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dinachi: I have not seen you fight racism with the kind of energy you are using to fight for homosexual rights! I have not seen you fight corruption with the same energy....I have not seen you fight other vices with the same vigor...My friend you ARE homosexual!

I will only take such challenge with a person whose brain is not addled by the shit digging of the homosexual lifestyle. You don't qualify!

You think you can come here and spew thrash about your despicable lifestyle and attract sympathy? I repeat you are DENSE!

Nigga, there's no racism to fight in Nigeria as We are all black here .Stay on topic.This thread isn't for questioning our sexualitiy. I am straight and I don't need you to validate that.You can't take the challenge because you fear it.I haven't seen you attack corruption too. Sore loser

Image123: No, you were not a christian. you never followed Christ, and you were never born again. You never had your sins forgiven and you never repented. A non-christian is regarded as an unbeliever. An unbeliever in God and in His Word. That is my definition, so in my definition, you are an unbeliever. i did not discover Jesus because he was the most popular god idea around, in that case, everyone would be christians because Jesus is the most popular god idea around. i guess atheism is the most popular idea around you too, or it does not apply? i have christian friends in india, come to think of it. Knowing Jesus is not necessarily about popular ideas around you. Nobody can make the same claims that Jesus Christ and christianity makes. Like i showed you, true muslins cannot claim to be saved, they simply do not know. No religion or god has come to earth as a man, died and resurrected. None offers forgiveness of sin like Jesus. All their followers are forever trying to appease them, and are never free from sin and its guilt. God has proven Himself already, we are still waiting for proof of evolution.

You are not in a position to say if I'm a Christian or not just as you cannot tell a catholic he's not a Christian.You discovered Jesus because he's the one that they drummed into your ears everyday.you have Indian Christians? Well, we have asari as a Muslim in Christian ijaw land.Do NOT say Muslims are not saved because they worry for you as being in need of a saviour.Jesus isn't the only person in history to have claimed divine origin so late him prove this by appearing at the UCL final.When you say God,you do not speak of only the Christian one but of all of them even those older than the bible god.The fact that you don't wanna accept evolution doesn't mean you should claim one out of a million gods created us without evidence.Your fellow Christians are busy supporting evolution on the Noah's ark thread saying Noah took only one kind of bear and polar and grizzly bears evolved from one in just a few thousand years.

BlueMurder: If the thread title had been "75 year old Damaturu billionaire weds 28 year old...", this thread would have reached its 6th or 7th page now with near-insane cries of "child abuse", "women abuse", "barbarism", "backward people", "terrible religion", etc, gushing out of the mouths of posters who are at present, more or less, overawed.

nobody would have screamed. A 28 year old woman is an adult and knows what's good for her.peeps only complain about 13 year old girls and 50-60 something year olds.when the IGP married a 30 something year old lady did anybody scream "backward religion"?

@sagamite

I have only asked a question that you should answer. Would you want (since you don't like the word "allow" ) a lady you are in wedlock with to have other husbands? answer the question and stop all these rants.I hope you know one man to many wives is polygyny ( a form of polygamy, the other being polyandry) so tell me why you don't want many husbands to one wife (including yours) if you support polygamy.

tommynico: i thought u were going to end ur stupid speech well but i was dissapointed. Our moral values here in nigeria nd some parts of africa here is held in high esteem, above any fucking law, Americans or british lacks these values nd only a few of them r against most of their abominations nd if we nigerians do go their, it has nothing to do wt their norms but to milk them of their honey.

What moral values in Nigeria? Ritual killings, looting, cradle robbery, jungle justice etc are the values being held high? are you saying these values are more important than fundamental human rights?how do you know Americans are immoral? I hope you know their citizens and leaders are much more respectful of their laws than here where everyone is a hypocrite.Guy think before branding whole nations as immoral.

dinachi: The reasons have been given severally but your homosexual brain will never rise to the occasion to understand it. YOU ARE DENSE!

Be civil and don't insult me.If you are so sure your "reasons" stand up to scrutiny why not take my challenge? I am not homosexual.I can even fucck your mother to prove it.Going by this logic,if a freeman fights to end slavery he is a slave huh? Ignorant piece of shiiit. Take the challenge let me post the link.

dinachi: The way some of these homosexual bigots argue as if allowing homosexual marriage in Nigeria is ALL that we need to be great...As if all our problems started because we rejected homosexual idiocy....come and see bigotry!

