Politics › Re: MASSOB Warns Danjuma, Oba Of Lagos by PenSniper: 2:31am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Amazo: Hahahaha! This is quite funny . I've said and will continue to say that the SS as a geopolitical entity has its unique tribes and distinct cultures that are different from the SE. Not only this, the social ideology and political aspirations of the SS is completely different from the SE. So it's incredibly amusing how the ibos keep trying to usurp the uniqueness of the SS's cultural identity and replace it with theirs. Ibos can keep subtly claiming the SS all you want but they are different, this is a fact of life. This political subtlety won't work because the SS have a mind of their own and they have proven themselves repeatedly over time to be smart people and can't be fooled by such political maneuverings with malicious intent.
But the idea is this, the seeming political "Frankenstein friendship" created between the SE and the SS was and is due to each region's calculated pursuit of its engendered political and socioeconomic goals, and their incapacitation and inability under the Nigeria's political framework to accomplish these political and socioeconomic goals. So the question is this: what does the SE want? Biafra!!! This is largely the ibos idea of political and socio-economic independence. The SE can only achieve this through secession. On the other hand, what does the SS want? 100% resource control or at least a substantial chunk of the derivation formula. This is the SS idea of political and socio-economic independence. The SS can achieve this either by secession or by true federalism, where each region is given full autonomy over its resources and predetermined contributions are made to the center. From the perspective of a political venn diagram, the socioeconomic and political goals of the SE and SS are akin to two distinct sets, with a common intersection of "secession", which is the shaky foundation upon which the fragile inflammable friendship between the SE and SS is built. Each region sees the other as a political tool to accomplish its own individual aim. And that's why ibos always include the SS in their plans and arrogant vocal clamoring for self-actualization (just like you did now). Ibos can't just desist from dragging the SS into their "Biafra business". But the interesting question to ask is why: why do the ibos always associate the SS with their socioeconomic and political ambitions? Well, maybe it's because the ibos can't achieve secession without the SS...or can they? Oh what the heck am I saying, of course the SE can achieve its goal of independence without the SS. Then why does the SE, as a self-appointed hero, keep making the SS its political sidekick in trying to wrest its political independence from its hated and despised self-professed formidable villain called Nigeria - it's #1 foe? Simple, it's because of the OIL. The SE have their sights set on SS oil. Anyone can deny it all they want, but the truth is everybody in Nigeria likes free oil money that just so happens to be in SS territory. Of course, it's no astronomical science that hundreds of billions dollars revenue annually can do lots of magic to any independent state, especially an African country. But it seems this is just another usual political miscalculations of the SE, because if joint secession were to become reality because the SS will never accept to be a part of Biafra and never allow the SE access to joint ownership of any drop of oil in its territory. So if the SE is dreaming about building Biafra with SS oil, then by all means push the snooze button and keep dreaming 
As for the SS, as mentioned earlier, its socioeconomic and political goals can be achieved through either secession or true federalism. Now, forming an opportunistic political alliance (albeit temporal) with the SE who are hellbent on realizing Biafra is a preferred path for secession. This way, they play sidekick to the "heroic" SE that will set itself at the forefront of constituting a political nuisance to Nigeria up to the extent that Nigeria will get frustrated and bequeath its prodigal son its inheritance of statehood and send it packing from its territory. If this were to happen, then the SS has ingeniously achieved its aspirations with the smallest deployment of its resources: manpower, assets...etc (didn't I tell you they're are a smart people and they play smart politics too). The alternative means is "true federalism". Under this arrangement the SS can have 100% resource control and in turn make contributions to the center; or at worst. be given a substantial derivation formula than what its getting currently. My guess is anything around 75% in this case and the SS will be satisfied. Under this scenario, the SS gets to eat its cake and have it. That is, they wouldn't and don't need to secede from Nigeria; and truth be told the SS do not want to secede from Nigeria. Give them total or much greater resource control and the SS will gladly continue with "One Nigeria". Because except for the problem of resource control, the SS ordinarily have no subconscious hate for Nigeria unlike the SE, who have vehemently refused to get over its case of retribution against Nigeria for the unfortunate civil war of 1967. Now, true federalism is the political future of Nigeria, the direction it's heading to. So in time, the SS if it holds on, will eventually get what it deserves. But right now isn't ripe due to the fact that the militant mafias are still very much active and extremely powerful forces negatively influencing the region's socioeconomic and political framework and huge obstacles to its development. There's a sensible reason the civilized world doesn't want a nuclear armed Iran; same way it would be a disaster to Nigeria to let the autonomous control of the SS resources fall into the crop of militant mafias currently bedeviling the region. After such are neutralized in terms of limiting their political and social influences, or put on shorter and shorter leashes like the ACN has been and is doing to OPC in the SW, then autonomy can follow in the SS. This is common sense.
