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I am a part 4 student of Acoounting. Right from my secondary school level, i have had a deep interest in financial accounting. I carried this interest into university and when I wrote my ICAN Ats 2 exam, i was the best in FA. But when I got to part 2, i did some courses in Economics and i started having interest in Economics, especially macro economics- public finance. I had the highest mark in one of my Economics exam. I even considered crossing to Economics but at the end, i didnt. In part 3, i started taking courses in Management accounting and my interest for it was aroused especially due to the fact that it involves helping business make important financial and non financial decisions. LAter on, i learnt about management consulting, which i see as an extension of what management accounting is about. I started reading into management consulting and recently, I particiupated in the CIMA global challenge, acting as a management consultant to a fictitious oil company. Now, am taking a course in public finance and my passion for it is being re kindled. Also, i attended a conference organised by NIM on investment management. As i learn more about investment banking, my passion for FA, especially financial analysis and investment decisions was once more increased. Presently, i am in a dilemna on which of these three(3) to choose from. I am in my part 4 already and i will soon leave the system. Also, am almost done with ICAn and i need to know the professional exam i should write next. My major considerations are; 1. i want a career/work that is not monotonous. I want a career where you meet with new challenges everyday. 2. I need a career that deals with decision making and not mere repetitive cycles. 3. I need a career which is more about being assigned a particular task with a time frame. Not a career of 8am -6pm everyday whether there is work or not. I prefer one in which there is flexibility of time on the work as long as the task is done. I need people working in these career paths already to give me advice on which of these 3 i should go into considering the 3 considerations listed above. Thanks in anticipation

hushmail:
mercy J was right in supporting Adeboye. Politics shld nt feature in religion, especially christian religion

Christ warned his followers about it. It will be DIFFICULT for a rich man to make heaven bt IMPOSSIBLE for a politician

which version of d bible is that

Alwaystrue: Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath. When you look at all the commands of God with the eyes of love, you will realise the importance of the meaning of the commandment.

All it basically means is this:

1. When we come to Christ, heavy laden and burdened, He gives us rest for He is the Lord of teh Sabbath. When we rest from our labours and instead use the strength of Christ to live instead of our strength, we are enjoying the Sabbath.

2. When we rest in Him and trust completely in Him, we are at rest. Read Hebrews 4.

3. The commandment simply means (as Jesus said all the commandments are hinged on love) love yourself enough to rest....stop chasing after this and that. Everyone needs a recharge. Many don't even rest their bodies and start falling ill. God had it all covered.

4. Jesus did not abolish the commandments, he gave it its full expression which involved doing good...that was why when the Pharisees were fighting Him for healing on the Sabbath or when they accused his disciples for plucking corn on the Sabbath, he answered them in such a way to shut them up.

5. If you are talking about days of worship, sorry the early church met every day. Some churches even have services everyday for those that can attend and not limited to Sunday.

6. It doesn't stop us resting too on Saturday anyway. This is something that is very good to be imbibed. Rest, have time for family, use the day to have personal time to fellowship with family. It has been eroded today. Families don't even have time for each other.

When Jesus said all the laws are based on love. I struggled with what Sabbath meant till I understood it in the eyes of love.
Jesus was never legalistic. HE IS THE TRUTH. That is why everything He did and said is TRUE. If only we take time to allow the eyes of our understanding to be opened, we will fully understand how much all these are Spiritual and not just of the letter.

whatever spiritual application does nt nullify its application.Does d fact dat God compares adultery to going away from God means adultery is now ok?

hushmail: mr Op keep d sabbath holy z 4 jews nt xtians

christiandom recognises d authority of world govts n dats why in arab countries Friday z worship day, in Israel saturday is worship day while in many western countries like 9ja is sunday

can u quote d section of Nigeria constitution dat says dat sunday is Nigeria's worship day

ITbomb: .
There is a big difference between what I said and what you understood.
First, understand that if you say you worship God only in the church then you really are deceiving yourself because God is Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. That means all your life and activities should be a continual worship of God everyday and anywhere.

However, Christians of like minds agreed to meet on the first day the week to do joint worship, teaching and exhorting one another Acts 20:7, 1 Cor 16:2

The first day of the week was also the day the Holy Spirit came upon the disciples.

If you are still under the law, good for you cos I'm not, I am under the new dispensation of grace and love. John 13:34, Rom 13:8-10.

If you must know, early Christians were still going to the temple on the Sabbath to partake in worship. That is why they set aside the day after Sabbath to meet among themselves and reflect on the teachings of Jesus Christ.