WE DON'T WANT YOUR SICK LIFESTYLE HERE! IT IS SIMPLE ENOUGH.

Guy don't appeal to emotions here. If you feel you can give reasons for gay marriage to be banned come to the religion section and argue.Will share the link if you are ready.

Adamskuty: Well,since they say "majority carries the vote" and 95percent of nigeria condemns this same sex marriage,then it's ok by me ..

Samething with phedophiles..

So y'all f@ggots in here should stfu,the majority has spoken.

Even in an election,the candidate with majority votes will be declared winner,same with everything so why must f@ggots own be different,huh?

Such a failed notion of "majority carries the vote".when Muslims decide to change Nigeria to an Islamic state I hope you will not complain about having your rights taken away since they are the majority by population.I think you need a government textbook from ss 1 so you can read and understand what democracy is.

Sagamite: You are a person!

So how come America bans polygamy?

Does someone wishing to marry multiple people harm anybody or is stealing from them, poof?

How come Obama is not fighting for the "human rights" of the Muslims? It is all about illogical popularism?

You have been shouting about how the west has banned polygamy and I want to ask you...would you allow your wife to be married to 4 husbands including yourself? If no, why should many women be married to one husband.Isn't this a double standard if you are rooting for polygamy or are women just mere sex objects?

Zona.com:
Then you dont know Emeka offor at all.
I think last 2 years(2012) or so, his foundation donated books worth 2 billion naira to schools across the country.

True. They don't know him. My secondary school benefitted from his book donations.

simdam500: Couldn't reply early because i was ban 4 24 hours...

The mod just dey set me free

No probs. I get where you're coming from now.

Pimples: Human designs are prone to error
However, remember that the ark was designed by God.
And also before then, rain had never fell before so we'll assume that ships were quite rare or betterstill nonexistent.
He directly handed down the specifications to Noah.
He is the greatest architect as is evidenced by the complexity found in every aspect of the design of the universe. Which funnily, science tries to copy.
Infact there is a relatively new field of science known as Biomimetics that exclusively copies design from God and Nature.


Now it was very possible for 8 people to build the ark.....they really did not have time constraints.....I think construction of the ark took more than 40 years (let me confirm from my Bible)
So this makes it really feasible for 8 people to construct something that large.

Guy abeg, no god handed anything to Noah.Tribes older than the Israelites have flood myths of supposedly divine origin so Noah's flood myth isn't the oldest flood myth and it is at best, plagiarised.8 stone-age men cannot build an ark of that proportion.The wheel wasn't invented, no saws, screwdrivers etc...what did they use to cut the trees?
Science copies nature because nature endows her species with qualities that enable them survive.Which God? I have always told you that Israelites don't have the oldest concept of god.why is your own real and not the older ones?

OLAADEGBU: "Make yourself an ark of gopher wood; make rooms in the ark, and cover it inside and outside with pitch. And this is how you shall make it: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, its width fifty cubits and its height thirty cubits. You shall make a window for the ark, and you shall finish it to a cubit from above; and set the door of the ark in its side. You shall make it with lower, second and third decks" (Genesis 6:14-16).

Noah's Ark was a massive three-level ship, the size of one and a half football fields and for your other questions you will have to open other threads for it to be treated.

How was the ark ventilated? Only one window on the uppermost deck wouldn't be enough and there were no windows on lower decks.

Pimples: Even china acknowledges the flood of Noah story
The Lolo group or tribe of china have a well known folklore that has very close similarities to the bible's account
Some of the similarities are
Destruction by Water
Divine Cause
Humans Spared
Animals Spared
Preserved in a Vessel

www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

Also It is of interest that the Chinese character for “ship”
is derived from the idea of “eight persons in a
vessel.” This bears a striking resemblance to the
Bible account about Noah and his family, eight
persons, who survived the Flood in an ark


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Check out this link to see detailed analysis showing that the bible's account about what happened is not impossible
http://creation.mobi/how-did-all-the-animals-fit-on-noahs-ark

Will post a rebuttal tomorrow.Goodnight

Image123: So never say that you were a christian, those are the thins it takes to be a christian. You've never stepped out of your comfort zone as an unbeliever. i was once a sinner, but i found all that i needed in Jesus. Again, leave koran alone and let's face ourselves na. No other god saves like Jesus, this is common knowledge, this is the word on the street.[b] i have tried other things, only Jesus can save. [/b]When will you come out of your comfort zone and really try Him?

