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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:06pm On May 28, 2021
handelex:
Let me repeat, Mourinho’s first season that we won Carabao and Europa league, nobody complained, we were all happy and celebrated those cups. The complaints started at the end of his second season when we went trophyless and finished 2nd.
Bro, just dig, get a shovel and you'd see that some folks here started criticizing him even when we won before some of us joined the train...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:04pm On May 28, 2021
handelex:
Nobody lamented when Mou was winning, stop lying unnecessarily.
Are you new here? I was one of those that lamented...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:03pm On May 28, 2021
eph12:
We didn't have problem with the DM na. Abi is it not this last final we're talking about here? What was Matic supposed to do that didn't happen? Abi na DM go create and score goals?
McTominay might not been been responsible for their goal but that guy is bang average, I counted more than 4-5 times he should have passed the ball but he rather runs with the ball close to the player he intends to pass to because he doesn't trust his passing...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:51pm On May 28, 2021
eph12:
We could have started Matic, lost the midfield and still blame Ole for not doing the opposite
Fred wasn't fot to start from reports...Thus the best option for a lone DM was and is Matic...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:41pm On May 28, 2021
eph12:
Even top coaches that won the league are sacked the next season at Chelsea. They sack for any reason.

You talked about how the mentality can only be developed by winning trophies, meanwhile Klopp and lfc went from losing finals to becoming European and league champions. They lost a final o, but they won the next season. Mr trophy in the mud
You admitted you're being sarcastic so, feel free to hit em from the rare...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:39pm On May 28, 2021
Eph12, this is not the time to be sarcastic, you might be hit by an ICBM armed with a nuclear warhead...Come out plain, we #TeamOleOut are not smiling, we are ready to shoot that any plane flying a banner of support for the Scandinavian fraud...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:35pm On May 28, 2021
eph12:
No. You just won't catch me lamenting over it. We have lost finals and we will lose more. No big deal there. It's how we lost that matters to me
How did we lose?

Maguire was out injured, why? He has been overplayed...

Rashford was over used this season and it took a toll on him...

Sevilla are not a pacy side, why not start Matic knowing fully well that McTominay and Fred need each other to effectively function?

Why did we have players on the bench? Do you think VDB is that bad? Even Mata could have fared we considering the pace of the game...

Diallo?

Has James ever looked as bad as Rashford was that night?

You just like to be the lone man on the other side in an any discourse, I know people like you so I can understand...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:30pm On May 28, 2021
eph12:
Even Brendan Rogers the bottler? Wawu. Won the FA cup but lost the matches that will send him to the champions league. Nice own goal
That's Leicester City, they are not in our class, normally, a Leicester fab should be more than satisfied with a 5th place finish, they're seriously punching above their weight...

You think if Brendan Rodgers was coach of Chelsea he'll be their manager as we type now?

You have a penchant for comparing apples and oranges...We spend more on transfer fees and wages, have better facilities at Carrington yet your benchmark when talking about Manchester United is Arsenal and Leicester...My God, wetin I dey read for here!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:26pm On May 28, 2021
I guess City going after Grealish means Foden, Sterling, KDB and the rest are bad...Una go misrepresent person argument start to argue against wetin you understand even if your inability to comprehend a straight forward post is questionable...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:24pm On May 28, 2021
MRTA7:
If the rumours about Oblak is remotely possible I'm willing to add my own money to the cash+DDG for Oblak fund.
It will be a massive signing...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:18pm On May 28, 2021
The fear of Fred being a squad player is what’s making eph misyarn...

For him, rather than we sign a top class DM, Fred should continue...It is what it is, blind love for his favorite...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:15pm On May 28, 2021
eph12:
That's why I said Ole has tried. The team is shit, you're right
As I said, you just dey clutch at straws, you don't have a point...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:14pm On May 28, 2021
eph12:
many chords actually. this season you're celebrating a trophy, next season you are struggling to enter top 6. That's not what I want to see for this team, maybe some just want to shout up ManU
How much have we spent in between? You think if Arteta was given 300m he wouldn't have done better than go to Madrid to sign players on loan or sign Willian on a free?

Your argument is faulty, you are pointing fingers at Arsenal without looking at the transfer war chest available to Arsenal and that available to Ole...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:12pm On May 28, 2021
eph12:
Where I disagree with you is the state if this team.

I see how winning the FA cup last season was important to their winning mentality. No wonder they didn't collapse this season
Don't tell me you did not notice what winning the EPL did for Leicester City, since then, have they remained the same?

