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Christianity Etc › Why A Watchman Is More Than A Prophet by PCHC(op): 10:12am On Aug 21, 2023
EZEKIEL 3:18


[NKJV] — When I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life, that same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand.

[TLV] — When I say to the wicked, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn him or speak to warn the wicked of his wicked way, to save his life, that wicked person will die in his iniquity, but I will require his blood from your hand.



If God had spoken to the wicked, saying to him/her, "You shall surely die!' why would there still be need for a watchman to give the "Warning of Salvation" to that wicked man?

In the Bible verse above, when God says to the wicked, "You shall surely die" or "Your death is inevitable:" There are yet "three Grace" in this Word of God for that wicked man or sinner:

*1* The Grace of "Not being the Final Hearing;"

*2* The Grace of "Not being the Final Saying;"

*3* The Grace of "Time."

The essence of the first grace (Grace of that Word not being the final hearing from the Mouth of God) is to ensure there is a watchman, a witness, a messenger or an interpreter, between God and that wicked man or sinner. Since God chose to be invisible to the world of wicked men, the authentication of the wicked men hearing from God will be by hearing them hearing from God's Watchmen. Thus, their hearing depends on watchmen.

[Romans 10:14-15] — "...and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent?..."

The essence of the second grace (Grace of that Word not being the final saying from the Mouth of God) is to ensure that even though God always has the final say, not every word of God should be the final say. There are some Words of God that should not be the final say: This will help us differentiate between "The Prophets of God" and "The Watchmen or the Watchful Intercessors." Thus, to defeat or overthrow even such saying of God that favors death or destruction of the wicked.

[Matthew 9:13] — "But go you and learn what that means, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

The essence of the third grace (Grace of time) is to ensure that wicked or sinner hears the message or warning of salvation on time before his/her death or destruction. That time between, when he/she heard and the day of death, is the time of grace or time of salvation through repentance.

To differentiate between "A Prophet" and "A Watchman:"

A "Watchman" is both a prophet and more than a prophet, like John the Baptist. As it is written,

[Luke 7:26-27] — "But what went you out for to see? A prophet? Yes, I say to you, and much more than a prophet. This is he, of whom it is written, "Behold, I send My messenger before Your face, which shall prepare Your way before You."

That's what a Watchman does, preparing the Lord's Way before Him. Between God and men who should direct the way of the other? God is He that should direct the way for men to follow. But Watchmen have ways of preparing the way of the Lord God, and influencing the direction of the Lord would have taken for destroying people into a different direction (of sparing/saving them as) the Watchmen wanted God to take. You should be able to figure out men of God and women of God who redirected God from imminently destroying people, by the watchmen being both proactive and preemptive. A woman like Zipporah, who preempted and aborted the Lord God's intents and move to kill Moses; a man like Moses, who preempted and aborted the Lord God's intents and move to destroy all children of Israel and to rebuild the children of Moses as God's chosen people; a man like Phinehas, who stopped already move of the Lord God's destruction among Israelites who had committed fornication or had sexual intercourse, to the degree that both Moses intercession/prayers and Aaron as high priest intercession with his censer and offering of incense could not prevent the anger and destruction of God that was killing thousands per hour; until Phinehas used spear to pin a man that was having sex in fornication with a strange woman, pinning both the man and woman into the ground while they were having sex. That act of Phinehas stopped the wrath of God and the destruction of Israel stopped: Therefore, Phinehas was automatically made or appointed "An Everlasting Priest" in the eternal kingdom of God far greater than the high priesthood of Aaron. In "Revelation 5" the twenty four elders testified that the Lamb (Jesus Christ) was first slain and through His Blood He has made us Kings and Priests to God in the everlasting Kingdom of God. But there was one man who did not have to wait for the death of the Lord Jesus Christ before he was guaranteed the kingship and priesthood inside heaven — That was Phinehas.

You see, if I continue list other examples of watchers or watch men or women who influenced or changed the path or course of God, this writing would be more voluminous. So here is simple difference between a prophet and a watchman.

A prophet is in the business of promoting the fulfilment of all the Words of God spoken by the prophet: He declares whatever God says and the words of the prophet comes to pass whether they are good news or calamity: just let not a word of the prophet fail.

In contrast, a watchman is in the business of preventing the fulfilment of the destructive Words of God spoken by the watchman: He declares whatever God says and the words of the watchman is supposed to generate "Repentance/Reformation" and not "Fulfilling of Prophecies" as those of prophets.

Sometimes, it may seem a watchman is a false prophet because his prophecy did not later happen; but if his prophecy generated repentance, correction or made God to change His mind from what God earlier told the watchman, then spiritually that watchman has achieved far greater success than what the world celebrate as a prophet who's words always come to pass.

Another difference between a prophet and a watchman sometimes is that: A prophet knows that when he speaks God's Words to those they are sent those words must happen, but a watchman knows that when he speaks God's Words to those they are sent those words may not happen, usually because those people believe him, received his warning, and repented or obeyed by faith

So because a watchman feels if I say it or preach it, people will know and repent which prevents their destruction and death; so sometimes a watchman may want to avoid warning or teaching people so that they would keep heading their way into the pit of destruction. However, God will require the blood of those they refused to warn from the hands of the watchmen who refused to warn them. So the reason a watchman is more than a prophet is because the watchman carries more responsibility than a prophet.

Like Jonah and Nineveh he hated: Ninevites were enemies to Jonah and Jonah was made by God a watchman over his enemies. If Jonah warns them of God's destruction that was coming in 40 days like that of Sodom and Gomorrah, they will repent and then the destruction will not have to be. Jonah wanted them to be destroyed, and so he would not prophesy or warn them. He was traveling to Tarshish when God began to require the blood of the Ninevites at Jonah's hand. Thank God they were not destroyed yet and Jonah experienced hell in the belly of the whale that swallowed him, and he had the grace of 40 days before the destruction of the same Nineveh would seal up his own destruction for not warning them as God sent him to be their watcher.

John the Baptist, would you not warn the Pharisees and Church Pastors of your time to repent and flee from the wrath to come?

[Matthew 3:7‭-‬10 FBV] — But when John saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to be baptized, he said to them, “You vipers' brood! Who warned you to run away from the coming judgment? Show by what you do that you have truly repented, and don't presume to say proudly to yourselves, ‘Abraham is our father.’ I tell you that God could make children of Abraham from these stones. In fact the ax is ready to chop down the trees. Every tree that doesn't produce good fruit will be chopped down and thrown into the fire.

Christianity Etc › unclothedness *without Shame* by PCHC(op): 11:43am On Aug 19, 2023

GENESIS 2:25

[NKJV]
And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

[TLV]
Now both of them were naked, the man and his wife, and they were not ashamed.


Let's first share the testimony that the Lord God had finally fulfilled His Promise for the man, for God had made for the man a helper suitable for him. The Lord God be glorified for providing Woman for Man: Thank You.

It's no longer "The man being alone" anymore, but has become "The man and his wife." So the issue of loneliness passed but then another issue, that of unclothedness, became the next in line.

In the Bible verse above, both the man and his wife were naked, yet were neither ashamed nor embarrassed. And I want to bring out something mankind had that angels do not have, and also something angels had that mankind did not have in the Bible verse above.

*1* Marriage: The man had wife; but angels do not have and must not have.

*2* Shame of unclothedness or Knowledge of good and evil: The man and his wife did have either shame of unclothedness or knowledge of good and evil, and must not have them; but angels have them.

This means "Shame of unclothedness or Knowledge of good and evil" was the forbidden thing to mankind, while "Marriage or having wives" was the forbidden thing to angels. I assume you already know the story of what happened when mankind breached the law into acquiring the knowledge of good and evil, and then acquired shame of unclothedness and thereby mankind became like angels or gods in knowing good and evil. I also assume you already know the story of what happened when angels breached the law into acquiring wives of the daughters of men and bearing children or offspring through them. Or how sufferings today came by those

In the top Bible verse above, the man and his wife were yet in the "Class of Animals or Lower Carnal Creatures" and not yet in the "Class of Angels or Higher Spiritual Beings." Animals are by default made to have sexual intercourse or mate, procreate and be naked without shame of unclothedness. If any animal seems to be hiding its unclothedness, its not hiding it for shame but hiding it to prevent access: the animal is not closing up for others not to see it, but for others not to touch or access it especially when the animal is not in the mood but the other ones are in desire for it. So animals do not have shame of unclothedness even though many of them do close-up or retract (withdraw) their unclothedness when not in use.

But the man and woman were were not using their unclothedness for something productive or procreative, and yet they were not closing up or retracting (withdrawing) them: and yet they were not ashamed nor embarrassed.

At that stage, there were three steps for man to fully become as the angels. It should have been two steps if the man was not married and had no wife; for being married makes them 3 steps:

*1* Acquire Immortality or Living Forever.

*2* Acquire Knowledge of good and evil.