And for the verse in James you referred me, please read and understand the concluding paragraph, v12 and 13. What it meant there is that if you are to apply the law as it is written without mercy then mercy will not be shown to you. However for us that are under the mercy of Jesus Christ, the mercy of Christ glorieth against judgement. Selah

if being under grace freed u from d sabbath,why didn it free u from adultery or stealing.Those dat will have d right to d tree of life,are those who kept God's commandments(rev 22:14),God's last day saints are commandment keepers(rev 12:17).Grace does nt turn u into lawless individuals and if u truly love God keep his commandments(john 14:15)..2.sabbath is nt only abt worship but a rest from work-lev 23:3.u can worship God everyday but u cant rest from work everyday-dats laziness and against God's order.If u worship in truth,u will obey his law,for his commandments are truth-psalm 119:142.....3.Acts 20:7 was nt a regular service,it was a special service for paul to give his last adress.it was an evening-midnight service and i dont think ur services are like dat.2cor 16 was nt a service,it was paul going from house to house to get donations for d missionaries.if it was d sabbath,paul wont be going around and he wont meet people at home...4.d reason for d sabbath is nt related to the Spirit but to God's creation.6days he created,rested d 7thday,how does dat affect d Holyspirit

Christians in heaven would have gotten victory over sin and sinfulness here on earth.They would av gotten to a poing where they would rather die than disobey God in d least detail.They would have perfect love for God.2.D devil and his evil angels will nt be in heaven to tempt the saved.3.d presence of Christ and the wounds on his hands will continually remind them of how much their salvation cost.The issue is nt that their freewill has been taken,but that they have no will apart from God's

Zeus777: have u had to read any Buddhist script ??! It's more philosophical than this ur Jesus repugnant shit..,, ask ur dogmatic brain y Christianity has so killed more humans in history far the sake of their religion more than Hinduism , bhudism, yorubaism and amadiora!!!

Tell me, how many people did Christ kill.If someone took ur clothes without ur awareness and went to steal with it,if by d next day u passed through the same area with the same clothes and they took stones to kill you.what will u do?

Oduduwaboy: @Evangelist paulcr7 how are you? I can see you are really striving to convert the atheists on this thread...hmmm! well i wish you luck sha!
You must know that for you to have any success at your mission, you need to be more logical in your submissions. As of now, most of your responses are not products of logical reasoning nor are they epitomes of a well educated mind!
I will implore you to read a bit more books outside of that book of fables you guys love to carry around called the bible; look for or browse excerpts of " the age of reason by Thomas Paine ". It may do you a lot of good.

1.point of any logical faults you have found.2.tell me if the statement u just made is logical or a product of a well educated mind.3.tell me how thomas paine has impacted ur reasoning capacity

nnofaith: Lol! You are trying to sell Jesus to a hard core atheist, what are you, a five year old?
please tell me you are playing! I thought you were going to introduce me to some exotic religion and here you are talking to me about Jesus. What do you think you can tell me about Jesus that I don't already know.

i guess u dont know d purpose of religion..and by the way,i am nt selling Jesus,am only presenting his message,which i believe and know to be the truth

Zeus777: what miracle? That me as a carpenter while on my way back from work got to learn that an "Holy Spirit " had impregnated my wife? What hapened to my own own sperm and dick

i think ur question is why could nt joseph be d one to impregnate mary(correct me if i am wrong).1.for Christ to save us,he must be divine because man cannot save himself of his own sin and sinfulness.2.death is d penalty of sin and a divine being cannot.3.Christ had to be a man and d law of redemption in lev shows that Christ has to be our brother to redeem us.The birth of Jesus was a union of d divine and the human.5.He had to be born of the holyspirit because without d divine spirit no one can live a perfect life which is a requirement for redemption

Weah96: With Yahweh and Jesus, the bible can be used as a means to dismiss them easily. In the book of genesis, for example, Yahweh creates light BEFORE he even bothers to create suns/stars. Even plants are created before our own star. On earth, plants require light from our star to carry on photosynthesis. What is Yahweh's excuse for telling lies, when he claims in other parts of the same bible that he doesn't? NONE. The only logical answer is that an ordinary man created the fiction, and that those two idiots are imaginary.

go and read Revelation 22:5

Mr majaze, can u pls state ur claims one by one for scrutiny

nnofaith: So which religion is the "true" religion?