Therefore, how ever you look at it, the SE is on its own in its self-made journey to its promised land of Biafra. Your subtle and open plans to carry the SS along won't work. In time, the SS will let you walk alone in the political wilderness. BRAVO. Succinctly put. The cacophony of noise from the Igbo club since the elections subtly portray the SS as being in league with the SE but discerning minds know this is not so. Unfortunately for them, they still see that segment of the country on the same template of 1966. Let them dream on. |
Politics › Re: MASSOB Warns Danjuma, Oba Of Lagos by PenSniper: 2:15am On Apr 16, 2015 |
[quote author=justNonso post=32759346]why much hate of Igbos in dis country, from day 1 of post independence the north and west had had major lead in d Nigeria politics enjoying the benefits of nationalists like Nnamdi azikwe, anthony enahoro fron Edo, herbert macaulay who stood radically against the intention of colonial Lords to stay put, while the hausas and Yorubas were busy been loyal and leaking the white man's ass. Now the former hv now become subject of hate and caricature. Or was it not awolowo that started regional politics in d country with the emergence of the (AG) action group in 1951 with the party slogan as egbe omo oduduwa, then followed by (NPC) northern peoples congress same year with slogan as 'one north, one people irrespective of tribe and religion. Both parties had regional objectives. However, the (NCNC) national convention of nigerian citizens formed in 1944 with Nnamdi Azikiwe as its head had national objective which was aimed at arousing the political consciousness of the people and independence. D origin of d hatred on d Ibos today was as a result of Igbo dominant in various most envied positions in Nigeria prior to d departure of imperial Lords, that was because then the ibos were d most educated in d country. Ur forefathers spread d gospel of hate on d Ibos accusing them of various offences on d ground of what the. In one interview ahmadu bello was asked if he would appoint an ibo man if he had a vacant position? He said and I quote that " unless there is no northerner left to be employed. Why so much hate on d Ibos to me d Ibos are d most successful tribe in Nigeria that's because d fed Govt doesn't care abt the region and they hv succeeded ad mist all odds. D hausas are not hated for boko haram, d yorubas are not hated for been saboteurs, betrayals, cowardice, so why d hate on Ibos. Most industrious, creative, talented, independent, most traveled civilized, major developers in Nigeria. Why the so much hate on Ibos. U all been jealous of the Ibos and without ur Nigeria biafra can survive. And for ur information is d most brave tribe in d country and doesn't fear any body.[/quote
Sorry, this forum is not for the half-educated. |
Politics › Re: MASSOB Warns Danjuma, Oba Of Lagos by PenSniper: 2:05am On Apr 16, 2015 |
iiiyyyk: Is it tru dat 90% 0f people making hate statement here are forest dwellers in western nigeria? Who are afrad of igbo dorminance?
An angent has been beging me to come and buy 10, 000 hecters of land at ogbomosho at N50,000/hecter. To help alleviate poverty among forest dwellers. The so-called agent might have made the offer to you because he knows descendants of Apes are best suited to forest dwelling. Your nature is not compatible with city life. The Ghanaian government sent you packing from an entire market recently. Currently, the South Africans are at your heels in some cities. |
Politics › Re: MASSOB Warns Danjuma, Oba Of Lagos by PenSniper: 1:53am On Apr 16, 2015 |
Cwaya: [color=#004517] What exactly did the igbos do to become a pain in your ass?
People who were silent throughout the election till the Oba statement.? Did you hear them threaten to vote for pdp in lagos gubernatorial election before that Oba statement??
They were on their own !!
The only wrong they did was to vote for their candidate of choice (GEJ), and they became fools eh.
Make una rewind una memory and recall how this all started.
