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Rilamaka: Mr man, I see nothing, only speculations, no validated research, no generalised approved researched, only bunch of homosexuals trying to naturalise their disgusting behaviour. I repeat no animal is homosexual.

Sorry to disappoint you Mr Google Maybe in another gay fantasy world.

Yes no animal is homosexual but they have and exhibit homosexual tendencies. so why are you denying what is there? So scientists made this one up when over 1500 species are involved? Please don't be dishonest

Rilamaka: Humour me, sorry there are no homosexual animals..... until u create one. Cursed fellow Sorry to say that you are doomed forever, u better invest in pampers cos that a.n.a.l won't last long

Google "homosexuality in animals" and deny what you see.

Rilamaka: [/b]

1. What animals? Please be specific.

2. You why you are a bigger fool and more ignorant than I am in all of this? Did anyone talk about gender in micro organisms? Hell no, If you were smart enough (as you project yourself to be) you would have deduced my concept of sexuality in relation to reproduction as per micro organisms. FYI micro organisms only reproduce SE.X.UALL.Y and ASEXUALLY, now its a shame that even the tiniest of living organisms with single cells do not recognise the concept of homosexuality. Not to talk of a human being (who is supposed to be far more sophisticated than all of this organisms and animals, behaviour wise). The natural instinct of every living organism is SURVIVAL, and reproduction is a part of survival. If micro organisms, animals and human beings bend towards homosexuality, then extinction is bound to happen, this is a complete opposite of SURVIVAL instinct (which is natural) you see.

BTW is reproduction not a major characteristic of a living organism? M R N I G E R D? (Assuming you studied Biology in secondary school). If you can't reproduce cos of your s.e.xual preference, then its not wrong not to classify you as a living being. But since you are a living being and yet choose this behaviour that is against nature, then its only normal that I classify you as a Mentally Unstable individual.

My case...

So those who are celibate are not fit to humans? because that is your argument against gays.so life is all about M R N I G E R D? Then why do we love? Love is not among the characters

@ free radical

In nature, there is no bad or good, no reward or punishment, just consequences.It is humans that define good or bad not any god anywhere.

God also created homosexual animals so why the noise about "high moral culture"? Is Nigeria more moral than Britain? Hypocrisy @ its peak.why not kill all albinos 'cause they are different? There's even a hint of evidence to say Jesus was gay. Jesus said love all but Christians just keep judging.Spread love and not hate.

Deha: I believe u dont know God..Firstly,you need to Know God personally...When u do,u will realise that u have been Wrong all along........Sigmund Freud will tell u better

Sigmund Freud was an atheist

Charles noble: PETER, JESUS FED 5,000 NOT 3000, YOU BEAR PETER BUT YOU DON'T SPEAK LIKE PETER.WHY?

Jesus fed 5000 and 3000 people @ 2 different events.hehe...lemme say I lost my faith.

Leveticus says kill your kids, don't wear clothes of mixed fabric, don't shave your beard etc and some people are hear saying sh*t about tattoos? All these cherry picking Christians. I wanna see someone murder his child 'cos its in the bible.

Typical mentality of "the man in uniform is always right".That is why even the police batter people for nothing.This is a democracy and the way soldiers are brutalising civilians for nothing and even screaming "you know how I suffer for this uniform" is so bad.One can't even wear a top that has any hint of Camouflage to avoid frog jumping. This country is a jungle. People just want to be soldiers so they can't beat and intimidate while real soldiers like US soldiers go to Afghanistan.

Thanks macof, I'm waiting to see how Christians can wriggle out of this one.

T.B Joshua is a philanthropist in Nigeria.He has allegedly performed miracles and fed the poor and needy.If T.B Joshua was to be hanged would the poor and needy just change and shout "hang him! Hang him!" ? Now, back to Jesus, it is the same situation and we can only say either the crowd weren't impressed by jesus' miracles (or they never happened) or God used the. People to kill him..get my drift?

@ radical
So you're saying the same Jesus that fed 3000 people and healed the sick was killed as a result of freewill that is actually gods will? That means there's no freewill

@radical @ chukwuka
Why would god blind them so that they don't recognise their messiah and change?

Conclusion
Whatever may have happened that day, it’s clear that
the crowds were not impressed by the works of Jesus,
at least not enough to spare his life. And it’s difficult
to imagine that the chief priests were so persuasive
that they could talk people out of a miracle worker
and into a murderer. It’s also difficult to believe that
of all those who were healed, that they would all
abandon Jesus in his time of need. As impressed as
we are today with the works of Jesus, those who lived
with him did not seem nearly as impressed.
Hypothetically speaking, if the story of Jesus were
just a legend (based upon an actual person), the size
of the crowds and the miracles performed could’ve
been exaggerated one generation after Jesus, and it
would’ve been difficult to confirm or deny these
details. However, you couldn’t lie and say Jesus did
so many great miracles that they made him king of
the Jews (people would know that was bullshit). The
gospel writers had little choice but to excuse his
execution by insisting these witnesses were ignorant
and blind. But… what if they weren’t?
Source:500questions./#