nope.i was a christian by virtue of being born into a christian family.stepping out of my comfort zone as an unbeliever?we are all unbelievers of something.you just believe one thing more than i do.You discovered jesus because he was the most popular god idea around where you were raised.Someone in india or afghanistan would have discovered other gods apart from jesus.I am not holding the koran as oppostition to your claims.I am just showing you how people can make the same claims with their holy books.Only jesus can save?yeah, only he can save because only him and his book tells us to tell children that they are bad from birth so that he dosent roast them forever.Its like me creating a computer virus,forcing you to pay for it then, getting rid of it to look like a hero.I dont think i need to try Jesus.If there is a universal god, let him come down and give evidence maybe during the world cup, ucl final or olympics.let him tell the muslims to stop slaughtering us.let him tell christians to stop discriminating because they have lost power to kill us.Let god prove himself!

All these people yapping that atheists kill people are just wrong.Atheism never tells you what to do or not do.It has no scripts,manuals or holy books.Atheism cannot tell you to kill.If any atheist is barbaric, he acts of his own conviction.Notwithstanding, when did communism= atheism?

@olaadegbu

why are you evading my questions? you are the op of this thread and i wold like to know what you think about my questions.

Image123: i'm not assuming things, i know what i was and what i am. i am what i am through the grace of God. i'm okay with the answers i've got. i've also seen people from various religions who found answers in God that are not in their religions. You don't have to taste poison to conirm its danger, do you? Have you ever realised that you were a sinner and then repented of your sins and served God?

you see,you aren't willing to step out of your comfort zone and try other things.The poison analogy fails here.If you see other religions as poison,what makes you think they dont want to hold on to the hope and security their own provides and to see yors as poison too?I have never thought of myself as a sinner because i rejected the doctrine of original sin even from a young age.let me ask you...don't you think you are a sinner according to the koran for not submitting to allah?

Image123: i was once a sinner pete, i know the difference. Jesus gives the answer to all the fundamental questions of life. Have you tried Him?

Even followers of other religions can say they've been sinners.Vishnu, Muhammed, alusi to can be said to have the answers of life.Have you ever taken a day to assume nothing and just ask yourself why you see folly in the over a million religions in the world but not in yours? Have you stepped out of your comfort zone ( your household religion) to try at least 3 other religions? Guy consider the odds of a single religion being true and tell me why I should believe any religion.

Yes, I have tried Jesus.I was born into a Christian family.

Pimples: That is very possible.
People got married very early back then.
Since man was still close to perfection, I'll assume infertility was non-existent. Folks back then were very virile.
Hence 25 years after the flood would have us see each of noah's 3 sons having an average of 10 sons each (it's possible. Back then there was no family planning)
If they each got married at the start of puberty then it's quite possible to have a good number to start the tower of Babel

Like I said eairlier, Using scientific knowledge as a basis for judging events in the past would be faulty.
Even science is quite limited in what it currently knows.
As for the argument about species, even science does not have a complete record of all the species on earth. Infact, new species are still being discovered till today.
Some of this new species might actually be variants of previously known species that changed due to certain yet to be known factors
Just like a mixed dog breed might be confused to be a new specie if the breeding process was not documented.

The best we can do is speculate.
There is nothing immpossible for the creator of life God.
We just need more faith in him.

I don't agree with your "close to perfection" stance. If man fell, he became imperfect immediately.There's no measurement of the level of perfection.

The pyramids in Egypt were built by about 20000 - 30000 people.Even if 6 people gave birth 10 kids every 25 years, we would not have up to 2000 PEople on earth.How then was the tower of babel built?

I haven't talked about species.I only asked how Noah went to Australia to get koalas and kangaroos,how he got mosquitoes, who was the host of all the micro-organisms we have today.Tell us how this was done.

You creationists don't wanna mention evolution so I'll take your "yet to be known factor" as evolution.You say we can only speculate and you are telling us to accept this as absolute truth?

I still await answers on how the various races of humans on earth came from the ark and how the Egyptian pyramids were built if the flood ever happened.We do NOT need faith, we need hard evidence just the way you'd demand evidence if it was a Muslim telling us Mohamed went to heaven on the back of a winged beast.