*3* Acquire Death to dissolve the marriage and resurrection of the dead to live forever without marriage.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Man Must Love His Wife *more He Loves His Father And Mother* by PCHC(op): 7:13pm On Aug 18, 2023

Christianity Etc › Why A Man Must Love His Wife *more He Loves His Father And Mother* by PCHC(op): 7:13pm On Aug 18, 2023
GENESIS 2:24

[NKJV]
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

[TLV]
This is why a man leaves his father and his mother and clings to his wife; and they become one flesh.



The "Bond (Connection)" between a man and his wife should be greater than the bond (connection) between the man and his father/mother. This is because "Taken out of man" is stronger than "Came out of man."

*1* Taken out of man — Woman or Wife

*2* Came out of man/woman — Son of man or daughter

Her being taken out of the man was naturally a breach, including taking something that would never have wanted to leave the man's body and creating hole/way where there should be no way or hole, just for the purpose of taking a man's rib in ways that were not according to the natural reproductive system. That was unlike the way children are formed and birthed, with reproductive organs and hormones pleased to get them out, first from the man into the woman, and then nine months later the woman is pleased to have them separated from her as deliverance/freedom for her.

The bond that naturally never wanted to be separated is stronger than the issues that people enjoyed, felt relieved, or celebrated because of the separation. A man has some kind of feelings when his sperms or semen have accumulated, and he gets relief when he discharges them; a woman has menstrual pains because she needs her egg fertilized so that the egg can begin the process of coming out of her. If fertilized, then months later she feels pains (labor) because she has a child in her, but as soon as the child comes out, she has joy and relief for the fruit has come out of her womb. But she will never wish for that child that came out to return back into her womb: No man re-enters his mother's womb.

So a man leaving his father and mother is a great relief or achievement; but a man joining or clinging to his wife, especially after leaving his father and mother, is also a great relief or achievement. Father and Mother were the man's first home but he had to leave, beginning with leaving his father into his mother; but finally his last home is in clinging to his wife until death.

Don't let your mom or dad be the reason you are having problems with your husband or wife. At their womb, God was in the business of putting "asunder" or "separation" between you and your mother and father, as it is written:

[Galatians 1:15] - "But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,"

[Genesis 25:23] — "And the LORD said to her, "Two nations are in your womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from your bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger."

I believe you saw "Separated" or "Putting asunder" a child from its mother's womb. She may boast that she carried the child for nine months, and so she has authority or right in the child than his/her wife/husband. But follow God, who put asunder between the man and his father and mother, saying,

[Mark 10:6‭-‬12 NKJV] — But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’ ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.” In the house His disciples also asked Him again about the same matter. So He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.”

To separate from your father and mother as a man is called "Advancement;" but to separate from your wife as a man is called "Divorce" or "Adultery."

The bond connection between a man and his/her biological parents is described as "One Blood" with them; but the bond connection between a man and his/her wife is described as "One Flesh" or "One Body" with her. The Bond called "One Flesh" or "One Body" is stronger and greater than the Bond called "One Blood." Having "One Blood" with another person does not make us one body; but having one flesh makes us one body.

This is even more reason you should run away from fornication or sexual intercourse in immortality: Because it goes beyond making you one blood into making you one flesh or one body with her. Hence, Body-Count, not Blood count.

Better to do blood transfusion, having the blood of a LovePeddler/harlot inserted into your blood stream, for that will only make you to be one blood with the harlot; than for you to have sexual intercourse with a strange woman or harlot and become one flesh or one body with her.

[1 Corinthians 6:16‭-‬18 FBV] — Don't you realize that anyone who has sex with a prostitute becomes “one body” with her? Remember that Scripture says, “The two will become one body.” But whoever is joined to the Lord is one with Him in spirit! Stay away from sexual immorality! All other sins that people commit are outside of the body, but sexual immorality is a sin against your own body.

I hope I find another occasion to show you how your body is your greatest temple or church building to God on earth; and there's no how whatever you do in any temple, church, cathedral, altar, can weigh greater than what you have done within your body. You cannot be keeping a church or temple holy when you have not kept your body holy. You are inside that body even when you are in any temple. Honor and sanctify your own body as if you are doing so for the house of God, even His holy Temple.

[1 Corinthians 6:19‭-‬20 FBV] — Don't you know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit that is within you, that you received from God? You don't belong to yourself—a price was paid for you! So glorify God in your body!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why She's Called, "Woman" by PCHC(op): 11:21pm On Aug 17, 2023

Christianity Etc › Why She's Called, "Woman" by PCHC(op): 11:20pm On Aug 17, 2023
WHY SHE'S CALLED: *WOMAN*


GENESIS 2:23

[NKJV]
And Adam said: “This is now bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man.”

[AMPC]
Then Adam said, This [creature] is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of a man.


The three things Adam called her was directly related to three things Adam called himself or his body parts, in this Bible verse above. The lesson is this,

"Whatever the man was saying to or saying about his wife, he was relating to himself; whatever the man was doing to her he was directly or indirectly doing to his own self or his own body."

In the Bible verse above, Adam called her by three, 3, titles; but out of the three titles, only one title was a general title for her.

**1** When Adam called her "Bone," he also mentioned "of my bones:" This means whatever he will do to her will be counted as what he will do to his own bones. This title, "Bone of my Bones" is not a general title any other man or spirit being can call her, except Adam (her husband) alone can call her this title.

**2** When Adam called her "Flesh," he also mentioned "of my flesh:" This means whatever he will do to her will be counted as what he will do to his own flesh. This title, "Flesh of my Flesh" is not a general title any other man or spirit being can call her, except Adam (her husband) alone can call her this title.

Implication of these two titles above means a man who loves his wife loves his own body (flesh and bones), and the man who hates or abuses his wife hates and abuses his own body. As it is written,

[Ephesians 5:28-32] — "So men ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loves his wife loves himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourishes and cherishes it, even as the Lord loves the church: For we are members of His Body, of His Flesh, and of His Bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined to his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church."

**3** When Adam called her "Woman," he also mentioned "taken out of Man:" This means whatever he will do to her will be counted as what he will do to himself as a Man. This was both the first time Adam called himself "Man" because he called his wife "Woman." This title, "Woman" is a general title every one can call her, even if one is not her husband such one can call her "Woman" because she was taken out of "Man" in general sense without being particular or specific about which Man it was.

Infact, Adam said in the Bible verse above, "She shall (should generally) be called, "Woman," which is a title that suggests she's offspring of a Man.

The "Woman" is like the words "Son of man" or "Daughter of man:" They all refer to offspring of man. Actually, "Woman" means "Taken out of man;" the offspring of man that was taken out of man or caught out of man. This is different from "Come out of man (son or daughter)" because she did not just come out like a daughter, but was taken out or snatched out of a man by external Force (God).

However, not the same man for every woman. Each woman has a different man she was taken out of, relative to another woman. So one woman is different from another woman, answerable to a different man. If you put two or more of them together, they become "Women" or "Taken out of Men (not man)."

A woman's reference to the man she's taken out from is not her father, for she's his daughter; but just the fact that she exist as a female of man means there's a single man that has something already taken out of him that will be completed when he marries her and the two become one body in completion again. Therefore, it's when a woman is married and bears the name of her husband as her surname that the reference would be fully defined as her husband is the man she's taken out from because he's the one to whom she's returned in restitution or restoration of God called "Marriage." Marriage is basically restitution and institution.

So the first two titles Adam called her were "Possessive," showing she belongs to him alone; while the third or general title he said "She shall be called" by others beside himself was a "Collective" title or term. The latter was more like a formal way of addressing her, but the former means she's is Adam's Wife.

You see how "Naming Ceremony" became "Wedding:" Adam just conduct his own wedding in the presence of God even before declaring that others shall call her "Woman."

** Was there a third party or priest to declare/decree them "Man and Wife?" No; for Adam himself declared her "Bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh" which is greater than another man declare them two "Man and wife."

** Was there any wedding dresses or wedding costumes? No; for the man and his wife were naked and were without reproach.

** Were there Witnesses to the marriage? No other human being were there but God and the heavens; and behold thousands of generations after, people witnessed Adam and Eve were truly married and by them was the foundation + institution of Marriage.

