European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:21pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
This is crazy... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:50pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
Leyqute: I’m not even that concerned about the press. It’s the defence that is leaking goals that is more worrying. And Maguire is at the center of that.
And the stupid coach has no idea that this is the problem. We were trying to press and that's what caused the first goal, our press just wasn't coordinated... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:49pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
See how clueless he looks... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:48pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
What exactly is the fraud shouting on the touch line? Is he telling them about DNA or how lucky they are to play for us?
Ole you're mad... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:47pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
eph12: Our press have been comical at best for some time now For ages now... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:46pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
slimghost: Magwaya has to be our worst CB signing ever I called it since...That fraud shouldn't be on our bench. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:45pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
Sack Ole... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:44pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
What sort of rubbish is this?
Na so we luckily escape Atalanta...Everyday is not a holiday...
Sack the bastard... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:43pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
God help us... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:41pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
eph12: Why won't one of Tom or Fred just stay put in front of the defenders? What are they looking for in the attacking third against a pacy team like LFC? Ole no sabi...It was due to uncoordinated press simple... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:40pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
slimghost: I am not blaming any player again. It’s the manager! He is a full nitwit Ole is shit... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:38pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:37pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
slimghost: MCFred don’t shield nothing! So why do we keep playing them? Ole sees a different game... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:37pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
McTominay has regressed... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:35pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
Rubbish |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:35pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
Ole out... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:34pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
Bruno should have done better... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:51pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
liveLongNprospa: You have not said how Shaw is better. When you say eye test, what does shaw do better than Ben? This isn't about you watching a certain percentage but even if you are saying you watched 70% of Chelsea games then you should be able to list these things easily. Does shaw cross better or defend better or attack spaces better or provide width better or dribble better or have you noticed shaw is a better 1v1 defended than Ben?
These are things you should be saying so I'm waiting. Build up play, defensively and support to his winger... Shaw has not lived up to his standard last season and I have admitted it... Take Lukaku for instance, he has scored a couple of goals this season but after detailed analysis you'd realize is just in some games while he has misfire for the most part. It's the same with Mount... Stats won't point all that out just the same way stats will say Pogba and Bruno have been excellent whereas, they has only been excellent in a couple of games... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:34pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:29pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
KingAlabi: If we loose I will avoid this thread personally because of you, make you no go begin pour your emotions on me.  Hehehe You no dey too support Ole again so, you no get wahala... Na Melody still dey blink like PHCN |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:19pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
slimghost: I have started drinking already so I can handle whatever Ole and his crew serve us today. Baba I don do 3 bottles already, whatever happens I am ready... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:07pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
slimghost: This is wrong bro. I think he had injury issues for a season or so. The other season, Mou didn’t play him or he wasn’t fit. Look at his stats over the last 5 seasons. I intentionally used the last 5 seasons. Shaw is not better than Chillwell. Both by stats and by eyes. One good season doesn’t make you a good player. Well, it's down to preference if you read me, I acknowledged that Chilwell has been better this season but it's too early to make a statement...It's like saying Bayern are favorite for the UCL based on their impressive performance in the UCL this season but we all know it's early days, loss of form, injuries or poor selection can ruin their season... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:53pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
slimghost: He was plaqued with injuries for 6 years?. Hmmmm For majority and we al know how his relationship with Mou was like... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:49pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
slimghost: I didn’t conclude just from one season. look at it from their performances over like 6 seasons. Man is better than Shaw. Shaw had a great season last season that’s why he made it ahead of him at the Euros which is normal. Form is temporal, class is permanent 6 Seasons? Shaw that was plaqued with injuries? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:46pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]I have personally watched them on this thread use stats to rate Bruno over Kevin
When it favours them, they use stats
When it doesn't favour them, they ditch stats and use their eyes as proof
Double standards everywhere [/color] Definitely not me...Ask around... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:46pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
liveLongNprospa: I would advice Patrickmuf to avoid replying this  I don't do stats when I can watch two players week in, week out and form an opinion... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:44pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
slimghost: My brother, let’s be honest. Shaw is not a better left back than Chillwell abeg. Man is too inconsistent and unserious. This season? Yes but it's too early to say who is the best in the world or in which position... Off last season, will you rate Chilwell higher than Shaw? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:43pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
liveLongNprospa: Okay without using stats, tell us how Shaw is better than Chilwell. It should be easy for you Did you watch them last season? I watched over 70% of Chelsea games and 80% of Manchester United games so I can categorically drop an informed opinion... This season isn't even half way gone and for some part, Chilwell was glued to the bench so, what else to you need me to tell you? Early days bro... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:38pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
liveLongNprospa: But Shaw's unavailability is a cross he has to bear and even when he has been available, he's only been good for a season infact I'd say half a season because I don't remember shaw being great throughout last season.
The same excuse can be used for Chilwell who also had a bad season which can be put on moving to a new club. I mean the form shaw is showing this season really isn't a surprise to anyone as we have seen it before from him.
Stats are not always bad as they expose the agenda aspect of rating players against themselves. Stats does not tell the whole story... Players might get injured off a very bad tackle which isn't their making, so, you'd be wrong if you pinned it on them... Go to Chelsea thread and see what those who are here yapping their mouths said when Alonso was benching Chilwell... It's not even worth it to argue further because those who are saying we are emotional are themselves the culprits... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:33pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]Bring out the records here and compare them
Very simple.
That's proof, and not emotions[/color] That's a prove, that you're not using your eyes and watching games... Stats tell a whole lotta lies... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:31pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
eph12: LS has regressed this season, no doubt about that. He was better last season, that's a fact This is what any reasonable person should say but then, trust folks to point stats to prove what was visible to even the visually impaired... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:28pm On Oct 24, 2021 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]Can you show me the stats between Ronaldinho and Salah [within the same period? NO
Can you show me the stats between Gnarby and Ribery [within the same period?
I could go on and on with your examples, but it's not worth it.
Shaw and Chilwell are playing in the same league, and were starters in their respective teams within the same period. That's a good metric for comparison
Which one be Salah and Ronaldinho?[/color] Is Bruno better than KDB? Is Gundogan better than KDB? Let's talk stats... |