₦airaland Forum

Rich4god:
I don't seem to understand how the fire got the victims.... Did it just burst out all over the forest t the same time...

I wonder too...

But then... It's late summer Time in Europe... Equivalent our own dry season.

Small fires spread fast cos lots of trees she'd their leaves

And if they come to the table to talk....

The northern folks will still reject all the recommendations like they did the national conference report

ghostofsparta:
I am in total disagreement with your conclusion on taboos as based on the make-believe story you narrated except for the one that involved your relative. My deliberate usage of the term 'taboo' isn't suggestive of the scenarios you cited or similarly related to, I used it in order to imply a required act of discipline for certain conditions specific to the taboos of your 'odu' to be satisfied by adherence because for as long as it is satisfied one destined path would be fulfilled in due time. I could have employed the term 'condition' but I didn't want to. I intentionally used taboo, but you mistaken it for taboo in it generic meaning. In respect to Yoruba esotericism, I will say there are two kinds of taboo with their respective varying dynamics. The taboo you are referencing is only exclusive for those who seek short-cut means to a solution (isegun) which is different from the revealed taboo specific to the Odu that begat the Ori of the male who is being initiated into the Ifa spirituality. The one you cited don't require or involve divinities 95% of the time as it is purely craft of manipulating aphorized axioms with natural matters to bring about intended result, an ageless craft that has being tried and tested by our unknown ancestors passed down over the generation i.e. isegun (but mostly gleaned from Ifa body of knowledge) while the other taboo involved both i.e. isegun but as prescribed by the divinities involved/concerned regarding the matter/problem/issues to be solved/fixed/cured/reversed etc. .

You're right. The biblical Samson's taboo of not shaving his hair came to my mind as I read through. That one definitely isn't ritual cos it was specified at him before he was born.. unlike others that take on such in adulthood.

I'm so sorry I didn't see your angle earlier. No be my fault nah.. our minds have been conditioned to think everything "fetish" is evil. I will give your post a thought & get back to you.

Thanks

I thought.... You know... Even Samson .... Though he didn't break his taboo on his own.... Delilah seduced him and got the Philistines to shave off his hair.

The thing I'm not comfortable with is... Taboo... Whether ori/eleda/soul specified or oshole/ritual specified... If you don't break it knowingly or unknowingly ... Another person (ones wife , friend, enemy, brother or child) can 'help' one break it as in case of Delilah-Samson.

This brings up the question of whether it is worth it for a person to know his 'ori' specified taboo... Cos what you don't know cannot hurt you.

If Samson didn't know his taboo, he wouldn't have suffered & died that way... Eyes plucked out, premature death et Al... In the same vein, if he didn't know his taboo, he would have been shaving his hair as a kid... He wouldn't have done those mighty works.... And the Philistines might even be oppressing him with taxes & levies.

Now taking the scenario personal..... I'm wondering... Is it worth it for someone to know his ori taboo? Cos what you don't know cannot hurt you as badly as it would hurt if you knew it and knowingly/unknowingly break it.

Is it not better to patiently wait for one's appointed time to come for one to prosper instead of digging out a taboo that will most likely kill one later?

I never liked Ojukwu.

He's an Idiot. He had chances and advices to finish the war quick & fast but instead, he wasted lot of time and made the wrong decisions.

Btw... I'm staunchly​ Biafra.

ghostofsparta:
generally males undergoing circumstances that defy usual 'solution through divination' process are required to se-Fa and subsequently te-Fa within which the dos and don't that are specific to him will be revealed, his taboos would be explained and why, as well as whatever rites that are necessary would be done

Deep inside me... My mind tells me ... It is only people who have done one ritual/incantations or the other that have taboo.

Unfortunately... In life, no one can ALWAYS BE TOO CAREFUL. at one point or the other, a taboo will unavoidably be broken.

That reminds me of the story of a guy who was jobless for long... His "successful" friend introduced him to one baba who asked him to drop money for a live snake and return in a week time.

