hupernikao:
I am not talking to you, I am talking to people like me, who believe in what bible says not one who cherry pick what suit him.

So, where then in the Bible God or Jesus Christ, the Christ in Christianity send you go give people this "defense" you keep mouthing off about?

Kobojunkie:
So, where then in the Bible God or Jesus Christ, the Christ in Christianity send you go give people this "defense" you keep mouthing off about?

I am not sure you read the Bible so having this discussion with you may not be productive. If you read Bible we can talk, but as it stands, I am sure you don't read the Bible. Looking at a text or gazing at words isn't reading, reading is what brings knowing. I am not sure you do that.

hupernikao:


I am not sure you read the Bible so having this discussion with you may not be productive. If you read Bible we can talk, but as it stands, I am sure you don't read the Bible. Looking at a text or gazing at words isn't reading, reading is what bringing knowing. I am not sure you do that.

Again... the question is simple. Where then in the Bible God or Jesus Christ, the Christ in Christianity send you go give people this "defense" you keep mouthing off about?

Kobojunkie:
Again... the question is simple. Where then in the Bible God or Jesus Christ, the Christ in Christianity send you go give people this "defense" you keep mouthing off about?

You will need to understand simple application of English words and their meaning.

For you not to know that all you yourself do here on NL daily is a defense, it brings a lot out about how you understand what you are doing or write actually.

But I know that, trying to point a direction to someone who isn't going anywhere will only be a waste.

hupernikao:
You will need to understand simple application of English words and their meaning.

For you not to know that all you yourself do here on NL daily is a defense, it brings a lot out about how you understand what you are doing or write actually.

But I know that, trying to point a direction to someone who isn't going anywhere will only be a waste.

Again... the question is simple. Where then in the Bible God or Jesus Christ, the Christ in Christianity send you go give people this "defense" you keep mouthing off about?

Water baptism is wonderful, many times when there is no data to download pornographic movies, I just go to where women are doing water baptism in white T-shirts!!!

When the water touches their T-Shirts, you get to see the "WATER MELON PLANTATION" free of charge!!!

Goshen360:


What are u talking about? Righteousness is fulfilled by baptism? You must be joking!!! If Righteousness is by baptism, then Christ died in vain....we don't need Christ then so let's just be dipping ourselves into water and be Righteousness....see how that makes sense to you...

After being saved through christ blood, we are to obey his commandment and that is why we are commanded to be baptised by immersion. Jesus did it, why are you refusing it or counting it likely. Just because one believes in Jesus is not a guarantee thag he is going to heaven. Obedience to christ comandment is the key to heaven. Jf not, jesus wouldn't have said that 'not all that call him Lord, Lord will enter his kingdom, but those that do His will'.

Now, even in Mark 16:16 KJV
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

We can see here that the same baptism is mentioned by christ. The pronlem with some believes is that they don't undertsnd what they are getting into. They don't undersrsnd the purpose of baptism, that's why they take it lightly and see it as nothing. Ignoramus in the things of God will send many to hell fire.

"my people perish for lack of knowledge".

Romans 6:3-4 KJV
"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? [4] Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."

Even when cornelius received christ and was baptised with the Holy spirit, apostle Peter suggested that they baptism by water shouldn't not be neglected and they were baptised.

Acts 10:46-48 KJV
" For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, [47] Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? [48] And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days."

We all take the bible for granted but beware, heaven is for those that obey all God's word in the bible.

Kobojunkie:
Are you saying that because Jesus Christ commanded it, - water baptism- it's necessary then to fulfilling righteousness in submission and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ?

Goshen360:


What are u talking about? Righteousness is fulfilled by baptism? You must be joking!!! If Righteousness is by baptism, then Christ died in vain....we don't need Christ then so let's just be dipping ourselves into water and be Righteousness....see how that makes sense to you...

After being saved through christ blood, we are to obey his commandment and that is why we are commanded to be baptised by immersion. Jesus did it, why are you refusing it or counting it likely. Just because one believes in Jesus is not a guarantee thag he is going to heaven. Obedience to christ comandment is the key to heaven. Jf not, jesus wouldn't have said that 'not all that call him Lord, Lord will enter his kingdom, but those that do His will'.

