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RayRay06677:
Where was Abraham?
Killed and took away properties, slept with maid, lied. That's few recorded for him. And I trust you to know that's not Christlike acts

David and Moses did worst . Faith is not by act but by heart

You are yet to know who Abraham is sir. You're yet to know the significance of Abrahamic covenant.

The testimony of of For Abraham was of faith and righteousness.

James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

Galatians 3:9
So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Abraham is the father of faith. The new testament of Christ was an offshoot of Abrahamic covenant. And also the fulfillment of Abrahamic covenant . If you try to demonize Abraham you will demonize Christ also who is the seed of Abraham

wirinet:
Meaning tithes is not that important.

That's tithe eaters assumption

That's why he or his disciples never preached or gave a parable on tithes.

He did

Meanwhile tithes is the most important doctrine of modern day Christianity. Salvation according to tithes.

Not true. It's tithe eaters assumption or accusations. Pastor's teach on prayers, fasting, forgiveness, evangelism, faith nobody speaks. But when they teach on tithes anf offering tithe eaters protest. That means conscience Is disturbing them.

There must be balance. The whole counsel of God must be taught

RayRay06677:
On the second part, I am happy you are joining me to say same thing "tithe is a lesser thing" tithe is insignificant.Tithe is inconsequential. Tithe is lesser in the scheme of things. Jesus, said so.

Lesser things is different from "Insignificant "
Will you call Offering Insignificant? Buy yet its part of the lesser things

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Rather let your gods preach the weightier things first and tithe might follow as it's inconsequential in today's Christianity.

Rather let your tithe eating gods preach the whole counsel of God. God never stopped tithes amd Offering. They are principles just as fasting and praying

RayRay06677:
That was a joke but is that Christianity, definitely NO, if you are a Christian then follow Christ. Under no guise should you kill as a Christian rather "turn the other cheek" the battle is of the Lord.

I don't get you.

So who are you following, Christ or Abraham?

You dont know Abraham. If you know Abraham you will know that he is the father of faith. The new testament was based on Abrahamic covenant. He is the father of us all.

Galatians 3:7
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

Even christ himself is prophetic seed of Abraham

PastorMIsBack:
I don't think she's on Nairaland. Femi Sahara should contact her via her YouTube channel or on Facebook. And since he says he's never met the G.O, maybe he should listen.

Good counsel . Flogging each other before sinners is unwise

Barrister026:
Pastors wife wants the junior pastor to be reporting to her if her husband is not around or any issue at all during church service.

She try as much to be in charge when her husband is off in another Church to minister.

This nearly caused a problem in the church today, while I was going home surprisingly a friend of mine supported the pastor's wife.. that she's the first lady of the church of God if her husband is not around.
she can represent him anytime to coordinate like most churches

What's your take on this issue is it right?

It's what the Pastor says.. church is not democracy. there is no Pastor wife position. There is no first Lady position. If a Pastor wife deputise its not because she's Pastor wife . It should be because she has the capability and trust of the Pastor. And if the assistant Pastor deputies it' should be based on same principle. All. they need do is to ask the Pastor who should be in charge. Period.

How much will you pay?

PastorMIsBack:
However, I could never understand why they started the prayers with
Jehovah - (God the father)
Jesus Christ - (God the son)
Holy St Michael - (God the angel?) as I know for sure the Holy Spirit is NOT St Michael

It was based on interpretation of Daniel 12.

Daniel 12:1
​ And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:

So it's erroneously believed that Michael fights for us all. Not knowing that he's the angel appointed over the nation of Israel

Anyone care to explain?
We also went into the bush at midnight a lot to conduct prayers. After the prayers, we were not allowed to look back until we left the bush.

A lot of prayers were also conducted at the riverside. We would use the candle to rub our heads and throw it into the river/bush.

What about that 'green water'? Thankfully I was too young to drink it. My dad did and was sick for days.

