait of Hormuz doesn’t in any way mean victory for the us. It goes to show you that they failed in their set objectives and decided to celebrate victory for the reopening of the straits. A strait they said they did not need. How low can they go?

The strait is now tolled.. who won?

jaxxy:
Bro look at who is conceding, this is not hard to see. Iran was about to go back to the stone age. It would be gaza 2.0

Someone who went to war twith a set objectives and ended up getting a ceasefire to status quo, without achieving not one of the set objectives. Is that victory ?

QuinQQ:
I don't know why you keep posting this MEANINGLESS (to most people) photo.
Focus on the words below: "immediate, complete, and safe"

This news might interest you:

"The Road of Destruction": The damage inflicted on Iran will be compensated from the funds of the established investment fund.

"The damage that was caused to Iran during the conflict with the United States and Israel will be compensated from a special investment fund. This fund should be formed with the participation of interested financial institutions.

The authorities of the Islamic Republic plan to allocate part of the taxes, which will be collected in the future for the passage of ships through the Strait of Hormuz, for the restoration of the destroyed areas. This has already been mentioned in the ceasefire conditions put forward by Iran - together with Oman, the country should receive the right to impose duties on ships crossing the strait."

QuinQQ:
I don't know why you keep posting this MEANINGLESS (to most people) photo.
Focus on the words below: "immediate, complete, and safe"

It is not a meaningless photo. It tells you the state of affairs at the strait. There is no traffic accept Iran authorizes. And they must pay to pass. More importantly. They must pay in Yuan. Strategic defect for dollar

Trump begged other countries to assist in reopening the strait. None came to help. Would you like a photo of his tweets asking for help to reopen the strait?

jaxxy:
Underestimate Trump and the United States at ur own peril. They are not to be messed with.

I guess it was Trump that underestimated Iran. He found out the hard way

Damaged aircraft carrier
Destroyed long range radars
Destroyed reaper drones
Damaged invisible F35
Destroyed planes
Destroyed bases

fergie001:
Israel reacts


Benjamin Netanyahu
Prime Minister, State of Israel

From the leader of the opposition in Israel highlight the fact that Netanyahu and trump failed in their objectives:

🇮🇱🇺🇸🇮🇷"A catastrophe". In Israel, the opposition also criticizes the truce with Iran and Netanyahu, stating that the stated goals were not achieved.

"There has never been such a political catastrophe in our entire history. Israel was not even involved in making decisions concerning fundamental aspects of our national security. The military carried out all the tasks set, the public demonstrated amazing resilience, but Netanyahu suffered a political defeat, failed strategically and did not achieve any of the goals he himself set. It will take us years to repair the political and strategic damage that Netanyahu caused due to arrogance, negligence and a lack of strategic planning," wrote the leader of the main opposition party in Israel, Yair Lapid, in his Facebook post.

And the chairman of the National Security Committee of the Knesset, Tzvi Kahana, mocked Trump: "Donald, you left like a duck!"

Recall, American Democrats also criticized the truce due to Iran's continued control of the Strait of Hormuz.

QuinQQ:
Don't have time for meaningless argument. Argue with this below

This is the state of the strait of Hormuz as of now below.

All vessels are clustering together waiting to exit and enter the strait. They all must pay a toll. 2 million use in Chinese yuan

QuinQQ:
Soo, what did Trump tell them to open that they capitulated at the last minute? And why has Chinese pump price gone much higher than US since start of the war??

The strait was always open… you pay $2 million in Chinese yuan to cross. It is as simple as that. Even the French company CMA cgm paid to cross.

Strait as of now.

They all follow the protocol through Iranian waters

Dotherightthing:
Congrats to Trump and the whole world.

Iran proposed the ceasefire deal through Pakistan as they are NO match for Israel or Iran anytime anyday.

The MOST important thing is that Iran has agreed to open the Strait of Hormuz.

Any other point on the ceasefire deal is mere RANT.

US and Israel have achieved their goals in Iran significantly. A regime change has happened.

Iran has lost it's sovereignty as US and Israel can just stroll in anyhow and cut them to size. Iran has been reduced to Yemen.

I hope Iran does not collapse into civil war when all this is over.

Trump got this!

Shame on Nigerian muslims for cheering Iran on to their destruction.

I thought the US went into this war to stop nuclear program, stop missile program and change regime?

What happened?