That was the Wedding — The First two Possessive Titles He declared and claimed over her, which could not be argued or disputed in any realm or generation, having full ownership and evidence of his entitlement, possession or ownership of her. It's like a man declaring publicly and laying claim over a property that is undisputably his by his own resources and gift of God. A man's wife is basically the man's property, which is why making sure she's fully paid for and rightfully acquired are all that matter most to any wedding in God's Sight. www.peterch.com

Christianity Etc › Re: See Why Iron Is Not Used Inside Heaven, And Iron Is Forbidden On The Altar by PCHC(op): 11:18pm On Aug 17, 2023
engrchykae:
the life of the flesh is the blood
But the resurrected Christ had flesh and bone,but this time,the body wasn't powered by blood but by Spirit.
The life giving Spirit.
Do you code the mystery?
The first Adam was of the earth, earthly; but the Lord Jesus Christ as Second Adam was from heaven, and His Body was the Word of God became Flesh from Heaven. No iron in His Blood, and His Blood is Drinkable indeed as His Flesh is edible.
Christianity Etc › Re: See Why Iron Is Not Used Inside Heaven, And Iron Is Forbidden On The Altar by PCHC(op): 7:57pm On Aug 17, 2023
engrchykae:
scientifically clay is iron,red clay is iron 3 oxide while yellow clay is iron 2 oxide.
And our blood is iron based,hence red tending towards Mars the red one.
The creator used all the minerals in making man.
Iron is not a taboo to the Creator
Thanks, for this. And yet Iron has no revealed use in Heaven. Thankfully, flesh and blood of men do not inherit kingdom of heaven:

Flesh (clay) and Blood (iron) cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither does corruption inherit incorruption [1 Corinthians 15:50]
Christianity Etc › Re: See Why Iron Is Not Used Inside Heaven, And Iron Is Forbidden On The Altar by PCHC(op): 7:51pm On Aug 17, 2023
paxonel:
What is altar and what is heaven?
Is this question rhetorical?
Christianity Etc › Re: See Why Iron Is Not Used Inside Heaven, And Iron Is Forbidden On The Altar by PCHC(op): 7:50pm On Aug 17, 2023
paxonel:
I think you have read so much and have acquired knowledge and come out with ignorance at the other side thereby defeating the purpose why you started reading in the first place
Well, thanks for thinking of me. But what do you think of the focal points pertaining Iron, Clay, God's Materials selection, building and growing?
Christianity Etc › Re: See Why Iron Is Not Used Inside Heaven, And Iron Is Forbidden On The Altar by PCHC(op): 1:50am On Aug 17, 2023
What do you think?

Christianity Etc › Re: See Why Iron Is Not Used Inside Heaven, And Iron Is Forbidden On The Altar by PCHC(op): 1:49am On Aug 17, 2023

Christianity Etc › See Why Iron Is Not Used Inside Heaven, And Iron Is Forbidden On The Altar by PCHC(op): 1:48am On Aug 17, 2023
DANIEL 2:33

its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay. [NKJV]

The lower part of the legs were made of iron. Its feet were made partly of iron and partly of baked clay. [ICB]




That image or statue in Nebuchadnezzar's dream stood on iron legs with feet that were partially iron feet completed with clay. The budgeted iron completed its legs but could not complete its feet, and there was no other remaining metallic Materials that was available to complete the formation of the feet, and so clay was used to fill in the deficit. Either whoever estimated the size or volume of the four metals required to complete the statue underestimated it, or whoever built those metals into the statue mismanaged the available resources of metals, so that it could not complete the entire project as projected: and someone decided to use clay to compensate for the deficiency of metals before the full image of a man statue was built.

God only used a single rib of the man, and built a complete woman just from a rib that was not up to an arm's length; but the builders of that Statue had so much but could not finish it. Why?

[Luke 14:28-30] — "Which of you, wishing to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost to see if he has the resources to complete it? Otherwise, if he lays the foundation and is unable to finish the work, everyone who sees it will ridicule him, saying, ‘This man could not finish what he started to build.’"

I asked "Why" and you quoted "Luke 14:28-30;" I want to know why or how the Lord God Himself used just a man's rib to build a woman that was almost as large as the man, but the builders of the statue in Nebuchadnezzar's dream had so much gold, silver, bronze and iron, and yet the feet of the statue they built were where they hid their inadequacy of metals with clay to makeup.

This differentiates between "The Wisdom of God" as Master Builder and "The wisdom of men of this world."

*1* When men build image or glory of a man, their wisdom at best leads them to choose materials based on "Quality and Quantity." Mind you that's wisdom, but not the ultimate Wisdom.

*2* When God builds image or glory of a man, His Wisdom at least leads Him to choose materials based on "Life, Eternity and Purpose." God is not after Quality or Quantity, infact, God is not a professional Quantity Surveyor: If you ask God to estimate the quantity of materials required to build a structure, God may tell you just one small stone is enough a mansion or a giant. I mean, there's a way God evaluates things differently from how "Professionals" in various fields would evaluate or value them.

So God is not after "Quantity or Quality" but after "Life, Eternity and Purpose" when selecting the materials to use for building. For example, that image in Nebuchadnezzar's dream had legs of Iron: and Iron is technically the strongest metal among the gold, silver, bronze/brass and clay. But clay is the weakest among them, unless burnt thoroughly or hardened. In the feet of that image, the strongest and the weakest materials, iron and clay, were used

But God would rather use clay than use iron in building image of man. Infact, I have not seen or heard anything inside God's heaven is made of Iron: Iron just have no place for use inside heaven or spiritual things, except earthly or carnal things. It is forbidden to allow or raise anything iron on a Holy Altar of God even on earth according to "Deuteronomy 27:5." Heavenly or spiritual things work with Stones, Dust, Precious Stones and Crystals, not Iron. Perhaps the only use of Iron for someone from Heaven is the use of "Rod of Iron" to rule on earth.

Iron is highly strong and cannot easily be broken by some hard metals; and even iron coming from the south may not break iron coming from the north in equal size and momentum. As is written:

[Jeremiah 15:12] — "Shall iron break the northern iron and the steel?"

However, "Iron sharpens Iron" (Proverbs 27:17).

But understand that though tough substance may not easily break iron on earth, soft substance such as air and water do have ways of rusting or corrupting iron, which means they break iron that harder ones could not break with time.

I told you God is not after Quality or Quantity unlike Structural Engineers; rather God is after Life, Eternity and Purpose. Iron does not fit any of these requirements of God in selection of materials for His Building.

*** Life here means the Substance or Stone God will use to build must be able to grow, live and move. Hence, "Living Stone." The "Growth or Growing" ability of the Substance or Stone is what replaces "Quantity" in God's estimation. One reason God could choose a small stone for gigantic project or a rib for the image and glory of man called woman, is because of its living abilities for growth, development and transformation. Not in quantity, but in growth: In the latter part of that Nebuchadnezzar's dream, a small Stone was cut out without hand just as a rib was taken from Adam, and that Stone struck the Image of men by those feet that had both iron and clay, crushing the entire statue: and then suddenly that small stone began to grow, expand, and transform into a great Mountain that filled the earth.

Where those metals or iron finished was where they stop in quantity or size; and therefore, they used clay to compensate for the shortage because those metals could not grow or multiply themselves to increase or reproduce. But see how God built our Body in ways that our cells can both grow and multiply themselves. Even so, the Body of Christ has both members fitly joined together, connected to the Head, and all grows in all things to Him.

[Ephesians 4:15-16] — "But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into Him in all things, for He is the head, I mean Christ: From Him the whole Body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplies, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, makes grow of the body to the building (edifying) of herself in love."

Not a physical church building that cannot grow beyond the size those who built it left or stopped building it; but a spiritual church where even when the builders stop building it, the church will still be growing by itself or edify itself without the builders; and keep growing forever like a Plant that never stops growing. And it will come to pass that not even the builders can take the credit they built the Temple or Church because the Church would have built Herself far above what the builders thought or imagined when they began building till they stopped building Her. So they cannot take the glory for building the Church, but only the honor for building Her Foundation: for all they ever built will best be described as foundation relatively to how much she grew Herself and became; and even the Lord Jesus Christ Himself that will build His Church on this Rock, will just become the Chief Corner Stone among Foundation Builders, for She built Herself.

[Ephesians 2:20-22] — "And are built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the Chief Corner Stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together grows to an holy temple in the Lord: In whom you also are built together for an habitation of God through the Spirit."

*** Eternity and Purpose: These replace Quality in God's selection of materials to use in building. As a result, whatever God builds endures forever (eternal) having both time and purpose for everything in it. As it is written,

[Ecclesiastes 3:14] — "I know that, whatever God does, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God does it, that men should fear before him."

Men can do something and it becomes temporary or pass away, but when God does something it is eternal or forever. People may think God is slow, but He knows the implications of His actions and how whatever He does are not something that can easily be added or subtracted (edited) like men find their works on earth during their times and seasons.

If you understand that eternity is a form of time, you understand Iron cannot stand the test of Time though Iron stands the test of Strength.

At the feet, the Iron members had begun rusting and changing into clay because Iron does not stand test of Time with all its strength. The Feet represent "Endtimes;" and the Iron could not endure through the endtimes or last days. But there are Feet that will do exploits in the last days, including the Feet of the Lord Jesus under whom all His Enemies are made His Footstool in subjection and the Endtimes Christians/Church who are the representative of all who have gone before them on earth. The Endtimes or Last days Christians are His Feet or our Feet.

[Romans 16:20] — "And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen."