I believe that there are 3 test of truth u can apply-logical consistency-are d claims of that religion consisten with laws of logic and rationality.2.empirical adequacy-are d claims of the religion verifiable.3.existential relevance..how does d religion deal with the human condition,our sins,sinfulness.You can apply these to how each religion answers the questions of orign,meaning,morality and destiny.If u think truth is worth it,u must be ready to search for it.i suggest u go to this blog www.fadelessvision..com and consider the last 4 articles and Jesus among other gods-Ravi Zacharias(available online)

Oduduwaboy: Hatred is the bedrock of every religion. The Catholics belief the pentecostals are on the broadway to hell because they do not recognize the leadership of the Pope who sits upon 'Peter's throne'; the pentecostals are so many there is no cental doctrine and they hate each other...those females who wear trousers,use make up, infact beautiful looking are hell-bound etc.
Islam has at its heart the commandment from prophet that all infidels must be forced to live under a medieval caliphate or else be killed preferably by beheading! None tithers and sinners will burn forever and ever in hell....

The heart of the primitive man was filled with hatred for dissenters ; from this same heart, man created god after mans' heart & perverted wishes. Religion was only a means to make men controllable by instilling fear into them.

If u want to know what Christianity should be,study d bible urself with an open heart.Christianity has become an emotional traunt and people have started modifying 'GOD' to fit their life and ideas.If u search 4 Christ truthfully,u will find him in his word.dont approach d bible with 'emotion',go with a sincere heart..God is nt a witholder,whatever he does nt wants u to do,it is for ur gud.d fact that u dont want ur child to play with d fire does nt mean hatred.

traware: I experienced the Christians vs Moslems February 2000 riot in Kaduna state and I couldn't come to terms with the atrocities that were committed by both sides and the attitude both sides possessed after the riot(No side wanted to claim responsibility for their actions they instead, preferred pointing fingers)I also began wondering why and how a people who their God told not to kill other human beings,slaughtered other human beings like they were chickens/rams.I also wondered why if there was really a God,why didn't 'he' stop the atrocities from occurring?Why did bad things happen and why didn't this 'almighty' and 'all powerful' God do anything to stop them?WW 1 and 2?Atomic bomb drop on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?The Khmer rouge?The Rwanda genocide?Questions...questions...back then,the internet wasn't as readily available as it is today so I had to do everything the hard way...believe me,it wasn't an easy journey but I slowly and painfully came to realize there was no 'God' anywhere only we humans.It will be twelve years this November I became a full-fledged atheist.The journey continues...

What u av said does nt nullify God's existence if u put it in a syllogism.1.there is evil.2.evil is d privation of good.there is good.there is a moral standard that differentiate good or bad.3.these moral standards are universal.4.d moral standards suggest a moral lawgiver.God is d moral lawgiver...if u want God to stop evil by 'force',he would have to take away freewill(d capacity to choose to do evij) and he would have to be consistent with that choice.But God has a better way of dealing with evil

nnofaith: All religions are man made, there is no such thing as a true religion. If there was a god and he wanted to be worshipped via a religion,that religion would have started from day one and all races and tribes would key in to that religion from day one.

The word should be 'should' nt 'would'.God can have a religion and indeed has,where all races and tribes could choose to key in but they cant be forced to key in.Religious deviations are mostly based on personal issues,people want a god that will serve them and submit to their wishes and they created them.

Weah96: God is one of those unknowable claims and that's why it cannot be substantiated. But I hope you realize that this statement is referring to a general God concept, not Yahweh and Allah who can both be dismissed and refuted by children. It's more difficult to disprove a general concept of God because it could imply almost anything. God could be energy, matter, consciousness, the universe itself, or anything.

u av nt answered my question,what level of evidence is sufficient and iow do we know that ur standard for sufficient evidence is itself sufficient

finofaya: Young man,if the statement was "no truth can be substantiated or refuted", then your argument would have carried some force.

u av nt answered the question

Weah96: I found out that the thing was in direct opposition to ordinary common sense. By the time I got to contemplate the story of how Mary was impregnated by nobody, for the umpteenth time, I had already passed the threshold for tolerance.

I will submit to you that after a hard day's work as a carpenter, no human man will come home and accept the fact that it wasn't the neighbor, but an invisible person who impregnated his wife. I even slapped myself for believing that story as a child, when I should have known better. I don't give a dam)n if he had a dream after or before. Joseph would have sent that girl back to her father's house.

If u believe that God can create d world with all its complexity,why cant he perform that miracle

nnofaith: Became an atheist cos i read somewhere how my "holy" prophet beheaded 700 Jews (of Banu Quraiza), i mean why would a God meant for everybody have favorite tribes, towns and people? why will god create some as believers and others as infidels? and he now tells the believers to kill the infidels. Religion doesn't make any sense.

bro,there are thousands of religions and all religions at their core is exclusive..and i believe that if all religions differ only,one of them can be true. The question is if u have considered other religions apart from islam and have sought to get answers to d questions u have on islam from their theologians

Weah96: Mister, these are very good questions. It's a pity you don't ask questions like these about your own God. Why do you stop thinking like this when it comes to validating your deity?

