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Choi bad behavior in the kitchen plenty ooo

From collecting all the moin moin leaves to scrape off the moin moin stuck on it.... to licking the mixing bowl anytime my sister baked... or is it when I used to remove the eyes of all the fish heads in the pot?

The worst ever was this... arriving home after school, entered the kitchen and sighted a pot on the shelf way beyond my reach. I could smell it was egusi soup. I knew there were bound to be many obstacles inside as was my sisters prefered method of cooking. Home Alone! I dragged the yam mortar close to the shelf. climbing in, I was still a few inches short of the handles, but could move the pot around from the base. So i moved and moved. I was desperate. closer and closer, expecting that the pot would go from the shelve to my head and I could bring it down safely. in the blink of an eye, I was covered with warm soup, the pot bouncing off my head. Pepper in my eyes soup on the floor.... U can Imagine the rest. My punishment was extended for over a month!

Orikinla: From archeology, anthropology and ethnology of the Art and Culture of Ife, the origins have been traced to Around 350 BC and that date is centuries before Odùduwà, the son of the last Ogiso (one of the Sky Kings dynasty of Benin) ran away from Benin kingdom for the fear of his life as the only son of his father the king. His Edo name was Izoduwa meaning "I have chosen the path of prosperity", corrupted by the Yoruba's as Odùduwà). He later sent Oranyan (also known as Oranmiyan), one of his sons by the Yoruba princess Okanbi to Benin Kingdom around 1170 AD.
Oranmiyan later became the first Alafin of Oyo.
From the above chronological analysis, you can see that Odùduwà is not the father of the Yorubas, because the cradle of Yoruba civilization is Ife and not Benin. And Ife Art history is centuries older than when Odùduwà arrived from Benin Kingdom in the 10th century.
[size=14pt]"The art of Ife and Benin is so important because one gives birth to the other. The Ife art was the most ancient in the forest region of Nigeria, simply because the Ife civilisation goes as far back as 300 - 500 BC. Therefore, it had developed a lot of artefacts, which marks the history of Ife.
Ife later gave birth not only to Benin, but also to the art of Igbo, the Onitsha art, even going as far as to the hinterland of the Igbo, Igbo Ukwu."
~ Dr. Omotoso Eluyemi, director of National Museums and Monuments.[/size]
Odùduwà did not descend from any Sky on a ladder of chain. What Odùduwà said was he was a descendant of the Ogisos, the Sky Kings dynasty of Benin. But oral mythology now turned it into descending from the sky (heaven).
Even if Odùduwà was a fugitive from Mecca, then he must have come after Abū al-Qāsim Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh ibn ʿAbd al-Muṭṭalib ibn Hāshim (Arabic: ابو القاسم محمد ابن عبد الله ابن عبد المطلب ابن هاشم‎; c. 570 – c. 8 June 632), popularly called Prophet Muhammad, founder of Islam.
From ethnology, there is nothing Arabian or Arabic about Odùduwà, so he did not come from Mecca, but Benin.
The Sungbo Eredo Walls discovered in the south-west of the Yoruba town of Ijebu-Ode in Ogun state is more than 160 kilometres (99 mi).
The height difference between the bottom of the ditch and the upper rim of the bank on the inner side can reach 20 metres (66 ft). And as a construction project, it required more earth to be moved than the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt. The Eredo was built in 800–1000 AD.
Eredo sounds more like Benin to me than Yoruba, and similar to the awesome "Iya", the Great Walls of Benin, the largest man-made structure lengthwise on earth and also the largest earthwork in the world, made up of moats and ramparts, larger than Sungbo's Eredo and longer than the famous Great Wall of China.
Case closed.

HOLD IT THERE!!! Copy and past without a knowledge of what you are blabbing is detrimental to your health and reputation.

Before Benin, there was Ife. Chronologically, Ife's history is divided into 3. The first was Ife Oodaiye, Ile Owuro (the land of the most ancient days where the dawn was first experienced). the second was Ife Ooyelagbo(Ife, the city of survivors), created after the deluge that destroyed the first Ife. The third is Ilé Ifè (Nothing related to love; yoruba for love is ìfé), which was brought about by the merging of 13 existing communities by Oduduwa after defeating them in battle, becoming the first Ooni of the united kingdom.