As for Uwazuruike them, Make una free biafra first. Lets try and build Naija.
#ProudlyIgbo [/color] Why are you such a shameless liar like your kinsmen. Lieing over an issue thats still very fresh. Did the igbos in Lagos not demand for the position of deputy governor, threatening to vote against any party that failed to succumb to their threat ? Is your memory so short or are you being rather mischievious ? Truely you people are a pain in the ass, the weeping tribe of Nigeria. |
Politics › Re: MASSOB Warns Danjuma, Oba Of Lagos by PenSniper: 1:41am On Apr 16, 2015 |
raumdeuter: [size=18pt]Or what? I thought every warming comes with a statement of what you would do if they don't comply. But these cowardly wrapper tying men can't even muster enough cojones to give a proper warning[/size] What do you expect of perpetual chest-beaters ? |
Politics › Re: MASSOB Warns Danjuma, Oba Of Lagos by PenSniper: 1:34am On Apr 16, 2015 |
smilyice: What's is BIAFRA? A group of noisemakers who fleaze their gullible victims of their money. |
Politics › Re: MASSOB Warns Danjuma, Oba Of Lagos by PenSniper: 1:22am On Apr 16, 2015 |
chynie: well said sir, i salute u. but what is MASSOB sef A bunch of nincompoops who are only good at issueing altimatum that are never backed up with action. |
Politics › Re: MASSOB Warns Danjuma, Oba Of Lagos by PenSniper: 1:19am On Apr 16, 2015 |
shachris: massob is finally becoming sensible. ? ? ? |
Politics › Re: Buhari Has Drawn The Battle- Line With South-east, South- South. —intersociety by PenSniper: 11:48am On Apr 15, 2015 |
stonemind: Seriously I don't understand why they have to bring this to front page, it make no sense to me until I see the quote where buhari draw the so called battle line they a ranting about. Search me bro, am totally fazed. But then the bottom line is that Nigeria can never be one in spirit and substance. Why our so-called leaders cannot see the wisdom of our experimenting the less violent option of con-federation beats me hollow. Nigeria is a project that can never work. Aside from the negative tendencies of the people of the SE, the current political arrangement leaves no hope for an Igbo presidency in the next several decades. After the incoming team, nobody can ask the VP not to contest and he will have to pick his vice from say the NC. That is a minimum of 20 and a maximum of 24 years from now, barring unforeseen circumstances, before a possible Igbo presidency. |
Politics › Re: Buhari Has Drawn The Battle- Line With South-east, South- South. —intersociety by PenSniper: 11:33am On Apr 15, 2015 |
hummerwise: I have seen people talk rubbish on this site. But this is epic Nothing epic about it. It is their in-alleniable right if they so wish. |
Politics › Re: Buhari Has Drawn The Battle- Line With South-east, South- South. —intersociety by PenSniper: 11:29am On Apr 15, 2015 |
akthedream: I am from SE...but I want to let you know that most hate comments you see against Buhari.who is yet to be sworn in..are from Bigots..mostly from SE..The Igbos...majority of them are saddist and trouble makers..they love being in the midst of controversie...they are also cowards because they always want to join themselves with the South south..I know its mainly because of the oil"oyel"...if igbos can hate and discriminate themselves calling one part OSU(an outcast)...then who is buhari or any other person in other part of Nigeria to complain about being hated by igbos...if not for the extremist and fanatics in the North,I would have said that Igbo's are the worst tribe in Nigeria...not all of them though..I have met so many nice Igbos..yea really nice igbo friends that make you think either they are mixed or they didn't grow up in igboland.. On your last sentence, yes there are some nice and sane Igbos who are enlightened going by their attitude but my candid observation is that they are mostly from Imo state. My honest opinion. |
Politics › Re: Buhari Has Drawn The Battle- Line With South-east, South- South. —intersociety by PenSniper: 11:19am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Three of the signatories to this trash claimed to be barristers-at-law. That a so-called barrister could write and append his signature to such a disjointed, ranting, paranoid and bigotted trash writes a volume about the tribe they claim to represent. They made disparaging remarks against a man's alleged "many utterances" without as much as quoting just one of such statements. Such a long garbage by frustrated irritants that carries no weight, makes not a single sense, is only fit for the refuse dump. |
Politics › Re: Buhari Has Drawn The Battle- Line With South-east, South- South. —intersociety by PenSniper: 10:58am On Apr 15, 2015 |