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Christianity Etc › Re: How The Head And The Body Are Joined Together by PCHC(op): 4:31am On Aug 15, 2023

Christianity Etc › How The Head And The Body Are Joined Together by PCHC(op): 4:24am On Aug 15, 2023
DANIEL 2:32

This image’s head was of fine gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, [Daniel 2:32 NKJV]

The head of that statue was of pure gold, its breast and its arms of silver, its belly and its thighs of bronze, [Daniel 2:32 TLV]


How the Head and the Body are Joined Together

Notice the "Riot" and not just the "Riches" in the Structures and Makeup of that Statue. If you are looking at riches only you will be captivated by the Gold, Silver and Bronze, while looking at the physiques of the naked body of that image in Nebuchadnezzar's vision. But going past the riches, we judge as those who have the Spirit of Christ Jesus, and judges through Him. Something's wrong with the Body of that image, because that thing would be wrong if found in the Body of Christ:

"The Lower Segments/Parts are not connected to the Head, though they are connected to the Body: and as a result, there exist Riot of Body Segments/Parts in the Image's naked body"

Well that was the Image Nebuchadnezzar saw in the dream, but that should not be the Image we see in the Body of Christ Jesus.

In that Image Nebuchadnezzar saw, Gold, Silver, Bronze, Iron and Clay, were segments of the its body, and they do not mix or blend. They fit together but do not blend or mix together; and therefore they are in riot with each other, though they together form the complete image. It's like a man or woman who's face or head is yellowish in complexion, but having chest that is whitish, having belly private parts and thigh that are brownish or darker, legs that are whitish, then feet that are color rioted with substances that neither mix nor agree with each other. Thus, "Disharmony."

The Body of Christ is membered but not divided. Division comes from members joining together to themselves without joining to the Head. As you saw in the picture of that image in the dream of Nebuchadnezzar, the bronze and the silver segments (together with the iron and clay) were neither connected nor joined to the Head though they are joined to the body. Members were joining members of the same body, without joining the Head of the Body.

In a lay man's language, that's like a situation when people are joining the church but they are not joining the Christ or Head of the Church. They have connections to other church members and to the leaders of the church including those they call their father in the Lord, but they are neither connected nor joined to the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, who is the true Head of the Church.

[Colossians 2:19 FBV] — Such people are not connected to the Head that directs the body, nourished and joined together through the body's sinews and muscles. As the body is united together it grows the way God wants it to grow.

The way God made our human body, though bones, blood, flesh and breath, are basically different Substances, they are well connected or joined together simply because they are all joined directly to the Head or Mind. The Head communicates with every external part of the body of a healthy man, through nerves, neurons and hormones, and the heart does the internal connections through blood, lungs through breath. The Bones, Flesh, Blood, and Breath, all have direct connection with the head and the nervous system maintains direct communication between any part of the body and the brain (head).

It is by connecting to the Head we properly connect to the rest of the body; for this reason, Christians or Church members who know their pastors/priests but not know their God nor connected directly to the Lord Jesus Christ, those are the Christians who are usually used by the devils to create divisions that favors doctrines of their churches or pastors, but they hardly know God nor Spirit of God. They would argue, fight or die for their church's doctrines or pastors/priests, believing they are the true mediators between them and God.

[Ephesians 4:15‭-‬16 GNT] — Instead, by speaking the truth in a spirit of love, we must grow up in every way to Christ, who is the Head. Under His control all the different parts of the body fit together, and the whole body is held together by every joint with which it is provided. So when each separate part works as it should, the whole body grows and builds itself up through love.

The Bronze and Silver in the top Bible verse above did not care about connecting to the Head, but are concerned about being a part of the Body and defending their own territories or doctrines which somehow is beneficial to the body, but then that turned the entire body into a "Monument" (Statue) and not a "Movement."

The Church is supposed to be a Movement, not a Monument; Church of living people, not Congregation of the dead or statues.

Christianity Etc › Re: From A Rib To A Woman: She's A Man's Wife by PCHC(op): 9:40am On Aug 14, 2023

Christianity Etc › From A Rib To A Woman: She's A Man's Wife by PCHC(op): 9:39am On Aug 14, 2023
GENESIS 2:22

[NKJV]
Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.

[TLV]
Adonai Elohim built the rib, which He had taken from the man, into a woman. Then He brought her to the man.


*Line 1* One thing never left the rib that was taken from the man, that was, "The Mark of the Man on it" or "Tagging the Man as the Source whence the rib was taken;" — "Credit to its source or to the man from where the rib or bone was taken," continued to be part of the description and mark of that bone wherever God took it to. And God built the rib He took from the man into a woman, and the word "Woman" means "Taken out of Man."

*Line 2* What are you doing with another man's wife or with a woman that is already joined to another man in sexual act or in marriage? Don't you see wherever she goes she's carries a label that she belongs to the first man alive she was joined to sexually and separated from? What you see in Bible verse above was how sticky that tag, "Taken from the Man" remained on the rib, the bone or the individual, no matter how much God changed and transformed it into something or someone else. The Conversion of God upon her did not eradicate from her the mark of the man she was taken from. The only way to make peace was for God to do "Restitution" or "Restore her back to the man" from whom He took her or it: This is the Force and Foundation of Marriage, that is, the First Restitution which was also an Institution.

*Line 3* She's another man's wife, another man's property; and you took her, and inside her you were found as one of her "Body Counts" when she's another man's wife, even if her husband gave her to you? You are a "Dead man" because of that woman you took that's another man's wife. As it is written,

[Genesis 20:3 NKJV] — But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, “Indeed you are a dead man because of the woman whom you have taken, for she is a man’s wife.”

Though the man and his wife herself willingly gave her to you as a man, that's not withstanding — She's another man's wife, you must not touch her nor marry her. And though the man and his wife are divorced or separated by any court or law, that's not withstanding — She's another man's wife, you must not touch her nor marry her.

[Luke 16:18] — “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced from her husband commits adultery.

*Line 4* She's another man's wife, another man's property; Taking her for yourself is the foremost kind of covetousness or lust:

[Deuteronomy 5:21 GNT] — “‘Do not desire another man's wife; do not desire his house, his land, his slaves, his cattle, his donkeys, or anything else that he owns.’

Taking her for yourself is worse than being a hungry thief:

[Proverbs 6:30-33 BSB] — "Men do not despise the thief if he steals to satisfy his hunger. Yet if caught, he must pay sevenfold; he must give up all the wealth of his house. But he who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself. Wounds and dishonor will befall him, and his reproach will never be wiped away."

*Line 5* The same Lord God who took the rib from the Man and built it into a Woman, and return or restored her back to the Man He took her from while she never stopped being "Taken from the Man" nor stopped belonging to the man she was initially joined together with: That same Lord advises and warns all men, saying:

[Matthew 5:27‭-‬32 GNT] — “You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But now I tell you: anyone who looks at a woman and wants to possess her is guilty of committing adultery with her in his heart. So if your right eye causes you to sin, take it out and throw it away! It is much better for you to lose a part of your body than to have your whole body thrown into hell. If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away! It is much better for you to lose one of your limbs than to have your whole body go off to hell. “It was also said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a written notice of divorce.’ But now I tell you: if a man divorces his wife for any cause other than her unfaithfulness, then he is guilty of making her commit adultery if she marries again; and the man who marries her commits adultery also."

Christianity Etc › Re: The First Time Adam And Eve Saw The Real Face And Visage Of Satan The Devil by PCHC(op): 9:49pm On Aug 11, 2023
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Christianity Etc › Re: The First Time Adam And Eve Saw The Real Face And Visage Of Satan The Devil by PCHC(op): 7:26pm On Aug 11, 2023

Christianity Etc › The First Time Adam And Eve Saw The Real Face And Visage Of Satan The Devil by PCHC(op): 7:25pm On Aug 11, 2023

The First Time Adam and Eve saw the Real Face and Visage of Satan the Devil, and became afraid of him


[1 Adam+Eve 27:12] - No sooner had Adam said this, than an angel from God appeared unto him in the cave, who said unto him, "O Adam, fear not. This is Satan and his hosts; he wishes to deceive you as he deceived you at first. For the first time, he was hidden in the serpent; but this time he is come to you in the similitude of an angel of light; in order that, when you worshipped him, he might enthrall you, in the very presence of God."


Adam had scarcely finished speaking when an angel from God suddenly appeared in the cave, warning him, "Fear not, Adam. This is none other than Satan and his followers. Just as he deceived you in the past by assuming the form of a serpent, this time he has come to you disguised as an angel of light. His intention is to ensnare you once more, even in the presence of God, when you offer him your worship."

The same Satan that came in the form of the Serpent also came in the form of an angel of light:

** Among animals, Satan could come as a Serpent or dragon;

** Among angels, Satan could come as a Angel of light;

** Among humans, Satan could come as a Man or Woman.

As we proceed in this book of Adam+Eve, we may later see where the same Satan returned to Adam and Eve as a man, claiming he was the first man God created or there are other men and women before Adam and Eve.

Just know Satan the Devil can assume these forms and disguises. And know that when you worship Satan in any form he comes even by mistake, then even the presence of God cannot save you from the Satan you worship. Therefore, never worship any man, angel or animal, even their images, lest you worship Satan.


[1 Adam+Eve 27:13] - Then the angel went from Adam, and seized Satan at the opening of the cave, and stripped him of the feint he had assumed, and brought him in his own hideous form to Adam and Eve; who were afraid of him when they saw him.