Now, even in Mark 16:16 KJV
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

We can see here that the same baptism is mentioned by christ. The pronlem with some believes is that they don't undertsnd what they are getting into. They don't undersrsnd the purpose of baptism, that's why they take it lightly and see it as nothing. Ignoramus in the things of God will send many to hell fire.

"my people perish for lack of knowledge".

Romans 6:3-4 KJV
"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? [4] Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."

Even when cornelius received christ and was baptised with the Holy spirit, apostle Peter suggested that they baptism by water shouldn't not be neglected and they were baptised.

Acts 10:46-48 KJV
" For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, [47] Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? [48] And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days."

We all take the bible for granted but beware, heaven is for those that obey all God's word in the bible.

Niflheim:
Water baptism is wonderful, many times when there is no data to download pornographic movies, I just go to where women are doing water baptism in white T-shirts!!!

When the water touches their T-Shirts, you get to see the "WATER MELON PLANTATION" free of charge!!!

Would you be so pleased with yourself and pat someone on the back, if its your Mrs' "WATER MELON PLANTATION", that the person, just like that and free of charge, is ogling at?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

peteregwu:
After being saved through christ blood, we are to obey his commandment and that is why we are commanded to be baptised by immersion. Jesus did it, why are you refusing it or counting it likely. Just because one believes in Jesus is not a guarantee thag he is going to heaven. Obedience to christ comandment is the key to heaven. Jf not, jesus wouldn't have said that 'not all that call him Lord, Lord will enter his kingdom, but those that do His will'.

Now, even in Mark 16:16 KJV
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

We can see here that the same baptism is mentioned by christ. The pronlem with some believes is that they don't undertsnd what they are getting into. They don't undersrsnd the purpose of baptism, that's why they take it lightly and see it as nothing. Ignoramus in the things of God will send many to hell fire.

"my people perish for lack of knowledge".

Romans 6:3-4 KJV
"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? [4] Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."

Alright, so do you yourself understand the purpose of the Baptism or do you assume you understand because you can post those verses from Paul's letters-Romans 6 vs 3 - 4 - which contain nothing of the purpose to begin with. ?

As to God's statement ...." my people perish for lack of knowledge ", the knowledge God's people lacked then and still lack to this day is the knowledge of God's Law to them through Jesus Christ, the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the one who is Law and Gospel in the Kingdom of God, through whom we are meant to obtain all understanding of the Kingdom of God..

peteregwu:


After being saved through christ blood, we are to obey his commandment and that is why we are commanded to be baptised by immersion. Jesus did it, why are you refusing it or counting it likely. Just because one believes in Jesus is not a guarantee thag he is going to heaven. Obedience to christ comandment is the key to heaven. Jf not, jesus wouldn't have said that 'not all that call him Lord, Lord will enter his kingdom, but those that do His will'.

Now, even in Mark 16:16 KJV
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

We can see here that the same baptism is mentioned by christ. The pronlem with some believes is that they don't undertsnd what they are getting into. They don't undersrsnd the purpose of baptism, that's why they take it lightly and see it as nothing. Ignoramus in the things of God will send many to hell fire.

"my people perish for lack of knowledge".

Romans 6:3-4 KJV
"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? [4] Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."

Even when cornelius received christ and was baptised with the Holy spirit, apostle Peter suggested that they baptism by water shouldn't not be neglected and they were baptised.

Acts 10:46-48 KJV
" For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, [47] Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? [48] And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days."

We all take the bible for granted but beware, heaven is for those that obey all God's word in the bible.

The problem is, when you see the word baptism or baptize your mind had been trapped to think it's automatically WATER. Go and study the meaning of the word baptism or baptize and apply to every context and you will see most verses you quoted it does say WATER....it's your mind that's seeing water. Even Romans you quoted doesn't say you're baptized INTO WATER.....read again with open mind

peteregwu:


After being saved through christ blood, we are to obey his commandment and that is why we are commanded to be baptised by immersion. Jesus did it, why are you refusing it or counting it likely. Just because one believes in Jesus is not a guarantee thag he is going to heaven. Obedience to christ comandment is the key to heaven. Jf not, jesus wouldn't have said that 'not all that call him Lord, Lord will enter his kingdom, but those that do His will'.