What Oduduwa said was that bla bla bla,... WERE U THERE Oduduwa’s was believed to live before the deluge, and descended with his kith and kin from their lifeboats, which anchored, on Oke-Ora (Oramfe Hills) (EAST of Ife) by means of chain ropes.

No dey give us copy and paste dey form historian for here. all of us sabi use google oga.

Tradition tells us that Oduduwa had many children, male and female. Oduduwa’s first child was a daughter, and mother of Olowu, Asunkungbade the founder of Owu Kingdom. Towards the end of Oduduwa’s reign, He became blind and lost four of his powerful sons. On the demise of Ooni Odua, his eldest living son Obalufon Ogbogbodiri succeeded him as Ooni. Before his death, Ooni Odua, he reformed the government and crowned all his children and sent them abroad with orders to show filial obedience to their brother who he first crowned his successor as Ooni. At his death, it was common knowledge that next to Obalufon, Godo or Onibini was next, and Oranmiyan was his last born. Oduduwa crowned his children thus:
1. Ogiso, alias Godo or Onibini – Oba Ado (Benin)
2. Orangun – Onila or Oba Ila (Igbomina)
3. Alake – founder of Egba Kingdom
4. Alaketu founder of Ake and Ketu etc
5. Obarada who was driven to found the Kingdom of Dahomey
6. Oni Nana who founded his kingdom in the old Gold Coast (Ghana)
7. Owore – founded Otun Kingdom (destroyed by the Fulani)
8. Oranyan (later the progenitor proper of Yorubas), Oloyo or Oloyooro who founded the Oyo Kingdom
9. Awujale (Olugborogan or Ogboroganda) founder if Ijebu Kingdom
10. Deji Ajaponda – founder of Akure Kingdom
11. Olowu son of Odudwa’s daughter – founder of Owu Kingdom
12. Owa Obokun – founder of the Ijesha Kingdom.

The list goes on to 26 of the crowns Oduduwa handed to his children.

dorox: Christianity does not condemn one to a life of poverty, neither does it teach that being a christian would open doors to material prosperity as it is being taught by modern day pentecostal churches.

Your point being.....?

I do not believe religion condems one to a life of poverty. If it does, how will you follow the Gods commandment to help and provide for the needy. A lazy man is a lazy man, religion or not. There are wealthy atheists who live morally upright lives, far better than most religious icons like pastors priests imams etc.
Religion is no excuse for poverty and laziness. Pastors are not poor. Why should you be?

Was at Obudu in December 2012. Really lovely place, but accessibility is difficult. REALLY DIFFICULT. The the air strip in Obudu is closed (following the military aircraft that crashed in 2006). Its easier to get to Obudu from Abuja by road which we did than from Calabar Airport.

Though its no longer a cattle ranch (all the cattle being dead and gone) As a mountain resort, it still is a world class location. Talk about sitting in the clouds and getting high... literally I mean!

Accessibility is a discouraging factor for tourists. But Obudu Mountain Resort comfortably beats hands down most European tourist destinations.

Thank you.

I’m new on NL, and tough very green, I’ve been reading lots of threads expecially relating to culture and history. Ere are my two cents on this. Though I’m Yoruba, I bear no tribal sentiments or ethnocentric tendencies against any one…. Except Caucasians, be them human or dogs… Sue me.

Ile-Ife according to Yoruba belief is the earthly origin and fountain of all; it is also the earthly end to which all must return to be told what to do next. Mysteries and legends abound. Infact, German explorer Leo Frobenius concluded that Ile-ife was the lost Atlantis rediscovered, and that Yoruba were descendants of that lost civilization. In reality, “history cannot help because Yoruba is a pre historic race. Ife traditional history maintains that from Ife scattered the various species of mankind. An idea that finds expression in the name Oyibo the term early Yoruba refered to the white man by, meaning Ooyi-bo i.e. the breeze/weather/climate has scorched this man white. (Personally, I believe the story of Yakub, the black scientist). Did you know white men turn black when they die?

Research on early Yoruba history tells that the personage Oduduwa migrated to Ile-Ife where where he reigned and held sway, established the Yoruba dynasty, and Oduduwa could not have been his original name. As tradition has it, he had several children who in due time became the progenitors of the various clans, when taken together are the Yoruba people. Oral traditions tell us that early ife history is divided chronologically into three. The first was Ife Oodaiye, Ile Owuro (the land of the most ancient days where the dawn was first experienced. Tradition tells us that this Ife ended as a result of a flod. The survivors formed the nucleus of the second Ife, Ife Ooyelagbo(Ife, the city of survivors) this existed until the arrival of elements from the east whose attempt to seize power led to a bloody struggle between the strangers led by Oduduwa and the aboriginies led by Obatala. Oduduwa conquered and founded Ile-Ife (Ife of peace). Oral tradition of Ile Ife tells us that many communities existed in the second Ife. Each having its own Oba and each Oba had his Chiefs. Archaeological field survey shows that 13 of these communities have been revealed. Oduduwas victory le to the centralization of these communities and became the first Ooni(ruler). The word Ooni was never used until the first centralised government in Ile Ife. Oduduwa’s was believed to live before the deluge, and decended with his kith and kin from their lifeboats, which anchored, on Oke-Ora (Oramfe Hills) (EAST of Ife) by means of chain ropes.

Tradition tells us that Oduduwa had many children, male and female. Oduduwa’s first child was a daughter, and mother of Olowu, Asunkungbade the founder of Owu Kingdom. Towards the end of Oduduwa’s reign, He became blind and lost four of his powerful sons. On the demise of Ooni Odua, his eldest living son Obalufon Ogbogbodiri succeeded him as Ooni. Before his death, Ooni Odua, reformed the government he crowned all his children and sent them abroad with orders to show filial obedience to their brother who he first crowned his successor as Ooni. At his death, it was common knowledge that next to Obalufon Godo or Onibini was next, and Oranmiyan was next. Oduduwa crowned his children thus:
1. Ogiso, alias Godo or Onibini – Oba Ado (Benin)
2. Orangun – Onila or Oba Ila (Igbomina)
3. Alake – founder of Egba Kingdom
4. Alaketu founder of Ake and Ketu
5. Obarada who was driven to found the Kingdom of Dahomey
6. Oni Nana who founded his kingdom in the old Gold Coast (Ghana)
7. Owore – founded Otun Kingdom (destroyed by the Fulani)
8. Oranyan (later the progenitor proper of Yorubas), Oloyo or Oloyooro who founded the Oyo Kingdom
9. Awujale (Olugborogan or Ogboroganda) founder if Ijebu Kingdom
10. Deji Ajaponda – founder of Akure Kingdom
11. Olowu son of Odudwa’s daughter – founder of Owu Kingdom
12. Owa Obokun – founder of the Ijesha Kingdom.

The list goes on to 26 of the crowns Oduduwa handed to his children.

According to tradition, Oonile of Ife is the Father of all Obas in Yoruba land. In 1937, when the Conference of Yoruba Chiefs was inaugurated in Oyo where Obas of Yourba land including the Oba of Benin, the Ooni was declared and appointed the Primus interpares. Until the late thirties, Yoruba Obas refered to themselves as brothers, though their kingdoms waged war against each other. The kiriji wars ended with the insistent declaration of the Owa Obokun that the Aalafin of Oyo was his brother, not subordinate. In 1903 dispute between the Elepe and Akarigbo, they refused the authority of the Aalafin as matters paternaining to giving crowns, but both subjected themselves to the decision of the Ooni. In 1916, when Aguobasimi was installed as the Oba of Benin (after the death of his father in exile), messengers of the Ooni went after him with a series of requests and delivered the Ooni’s message as thus: ‘Your Father greets you’ (see Nigerian National Archives NNA: Oyo Prof I, File 133, 24th May 1916)

According to Ife tradition, Oranmiyan led an expedition to Benin and subdued the people. Reigned for 13 years and and returned to Ife, not understanding the language, but promised to give them a king from their own blood. He took a Benin wife, and the result of that union was Eweka I of Benin.

Up till today, the site is called Orun Oba Ado in Ile Ife where oranmiyan set out to found the Yoruba dynasty in Benin. And it is to this spot that the heads of the kings of Benin were brought for burial. The last time this tradition was kept was with the burial of King Adolo.

The picture up there is not this location though. It differs significantly from the original site.