After that, the angel departed from Adam and apprehended Satan at the entrance of the cave. Swiftly, the angel removed the disguise Satan had adopted, revealing his true repulsive appearance. Once transformed, the angel presented him in his ghastly form before Adam and Eve, causing them to experience fear upon laying eyes on him.

You how the Angel of God disgraced Satan before Adam and Eve, and all the demons with Satan could not help him. The Angel stripped Satan off his disguise or costume for appearing like angel of light, as a man would strip a woman off her artificial hair and costumes/cosmetics that makes her appear more beautiful than she really was. When the angel of God stripped Satan, he brought Satan into the same cave Satan was afraid to enter, and there inside the Cave of Treasures the angel of God revealed the true face and appearance of Satan the Devil without his disguises.

That was the first time Adam and Eve or any man truly saw the true face, form and appearance of Satan the Devil without his disguises. And they saw Satan was very ugly and hideous. We have been deceived into thinking Lucifer is beautiful or Satan is very pretty. But even that is a lie and false projection of Satan the Devil. Granted he used to be beautiful before he fell; but now Satan the Devil is simply the ugliest that knows how to makeup and disguise with costumes or possessing of willing bodies to appear very handsome and get people worship or trip for him because of his beauty (false). Infact, Satan has industries that offer beauty, beautification, transformation of men + women into appearing more beautiful and fairer than they were either by sorcery or by surgery, by cosmetics or by costumes.

But remember, Adam and Eve were terrified by the horrors from the real face and real appearance of Satan the Devil. Satan has a dreadful visage that's both horrifying and hideous. Devil is Evil


[1 Adam+Eve 27:14] - And the angel said to Adam, "This hideous form has been his ever since God made him fall from heaven. He could not have come near you in it; therefore did he transform himself into an angel of light."

Understand that Lucifer did not remain Lucifer when God made him fall from heaven because he was disfigured and had a cursed and hideous visage, and thus the most repulsive being. He couldn't have been able to approach Adam and Eve with his true visage, and thus he came as the Serpent and here came as angel of light when he's not an angel of light. If he is still "Lucifer" then it would not be said he transformed into an angel of light because being Lucifer would mean he is truly an Angel of light or Morning Star.

But he is no longer Lucifer, and hence any of his disguises or claims of being an angel of light or Lucifer is actually falsehood of what he is not.

Remember this, there's something called "Transfiguration" and there's "Disfigurement:" Transfiguration means God will change the forms, shapes and appearance of those He glorifies and rewards within the eternal kingdom of God, changing them into the glorious Image of God from glory to glory. There's a Change more real than death, because it is written, "We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed "transfigured, translated" in the twinkling of an eye."

On the flip side, sinners that shall be damned shall be stripped of their beauties or disfigured, and become abhorrible or disgusting to the righteous and saints. The friends of Job hardly recognized him afar when they came to seat with him seven days without speaking to him because he was disfigured and it was horrible. It was called "Captivity of Job:" and only God could turn that away.

Christianity Etc › On The Mountains, Down The Valley by PCHC(op): 1:18am On Aug 11, 2023
On the Mountains, Down the Valley


1 ENOCH 26 - {Ethiopic Enoch}

[Chapter Twenty-Six]


26:1 — Then I said, What means this blessed land, all these lofty trees, and the accursed valley between them?

26:2 — Then Uriel, one of the holy angels who were with me, replied, This valley is the accursed of the accursed for ever. Here shall be collected all who utter with their mouths unbecoming language against God, and speak harsh things of His glory. Here shall they be collected. Here shall be their territory.

26:3 — In the latter days an example of judgment shall be made of them in righteousness before the saints; while those who have received mercy shall for ever, all their days, bless God, the everlasting King.

26:4 — And at the period of judgment shall they bless Him for His mercy, as He has distributed it to them. Then I blessed God, addressing myself to Him, and making mention, as was meet, of His greatness.


[1 Enoch 26:1] — Then I said, What means this blessed land, all these lofty trees, and the accursed valley between them?

As Enoch gazed at the magnificent expanse of land, with its majestic trees reaching towards the heavens, a question emerged from the him, "What is the meaning behind this sacred land, with its grandeur trees, and the cursed valley that lies between them?"

The Plateaus or mountains were blessed grounds, but their valleys were cursed grounds. To descend into the Valleys meant to descend into accursed places, and to ascend or abide the heights of the mountains among the great trees rooted on those Mountains meant to dwell on blessedness.


[1 Enoch 26:2] — Then Uriel, one of the holy angels who were with me, replied, This valley is the accursed of the accursed for ever. Here shall be collected all who utter with their mouths unbecoming language against God, and speak harsh things of His glory. Here shall they be collected. Here shall be their territory.

In Uriel's answer to Enoch's question, that valley was perpetually damned, and it's the most cursed of all cursed places. That valley is where all who spoke disrespectful words against God and spoke evil of His glory shall be gathered and trapped in the deep and narrow pit.

[Joel 3:12-14 GW'20] — "Wake up, you nations. Come to the valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations. Cut them down like grain. The harvest is ripe. Stomp on them as you would stomp on grapes. The winepress is full. The vats overflow. The nations are very wicked. There are many, many people in the valley of decision. The day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision."


[1 Enoch 26:3] — In the latter days an example of judgment shall be made of them in righteousness before the saints; while those who have received mercy shall for ever, all their days, bless God, the everlasting King.

Uriel continued to reveal more on that, implying that, During the final days, there will be a righteous judgment upon them, which will be witnessed by the saints. Conversely, those who have been granted mercy will eternally bless and give thanks to God, the everlasting King, throughout their entire lives.

The righteous judgment of the wicked shall be glaring to the saints, and the end of the unrighteous shall be witnessed by the righteous.

[Isaiah 66:24] — Then the righteous will go out and witness the deadness of sinners and those who have rebelled against Me. The worms that eat them will not die. The fire that burns them will not go out. All humanity will be disgusted by them."


[1 Enoch 26:4] — And at the period of judgment shall they bless Him for His mercy, as He has distributed it to them. Then I blessed God, addressing myself to Him, and making mention, as was meet, of His greatness.

The saints shall not be mourning nor weeping over those who die the second death, nor mourning when they witness the deadness of the sinners, ungodly and rebellious people; for tears shall be wiped away from the eyes of the saints, and human sympathy or empathy shall be removed from them, so that true Compassion and Mercy of God will fill the saints and not the distorted human sympathy/empathy. The only mercy that shall thrive shall be "God's Mercy" and not humans' mercy. And God's Mercy will be high up inside heaven for men to come up to heaven to access the Mercy of God by the throne of grace, to access the faithfulness of God when they reach the clouds, and access the Righteousness of God when they come up the great and sacred Mountains, because in that deep valley there shall be no mercy but wrath/judgment. Therefore, the way to mercy will be the way of ascending or climbing up the higher grounds, away from the ditch or pit below:

[Proverbs 15:24 GW] — "The path of life for a wise person leads upward in order to turn him away from hell below."

Therefore, one of the songs the Saints shall sing of the mercies of the Lord God in those days shall include this:

[Psalms 36:5-6,9] — "Your Mercy, O LORD, is in the heavens; and Your Faithfulness reaches to the clouds. Your Righteousness is like the great Mountains; your Judgments are a great Deep: O LORD, You preserve man and beast. … For with You is the fountain of life: in Your light shall we see light."

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Christianity Etc › Sitting Committee Of Captives by PCHC(op): 12:33pm On Aug 10, 2023

Sitting Committee of Captives


EZEKIEL 3:15

[NKJV] — Then I came to the captives at Tel Abib, who dwelt by the River Chebar; and I sat where they sat, and remained there astonished among them seven days.


Why do I find men sitting idle outside by the streets in the morning, doing nothing but either discussing politics, gossipping about someone or group, watching and marking those passing by who are going to work or business, and when I pass by them without talking to them nor greeting them, it will seem as if I am being disrespectful and malicious? Must elderly people be sitting by the gates and streets doing nothing meaningful to add value, but expecting anyone who passby to greet them or gift them?

Going by this Bible verse alone, I say those Captives in Babylon were neither ladened under forced labor nor tasked unlike those in the bondage of Egypt before Moses came to them. They just sat idling by the river Chebar, doing nothing but gossip and remembering Zion: and the only thing their taskmasters required of them to do for them, they still would not do it because they were showing religious supremacy or holier than you attitude towards those who carried them to captivity.

You were carried captives into their land, but there they did not abuse, did not use you to build their cities, neither did they exploit you as the Egyptians did to some of your ancestors; rather the Babylonians recruited some of your talented men and promoted them in government power, brought some of your royal sons into university of the king, allowed you to carry your musical instruments and to sit by the River as long as you wanted during the captivity or exile, without forcing you to do works, to dig mines, to build cities, but the only thing they pleaded from you was to sing just one of the songs of Zion for them. But as soon as they asked you for song you rebelliously hanged your musical instruments, and you even despised them, saying, "How can we sing the Lord's song in a strange land?" If the land is a strange land does that mean the Land is not the Lord's Land? Is the earth not the Lord's and the fullness therefore? What is wrong with singing the Lord's song in the Lord's land that is strange to you?