Bidam: You couldn't have said it better bro...Atheist thrives on lies and deceit. Only gullible and ignorant folks will swallow what they say without making proper and adequate research..Kudos!

Guy, the atheists here have raised questions about re-population, how Noah went to Australia to get koalas,micro-organisms etc so just answer them if you are sure and don't start saying atheists are deceitful

Joshthefirst: I've seen this many times. Its actually how atheists argue. When presented with facts and challenged to reason even scientificallt, they claim the person is brain dead and run away from the argument. Classic. Classic foolishness.

I've shown you fact that china's history only goes back as far as about 3000 years, contrary to the blatant lies you and mazaje were heralding. At least he ran away, unlike you. He knew better.

I'm still waiting for my population answers and how the Egyptians built the pyramids Egyptian history goes as far back as 3100 B.C so tell us the Egyptians built the pyramids if they were wiped out or are you saying noah's descendants built the pyramids?
Just so you know, Chinese history is over 4000 years old (Xia dynasty 2100- 1600 BC).

OLAADEGBU: God bless you.



That's a very good observation. Noah's Ark was slightly larger than 2 football pitches.

Noah's ark dimensions :300 cubits long (137.16 m, 450 ft), 50 wide (22.86 m, 75 ft), and 30 high (13.716 m, 45 ft); (wikipedia)

The length of the pitch for international adult matches is in the range of 100–110 m (110–120 yd) and the width is in the range of 64–75 m (70–80 yd). (wikipedia)

How is noah's ark bigger than 2 football pitches now eh?Stop trying to deny historical evidence just to prove your book.my question on how six people populated the earth in 100 years to be able to build a tower that threathened God still stands Olaadegbu and pimples please try to answer.

simdam500: do u actually find it difficult to differentiate between shy & stare

Do shy people stare into people's eyes regularly? Isn't it confident people that stare into people's eyes? If you have a problem, tell us what makes shy people shy.

I don't understand all you said about numbers.

1.The tower of babel was built about 100 years after the said flood.Are you saying only six people ( Noah and his wife didn't have any more kids) reproduced enough to build a tower that threatened the bible god in 100 years?

2.If the global flood is true, who built the pyramids
because they were built at that period.

3.Tell us how six people gave birth to all the races in the world today.

please don't try to discredit radio-carbon dating.If you've got a better method, get into the lab and show us and maybe win a Nobel.by the way, how do I share a link here?

Image123: Re-read, i already gave three reasons. Do you go about testing all the counterfeits when you find the original?

How do you know it is original? Others also claim they have the original god.why don't you religionists hold a mount Carmel-esque contest afterall your gods are true and shouldn't be afraid of competition.You do not know if something is original till you've seen fakes...have you ever been a pagan or Muslim for a day?

@Josh @olaadegbu

I'm yet to see an attempt to refute mazaje's view of the improbability of a global flood about 6000 years ago due to the Uninterrupted history of the Chinese,aztecs and other tribes.Did the flood miss the people in those lands or the waters couldn't destroy their records. Another thing plaguing my mind is how one family (a middle eastern one) was able to re-populate the world to about 7 billion in such a short time and how they managed to give birth to other races such as negroes.

@ seemylife

All those your posts na long story.You do realise that if C.S Lewis was in Iran He would have discovered that allah was the true God and creator I.e he would have discovered the most popular god in his locality or the god of his spouse.An Indian atheist would likely discover vishnu or one of their gods.This Fact utterly destroys the notion that only the bible god is true.Till you religious people tell us why you conveniently choose the god of the family you're born into or discover the most popular god around you and reject all other gods not local to you as evil,satanic and whatever, we atheists still maintain that there is no universal god and all gods are tribal and thus creation of tribesmen.

I have only one problem with this list. How does one who is shy stare into someone's eyes?abi is there a new type of shyness in town?

@ image

You still haven't answered the question of why your god is real and the other millions aren't.I saw the part where moses' snake ate the Egyptian guy's own.Have you tested the entire religions in the world to know if they are true? For the fact that an Egyptian can replicate the snake trick,it means your god isn't the real and thus, we atheists can only accept that your god is real as Everyman accepts that his buddy's wife is the best woman for him. If you don't get this one, then....