I already knew you'll come here with the Arsenal line of defense, one Ole brought forth some weeks ago in a bid to mask his failures so, I ask, what of Atletico and all the other examples of teams who kicked on after winning a trophy or two? The Arsenal example doesn't hold water, not at all...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m):
Expert17:
cheesy grin

@ bolded ....strikes a chord
Another one bites the dust...The virus of mediocrity carried by the Scandinavian fraud has found its way to his blood cells...

I talk am say demons dey here and we must work hard to exorcize the demons of mediocrity that keeps devouring our once revered folks...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:33pm On May 28, 2021
eph12:
But patrick my guy has been telling us how we don't have players
Baba e be like you start your highness early because I don't know what in my comment is so difficult for you to comprehend...Abeg make person help me interpret for vernacular abeg.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:30pm On May 28, 2021
eph12:
As it stands now, we need a RB, CB, DM, CM, RW, ST plus new coach to compete next season right? We go dey alright
Are you okay with Wan-Bissaka playing all the games?

Do you trust Lindelof who is slow and shaky? Bailly is fine but he is mostly reported injured even though he thinks otherwise...

Your Fred and his partner are shit and should be squad players...

Na today we start to talk about RW?

With Cavani staying we don't really need to go all out for a striker unless we have a chance to sign any of Haaland or Mbappe...

Who has mentioned CM? Didn't you see that my mention of Koke is subject to Pogba?

You go just quote person out of context and I know why, na Fred dey make your body shake...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:25pm On May 28, 2021
eph12:
We don't need to compete on all fronts at the moment. We crawl, walk, run then fly. Building the mentality is very important at this time than any trophy if not we can win a trophy this season and collapse next season.

We have these many problems and we did more than many other teams in the league, got to the FA semi final, got to EL final. Ole has tried with the garbage and limitations he has to work with
You just dey find argument if not, I don't know what's too difficult in understanding that we had the team (starting 11 + bench) to beat Villarreal if only made the right subs and pushed for the winner rather than banking on penalties...

And what exactly do you mean by "building a winning mentality is important than any trophy" This one na talk? Do you know what title wins does to the mentality of players?

Atalanta and Milan will beat Juventus in the league but when it comes to a final, they'll crumble...You don't think Juventus players are more used to the big nights and are more relaxed?

Bilbao will beat Barcelona in the league but crumble in the Copa Del Rey final.

You are talking of winning mentality and you conveniently think trophies are not key...I weak for your argument.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:10pm On May 28, 2021
eph12:
So we have a good team to win the EL? After you saying all the players are bad? I don confuse sef. Well no need
You didn't understand that post...

I was looking ahead to next season with that post where I assessed our options and alternatives...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 11:56am On May 28, 2021
Havertz10:
For instance, if you are playing someone that is very tactical, you have to prepare for it, makes preparation difficult, it's like chess, this move will cause that move, not all coaches are like that

Pep can tell a player the only places that he should shoot the ball, the only places that he should cross from so the striker knows that once that player is there, they will cross the ball, so when you want to play against a coach like that, you prepare your team to counter his tactics, rush kdb, leave fernandinho, that kind thing

People like zidane do the simple things of arranging formation and setting game plan but aren't tactical, you wouldn't see player movements during the game and be blown away, no manager will have sleepless night preparing to play a team managed by zidane, the guy no get ideas.
The current Madrid team is shit but Zidane conquered LA Liga with them and almost replicated the same feat this season...I always thought he was overrated just because of the team at his disposal but winning La Liga ahead of Barcelona after the departure of Ronaldo and with an aging team was incredible...Zidane saw to the destruction of Bayern, PSG, Juventus, Atletico Madrid (The best Atletico team in the past 10 years or more) on his way to winning the UCL thrice in a row, 3 times o! Beating the very best including Pep, he couldn't have done that if he wasn't tactically astute...

Talking about Chess, no way will an amateur beat a pro, it takes high level concentration and intentional moves to win. Almost all GMs have played thousands of games so, before you make a move, they already know what you are up to and can easily counter your move whilst reami9potent on the attack themselves...

Zidane is like a GM, he has been in the game as a player and now manager, for so long so much so that he makes everything look too easy hence the reason you think he is not as good as his peers...

If you play Chess, I can school you for free... cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 11:08am On May 28, 2021
Havertz10:
among his peers? He is clueless, i'm not saying that he is useless as a manager, i'm just saying that if you are going to play his team, you don't think about him

If you want to play pep, you know who pep is, so you plan for him

Same with most top coaches, zidane doesn't have that kind of reputation.
I am struggling to make sense of the bolded.

Are you saying Tuchel just took to the field without preparing his charges for what Madrid will throw at them?