Dotherightthing:
Where is the son of Ayatollah

Who currently heads the IRGC

Missiles and drones make up a military

Uranium or not, Iran CANNOT have NUKES

The Strait of Hormuz is back to what it was BEFORE THE WAR That is the real deal.

After US successfully entered Iran to rescue its pilots, they became more INVINCIBLE. They are STILL very much around.

Supreme leader Mojtaba (don of khomeini) rules and controls the affairs of Iran.

IRGC maintains leadership and cohesive structure despite all attempts to eliminate the leadership. They have maintained the fight and have a decentralized structure that makes elimination of a visible leader ineffective.

In contemporary warfare, missiles and tones have proven far more affective than aircraft carriers, fighter jets, and ships. Iran maintained escalatory initiative through her missiles, drones and her personnels.

Nuclear bombs are made from uranium. Iran still has her uranium. And just like North Korea, they could break out at any moment and declare nuclear status.

The strait of Hormuz is tolled by Iran in Chinese yuan. There’ is absolutely nothing American can do about it. After all trump tweeted that America has oil and doesn’t need the strait.

Well. Entering into Iran to rescue a pilot and losing this many aircraft’s tells a lot about Iran strength. How many aircraft did the US lose that night? I thought they said they had 100% control over the skies of iran

Dotherightthing:
Regime change was one of the objectives. It was achieved. It's military has been degraded leaving them with only missiles.

Iran averted their destruction by reopening the Strait of Hormuz

Iran CAN NEVER have NUKES

What else

Who rules Iran? The son of Ayatollah and IRGC

Degraded military? The have sustained missiles and drones strikes on the us military in the gulf and on Israel from the beginning of the war till today

No nuclear capabilities? They still have their enriched uranium despite the huffing and puffing from the hegemon and her minion.

Who controls the strait? Iran and oman , toll in Chinese yuan

Who left the region? The coalition forces a leftover from Iraq- have left the region together with some American military units.

Who lost prestige and invincibility? The USA

Dotherightthing:
All that is over now. The Strait of Hormuz is now FULLY open.

I repeat the strait was always open, but you had to pay a toll.

My shipment crossed the strait early in April after Macron declined to get involved with the Americans. The French carrier paid a toll I suppose.We all had to pay conflict surcharge of 1500usd and detention charge of 700usd per shipment

Dotherightthing:
Kudos to Pakistan for saving Iran from destruction.

Iran reached out to Pakistan to propose the deal to Trump.

I watched events unfold live on Al Jazeera early this morning.

Iran is no match of Israel not to talk about US.

The most important thing is that the Strait of Hormuz is going to be reopened. Any othe point in the ceasefire deal may be mere RANT.

US and Israel have already achieved their objectives in Iran significantly. A regime change has happened.

Also, Iran has lost its sovereignty and has been reduced to the level of Yemen. US and Iran can now stroll in and cut them to size when necessary.

I hope Iran doesn't collapse into civil war when all this over.

Trump got this.

Congratulations everyone.

Shame on Nigerian muslims for cheering Iran on to their destruction.

Not sure where you get your news from, both the objectives of the US and Israel were to destroy the republic of Iran, destroy her nuclear capabilities.and destroy her missile capabilities. They failed in these objectives. And it was a miserable failure for a might nuclear power huffing and puffing with two aircraft carriers.

The orange man wanted the ceasefire so badly because he need a way out of the fight.. he was sacking his generals. It was obvious to all that he was failing in his objectives.

adabaraabdul:
Some people consume news with sentiments and emotions. It is clear that the best option for US is a ceasefire and they had to quickly adopt it at this time on Irans 10 point agenda not Trump’s!. We are waiting for unclassified reports on the failed attempt to steal Iran’s 60% enriched Uranium.

Judging by all appearances, Iran has achieved an interim victory over Epstein's coalition. Yes, during the two-week ceasefire, the Americans will reinforce their forces in the Persian Gulf, but these are forces for a ground operation, which Orange Dad is unlikely to dare to undertake. The risks are too high, and Washington's Middle Eastern vassals, who are very tired of war, will start grumbling loudly.

One can only admire the courage of Iran and its people, who withstood colossal missile and bomb strikes and inflicted such damage on the enemy. First of all, of course, it's image and economic damage, but at the same time, America hasn't lost so many aircraft in a long time, and the American aircraft carrier groups have been largely isolated by the actions of the IRGC.