Now, even in Mark 16:16 KJV
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

We can see here that the same baptism is mentioned by christ. The pronlem with some believes is that they don't undertsnd what they are getting into. They don't undersrsnd the purpose of baptism, that's why they take it lightly and see it as nothing. Ignoramus in the things of God will send many to hell fire.

"my people perish for lack of knowledge".

Romans 6:3-4 KJV
"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? [4] Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."

Even when cornelius received christ and was baptised with the Holy spirit, apostle Peter suggested that they baptism by water shouldn't not be neglected and they were baptised.

Acts 10:46-48 KJV
" For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, [47] Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? [48] And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days."

We all take the bible for granted but beware, heaven is for those that obey all God's word in the bible.

Why would a loving God punish a single lifetime of sin with endless lifetimes of torture? In HELL FIRE And, among sinners, does an adulterer merit the same punishment as a murderer? And what about the billions of people whose only sin was to follow a different faith?

House34:
Why would a loving God punish a single lifetime of sin with endless lifetimes of torture? In HELL FIRE And, among sinners, does an adulterer merit the same punishment as a murderer? And what about the billions of people whose only sin was to follow a different faith?

You need to pick up and read. Bible if you are even remotely interested in knowing of God , that is

Goshen360:


The problem is, when you see the word baptism or baptize your mind had been trapped to think it's automatically WATER. Go and study the meaning of the word baptism or baptize and apply to every context and you will see most verses you quoted it does say WATER....it's your mind that's seeing water. Even Romans you quoted doesn't say you're baptized INTO WATER.....read again with open mind

More Grace brother

christemmbassey:



More Grace brother

Thanks brother. Longest time. Where have you been hiding? Lol

Colossians 2:8

Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

Illuminatiship:
Na weed dey worry this one..

lol, don't you see his lips?
But jokes to the side, j used to know his daughters back then in highschool. Jem*** and J........... Those girls were something else. Dressing was not what you'd expect a pastor's daughter to be seen in. Weed? Dey dey roll up and smoke up that year. Parties? Lol, we dey see dem on a regular.
Then they went abroad. It became a lil more discreet. But people who knew their family just overlooked their lifestyle. Maybe they've changed now tho...Him too.
Lol, I remember that his Hummer H2 and H3 jeep as we used to call it then. Man can chill. Then with some escorts as backup. But I heard all that stopped. He's grown wiser or smarter. Whichever.

Kobojunkie, seriously with no humour or sarcasm - this is the first time I would be reading any of your comments where you dropped something that makes sense.

Congrats, bro. You're improving.

Playthepianos:
Kobojunkie, seriously with no humour or sarcasm - this is the first time I would be reading any of your comments where you dropped something that makes sense.

Congrats, bro. You're improving.

Like I already explained to someone else earlier, this is rather in fact the first time you have ever comprehended any of what I have said on this or any issue is what this means. So hopefully, you can keep up from here onwards.

Kobojunkie:
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John the Baptist's purpose of baptism is to announce Jesus. John himself said i indeed Baptize you with water but the mightier than I will Baptise you with the Holy Ghost. " Dr Abel said.

He went further to explain the basic significance of water and holy ghost in baptism. He said Jesus Christ has come to replace water with holy ghost.

" Today who is baptizing you?. Is it John or Jesus? If it is Jesus, He doesn't use water, Jesus use Holy Ghost. And if it is John, he uses water. Water is symbolic of the spirit.

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The early church had the hilyghost they still did water Baptism

Philip Baptized The Ethiopea Eunich.

Acts 8:36
And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?.

Paul Baptized some people too

1 Corinthians 1:16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.

petra1:

The early church had the hilyghost they still did water Baptism

Philip Baptized The Ethiopea Eunich.
Paul Baptized some people too

Considering what the man said about baptisms in the post you responded to, what you have above is meaningless, this because Jesus Christ's disciples Baptized countless even before the Holy Spirit showed up on them much later. Were those baptized by them then lost or something?