The Chief Priests: The reason for the crowd’s
change of heart?
According to the Bible, the reason the crowd turned
on Jesus was because the chief priests and the elders
“persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas” (Matt.
27:20, Mark 15:11).
The gospels paint the chief priests as antagonists,
and I don’t doubt that some of them were corrupt, but
they were still probably the best qualified to identify a
potential messiah, and they seemed to be doing as
God had instructed.
The scriptures clearly warned them that God would
be testing the Jews by sending false prophets, who
would try to impress them by accurately predicting
the future and performing signs and wonders. God
also instructed them to kill such prophets if they ever
tried to lead people away from the one true God.
If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams,
appears among you and announces to you a sign
or wonder, and if the sign or wonder spoken of
takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow
other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us
worship them,” you must not listen to the words of
that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is
testing you to find out whether you love him with
all your heart and with all your soul… That
prophet or dreamer must be put to death for
inciting rebellion against the Lord your God…
~ Deuteronomy 13:1-5
So along comes Jesus, making prophecies,
performing signs and wonders, inciting rebellion,
and leading Jews to follow an unfamiliar God (one
with a child, who came from a human woman), and
so the chief priests did exactly as God instructed. If
God didn’t want them to kill Jesus, perhaps he
should’ve been more specific about what they should
expect, so there would be no misunderstanding about
who to kill and who to worship.
On top of all this, Jesus wasn’t exactly matching up
with a number of messianic prophecies (as the Jews
understood them). So there are many possibilities
here:
1. The chief priests were correct about Jesus
being a false prophet.
2. The scriptures were man-made, and therefore
useless for predicting anything about anyone.
3. Barabbas was a more impressive character
than Jesus.
4. The crowds didn’t believe the stories about
Lazarus and the other miracles.
5. God blinded all Jews (because of past sins),
and prevented them from recognizing their
messiah.
6. God permitted Satan to deceive all the people so
they would kill Jesus.
Most Christians would probably opt for one of the
last two explanations, but if either are true, then the
Jews (and mankind in general) are not responsible
for killing Jesus — God made it impossible for us to
recognize him. And strangely, even after the
resurrection, we have to presume God continued to
prevent the overwhelming majority of Jews from ever
recognizing him. (Poor Jews.)
Why did the crowd listen to the chief priests?
If Jesus had healed me or my family, or raised me
from the dead, I wouldn’t give a flying fig what the
chief priests said. And according to the gospel of
John, the crowds didn’t care. They recognized that
these miracles meant that Jesus was something
special, even if he didn’t exactly fit their messianic
expectations:
At that point some of the people of Jerusalem
began to ask, “Isn’t this the man they are trying to
kill? Here he is, speaking publicly, and they are
not saying a word to him. Have the authorities
really concluded that he is the Messiah? But we
know where this man is from; when the Messiah
comes, no one will know where he is from.”
Then Jesus, still teaching in the temple courts,
cried out, “Yes, you know me, and you know
where I am from. I am not here on my own
authority, but he who sent me is true. You do not
know him, but I know him because I am from him
and he sent me.”
At this they tried to seize him, but no one laid a
hand on him, because his hour had not yet come.
Still, many in the crowd believed in him. They
said, “When the Messiah comes, will he perform
more signs than this man?”
~ John 7:25-32
So the crowds were (reportedly) impressed with the
miracles of Jesus, and were willing to overlook a few
inconsistencies. And really… who are you going to
believe? The guy who can literally walk on water… or
the chief priests… who can’t?

Jesus vs. Barabbas
But when it came time for the public to choose
between freeing Jesus “the miracle worker” or
Barabbas “the murderer” — the choice should’ve been
clear, and yet… they chose to free Barabbas.
This ancient public opinion poll tells us that Jesus’s
approval rating was, somehow, even lower than that
of Barabbas’s… who didn’t exactly set the bar very
high. The crowd didn’t even free Barabbas because
they liked him, but because they disliked Jesus. Luke
23:23 says, “With loud shouts they insistently
demanded that he be crucified.” That really doesn’t
sound like the actions of a crowd who were deeply
impressed by the miracles of Jesus.
Where were all of Jesus’s supporters? Where were
the crowds that traveled long distances to see him?
Or even just the local fans? Where were the apostles?
Where was the blind man saying, “Free Jesus, for I
was blind and now I see!” Where was the deaf man?
The lame man? Jesus’s mother and brothers? The
centurion? The bleeding woman? Mary Magdalene?
Where was the father whose son was possessed?
Where was Lazarus saying, “Free Jesus! For I was
dead and Jesus made me alive again!” Where was
Zacchaeus saying, “Free Jesus! For I was a short,
nerdy, tree-climber and Jesus hung out with me
anyway!” Where were the large crowds that spread
cloaks and palm branches and sang to him as he
entered Jerusalem? Where were the droves that were
healed? Or the thousands that were fed? Where were
the legions of sick crying out, “Free Jesus so that we
too may be healed!”? Where were all these people? If
crowds gathered wherever Jesus went, where were
they now?
Unfortunately, there’s no way for us to go back in
time and observe the miracles of Jesus, but thanks to
this informal public opinion poll, we know that the
people who were there at that time didn’t seem to
think much of him. In fact, if they could see all of the
cathedrals and mega-churches dedicated to Jesus
today, they might say, “What…? You mean that guy?
That guy we passed over for Barabbas?! Well, I was
there, and I saw what he did, I saw it with my own
two eyes! So you can wipe off that grin, I know where
he’s been, it’s all been a pack of lies!” (Sorry — Phil
Collins humor.)