[Psalms 137:1-4] — "By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yes, we wept, when we remembered Zion. We hanged our harps on the willows in the middle thereof; because there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion. How shall we sing the LORD's song in a strange land?"

The Lord of the songs Himself had described you as "Rebellious People" and He sent Ezekiel to you, not to require a song from you that sat by the River of Babylon called Chebar in Tel-Abib, but to show you "Thus says the Lord." For "Thus says the Lord" is far greater and more important than "All the Songs of Zion."

But in the Bible verse above, though Ezekiel was borne of the Spirit to a Tel-Abib to the Captives by the river, Ezekiel only sat with them seven days among them by that river being astonished and without uttering any word of thus says the Lord to them, as the three friends of Job sat seven astonished at him:

[Job 2:12‭-‬13 BSB] — When they lifted up their eyes from afar, they could barely recognize Job. They began to weep aloud, and each man tore his robe and threw dust in the air over his head. Then they sat on the ground with him for seven days and seven nights, but no one spoke a word to him because they saw how intense his suffering was.

Ezekiel was showing astonishment by sitting in silence among them for seven days, whereas God sent him to show "Thus says the Lord" not show "Shocking Astonishment" to the captives. For this reason, God may begin to warn Ezekiel that he was supposed to be the watchman among them, and he's responsibility is to hear the Warning of God and prophesy, preach or warn those people, and not sitting in astonishment among them seven days without speaking the Word or delivering the message to them.

Christianity Etc › Eyes Witness by PCHC(op): 10:00pm On Aug 09, 2023
DANIEL 2:31


"You, O king, saw, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before you; and the form thereof was terrible." AKJV

O great king, you witnessed the presence of a magnificent statue. This statue, with its dazzling brilliance, stood in front of you, and its appearance was awe-inspiring.



Eyes-Witness

The King was sleeping but saw what stood before him. Someone had experienced a vision where an image or statue appeared like a being (an angel or demon) before him in his room while he slept on his bed. Though the king's eyes were physically closed in sleep, they were opened in a trance. Thus, he was very aware of what stood before him and his environment, even while sleeping.

[Numbers 24:4] — "He has said, who heard the words of God and saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but with his eyes open."

The statue or sculptured image was not a living creature, but it stood before the king with a greatness that surpassed the king's own greatness. It had a brilliance or brightness that exceeded any brightness known to the king, and a form that inspired fear in a fearless king like Nebuchadnezzar. Somehow, the king felt before this giant statue what King Saul felt before the giant Goliath of Gath for forty days and forty nights. Saul used to be the tallest man among those over whom he presided as king, until he encountered the taller Goliath. Similarly, Nebuchadnezzar had not seen any king or man who commanded more respect in stature and appearance than himself until he beheld this gigantic statue and image that he could not look down upon.

Now, God does not approve of His people making graven images or statues to bow down to or worship. However, in the dream, God used a molten image or statue that possessed attributes of gods. If it appeared in physical form, people would have been compelled to bow down and worship it. The reason is that the image had these four great attributes associated with gods:

1. The image/statue was great (magnificent).
2. The image/statue had excellent brightness.
3. The image/statue stood before the king, not bowing before him. Later, the same king would command all those who used to bow before him to instead bow to a similar image at the sound of music because even the king gave his glory and honor to that standing image.
4. The image/statue had a terrifying or awe-inspiring appearance.

Joseph's sheaf stood up in his dream, and even in the dream, his brothers' sheaves bowed down to the image or sheaf of Joseph. Their stars also bowed down to the appearance of Joseph in the dream. Such dreams, including the one where others bow before an image, are always about kingdom, kingship, or rulership. However, if those people, images, or symbols were to do the same things in physical reality, it would constitute idolatry or idol worship.

In the next chapter, Nebuchadnezzar sought to reproduce the ideas of the dream's image in physical form and have everyone bow down to a similar image. But though that may be overlooked in a dream, it is an abomination for Christians like Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah.

In the Bible verse mentioned above, Daniel was telling and convicting the king of what he saw as an "Eye-Witness." Does it occur to you that there will be an exposition of those things your eyes saw or witnessed? Someone else will see through your eyes while your eyes remain with you, and someone will tell you that they saw what you saw when no one else saw those things with you. Scientifically, there are ways to capture the last images seen by a recently deceased person and extract what they saw last before they died.

The coming Judgment of God has ways of indicting men by showing them exactly what/who they saw and what/who they did not see. I am not talking about seeing nude ones or pornographic content or observing people's shame. Instead, I am talking about seeing heavenly things, heavenly people, or eternal treasures. These things or people keep records of those who saw them from the earthly realms and how much of them were seen or known by those on earth now. Remember they are invisible for some reason, and their being invisible means they are very sensitive to being seen by those whom they are by default hiding from.

Between a woman that's hiding her nude conservatively and another woman that is a stripper or nude public actress, who do you think will be more sensitive and keeping record of those who have seen her bumbum or nudes? Is it not the woman that is conservative and hardly revealing her nudity, so that she could count how many people have seen certain parts of her private or invisible parts and how much those who saw those about her know? Does the stripper or public nude actress care about who or how many have seen her navel or buttocks when she made those parts of her visible and glaring to all men that cared to look? Even so, most invisible and spiritual things are very sensitive to being seen, heard or noticed by those from physical world, and their hiding or invisible tendencies entail keeping records of being seen.

It's similar to reading, playing, or watching content on certain websites that keep records of views, impressions, visitors, and identify specific individuals who accessed their content. Spiritual heavenly things/people are even more sensitive and keep records of the degree to which you saw them, visited them, and what you did when you saw them. It's not just your eyes that know you saw them and what you saw about them, but they also know when your eyes and light saw and connected with any part of them, along with the transactions that occurred as their virtues interacted with your eyes and knowledge of them.

The Priest and Levite were unaware that there was a record that bore witness to them seeing the wounded and helpless man on their way. They thought they only saw the man without the man seeing them, so they followed another path or turned their faces, pretending they never saw him. Be cautious if you constantly see heavenly treasures and people but act as if you did not see them, either from shame or a refusal to identify with them, or from being afraid or you hate/envy the ones manifesting them. For those things also know you saw them, or those people shall know later you saw them at those states, stages, times or conditions. The goats of the Nations shall be told when they saw the least of the brothers/sisters of the Lord Jesus Christ, but ignored, despised or neglected them for whatever motive or reason: because those people and their messages/treasures are parts of heavenly eternal treasures.

Therefore, Daniel declared to Nebuchadnezzar what the king saw in that dream because that was a heavenly vision, and the dream bore record of how, what and when the king saw it.
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Procedure To The Man's Suitable Wife by PCHC(op): 9:57am On Aug 09, 2023
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GENESIS 2:21

[NKJV]
And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place.

[ICB]
So the Lord God caused the man to sleep very deeply. While the man was asleep, God took one of the ribs from the man’s body. Then God closed the man’s skin at the place where he took the rib.


*1* Have you ever experienced situation wherein you slept without any wound, but when you awoke you discovered a slight cut on your skin as if someone used razor or blade to tear your skin while you slept? Some people described such painful slight cut on one's skin as activities of witches or demonic blood sucking agents that operate on people's body while they sleep. However, I am not here to discuss about them, but show you from the Bible verse above that God was the first Person who began to create cut on a sleeping man and extracted or harvested a part or portion of the inwards of the sleeping man's body. So it's not only witches or demonic beings that create cuts on sleeping man's body, but even God did it and Doctors still do so in anesthesia during operations or procedures, and it could also be caused by insects. However, it's expected that God's cut on the sleeping man's body should not be left open but closedup and healed.


*2* Metaphorical representation of the Bible verse above using medical terminology, such as Anesthesia, Caesarean Section, Procedure and Incubation:

** "The Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam": — This can be understood as the induction of anesthesia, where Adam was placed in a deep state of unconsciousness.

** "He slept": This refers to Adam being in a state of anesthesia, unaware of his surroundings and temporarily devoid of sensation.

** "He took one of his ribs": — This like a surgical procedure, similar to a Caesarean section CS, where a surgical incision is made to extract a specific anatomical structure.

** "Closed up the flesh in its place": — After removing a rib (considering a literal interpretation), the surgical site is closed up by suturing or using other methods to close the incision and restore the integrity of the surrounding tissues.

** Incubation,: — typically refers to the process of providing a controlled environment, such as an incubator, to support the growth and development of premature infants or the cultivation of microorganisms in a laboratory setting. Well, here it was the rib bone that was to be developed and transformed into Woman.

But I am not here to talk Medical things, but far more greater things that are spiritual things and eternal realities. Therefore, unlike the Anesthesia that meant the induced man is unaware, I will show how Adam was both in deep sleep and yet he's aware.