Then beating people with 'ida' and 'amure' in the name of casting out demons when they should have simply used the name of Jesus.

They also light incense and cover you with a cloth which people would step on so you are inhaling the smoke and struggling underneath. They did it to me once. I coughed for days. This is supposed to be a deliverance. What happened to the name of Jesus?

These are not what I heard or was told but what I experienced. I left when I was a teenager.

Having said all of this, which Church hasn't got it's own?

I was also a member of MFM. That's a story for another day

The white garment churches were the pentecostal churches in the 1940s. Africa was riddled with withcraft and black magic. The orthodox churches lacked power . Revival was going in the world . Like God's visitation on earth. God couldn't use the dogmatic churches who were so controlled by their system . So he began to use illustrate African.
Annoited them with power and miracle. Starting with cherubim leader . Celestia came out of cherubim ,Redeemed churxh came out of cherubim. They were all white Garmeny churches including Redeemed .
They had little knowledge of the bible. Their practices were mostly old testament and prophetic ministry. There were lots of wrong interpretation of scripture. For example they don't wear shoes because God told Moses to pull off his shoes on Holy ground. Some of the prophetic things in the bible were very close to some African practices so it was easy for the people to blend in. Witches Confessed,,herbalist burned their charms . The only problem was that they didn't improve on the word of God. They majored on Old Testament and some teachings of christ but not on the epistles. Until recent times . Redeemed changed into pentecostal because educated people like Pastor Adboye came in and later took leadership.

RayRay06677:
That was a bribe, he killed and stole and gave part to the king to silence him. If I invade your village today and give part to your local government chairman for coverage I hope you will clap for me.

You could say Jacob gave bribe to God too. And Childrrn of Israel gave bribe to God. See how far you tithe eaters will go to nullify the word of God. You forgot melchizedek was a priest of God. And God recorded he blessed Abraham for the tithes he gave .

Genesis 14:20
And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

That's takes us to the question: are you a Christian? Follow Christ and have peace.

JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
Matthew 23:23 TLB
. . .. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

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If you give offering you should give tithe also

jpmoriarti:
Thief!

How much tithe did Elon Musk or Bill Gate pay? Why didn't the devil collect from them? Why are they the richest men in the world even without paying tithe

God doesn't demand tithe from sinners

LordIsaac:
The doctrine of Payment of tithe is more heard now than salvation messages.

That's a lie . Salvation Alter call is made every service

Igo9:
when did Jesus tell christians to pay tithe?

JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
Matthew 23:23 TLB
. .. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

chiefobdk2:
if you are not a levi and you collect tithe..you are a criminal

Abram Paid tithe to Melchizedek . So Was melchizedek Levi? .

YinkaOlusesi16:
your tithes to GOD is different from the money u give to the poor, obedient is better than sacrifice.

Absolutely correct

fullofgrace:
Suffering is the path of Christian living.
The greater your suffering, The greater God's love becomes in ur life.

The suffering for christ is the persecution we go through. Not suffering of things christ has died for .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iagSWA9et5Y

LordReed:
You haven't given me cause to, you post a lot of misinformation and I don't like misinformation.

Did UK govt not do away with restrictions, face mask etc? Even if theres some exaggeration . Did I write the article ? Did I not quote source ?

So of all my many many post all eternity misinformation

LordReed:
You'd make a fine chaplain. Probably a hospital, you do have a way of making people at ease.

I've been with you since you didn't make such compliments

iramure:
Africa my Africa

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fullofgrace:
Afterlife Vision of St. Faustina


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecC3_dbBuzU

It doesn't make bible sense. How can someone suffer tuberculosis for christ when Jesus had died and bore our infirmities

Kobojunkie:
Again....What you posted makes no sense since the man's claim is (water)baptisms are no longer necessary.

What is written in scripture is that they are required. You however insinuate that water baptisms were done by those who had the Holy Spirit, a lie since many of the same apostles, where recorded to have baptized countless even before the Holy Spirit showed up.