Btw, that is NOT the meaning of agnosticism. All it says is that certain claims cannot be substantiated or refuted, especially the existence of Gods, not all claims. Russell's Teapot would be an example of another such claim. Stop making things up.

'some truths cannot be substantiated or refuted'- can that statement be substantiated or refuted.if it can be substantiated(as agnostic except),then why cant God's existence be substantiated.Agnostic has no rational basis because no matter how much evidence u present,they can still choose to say it is nt substantiated.so,what test does agnostic apply to know when a claim can be said to be substantiated?

qstar: @OP, after so much thought and research, i realised that the universe/god does not give a phuck about us(the inhabitants). I also noticed how religions personalise god, it reeked of egocentrism. I couldn't believe that such a god could exist, i.e. a god that will give you an edge over your neighbour and to the detriment of the neighbour.
A god that'll judge people based on their belief rather than what they did, to me, was a human invention and politically inspired.

I dont know how many religions u considered before making d claim that God does nt care.In d message of Christ, i see a God who sent his only son to die for people who hated him and did nt accept him.I see in him, a God who left d beauty and splendor of heaven to a world of pain and sorrow to deal with our sins and our sinfulness.I see a God who became man and walked the earth in healing the sick,giving hope to the despodent,meaning to the confused,providing food for the multitudes,he is always described as looking at d multitudes with compassion.I see a God who told us to value the lives of others and to love them.do u know how many hospitals,institutions,sanitariums,orphanages,clinics that were built in his name? And till tomorrow u will still see Christian missionaries in prisons and hospitals,u will even see them die helping ebola patients.I see a God who deals with everyone personally as if he were d only one existing and he says to us 'i am with u always to the end of the world',' and in our troubles he says 'my grace is sufficient for you'..2.the economical system we have today is not d purpose of God.In ancient israel and d early church,he told them that there should nt be one poor person among them,even though people had different abilities, strenght and talents,yet there was a communal system where everyone was satisfied and no one was lazy,'they had all things in common,sold their possessions and parted them to all men,as every man had need'.it is normal to have diff abilities and opportunities but Christ statement that u should 'love ur neighbour' as urself makes d different..3..if God judge us based on how works,we cannot meet his standards but instead he gave us his son to deal with our sins and sinfulness and give us a renewed and transformed heart that desires to do only those things that are pleasing in his sight.We cannot be saved by works because God has a better offer.through faith in Christ,the works naturally follow.

Agnosticism means 'truth cannot be known',but how does agnostics know that truth(dat statement) and if that statement is nt true,it is false.also someone said 'all knowledge must be scientific' but is that statement itself scientific,if nt d statement itself is useless.Someone else claim that all religions are racists and supporters of slavery.But d message of Christ is 'there is neither jews nor greek,there is neither bond nor free,there is neither male nor female:for ye are all one in Christ Jesus '(Gal 3:28).There are more than enough scientific,logical,rational reasons to believe in God.The earliest scientists were theists.Go and consider d second law of thermodynamics for example,they all speak of a beginning by a creator.Another person talked about errors in d bible.You must understand that the manuscripts were copied by men who could make errors like writing 8 instead of 18, but d numerous manuscripts and d discovery of the dead sea scrolls has helped to solve almost all of the supposed errors.the message of the bible is consistent and coherent,God did nt made mistakes neither did the writers,every mistake is from copyists and translators.If u are sincere,i will suggest u read these e books that u can get online WHEN CRITICS ASK BY NORMAN GIELSER,RECEIVING THE WORD-SAMUEL PIPIM.For all others that complain abt d church,judge a religion nt by its abuse.The center of Christianity is Christ.There are too many perversions in today's christianity,take the bible and read it for yourself and u will find Christ who nt only explain ur origin but places a value on u because u are created in God's image,he gives u a purpose to live for,he tells u dat u are the light of d world,on morality,he tells u to love God and recognise the sanctity of the lives of ur neighours,he gives u a destiny beyond d grave,'because i live u will live also',..

I suggest you read JESUS AMONG OTHER GODS BY RAVI ZACHARIAS.u can get it online

I suggest you read Revelation chapter 12.it shows d history of the true church from the OT to the end of time.The chapter as is the whole book contains some symbols, but if u compare scriptures with scriptures,you will understand...e.g a woman is rep as a church-rev 12:1,jer 6:2,2cor11:2,eph 5:23-27.

