One thing av learnt from arguing with hensben, the more you argue with him, he will be significantly reducing your IQ points just by reading what he has to say. Later he will tell you to see the sense in his nonsense. When it's only nonsense...
tonididdy: drinkwater is a done deal and barkley is a coward.
Wow... did you guys see that leicester agent jetting off in his car to the medication grounds with lots of papers in his hand. Now thats greatness!!!
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Leicester city is only trying to push the Adrian Silva deal over the line... Chelsea is yet to meet Leicester city's valuation of Drinkpiss. But they have until 1am to finalize the deal. As do all EPL clubs.. Ross Barkley rejected Chelsea midway through his medicals and skysports understands that it's the player's decision not to sign for Chelsea.
SailorXY: what's there to make excuses for? that's how many goals & assists for Martial in three games? I don't even know where you are driving @ exactly. are you saying he's having a bad season so far or he had a bad game against Leicester? I saw your championing of Perisic's cause as some kind of Spartacus, care to tell us his stats so far?
I believe in Martial and I always pray that he delivers the kind of performance he's been giving us on a regular basis. But I still think he he has a thing or two to learn more to horn his skills. If Mourinho is persistent about Perisic, it's because he is consistent. He might not be world best but he will be delivering decent performances on a regular basis. The same thing Mou said about Matic. This is the stats you requested for. Mind you, am not arguing for or against anybody...
Nihilist: Honestly, I think Christensen. He got race reviews against spurs on his debut and that was a baptism of fire. Based on the preseason comments on this thread, Lindelof isn't trusted by your fellow fans, or Jose for that matter.
Maybe the gulf in quality between EPL and Bundesliga is not as vast as the gulf between EPL and Portuguese league.
This is based on the match Christiana z played for CFC this season in the EPL. I don't think that is fair judging by the fans view of a player when he is yet to play a competitive game in the league. Preseason is what it is.. Preseason. Afterall if we are to judge Bakayoko based on Ibime's view, he will never play for any top team in the league again. But it's all good. We will revisit this issue again at the end of the season.
Nihilist: To be fair, winning Portuguese league is not really an achievement.
It's on the same level as Belgian league or Ukranian league and is even ranked lower than the Russian league by Uefa coefficient.
It doesn't really make sense to be comparing a player in Bundesliga to a player on Portugal and claiming the Portuguese player is better cos he won the league there - that's like comparing someone who plays in midtable EPL to someone who plays in League 1 and saying the League 1 player is better cos he won that league.
I'm not getting involved in comparing both players though, just pointing out a flaw in the metric of comparison.
Portuguese league until 2 years ago only had like 15 teams sef.
That was part of the reason why I agreed to go down to individual achievements..
ALL sentiments aside, who do u think is the better player?
hensben: You are just been foolish here and I am not sorry to say this. Benfica best team in Portuguese league after Porto( it is debatable though), Porto and benfica are just like Bayern Munich and Dortmund. You keep chipping in team achievement into this discourse just to sound intelligent but you are not. Christensen played in ucl for Borusia Mochenglabach. Here is him against mighty Barcelona;
Hensben, am done with this discussion. Christensen is a good young player. I like him and I wish him the best in his career. But comparing him and lindelof is just criminal. It doesn't matter if Benfica is a big club or or and mochenglabach is not. Lindelof was part of the defence that won 3 consecutive tittles in Benfica. I don't like trading insults and av insulted you enough. When he's achieved what Lindelof z been able to achieve in his career, then come let's talk. Until then, Am done.
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hensben: You are the one not verse enough to know the difference. Ok let me break it down for you. It means Christensen was the best player in the club in that season just like Herrra for your club last season unlike Lindelof who became best in a particular position, in other words he wasn't the best player in the club or in the under 21 tournament.
Going by your argument, Christiana must be better than hummels because he didn't win best player in Munich. Lindelof have won titles with Benfica consecutively since he broke into the senior team. What was the team achievements of Borusia Mochenglabach when Christiana won player of the season? For your information, Sunderland also have a player of the season. How many matches have Christiana played in Europe to even be compared to Lindelof? I have obliged you enough and I can't continue wallowing in foolishness with you. If comprehension is your problem, go back to school. Ciao
hensben: You don't even know the meaning when they say one player sh1t on the other. Shame nor dey catch you to dey brag about under 21 team of the tournament? A test run tournament for youth players. Someone that won Denmark best talent and club player of the year is what you are comparing to Lindelof that was in team of under 21 tournament and best defender in Sweden. Compare and contrast their award; Christensen won best PLAYER while Lindelof became best in a particular position(HIS DEFENSIVE DUTY).Na wa for you oo
I am really tired of calling you Hen'sbrain. Seriously I don't enjoy it. But sometimes u make me feel like I have no other choice but to call you such. Christiana won best talent in his country and Lindelof won best defender in his own country. What are u disputing again?? Christiana won player of the year at mochenglabach, did he win it as striker? Sometimes I marvel at the things that u cook up just to score points even though u always end up losing.
I av shown you the his overall achievements. U said that you want individual honors. Now you want us to start arguing the difference between player and defender.
Somehow, I just remembered this saying... Never argue with a fool because he will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience...
hensben: Now compare their individual honor. One was Denmark best talent while the other was in under 21 team of the tournament. One was named player of the year in his club while the other was Uefa breakthrough so nothing wow in their achievement yet but christensen's achievement is on senior level.
Son, are u sure u are alright??
When Christiana was winning Danish talent of the year award, that same year, 2015, Lindelof won UEFA European Under 21 Championship.. Do I need to tell you the difference?
Not only did he win the tournament, he was also in the best 11. Team of the tournament.
I know you don't know what Fotbollsgalan means. Don't worry, I will tell you. It's Swedish annual awards. When Christiana was winning Borusia Mochenglabach best player, Lindelof won Fotbollsgalan best defender.
He also made UEFA Champions League breakout 11 in 2016.
Am not saying that Christiana is not a good player, no. Am only saying that when it comes to football achievements, both on Club, International and Individual levels, Lindelof shi.its on Christiana.
hensben: You ended up showing me team achievement. Where are his individual honors? You will see Andrea Christensen's individual honors in the pic below...Christensen is just 21.
hensben: We have never complained cos we take it as trolling. I mean there is no sense in comparing Herrera or Pogba to Kante, he outperformed both. How is Christensen not better than Lindelof? Or na by signing fee them take dey rate players this days according to Man U fan.
How is Christiana better than Victor Lindelof? Soon ur fellow shekpites will be saying that we are always trying to make unnecessary comparisons.
Below is a list of Lindelof's achievements and he is only 22.
Am waiting for Christiana's or whatever you call her..
Greatihex: mahrez wants to leave leicester. They cn gv us mahrez plus like £10m and take willian. Mahrez cnt be worse than willian atleast. Though, leicester may nt knw that. We cn maga them again.
Are you listening to yourself? Send Willian to LCF? Because he's a dummy dat doesn't recognize what a career wrecking move means or what? Willian will prefer to be sold back to Ukraine dan go to a team always fighting relegation or even a midtable team in the EPL
dopeJemi: just 37k you say? no play oh, 37k be like 370k for naija oh
how much you use stake?
Lol..
2k
Last week, na careless game of 71 odds wey I put 3h come gimme 26k. