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CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 11:32pm On Jun 02, 2019
Wanity:
Idiot I don't even live in Wukari and I don't any business with ashawo and thieves
jukum man, take it easy, tomorrow carry you gun wait at your usual Bekpi as your people have been attacking any Tiv vehicle, even if you can't identify my B vehicle, just randomly shoot as usual to cool temper.that's if you are boiling with rage as I can observe
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 11:01pm On Jun 02, 2019
Wanity:
Onne Taraba have no indigenous tiv/thieves, you people are disgrace to humanity, if you think tiv have a potion in Taraba let them stand and fight for it not to be running up and down.


I hope you have not forgotten 1999 - 2000 Fulani and Jukun against tiv 2015 Fulani against tiv now is Jukun against tiv.



When I think of all this incident what comes to mind is that there's no smoke without fire. Mind you I am not from Taraba and I am not Jukun by tribe but I am born brought up in Taraba. Birth citizen doesn't exist in Nigeria. The earlier you know that the better for you.
STAND AND FIGHT YOU SAY? I'M NOT HERE TO CHEST BEATS, EVEN IF I WERE TO.NOT THE "IAM NOT JUKUM TYPE LIKE YOU"
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 10:52pm On Jun 02, 2019
gowaga68:
I guess you didn't get him or her right .
To the best of my knowledge, the TIV's around Southern Taraba axis are troublesome. With me saying so, I'm not generalising the TIV's .
And I will categorically tell you ,no single large family within southern Taraba who doesn't have a tie with TIV's.
But you co defendant WANITY (A SECURITY OFFICER WHO WAS DRAFTED TO WUKARI FOR PEACE KEEPING IMPREGNATED HIS MOTHER AND LEFT WITHOUT INFORMING THEM HIS TRIBE) is disputing your submition that The Tivs are indigenous to Tarba state
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 10:31pm On Jun 02, 2019
ShamsBarack:
Allow them, they think we don't know history.

We all know how the Jukuns seem to think everyone in Taraba should bow down to them because they feel they are Lords in Taraba.

And I don't also blame them, I blame the Gov't that allows T.Y. Danjuma to arm militias in Taraba state, who often carry out attacks on his behalf.

We also lost our properties in Adu, Takum. Even in Donga, we have family members who have lost properties.

The Jukuns are very troublesome. If they are not fighting the Tivs, it is the Hausas or even the Fulanis.
Be lest assured that, that their CONTROVERSIAL DANJUMA'S POLITICAL GOD FATHERISM IN TARABA 'LL NOT LAST FOREVER. IT THEN THEY WILL KNOW WETIN DEY. I leant he Ty has being advising the Jukums to align with the Larger Tivs cuz if they continua this way their future is bleak but they will not hear because of the guns they have in their hands, as if only their god ty has the monopoly to buy arms him and only him. any way they say "stubborn fly de follow deed body d enter grave. Time shall tell
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 10:01pm On Jun 02, 2019
Wanity:
Onne Taraba have no indigenous tiv/thieves, you people are disgrace to humanity, if you think tiv have a potion in Taraba let them stand and fight for it not to be running up and down.


I hope you have not forgotten 1999 - 2000 Fulani and Jukun against tiv 2015 Fulani against tiv now is Jukun against tiv.