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Politics › Re: South Africans Attack Nigerians In Durban And Other Cities. ..pics by PenSniper: 7:41am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Notyourb1tch: I really can't believe your comment. Was this neccessary? You are just as bad as the people doing such acts. Its necessary to serve as a warning and to teach as a lesson. Some Nigerians in SA have told me that Nigerians without valid papers could only get jobs with Igbos and the jobs are such as drugs, etc but should the police raid and arrest them, their Igbo employers wiĺl leave them to their fate. So it's a justifiable comment. Everybody knows the major tribe that stigmatise Nigeria the world over. Just recently, they were given the matching orders from a major market in Ghana. Its only a matter of time before it becomes the normal norm whereever you have them in large numbers outside their ancestral home. Deal with it. |
Politics › Re: Why I Hate Going To Lagos by PenSniper: 12:45pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
deeptechcool: The op is not yoruba. JK....just kidding Yes, he is an impostor. |
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Politics › Re: FFK ALREADY ENJOYING HIS MONEY FROM GEJ-PICS by PenSniper: 12:45am On Apr 14, 2015 |
I foresee some busybody people developing hbp because of FFK. |
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Politics › Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by PenSniper: 6:51pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
Proudly OODUA. |
Politics › Re: I’ll Accept Defeat In Good Faith ─ Agbaje by PenSniper: 11:13am On Apr 13, 2015 |
[quote author=Osezzua post=32658972]You would have made some sense, had you not included those vulgar words. [/quotep]
The oil of the ND is not the same thing with Oil and Gas industry. |
Politics › Re: I’ll Accept Defeat In Good Faith ─ Agbaje by PenSniper: 8:14pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
BraniacX: Good point
You'll refer back to this question in the nearest possible future
And by the same logic, Lagos remains "NO MAN'S LAND" try and chase us out if you dare Lions, elephants, tigers, leopards, warthogs, are the most fearless beasts in the forest. They would stand their own and fight to the death. But when the forest is set ablaze, they will all flee, mind you not run, but flee for dear lives. Every bastard from the Southeast is free to bluff now but when you begin to feel the heat, you won't wait to take anything of yours. I prefer my enemy to under-estimate me. I only pray that you, in particular, resides in Lagos. That would serve as an impetus. The Hutus of Rwanda and Balakas of CAR thought too much of themselves before starting a fight only to regret in the end. Those who fail to learn from history live to regret and those whom the Gods want to destroy they first make mad. Who am i to tell you not to make yourself a sacrificial lamb for something that WILL NEVER be yours. Keep on dreaming, no hassle in that. |
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Politics › Re: (yoruba/igbo) Nigeria Politics Ended Our Childhood Friendship Today by PenSniper: 6:35pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
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Politics › Re: Ambode Wins Lagos Governorship Election, Succeeds Fashola by PenSniper: 6:23pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
JK would have won this election. It is clear more people wanted him but he blew it by taking actions that offended Yoruba sentiments. He lost to protest votes from his own kinsmen. I know because i and my neighbours in our estate were going to vote for him but we all turned against him in the election week because we saw him as a potential modern Afonja. Never again shall we allow abominations on our soil. He may come back when Nigeria eventually splits. |
Politics › Re: Photos: Asari Dokubo And MASSOB Leader Hold Private Meeting by PenSniper: 5:50pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
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Politics › Re: I’ll Accept Defeat In Good Faith ─ Agbaje by PenSniper: 5:22pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
BraniacX: You're both mad and daft..........who does it belong to? Did your oba adress igbo's only or non yoruba's in general See these paperweight yoruba's forming hardcore because you think you now have backing from the centre abi? E go over una very soon............make una try am.......una go see say we Niger Deltans ehn, we be different type of animals  If you are sure it belongs to you alone, then what stops you from taking it by force if you are not cowards ? |
Politics › Re: Oba Akiolu: Nigerians In Washington-DC Protest (photos) by PenSniper: 5:20pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
millionboi: nd thy r contestin 4parliment post......are u sure u r ok Contesting by protesting ? Sick half-illiterate. |