The scriptures I quoted were post holy spirit advent. I'm I missing something

AntiChristian:
Did Jesus create this Church?

What better ways? What if a Celestial Church member or Cherubim & Seraphim still does the above?

Under the miistrry of a prophet such a thing may happen. And that's if there is no legal implications

Kobojunkie:
What you posted makes no sense since the man's claim is baptisms are no longer necessary.

What is written in scripture is that they are required. You however insinuate that baptisms were done by those who had the Holy Spirit, a lie since many of the same apostles, where recorded to have baptized countless even before the Holy Spirit showed up.

I thought you have repented. Of posting ipokupo.

The preacher said there is no need for water Baptism since Jesus was to bsptise us with the holyspirit. I pointed out to him that even those have received the holyspirit still baptized others with water

Kobojunkie:
Considering what the man said about baptisms in the post you responded to, what you have above is meaningless, this because Jesus Christ's disciples Baptized countless even before the Holy Spirit showed up on them much later. Were those baptized by them then lost or something?

Make una try to dey remove una delusions from what is written abeg.

I don't get you . Are you for baptism or against

AntiChristian:
From Numbers 5: 11- 31
I’ll just say in brief, it says that… ‘The priest should take holy water in a vessel, take dust from the floor, and put it into the vessel - And that is the bitter water ‘And after cursing it, give it to the woman And if the woman has committed adultery, after she drinks it, the curse will enter her body, the stomach will swell, the thigh will rot, and she shall be cursed by the people. If the woman has not committed adultery, she will remain clean and she will bear the seed.

Why can't Christian countries try this method on those cases?

Advocatejare, Rightchannel, Truthisunique3, GreatAxeMan, Lee29, ANTIlSLAM, ifiokjohn, Agbegbaorogboye, BePrepared, jesusjnr2020, Ikechukwumdy, HedwigesMaduro kindly benefit us with your holy spirit charged knowledge on this method.

There is no Christian country. We only have Christian church ot the body christ .

Such practice is spiritual and not science . In our days prophets function as priest of those days if such need required. But there are better ways .

Kobojunkie:
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John the Baptist's purpose of baptism is to announce Jesus. John himself said i indeed Baptize you with water but the mightier than I will Baptise you with the Holy Ghost. " Dr Abel said.

He went further to explain the basic significance of water and holy ghost in baptism. He said Jesus Christ has come to replace water with holy ghost.

" Today who is baptizing you?. Is it John or Jesus? If it is Jesus, He doesn't use water, Jesus use Holy Ghost. And if it is John, he uses water. Water is symbolic of the spirit.

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The early church had the hilyghost they still did water Baptism

Philip Baptized The Ethiopea Eunich.

Acts 8:36
And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?.

Paul Baptized some people too

1 Corinthians 1:16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.

tibro:
Look at the trending demonic entities higher than Satan.
Leviathan
Asmodeus
Beazbub
Satan
LUCIFER[b][/b]

Let the bible be your guide. Satan the Devil is the head of the demons and the kingdom of darkness

jmoore:
It was just a coincidence. Jesus is not wicked.

ASK HEROD

Acts 12:21-23
And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man. And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

LordReed:
Did you lie or not?

I lie not

The Rev. Father meant welll. Maybe he did it change to rashly . Instead of banning igbo songs. He could have just balance things up.by introducing other cultural songs . The churxh authority too acted too rashly . They could have just give him the counsel I gave above.

Pastoring is a call . It's a place of Denials and sacrifice . Labour's and Intercession For the people amd for the land . It's only God who can reward a Pastor. Those who attack the office of a Pastor Don't know who a Pastor is.



2 Corinthians 6:4-10
But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses, In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings; By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned, By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left, By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true; As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed; As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

LordReed:
Presented and backed up. Waiting for you to do same.

You no go apologize?