*3* The Sleep in the Bible verse above was the very first sleep all mankind slept, seeing all mankind were inside Adam when he slept, but all mankind were not inside Adam when he awoke from that sleep: some part of mankind continued sleeping inside the woman being made, even after those in Adam awoke. He was just the man when he slept, but when he awoke there was a man and there was another of him, a woman (taken out of man).

*4* It was a "Deep Sleep of Adam" bodily, but not a "Slumber of Adam" spiritually. That deep sleep God caused only knocked off the body sensation of Adam, but not his consciousness. This implies, though Adam was in a deep sleep, Adam was still aware.


*5* To understand point *5* better, I will separate three kinds of literal or bodily sleepness that God causes/induces men to fall in.

¹—A— Repose — This is Sleep of Rest, Sleep of Refreshing or Healing Sleep. For examples,

[Ecclesiastes 5:12 NKJV] — The sleep of a laboring man is sweet, Whether he eats little or much; But the abundance of the rich will not permit him to sleep.

[Psalms 127:2 ICB] — It is no use for you to get up early and stay up late, working for a living. The Lord gives sleep to those He loves.

²—B— Slumber (Stupor) — Whenever Sleep is associated with Slumber in the Bible, that sleep is not wise. As you can see, the first sleep I mentioned as repose is good or sweet, but when there's slumber then that sleep associated with slumber becomes a problem. The reason is because "Slumber" means "Closed or Blindfolded Eyes or Mind." A man sleeping is expected to close eyes to sleep, but when closing his eyes goes deeper into closing his mind or spiritual eyes (visions), that becomes "Slumber." E.g.

[Psalms 132:4] — I will not give sleep to my eyes Or slumber to my eyelids,

[Proverbs 6:4] — Give no sleep to your eyes, Nor slumber to your eyelids.

[Proverbs 6:10-11] — Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep: So shall your poverty come as one that travels, and your want as an armed man.

[Isaiah 56:10-11] — "His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. Yes, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are pastors that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his headquarter."

[Nahum 3:18] — Your pastors slumber, O king of Assyria: your nobles shall dwell in the dust: your people are scattered on the mountains, and no man gathers them.

[Romans 11:8] — According as it is written, 'God has given them the spirit of slumber (stupor), eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;' to this day.

³—C— Trance — This is the Sleep that's opposite of Slumber, because it surprisingly opens eyes of the sleeping man better rather than shutting his eyes, or it makes the sleeping man see or have vision better instead of making him blinder. Infact, Trance is more Visions or Consciousness of a sleeping man/woman. When a sleeping man or woman is even more aware and more sensitive while he/she is in a deep sleep like Adam in the top Bible verse above. Well not all Trance involves Sleeping, but some Trance do.

Is that not a paradox, when a man that's deeply sleeping is even more awake and more aware than another man who is not sleeping in the same environment? How can that be? It's like a man who is blind physically but sees through the Spirit of God; a reality wherein a blind man is more sensitive, sharper and more aware than a man who walks by physical sightings. Examples:

Adam was in deep sleep bodily, but he was very aware and awake as he beheld bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh taken out of him. We cannot say Adam was in "Repose" because his body was not resting in the sleep, for his body was suffering and losing the parts that became woman for him. And we cannot say Adam was in "Slumber" because he knew where the Woman was taken from and how one of his bones where taken, though was in deep sleep.

Abraham too experienced "Trance of Deep Sleep:" for Abraham was in a deep sleep bodily, but God began talking to the sleeping man and he was both hearing God, Hearing the Land Covenant and seeing the Fire that passed through the meat he kept beside him while he was in deep sleep [Genesis 15:12-21]

This woman too experienced "Trance of Sleep:" for though she was in sleep, her heart was awake, aware and sensitive to her Lover's voice knocking on her door in an out of sleep reality:

[Song of Songs 5:2 ICB] — I sleep, but my heart is awake. I hear my lover knocking. “Open to me, my sister, my darling, my dove, my perfect one. My head is wet with dew. And my hair is wet with the dampness of the night.”

Daniel too experienced "Trance of Deep Sleep:" for Daniel was in a deep sleep bodily, but Angel kept talking to the sleeping man and he was hearing all the angel was saying though he was asleep

[Daniel 8:18] — "Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright."

Saints who have died and are buried in their graves are basically in "Trance of Deep Sleep;" for though they are dead they are sleeping and actively conscious in Trance or Entrance of realities/ consciousness: So are they until resurrection of their dead bodies.


*6* Essentially, the man failed to find a suitable helper for him among all the living creatures that came from outside him, but here was the time for the man to stop searching outside him but to search inside him, not with the eyes of flesh but by God in the spiritual.

*7* The Helper Suitable for the Man was already a helper inside the Man; the Companion for the Man was already a Component of the Man. She was not a new comer or stranger in the business of being with the man, helping the man or being companion of him. She had been doing those things for him and with him as "One of His Ribs (One of His Helpers-Ribs) protecting his heart. She was only taken out of the man and transformed to continue in greater scales and other dimensions what she's been doing inside him since the day the man came into being a living soul. Therefore, she as the suitable helper for the man has actually been one of the sisters (rib bones) of the man before she became his wife.

I am not saying you marry your sister (close kin), but saying you should be able to call whom you marry "My Sister" as Abraham could call Sarah or as Isaac could call Rebekah, or as Adam could call Eve, "Bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh."

Did you see "Sisterhood" in her, or you just saw a girlfriend or girl you want to marry in her?

[Proverbs 7:4-5] — "Say to wisdom, You are my sister; and call understanding your kinswoman: That they may keep you from the strange woman, from the stranger which flatters with her words."

*8* There are four titles of truth you should be able to call a woman before you as a man should marry her as "Suitable Wife or Helper." These titles are 'My Sister' (She's Supportive and Protective as a Rib Bone), 'My Love' (my Darling or my Soulmate), 'My Dove' (She's harmless and gentle), and 'My Undefiled' (still a Virgin). Of all these four, is she ¼, ¾ or she completes the "4"?

[Song of Solomon 5:2] — I sleep, but my heart is awake; It is the voice of my beloved! He knocks, saying, “Open for me, my sister, my love, my dove, my undefiled; For my head is covered with dew, My locks with the drops of the night.”


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Christianity Etc › Re: Reason Why Ezekiel's First Flight Was In Bitterness And Heat Of His Spirit by PCHC(op): 1:18pm On Aug 08, 2023

Christianity Etc › Reason Why Ezekiel's First Flight Was In Bitterness And Heat Of His Spirit by PCHC(op): 1:17pm On Aug 08, 2023
EZEKIEL 3:14

[NKJV]
So the Spirit lifted me up and took me away, and I went in bitterness, in the heat of my spirit; but the hand of the Lord was strong upon me.




I usually cite two different Bible versions, but in this occasion I could not use another version apart from the family of KJV because of the use of the words "Bitterness" and "Heat" of Ezekiel's spirit: other Bible versions were using "Anger" as if Ezekiel's spirit was angry while the Spirit Himself bore him.

*1* Like Ezekiel in the Bible verse above, a man of God experienced standing before the Lord while your life is being reviewed or judged before His throne, and how the man found it both terribly inconvenient and yet very comfortable for him to stand before Him because though it's very bitter and painful, the Spirit of God was mightily doing His Work as "The Comforter."

*2* In the Bible verse above, Ezekiel went in bitterness and heat of his spirit, while the LORD Spirit carried Him; but the Hand of God was strongly upholding and supporting him. The Hand of God was me​lio​rating intense uncomfortable pressure Ezekiel felt while on board that flight that was supposed to be his most glorious.

*3* Why was Ezekiel flown but in bitterness and heat of his spirit? Is it always bitter or painful to be carried by the Spirit followed by the Rabim of Living Creatures and the Wheels? Was there something in the LORD Spirit or in Ezekiel's spirit that caused bitterness and heat against the small spirit of Ezekiel when the LORD Spirit held or pulled the spirit of Ezekiel?

*4* To answer such questions, let's look at other instances of other men of God who were taken, carried or caught up (raptured) by the LORD Spirit in flight but not of private Jets or aeroplanes:



— *A* — Adam was taken by the LORD from the ground and put into the Garden of Eden: No bitterness or painful heat felt.

— *B* — Enoch was taken by the LORD and none of him was found because God took all of him: No bitterness or heat felt.

— *C* — Elijah had a reputation of being taken by the LORD Spirit and taken to places where none of the prophets of God could tell he had gone to. Where God used to carry Elijah to used to be a mystery or hidden secret even to other prophets of God or men of God in his days (1 Kings 18:13). The only far they came to that was to tell when God was about to take Elijah away, but not where God was taking Elijah to (2 Kings 2).

Those were the only miracles of Elijah that Elisha never performed nor repeated with all the double portions of Elijah's spirit mantle (grace and anointing) upon him — He was not Getting carried by God or by the LORD Spirit as Elijah.

— *D* — Ezekiel (son of man): Atleast I should mention five different occasions and instances of the LORD SPIRIT carrying Ezekiel (son of man), showing destination where he was taken to:

— — 1 — — In the top Bible verse above, Ezekiel was carried or taken by the LORD Spirit, and the "Destination" for that flight was "Tel-Aviv." This was the one he went in bitterness and heat.