Make una try to dey remove una delusions from what is written abeg.

Kobojunkie:
Considering what the man said about baptisms in the post you responded to, what you have above is meaningless, this because Jesus Christ's disciples Baptized countless even before the Holy Spirit showed up on them much later. Were those baptized by them then lost or something?

Make una try to dey remove una delusions from what is written abeg.

I don't get you . Are you for baptism or against

petra1:
I don't get you . Are you for baptism or against

What you posted makes no sense since the man's claim is baptisms are no longer necessary.

What is written in scripture is that they are required. You however insinuate that baptisms were done by those who had the Holy Spirit, a lie since many of the same apostles, where recorded to have baptized countless even before the Holy Spirit showed up.

Kobojunkie:
What you posted makes no sense since the man's claim is baptisms are no longer necessary.

What is written in scripture is that they are required. You however insinuate that baptisms were done by those who had the Holy Spirit, a lie since many of the same apostles, where recorded to have baptized countless even before the Holy Spirit showed up.

I thought you have repented. Of posting ipokupo.

The preacher said there is no need for water Baptism since Jesus was to bsptise us with the holyspirit. I pointed out to him that even those have received the holyspirit still baptized others with water

petra1:
I thought you have repented. Of posting ipokupo.

The preacher said there is no need for water Baptism since Jesus was to bsptise us with the holyspirit. I pointed out to him that even those have received the holyspirit still baptized others with water

Again....What you posted makes no sense since the man's claim is (water)baptisms are no longer necessary.

What is written in scripture is that they are required. You however insinuate that water baptisms were done by those who had the Holy Spirit, a lie since many of the same apostles, where recorded to have baptized countless even before the Holy Spirit showed up.

Kobojunkie:
Like I already explained to someone else earlier, this is rather in fact the first time you have ever comprehended any of what I have said on this or any issue is what this means. So hopefully, you can keep up from here on forward.

Kobojunkie:
Controversial Nigeria preacher, Dr Abel Damina has argued against the practice of water Baptism that is being practiced by the Christians.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9rWv0mM5TU

The founder of Abel Damina Ministries and Power City International Church in Uyo insisted that the practice of water Baptism should be discarded because it does hold any significance.

In arguing his position, the Pastor made reference to John the Baptist who Baptize Jesus.

According to him the sole purpose of water Baptism was when Jesus was about to begin his ministry and he needed John to announce him to the world through baptism.

"We are making reference to John the Baptist because he is the founder and originator of water Baptism. We are

John the Baptist's purpose of baptism is to announce Jesus. John himself said i indeed Baptize you with water but the mightier than I will Baptise you with the Holy Ghost. " Dr Abel said.

He went further to explain the basic significance of water and holy ghost in baptism. He said Jesus Christ has come to replace water with holy ghost.

" Today who is baptizing you?. Is it John or Jesus? If it is Jesus, He doesn't use water, Jesus use Holy Ghost. And if it is John, he uses water. Water is symbolic of the spirit.

He went further by quoting the book of John chapter seven verse 38 where the concept of the holy spirit is explained.

"When there was no holy Ghost they used water but the moment the Holy Ghost came water expired."

Dr Abel Damina also said people should stop believing that once they are Baptized they are automatically born again.

"There are many people in church today that are not born again. What they understand born again is water Baptism. They believe since they have been baptize they are born again and that is why we have a lot of false brethren."
https://ng.opera.news/ng/en/religion/amp/11992c92a6f13c44427e3362c65d0f37

A direct instruction from Jesus to His disciples
Mat 28:19:
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

Don't forget that Jesus was baptized too!

Some people like being controversial. Yes, Baptism DOES NOT save it is an affirmation of commitment to live the rest of one's life for God (turning a new leaf).

House34:


Why would a loving God punish a single lifetime of sin with endless lifetimes of torture? In HELL FIRE And, among sinners, does an adulterer merit the same punishment as a murderer? And what about the billions of people whose only sin was to follow a different faith?