What exactly do coaches have to think about Pep that they don't think of other top teams they face?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:54am On May 28, 2021
eph12:
So which is it? The players are not good enough or the coach is not good enough to go past Villareal? Or both?
Sometimes, you ask very funny questions, from the post you quoted, isn't it obvious he is saying we have a team good enough to beat Villarreal but Ole messed up?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:52am On May 28, 2021
eph12:
We can't complain about the all the players and question the coach in the same breadth. Apparently he has done ok since the players he has to work with are not good enough
You don't get the point obviously...

Our team is not good enough to compete on all fronts and against the very best as we are lacking in some positions and in others, we do not have sufficient cover that's generally accepted here but the starting 11 and bench for that UEL final was good enough to trounce Villarreal unless you want to argue otherwise...

We do need a fast and reliable CB doesn't mean Lindelof and Bailly are pants, Laporte and Ake are not Pants but City still have Stones and Dias and that's why an injury to any of them is not glaring when you watch City...

Wan-Bissaka is limited going forward and most times, we face teams that sit back, having a more attacking option is to our favor...

McFred are both limited on the ball, watch Rodri and Fernandinho and you'd see the gulf in class and technical abilities...McFred can be squad players, I'd have no qualms with that...

Pogba for all his abilities remains a big issue, he isn't discipline enough to play in a pivot so, why not get a player who is more suited for that role like Koke or anyone? If Pogba stays, we then have to get a very competent DM...

RW has always been an issue, Greenwood is a ST and should play there and not be tossed around like Rashford who looked lost out on the left a position where he used to do so much damage...Maybe the return of Martial will see him step up...

I hope you get my point sha.
Politics › Re: APC: Rally For Ayade In Calabar (Pictures) by patrickmuf(m): 9:40am On May 28, 2021
offiong187:
Am hearing somebody have japa with the 5m they gave for transport. ��
Mike?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:01pm On May 27, 2021
BARAJ92:
This squad is better than the current set of players that play the final
Tell me more, you've got jokes...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m):
hoopLA:
Bro ephesus
That Villareal team wasn't better than a championship side.
They were SCARED of United and didn't even try to counter attack us.
As useless and stupįd as most of that team.is individually, they really had no business allowing that game to go past regulation.
I want hear from him what he really means before I can respond to him...

We definitely need improvement in some positions but as for yesterday, we clearly had the better 11 and better bench, just a more stupid coach...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:56pm On May 27, 2021
eph12:
Are you not the same person that listed all the players and how they are not good enough?
What exactly do you mean?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:16pm On May 27, 2021
handelex:
God can't help us here Patrick. The ball is in the court of our owners angry
If he isn't sacked, he can as well relegate us and I'll care less...

What else does he need to do to get the sack?

Ole is a bloody fraud...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:58pm On May 27, 2021
schurley:
With Sir Ole on the wheels, you never can tell cheesy cheesy cheesy
God forbid bad thing...
Politics › Re: Farouk Yahaya: El-Rufai Congratulates New Chief Of Army Staff by patrickmuf(m): 7:36pm On May 27, 2021
Philomiina:
We hope and pray he last in power service if he's a good person
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m):
Why is the debate about the failure of DDG to save a penalty?

Lindelof was stupid to have lost his marker, nothing De Gea would have done for that goal...

Rashford was guilty of missing a very good chance and was shit throughout but guess what? He finished the game. Maybe some of you didn't watch the game so I should let you guys in on what happened...

As soon as it got to extra time, shame catch me because Villarreal were that bad yet took us all the way to a shootout...At that point, they were more deserving of the win as underdogs...

We lost because for the second season in a row, Ole showed lack of faith in his bench even after it was strengthened...If I was the owner of Manchester United, I'd have asked him to give me one reason why he thinks I should spend a penny signing more players when it's obvious he wouldn't play them...Ole is a fraud, if he had any shame he'd have resigned by now...

Aurelio De Laurentiis would have sacked Ole via a Tweet at the end of 90mins...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:07pm On May 27, 2021
nitrogen:
Juve has sacked their DNA manager. Utd to do same shortly.
For emphasis, Pirlo won the Coppa Italia and Italian Super Cup...

We have to make a statement of intent showing we don't dine with failure by sacking Ole...

The fraud said the season was a failure, instead of stopping there, he said we will push on next season with new additions...Push on with who? He should be sacked, that guy is a conman, even after a disappointing season, he still had to subconsciously appeal to the emotions of fans by saying we will do better next season with more additions as if to deflate the attention from his woeful coaching to the lack of quality on the bench which does not fly for me...

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