At the end of the week, the baba have the man a belt, nail and clay dish. He asked the guy to keep the belt under his bed and place the dish on the floor under the belt and must serve akara on the plate every night... Simple task? Isn't it?

So guy did as baba said. At the midnight, the belt would turn to snake, eat the akara and turn back to belt. Bobo started making serious money via contracts he knew he doesn't have to execute.

So about 2 years later.... One day.... day..day.Rain fell all day. When it was in the night, guy realized he didn't have akara in the house so he got into his car and started driving around looking for akara to buy but cos of heavy rain and subsquent flood, he couldn't find akara to buy. He shrugged and drove back home... Shebi it's one night... I'll buy double akara tomorrow to make up. He went to bed and dozed off

At midnight... The belt turned to snake.... It didn't see akara on the dish....

Next day, guy woke up feeling movements in his body... He checked under the bed... He couldn't find the belt again. He hurried to baba with weird movement feeling inside his body.... Baba said when the snake didn't see akara, it got angry and entered body. ... Baba says it would be impossible to get the snake out as it now prefers it's living​ host to the akara it used to eat before.

A week later... Guy started vomiting blood and died...!!...

That's basically what taboos does to those who take them upon themselves. ... One can observe a taboo for ten years but a day will certainly come when one will unknowingly, unfortunately and haplesly break the taboo. .... And you can never know how grave the consequences will be.

So doing consultations to find one's taboos is like looking for trouble. I have a distant uncle whose taboo is not to cross under vertically hanged wire lines. ... One day... In hurry, he unknowingly crossed under one with and fell seriously sick afterwards.

Fetish matter is not child play. At the end of the day.. no matter how careful one have been for years... One small mistake will throw person into frying pan.

The gods don't forgive.

This thing can't speed

banmee:
It is not ok. No one can take the law into their own hands. Show where it says you can in the Constitution. Anyone who thinks that way is as bad as the criminal because you both break the law.

U must be a thief for supporting stealing

If Satan has a wife... One the judgment day, I won't be suprised if she comes out and plead for God to forgive all his sons cos he made some people learn their lessons and therefore, God should show Satan mercy....

The law is clear.... Like Malaysia drug law... Don't do crime.... If u do drugs and u catch... No stories... Go to the gallows.

We all know thieve may get jungle Justice in Nigeria..
.. anyone who goes to steal and is catch... Whatever happens to him is his problem

Very beautiful woman.

Na she dey make me watch naija Olympic women basketball back then.

Her beauty is mersmerizing

"Cameroon were defeated 1-0 by France in the final thanks to a Thierry Henry goal in the 97th minute of extra time. "

That match was very hot.

The refree should have blown whistle sef. Henry's goal seemed offside.

I cried that night cos... I felt Africa was cheated

Modified..

meezynetwork:
Ukwuani people are usually very heartless and wicked. Devilish people. They are the highest cultivators of Indian hemps.

Don't generalize bro.

I'm from that side & I have very soft heart.

unlimitedgrace4:
Look repainted?....dis is 100% repainted...

Bros... Your bluntness can kill person....

Desyner:
@ghostofsparta
Let me try and rephrase.
I was wondering if you could shed light on the form of money ritual or medicine where the good fortunes (e.g a new Job) of the person being sacrifized or victimized will coincide or - to put it in a more direct form - lead to success for the one doing the money ritual (the oppressor).

That's spiritual robbery

Repercussions go plenty for this one.

Even if successful, ..The. headache, fears and mental self-torment involved isn't worth it.

The money will buy you big golden bed .... But you won't be able to sleep for one minute on it.

That's why some men abandon their flashy mansions to go sleep in hotels.

Plateau/Benue people are very nice. ...

And I love their names....

John Nnaasong....!!...

chukel:
it will be nice if u stay away from naija used accord 2000-2002. Accord is one of the Japanese that doesn't really tolerate abuse. Most of that particular accord model are well abused in naija. Incessant transmission problems to suspension issues. You will hardly get a well maintained one.

I don't know why I hate the car.