When I think of all this incident what comes to mind is that there's no smoke without fire. Mind you I am not from Taraba and I am not Jukun by tribe but I am born brought up in Taraba. Birth citizen doesn't exist in Nigeria. The earlier you know that the better for you.
Did I hear you said you are not a jukum by tribe with the way your writings portrays hates and anger sentiment? I can diagnose your problem off-hand; WANITY, YOU'RE SUFERRING FROM WHAT IS CALLED, "MINORITY INFERIORITY COMPLEX" it means people born in such smallest of tribes are never proud to be identified with such insignificant nation.which tribe would you've prefered to be identified with? Itilo?
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 9:21pm On Jun 02, 2019
gowaga68:
No one is disputing the TIV's are not bonafide indigenes of the state and just as you pointed that out no one can dispute TIV's are the cause of most crimes in southern Taraba.
How can a tiv man farm in Bali LGA and still sends his revenue to Benue state or claim the place he's farming is part of Benue. Kashimbila crisis still on mind.
Sai and Abako were carved away from Taraba to appease the TIV's during Jolly , Chanchangi is still having issues with TIV's , Donga still on the matter , to mention but few.
I 've stated advising any TIv man in Tr state to start considering house insurance policies cuz Tiv house' life span hitherto was10 years but now it's 5yrs. e.g. my father's house was burnt in Gd Dorowa in 1991 we left to Dan Anacha, in 2001yet dislodged, I joined my elder brother in Ananum 2014 his house burnt, he decided lets settle in Donga town, yet his house got brought down last month may 2019 by the
same Jukums. NO BODY SHOULD COME BETWEEN US. I DON'T WANT TO TYPE ANYTHING "COUNT DOWN" AGAIN THOSE BLAMING BuharI should stop forth with
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m):
ShamsBarack:
Jukun man! cheesy

The Tivs in Taraba state are bonafide indigenes of Taraba state and will continue to be till eternity.

We've been fighting since the dawn of time. The Jukun can't wish us away. They can't also kill us away. The earlier you guys realise this the better for us all.
Iam sure the moderators have taken note of that WANITY APPROPRIATELY late him limit that attitude to Wukari
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 8:32pm On Jun 02, 2019
Dackrapper:
Ijaws in Ondo are not looking for trouble na but you will never see Tiv people resting

When they are not fighting Fulani, they are fighting Kuteb or Jukun

I remember when they were fighting with Fulanis their houses were burnt Jukun people gave them shelter and now they are fighting the jukuns for reasons we know not.
Have you forgotten so soon how the Jukums on the other hand are not tolerant , not ready to accommodate any other tribe in their fantasize, fictitious unrealistic Kwarafa kingdom? do you remember when in the nineties the Jukums where fighting and chasing all Kutebs out of Takum so that no one shears takum with them, that they should all relocate to USSA?
Have you forgotten how all Hausas in Rafinkada were killed and all their properties and homes destroyed and looted? is any Hausa property still standing erect in Wukari town today? MUST I remind you about GIDIN DOROWA POGROM AGAINST THE HAUSAS?
All because the jukums want to forcefully and lately create a kingdom for themselves in the 21st century. Iam an old student of Gd Dorowa and Bantaje for your information
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 7:54pm On Jun 02, 2019
Dackrapper:
Ijaws in Ondo are not looking for trouble na but you will never see Tiv people resting

When they are not fighting Fulani, they are fighting Kuteb or Jukun

I remember when they were fighting with Fulanis their houses were burnt Jukun people gave them shelter and now they are fighting the jukuns for reasons we know not.
Could you help us know how the Tivs in Tr state are troublesome please? while talking about the Tivs, make sure you don't just generalised bearing in mind this is Taraba affairs ok
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 6:40pm On Jun 02, 2019
FemiMaduka:
You are ignorant. Those Tivs in Taraba state have an equal stake in the state as any other. They have been there for ages; how old is Nigeria as a whole (I intentionally didn't mention Taraba)? States (with their boundaries) are fairly recent creation.
Don't mind that lady, she is a leaner
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 6:29pm On Jun 02, 2019
gowaga68:
If you really mean an eye for an eye , then my oga the Tivs along Southern Taraba will be long gone.
Check all the crisis, kidnapping and robbery taking place along Kasina-ala -Takum road , Kasina -ala -Wukari road is alarming and yet no media or government body is saying anything about it.
How do you mean by "if it's an eye for an eye,Tivs in southern Taraba will be long gone"? may I understand you better please
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 5:42pm On Jun 02, 2019
NobleAngell:
The Tivs should just return to their Benue jejely.
where should the Jukums in Benue go to? so you mean the crises is all about the Tiv not wanted in jukum areas sheh? I wouldn't call Jukum's Taraba cuz the both have a stake in Taraba state.go for history first
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 5:29pm On Jun 02, 2019
NobleAngell:
The Tivs should just return to their Benue jejely.
So that Ijaws in Ondo state will be asked to go back to? go and tell that story to those who were involved in state creation to make make sure every tribe be relocated to a particular location/state nah
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 5:20pm On Jun 02, 2019
FriendNG:
This one some people are angry because they cannot blame Fulani. Oya IGP send Abba Kyari to restore order.
Because it's not fulani nah
CrimeRe: Tiv/Jukun crisis: Six killed whilst vandalising, looting church in Taraba by payosehtor(m): 5:16pm On Jun 02, 2019
This is communal crises that can only be resolved communally on a round table when the two groups involved are done disputably.simple
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do We Always Inherite Only Ancestral Curses And Not Blessings by payosehtor(m): 4:45pm On Jun 02, 2019
shortgun:
I've been wondering why we Christians in this part of the world are always praying, fasting and fighting against Ancestral Curses almost all our lives yet we don't pray for Ancestral Blessings.