According to the gospels, Jesus was a charismatic
figure who was constantly attracting crowds
wherever he went. People wanted to be healed, see a
miracle, or hear what Jesus had to say. Often there
were so many people it was difficult to get close to
Jesus, and people literally climbed trees (Luke
19:3-4) and cut holes in rooftops (Mark 2:4, Luke
5:19) just to get closer.

These crowds also traveled long distances and to
remote locations just to see him.
Jesus withdrew with his disciples to the lake, and
a large crowd from Galilee followed. When they
heard about all he was doing, many people came
to him from Judea, Jerusalem, Idumea, and the
regions across the Jordan and around Tyre and
Sidon.
Mark 3:7-9
These lucky crowds got to witness some of the most
amazing miracles in history. They saw Jesus feed
5,000, heal the lame and the blind, cast out demons,
raise people from the dead, and perform so many
other miracles that “even the whole world would not
have room for the books that would be written” (John
21:25). The Bible gives us a snapshot of what these
crowds saw:
A large crowd followed him, and he healed all
who were ill. Matthew 12:15
When Jesus landed and saw a large crowd, he
had compassion on them and healed their sick.
Matthew 14:14 (to be continued..)

Nonso23: candie?

Why do you think the Jewish god is self sufficient and allah, alusi, alekwu, zeus etc aren't? There is no universal God anywhere.Each tribe has their own gods.


"The easy confidence with which I know another
man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect
that my own is also. I would not interfere with
any one's religion, either to strengthen it or to
weaken it. I am not able to believe one's
religion can affect his hereafter one way or the
other, no matter what that religion may be.
But it may easily be a great comfort to him in
this life--hence it is a valuable possession to
him." - Mark Twain

Donjazzy12: They wont!

Its not a matter of they won't.if they do would you burn them alive or stone them to death?

Ifedi kaycee: smh @ur level of ignorance!

Ignorance? Show me how my post is ignorant.

50calibre: Nah! I'm not blaming the white man, I'm blaming you for accepting everything the white man tells you. Homosexuality is alien to African values & tradition, that's a fact!! The most gay-friendly nations in the world, are white nations, the gay cause & propaganda is being championed & propagated by the white nations & their media, we can see this in how vigourously the US & UK, pursue those countries who've refused to accept homosexuality.

So when I see an African being pro-gay, I instantly know he/she has fallen victim to the white man's media, the same media that was once used to denigrate & vilify his/her race.

Nigga homosexuality has been in Africa since.This is why whites remain superior.They find facts and use them while the black man holds unto a Jewish or Arab book.

50calibre: You are talking nonsense, & you know it. My question to you is, when will you start using your brain to think & make decisions for yourself, instead of swallowing every western propaganda/ideology thrown your way, & then regurgitating it whenever and wherever you feel like?

Countless times, I've seen mental slaves like you, use the killing of twins as a comparison, that's how I identify the brainwashed. The white man tells you, your people killed twins as a tradition, therefore all your traditional beliefs & principles are wrong, accept homosexuality because you are gullible, Yet they refuse to accept polygamy.

Don't worry, someday, the white man would come out with a new theory that all African are still un-evolved, I'm sure you'd accept it.

Oya no shout. When the white men were learning science and opening their minds, your ancestors were killing cocks for gods.we must continue to accept science from the west because we turn our schools to religious houses instead of teaching science.

Peterphd Futminna

texanomaly: The band, or the act of?

The act of public disturbance

ajayikayod: Why is dt paining u?

Ever heard of public disturbance?

Calling faith the death of intelligence is an insult? Okay R_R, I'm sorry.kai!

All these ifa apologists are spewing rubbish.so ifa is now universal? This is the same claim that Christianity is universal.it is the same enforcement of a tribal god upon different people.There is no universal god and nobody is swearing by any ile before taking a public office.Ifa should give us the cure for aids if it is scientific and universal.

Faith is the death of intelligence and rapture_ready is living proof of the statement.So children in places like Zimbabwe,sudan,somalia etc that had MTC transmission of HIV aren't with god? Smh

ajayikayod: I m not in a position to prove God to u, i ve seen ppl b4 who cant actually see tins clearly even wen placed closely to thr sight.
U r not dismissing my claim, u r only makin a claim for urself, actually, a religion 4urself.

You can't prove god and you guys go about blaring shi.t on loudspeakers? Talk about hocus-pocus.

ajayikayod: U r lying. Scientist and Life itself dont claim thr is no God, Atheist did.

Tell me how life has said there is a god. Unless you produce evidence for God, atheists have the right to dismiss your claims.

^^
Please get off the internet. You are to stupid to understand science and life.why don't you believe the yoruba creation story but want us to believe the Jewish one brought to us by slave traders?