— — 2 — — In "Ezekiel 8:3," Ezekiel was carried or taken by the LORD Spirit, and the "Destination" for that flight was "Jerusalem."

— — 3 — — In "Ezekiel 11:24," Ezekiel was carried or taken by the LORD Spirit, and the "Destination" for that flight was like returning him back to "Babylon/Chaldea" among the captives.

— — 4 — — In "Ezekiel 37:1," Ezekiel was carried or taken by the LORD Spirit, and the "Destination" for that flight was "Valley of Dry Bones," where he prophesied to raise dry bones.

— — 5 — — In "Ezekiel 43:5," Ezekiel was carried or taken by the LORD Spirit, and the "Destination" for that flight was "Court of the House (Temple) of God" yet to come.

— *E* — Philips was taken by the LORD Spirit from the African or Ethiopian Eunuch (Acts 8:39-40), who was first converted and baptized into Christ because Paul was converted and baptized.



*5* So here's why Ezekiel felt bitterness and heat in the top Bible verse above:

"The Reaction of the Scroll or Book he had eaten"

Remember that scroll or book contained writings of lamentation, mourning and woe; but when Ezekiel ate it the taste in his mouth was sweet as honey; and then the LORD told him to cauae his belly to eat it also. Ezekiel did not immediately began to sense the bitterness and heat pressure of what he had eaten, for he only felt the honey or sweetness of the Written Words of Scriptures he had digested. However, as soon as the LORD Spirit lifted him, his sensitivity increased and so were the bitterness or heat pressure.

The goal of the bitterness and heat pressure in his spirit was for him to vomit or speak those words he had eaten in preaching or prophesying. A man who ate something that aggitates inside his stomach will either have urge to defecate or pressure to vomit. In this spiritual case, spirits do not defecate, and so they tend to vomit out of the abundance of their heart by the mouth speaking.

Use this case of John eating a Scroll or Book by the Angel as E.g:

[Revelation 10:9-11] — "And I went to the angel, and said to him, Give me the little book. And he said to me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make your belly bitter, but it shall be in your mouth sweet as honey. And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. And he said to me, You must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

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Christianity Etc › Re: Reasons God Is Pouring Revelations And Knowledge Of Secrets In Our Days by PCHC(op): 10:13pm On Aug 07, 2023

Christianity Etc › Reasons God Is Pouring Revelations And Knowledge Of Secrets In Our Days by PCHC(op): 10:13pm On Aug 07, 2023
DANIEL 2:30

But as for me, this secret has not been revealed to me because I have more wisdom than anyone living, but for our sakes who make known the interpretation to the king, and that you may know the thoughts of your heart. [NKJV]




After Daniel unveiled the reason the dream came to the King in the preceding verse, Daniel here unveiled the reason the secret of the same dream came to Daniel in this Bible verse above.

*1* According to the preceding verse, "Why did the dream came to the king?" — The dream came to the king to answer the thoughts that came into his mind asking what shall be after.

*2* According to this Bible verse above, "Why did the secret (revelation and interpretation) came to Daniel?" — The secret came to Daniel, not because Daniel was the wisest man on earth then but rather, because Daniel was called/chosen to lead all the other wise men to fulfill their "Sakes + Purpose."

*3* There was a place for Wisdom to acquire secrets to the wise; and Daniel's Wisdom indeed earned him knowledge of many secrets.

[Ezekiel 28:3] — "Behold, you are wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from you:"

But this secret was way above that which Daniel's Wisdom or the wisdom of any man else in the entire world could comprehend.

*4* It therefore means, the revelation of that secret needed something higher than Wisdom among men to come: What then is higher than Wisdom among men, that could bring the revelation of such deep mysteries or secrets of God?

*5* This what is greater than Wisdom among men, and could bring from God to men what wisdom of men could never bring: It is called "Purpose" (of God).

*6* According to this top Bible verse above, the Secret (Mystery or Knowledge) was not revealed to Daniel for any wisdom, but for collective purpose (sakes and task) of God to be accomplished.

*7* Have "Purpose" rather than "Possession," and build "Sake" rather than "Self." - Daniel received that grace on behalf (sakes) of the entire wise men, whom God would use to declare to the same king what was in king's heart thoughts.

*8* The king had the thoughts in his heart, and yet God wanted to declare the king's heart to him — Why is it even necessary for God to show a man his own heart? Why show me my heart that is within me?

*9* The judgment and conviction of God involves showing you your own heart, so that you can know what you have or had in your heart. I know Scientists say no man can physically and literally see his own heart or brain without reflection and still be alive. But God is in a business of showing everyman and everywoman his/her own heart. I tell you, many people are shocked when they see just a little of their heart in dream or vision, where they do things they never thought they could do.

[Jeremiah 17:9-10] — "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings."

There's a reason the Lord Jesus could die for men, but could not commit Himself to men: He Loved men, but He not trust men. He entrusted His broken Body and Shed Blood to men in Holy Communion, but when it came to entrusting His last Spirit before death He did not commit that His Spirit to men but into the Hand of God the Father He committed or commended His last Spirit, though He was dying for men and not dying for God. So why love men so much but trust them so little?

[John 2:24-25] — "But Jesus did not entrust (commit) Himself to them, for He knew all men. He did not need any testimony about man, for He knew what was in a man."

*10* I too confess like Daniel that the much I know in Christ I did not receive because of any wisdom or righteousness I have, but for the collective sakes of our generations and times, to fulfill purpose of God among men in our days and age when Knowledge shall increase in all ramifications, including His Revelations.

Christianity Etc › Genesis 1:20 by PCHC(op): 12:00pm On Aug 07, 2023
SUITABLE NAMES BUT NOT SUITABLE HELPERS


GENESIS 2:20

[NKJV]
So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him.

[BSB]
The man gave names to all the livestock, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam no suitable helper was found.



This Bible verse above contains the concise story of Adam's early Success and Failure together, before any woman emerged into being. His Task towards all those living creatures succeeded, but his quest among all those living creatures failed. His Task towards the Living Creatures was "Designating/Nominating them;" while his Quest among them was "Searching/Seeking suitable helper for him or seeking suitable wife for himself among them."

Adam was like a man of God who successfully ministered to the congratulation God brought to him, but among the congregation he ministered, there was no suitable wife or helper for him; and more importantly Adam did not fraternize nor convert any of that congregation (living creatures) into suiting his personal needs. Adam did not say, "When the suitable (desirable) is not available, the available may become suitable (desirable);" Adam had no beastial instinct, and nothing like heaven help those who help themselves: Adam did not find suitable helper for him, even though Adam found helpers among the living creatures. To Adam, a helper must be suitable, perfect or comparable to him, and not just anything that has vagina/femininity.

*1* Not all who have suitable names to you are suitable helpers for you: They may bear your names on them, but they are not suitable helper for you. This summarized the verse above to Adam

*2* Designating: — This was the first everlasting Task Adam completed, for he both began and finished giving names to all domestic, avian and wide animals, God made and brought to him to name. Designating Living creatures that came to him was the task Adam both began and completed in the Garden of Eden, without any suitable helper with him or for him.

*3* Nominating: — At that level in paradise (Garden of Eden), Designating Living Creatures meant Nominating them: and Adam designated or nominated all of them. It's like the Lord Jesus Christ giving you a new/choice name in heaven, and its implication for you being named or nominated in the Book of Life.

*4* This reality dismisses the man-made philosophy that states "Behind every successful man, there's a woman:" No woman or helper for or with him when Adam accomplished nominating everlasting names for living creatures God brought into the first heaven (Garden of Eden) to Adam.

*5* The 'Helper' was suitable for Adam Carnally (Humanly), but spiritually the 'Helper' was not expedient for Adam to accomplish his spiritual or heavenly tasks in the Garden. There was nothing Adam had to do in that Spiritual Garden that required this 'helper' suitable for Adam to do: For Adam was already fully equipped with all Spiritual Helpers or Grace he needed for Spiritual Tasks.

*6* In the Bible verse above, Adam was like a man of God who faithfully ministered to all the needs of all the people God brought to him in the presence of God, but yet he himself was lacking or barren and in need of certain provision of God that was not humanly possible.

*7* Therefore, though Adam was experiencing trial or barrenness (lacking of wife/helper), Adam was the first man of God who accomplished the Ministry and Message though he found not what he was looking for or searching for. He fulfilled all that God assigned for him to do, and what remained was God meeting his.

[Luke 17:7‭-‬10 GNT]— “Suppose one of you has a servant who is plowing or looking after the sheep. When he comes in from the field, do you tell him to hurry along and eat his meal? Of course not! Instead, you say to him, ‘Get my supper ready, then put on your apron and wait on me while I eat and drink; after that you may have your meal.’ The servant does not deserve thanks for obeying orders, does he? It is the same with you; when you have done all you have been told to do, say, ‘We are ordinary servants; we have only done our duty.’”

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