From the Bible you will always see where the children of Israel benefited from blessings of their ancestors even when the ancestors were never Christians.
Does it mean that our Ancestors are pure evils without anything good in them?

Are our Ancestors devils and demons? yet we still have their blood in us and we have the capacity to do good.

I don't believe that everyone in my bloodline are devils with no capacity for doing good.
What becomes of you is dependent on how your parent lived and played their life.
But you SHORTGUN, you have the capacity to change by drowing a line like the "soul/Jonathan"scenario I 've sited above,though you the "line drower " way not necessarily benefit from it but your lineage will
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do We Always Inherite Only Ancestral Curses And Not Blessings by payosehtor(m): 4:26pm On Jun 02, 2019
CAPSLOCKED:
CURSES ARE A WASTE OF FREE SPEECH. THEY PRODUCE ZERO EFFECTS.

IF CURSES WORKED WE'LL SIMPLY GATHER AS A NATION AND CURSE TERRORISTS. BUT WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS TO FIGHT BH, FULANI MILITIA, KIDNAPPERS AND ROBBERS BY ACQUIRING PHYSICAL WEAPONS BECAUSE WE KNOW BETTER.

ONLY THE WORST CLOWNS BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT CANNOT BE PRACTICALIZED.
I don't expect anything different from what you have written. I know the school of thought you belong to.IS IT NOT CAPSLOCKED?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do We Always Inherite Only Ancestral Curses And Not Blessings by payosehtor(m): 4:20pm On Jun 02, 2019
shortgun:
You are right, there are families that are just blessed, they don't struggle or work hard for anything.
Things will always work in their favour.
exactly what I am saying.Jonathan's offspring needed no strangle in life, not cuz his father stored billions for him.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do We Always Inherite Only Ancestral Curses And Not Blessings by payosehtor(m): 4:12pm On Jun 02, 2019
biblically.11Sam 21:1-10 when David took over from king soul, there were famine for 3yrs, when David enquired of the lord why, he was told it's like that cuz of the sin(s) of his predecessor.
to cut it short ,7 of soul's family were killed, only the crippled child of Bro Jonathan was speared and lifted to divine with kings.
GO AND CHECK HOW JUST WAS BRO JONA COMPARED TO HIS WICKED FATHER.AFTER, COME AND TELL ME IF JONNATHAN'S SON HAS TO PRAY AGAINST PARENTAL CURSES . CHEERS
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do We Always Inherite Only Ancestral Curses And Not Blessings by payosehtor(m): 3:52pm On Jun 02, 2019
At least no one is ignorant of the lifestyle of our forefathers or immediate parents,
if you don't know of yours, maybe you need to inquire. how many of our parent lived clean, pure and just? my immediate junior refused to Mary from our tribe, when I asked him y, he simply told me "even if I don't know all Tiv women, at least I know my mother"
now what blessing do you think that boy will pray to inherit from that his mother if not "God, have Marcy on me" if my junior could say that against my mother, do you think me I have a contrary opinion?
in short , live pure life, even if you poor, your offspring will enjoy favour
Nairaland GeneralWhy Were You Banned? by payosehtor(op): 5:00am On Jun 02, 2019
Have you ever been banned on this forum? if yes, do you (manage) know why or which of the rules you contravene? if yes what are you doing or how do you want to avoid a repeat ?
As for me, I once received a one year long ban. there is no gain saying it pained me, but while it lasted, I cross-examined my old post and I discovered there was a time some political actors from a particular section of the county were being called to question for their involvement in the past administration during the early inception of the Buhari's first term, I was not happy with the way their tribesmen were defending them while the very accused were not ready to come forth.