If Trump accepts Tehran's 10 demands, which include reparations for the damage suffered, it will be a complete defeat for Epstein's coalition. I'm not even mentioning uranium enrichment - Iran will very soon announce that it has nuclear weapons. As they say, courage conquers cities, in this case it forces peace. Let's remember Orange Dad as he was yesterday, threatening to destroy Persian civilization overnight. I'm sure that until the end of Trump's term, everyone he meets will be reminding him of those words.

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madridguy:
All of them are not serious. I don't think any party got what they went into the war for... Just destruction of life and property.

Iran all she wanted from this war, and the republic of Iran will not take orders from the US and her minion:

Nuclear capabilities
Tolled strait of Hormuz
Missile capabilities
Higher oil price
Selling her oil in Chinese yuan (petroyuan)
An islamic republic
Limited presence of the US in the gulf
And. Prestige for standing up to a nuclear hegemon

QuinQQ:
See him.😅
Trump said OPEN HORMUZ or else.
Iran that said repeatedly it'd open Hormuz ONLY IF there is a final end to the war with guarantees they'd never be attacked again!

Strait has always been open. You had to pay 2 millions usd in Chinese yuan to pass and also show that the payment for the oil or gas was made in Chinese yuan.. Beilliant!

NairalandBishop:
Taqeeya experts!
You think we don't know what Iran is doing? Shebi Iran said they will never accept a ceasefire to reopen Hormuz, only permanent end to the war. Why agree to a ceasefire now .

Also, I thought you all said Donald Trump has been talking to himself all these while. No negotiations are ungoing.
Iran should have left it that way na and see what would become of the remains of the weakened regime.The US would have bombed the hell out of them, PRAISE BE TO ALLAH

No matter how you try to spin this, US lost the war:
I ran controls the strait
Iran and Oman tolls the strait
Iran has no limitations on her missile program
Iran still retains the enriched uranium
Iran nuclear program is not undermined

The United States has achieved nothing but cost, and loss of reputation, and human cost too. They might lose their bases in gulf countries as they have lost in Iraq

HacheNoire:
You will be fine. Take heart. Time heals.

Let’s me ask you a question to know how conversant you are with foreign affairs. You can always use AI tools and search engines.

In which war did the USS Abraham Lincoln and USS Gerald Ford retreat from active combat zone?

You have 5 minutes to answer!

The answer is Us-Israel-Iran war

YeyeGbami:
Those who chickened out are those who were shielding their infrastructures with humans.

If dem born them well make dem no open the strait for all ships.

Iran with Oamn have absolute rule over the strait and have imposed tolls. What a way to win.

Finally one nation has stood up to the might of America. They fought back without fear. They fought hard.

IRAN WON

Saturnalia:
Iran has prepared wonderful surprise packages for Trump's possible madness.

My sincere prayer is that Trump should never back down so that Amerika can be demystified once and for all.

Well… he has already “chickened out” as usual.

Iran joins the list of nations that stood up to the might of America.. Not only that, Iran now controls the strait and imposed tolls. What a way to win!

Checkwell:
This governor must have been a very serious student while in school. He takes things seriously.

Ski goggles on forest guards! That’s just the height of mockery. The whole kit looks clownish! Gosh!

“No system without a flaw”

Universal truth?

autoez:
What kind of future is Nigeria breeding?

Boss… I think sey na only me see am. All these ego-driven dudes trying so hard to outshine each other. I can not wrap my head around why anyone would follow VDM and a lord. They poorly represent Nigeria: thug-looking, rough, semi-illiterate, dodgy in every sense of the word; and “Agbero”” in style. How these dudes are role models in this society weak me.

Can Nigeria be redeemed?

Topman7:
Commendable move. These are the sort of moves you see from a rising space power.

I asked AI ChatGPT to describe Nigeria in 2095, and it described a space-faring superpower with established Nigerian colonies on various planets.

It described a Nigeria that is developed and advanced, a global cultural hegemon with interplanetary influence, a manufacturing giant, and a world leader in advanced AI and Quantum Computing.

Them for use the money do NEPA. When light dey, small industries go rise. What’s the use of satellite when we never master the basic technologies?

China has made technology transfer so easy yet we find it hard to implement such here because no NEPA. Try set up one spaghetti or indomie production line, NEPA GO SHOW YOU SHEGE!