I dont know when Christians started using abusive words to force an argument into a mere exchanges of railings.Atheists have good questions and Christ has good answers.Christ never taught us to avoid difficult questions and use foul language instead.For the sincere Atheists,i will like to recommend these e books that u can get online 'THE PROBLEM OF PAIN' BY CS LEWIS if ur problem is with Pain,if u have other problems with Christianity, i will like u to sincerely consider these-WHEN SKEPTICS ASK and 'I DONT HAVE ENOUGH FAITH TO BE AN ATHEIST BY NORMAN GIELSER or check some works of RAVI ZACHARIAS.i understand your concern and ur questions but if u sincerely consider these books,i believe u will find some answers.To the christians,let us understand our faith and the teachings of the bible and defend our faith according to the spirit of Christ and nt with abuses.

Mr Goshen,i will make this last reply because u are new to the thread.the 613 laws were the exposition of the pharisees and rabbis gave to d moral.Jesus did nt agree with some of their exagerations.example is d case of d sabbath where u are nt allowed to help someone who falls into a ditch and some of d laws they made in regards to d temple in mathew 15 and 23.we are nt subject to the rabbis laws but only to Christ law of the ten commandmemt just like we are nt subject to some laws and practices implemented by the Catholic church.

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OLAADEGBU: Let me leave you with the words of D.L. Moody who said: "The Law can only chase a man to Calvary, no further"

Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the Law therefore we are no longer in bondage to it. And if we try to keep one part of the Law by the love for the redeemer as you put it, we are then obligated to keep the whole Law, including the 613 precepts (Read Galatians 3:10).

when d law leads a man to christ,it does nt make him the same infidel he always is for then salvation has no meaning.if Christianity is a religion that will turn people from ignorant sinners to knowledgeable lawless infidel,then we have no message.'The world has seen how d blood of Christ saves us from d guilt of sin,they want to know how it saves us from d power of sin'.The 613 moral codes are rabbinic exagerations,d 10 commandments and d teachings of Christ on them arewhat i mean by d law.remember,christian faith is active nt passive.only those who do his will nt to be saved but because they are already saved by his grace with d power of a new pure life wij reign with him.THIS IS MY LAST POST,I WISH U WELL

OLAADEGBU: Are you sincerely saying that you cannot find where these have been forbidden in the NT or the OT? Let me give you another verse of who blasphemes the Lord.

"And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven" (Revelation 13:6).

Guess who this is talking about. Is this written in the OT or the new?

am talking abt d ten commandments

OLAADEGBU: Lets read Romans 14:5-10 to see it's application to the Christian Church:

"One man esteems one day above another: another esteems every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regards the day, regards it to the Lord; and he that regards not the day, to the Lord he does not regard it. He that eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he that eats not, to the Lord he eats not, and gives God thanks. For none of us lives to himself, and no man dies to himself...But why do you judge your brother? or why do you set at nought your brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ"

i like people who read d bible in its context.Here Paul was adressing issues that are causing conflict btw d jews and d gentiles.For Paul to be refering to d weekly sabbath here,it means that it must be an issue of conflict but it is not-acts 15,acts 18 both jews and gentiles kept d weekly sabbath.Paul was referring to d other sabbaths dat seperated jews and greeks.After Paul said dat no one should judge it does nt mean dat there will nt be a judgment, but d judgment is for God to do.it doesnt mean dat we should nt correct ourselves but because we are nt God we should nt condemn others

OLAADEGBU: Of cause, our Lord Jesus Christ did keep the Sabbath. He had to keep the whole law to be a perfect sacrifice. The holy Scriptures makes it perfectly clear that the Law has been satisfied in Christ. The reason why apostles like Paul went to the synagogue was not to keep the Law. It was for him to be able to preach the gospel to the Jews (Romans 10:1). To the Jews he became a Jew, that he might win the Jews (1 Cor. 9:19-20). This means that he went to where and when they gathered. Simples

when paul kept it together with gentiles who never kept it their whole life,what was he doing? Or was he becoming like a gentile to win a gentile who were already won

alexleo: Bro your analogy is a lie. Jesus condemned adultery in the new testament and even raised the bar by saying that if you look at a woman lustfully you have coommitted it. In some other places in the new testament adultery was mentioned as sin(e.g. Galatiands 5:19) but in the case of sabbath, the new testament said it clearly that we shouldn't allow anyone judge us concerning the sabbath day or any holy day. We can't bow to your understanding and doctrine. We ll take the bible stand. You are just blindly promoting what you were taught in church.

if u have any thing to say, present ur case.i dont like people who talk out of emotion and not out of biblical consistency and reasoning.