while in my nature, Iam the forthright and blunt to a fault type. I CALLED OR LABELED THOSE TRIBES "CRIMENERS" . cuz I wanted to be one of the voices against corruption. Now, to avoid the aforementioned, I only read comments in the POLITICAL section and move on.
may we hear your side of story please
Christianity EtcRe: Your Dreams Explained by payosehtor(m): 3:15pm On May 31, 2019
sir, I've decided to follow your gift closely so that if possible I'll tap or rekindled the little anointing I had initially but seem to lost along the line. the short time I monitored my spiritual life though my dream-life along with you, when God finally revealed the exact cause of my problem (poverty) I needed no prophet's explanation.maybe I'll send you a mail, want to know?
Christianity EtcRe: Your Dreams Explained by payosehtor(m): 2:55pm On May 31, 2019
your Grace, in tonight dream, I went to fetch water along with my an elder in my former station and my house maid, after we fetched, they left, wen I looked in the water, notice that the water was dirty with plenty mosquito lavas, when I decided to use it wash my boy's sch sucks and shoes my house help brought but maybe forgot behind, the detergent I was using splashed and spoiled the water source, I then polled down the water source. next I saw some Yoruba women traders who where coming to source for water, then the water manager ordered for the tap water source be opened for them, I had to join the Que as last on the line.I was still waiting until I wake up.
what is this?
Christianity EtcRe: Your Dreams Explained by payosehtor(m): 3:11am On May 30, 2019
more Grace, more passion /time & zeal sir. the reason we 've you (dream interpreter) among us. I thank God for your life and gift and the passion/ time to put it at work. I even want to thank God for some of us that are internet friendly too, cuz in real life, we hardly meet people with this gift, even among our circle of clergy clergys. couple with the fear of "my spiritual life being exposed to my colleague"
I can't imagine how you get rewarded for this kind of online ministry. BUT ONE THING I KNOW & I THINK YOU TOO KNOW IS THAT, AS FAR AS GOD IS CONCERNED, IT'S NOT WHAT YOU GET IN THIS LIFE, BUT WHAT YOU GIVE TO HUMANITY (IMPACT) THAT COUNT BEFORE THE CREATOR. fire on bro
Christianity EtcRe: Your Dreams Explained by payosehtor(m): 11:34pm On May 28, 2019
sir, A night before I'll travel to my station in mother state, I had this dream.
immediately I rounded up my Sunday service, I was going along with a brother, we entered one class room, though every thin inside the class look like a typical class R.but while we were looking, somebody alerted from somewhere and was locking us up.I had to shout for that person to know we were inside before he opened.
it was while he was locking that we saw his pastorial books/bag and we discovered he was the pastor who he too had just closed from fellowship in that class.
what's the meaning of this?
CrimeRe: Jukun Youths Kill Tiv Militias, Pose With Their Corpses (Graphic Photos) by payosehtor(m): 4:00pm On May 15, 2019
I want to call this NEGATIVE PROPAGANDA.the result too 'll be same.
CrimeRe: Jukun Youths Kill Tiv Militias, Pose With Their Corpses (Graphic Photos) by payosehtor(m): 3:54pm On May 15, 2019
those are not Tiv militias but innocent victims of war, why the ropes in their legs?
CrimeRe: Jukun Youths Kill Tiv Militias, Pose With Their Corpses (Graphic Photos) by payosehtor(m): 6:42pm On May 14, 2019
Adaibeku:
We ar being paid N50k monthly by southern/middle belt coalition philantropists to create awareness ,