Your business is to CHOOSE where you'll rather be. Enjoy and endless future because of the choices you made in your earth life OR
Receive an endless rejection because of the choices you made in your earth life.

Who told you that God is the "soft-teddy bear" loving God?

The Lake of Fire is a figurative term meaning God's REFUSE DUMP!

Kobojunkie:
Again....What you posted makes no sense since the man's claim is (water)baptisms are no longer necessary.

What is written in scripture is that they are required. You however insinuate that water baptisms were done by those who had the Holy Spirit, a lie since many of the same apostles, where recorded to have baptized countless even before the Holy Spirit showed up.

The scriptures I quoted were post holy spirit advent. I'm I missing something

petra1:
The scriptures I quoted were post holy spirit advent. I'm I missing something

You are missing the fact that it was commanded of Jesus Christ regardless of what the apostles themselves did afterwards.

Born of water and of the spirit doesn't mean water baptism, neither does it mean physical birth. The combination actually means to be born of the spirit which brings along transformation of the heart (cleansing). The water there signifies the cleansing of the Holy spirit.

The new testament is about worship in Spirit and in truth, no more of rituals and symbolism.

More details here:

https://www.gotquestions.org/baptism-John-3-5.html

Note: I don't agree with all the doctrines of the above website but I agree with this one and many others.

Kobojunkie:
Again...

Those who approach Jesus Christ first need to die to their old life before they can proceed towards the Kingdom of God. To gain access, they have to be reborn, given a new lease on life - born-again. It has nothing to do with your former birth - from your mother's womb - as Jesus Christ made clear to Nicodemus.

Again...According to Jesus Christ Himself, you have be born-again in order to enter into the Kingdom of God, a pivotal step in the process of Salvation process, and what does it mean to be born-again? It means to be born of water(baptized in water) and born of Spirit ( a birth of the Spirit kind). All this is explained clearly for all to know in John 3 vs 1 - 21, Jesus Christ's late evening conversation with Nicodemus.

As for what it means to be baptized in water, well, John the Baptist explained that the baptism in water served as a mark that one has changed one's life from the old way to new life - a sign of repentance - Matthew 3 vs 7 - 11.

Jesus Christ never actually baptized anyone Himself so He couldn't have used this baptism to "wash away sins" as you claim. However, Jesus Christ did indeed make it perfectly clear that it was require for the transition from mere believer to born-again aka saved to be made complete...you cannot enter the Kingdom of God without it.

Another thing Jesus Christ never did is He never even teaches that He came to "wash away sins". No, He died in fulfillment of the Old Law so that He may pay the ransom owed God by the lost sheep of Israel from the Old Covenant, but He never actually states that He washes away their sins. The one who washes away sins is God Himself, not Jesus Christ - Ezekiel 36 vs 25 - 27 - this He did several times in His Old Covenant and does again when one of those who belong to His Old Covenant choses to repent to follow Jesus Christ. .

Again, Jesus Christ, forgives sins - through Jesus Christ we are able to do just that, but God alone washes away sins.

You probably need to pay attention to what He actually did say on this subject so you are not there easily swayed by men and there many doctrines and traditions.

Kobojunkie:
You are missing the fact that it was commanded of Jesus Christ regardless of what the apostles themselves did afterwards.

I want to believe you are referring to the following scripture.

Mat 28:19:
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

Do you realize that baptism doesn't always mean water baptism?

Baptism actually means immersion. And we've seen baptism in bible mean teaching.

1 Cor. 10:1-2
1. I do not want you to be unaware, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea,
2. and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea,

What does baptized into Moses mean? It means they were immersed into Moses's teachings.

So to align with other teachings of scripture what Jesus really meant was to teach in the name of the Father, Son and Holy spirit.

Again for the new testament there's only one Baptism which is the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 4:4-6
New International Version
4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

Acts 19
King James Version
19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied

Notice Paul's surprise that they were said to be Baptized but it wasn't the baptism of the Holy spirit that he asked them "Unto what then were ye baptized?" Because if you say you are baptized then it should be of the only one Baptism which is that of the Holy Ghost but they instead had John's baptism (water baptism)