Me am a convener n an executive secretary of another secret society ,We are spreading knowlegde to enlighten people just to save our unborn generation from intending doom u dont understand....
You people will tank us when results start showing ,
is that all? tell me more
CrimeRe: Jukun Youths Kill Tiv Militias, Pose With Their Corpses (Graphic Photos) by payosehtor(m): 6:39pm On May 14, 2019
Nowenuse:
My brother this is the sad truth. Tivs are settlers in much of Southern Taraba, but not everywhere in Southern Taraba.
I am greatly interested in the unity of middlebelt tribes hence I don't like to stress on some things that divide us.
I am the leader of an upcoming middlebelt group and I have urged my Jukun brethren that they must learn to accomodate the Tivs in Southern Taraba. Tivs might have come later, but they have been there a long time now and cannot go back anywhere else.

This is the same issue in Nasarawa state where Tivs claim to be indigenes, but the Alagos, Agatus, Ekyes & Akyekura(Jukuns) reject it vehemently.

Why always Tivs and other tribes?
why always Tivs and other tribes? it's simply unfounded fear of dominance against the Tivs in the north central and particularly the neighboring tribes.but the Tivs I know are very hospitable ask LADY ADAIBEKU, an igbo lady in the heart of the TIv for avoidance of doubt
CrimeRe: Jukun Youths Kill Tiv Militias, Pose With Their Corpses (Graphic Photos) by payosehtor(m): 5:50pm On May 14, 2019
Nowenuse:
Southern Taraba in it's entirety belongs to Jukuns. Hausa fulanis and Tivs are settlers there. Jukuns are only fighting to protect what is ancestrally theirs.
You a man from plateau state calling Tiv man a settler in southern Taraba? which historian wrote that perspective and which institution recommended that book you read? maybe the reason this crashes will not cease soon.
CrimeRe: Jukun Youths Kill Tiv Militias, Pose With Their Corpses (Graphic Photos) by payosehtor(m): 1:08pm On May 14, 2019
Adaibeku:
I will neva hate tiv ..A tivman i know who is well learned will curse tiv n people will try to calm him ,he studied overseas ..

Please open ur eyes i bear mimidoo i dnt jate tivland because dey love stranger..my problm is leaving priority n be chasing shadows ..

I have always dream where during restructure tiv nation is made rich through its blessed land

China ,south africa ,india will come to tivland to buy yam ,i av dis dream but Tiv people hate my dream and say is a biafra dream ,am nt mincing a word here onee !

I love tiv wen i shower praises on wat God is doing in dia land they will be shouting sai baba ,We are fulani
Cant they think about Tiv's future n leave northern nigeria who thinks only themselves..
A man frm vandekyaa slapped a guy arguing wt me in my husbands cybercafe ,Saying he would av shoot him for being stupid (a military man who studied overseas though)
Watch ,read and Find out Am hot by your People's lack of Wisdom ,
Stop telling people i hate Tiv
sorry sister Ada, it 'll not be heard from me again. but on the issue of flaws in Tiv land and among the Tivs, is there any tribe that is just perfectly without any lack?
CrimeRe: Jukun Youths Kill Tiv Militias, Pose With Their Corpses (Graphic Photos) by payosehtor(m): 12:42pm On May 14, 2019
Adaibeku:
I bear 2 names in katsina alla
1.Mimidoo
2. Aondokwasi given to me by a head ,this names fetchs me luck espiacially dat mimi
May I know how you''ve manage to influence some of your pals like Lzaa and Inhotep ( spelling) so much that any thing /time you call for their attention on whatever issue, they just rush to react unwillingly even without information on the subject?

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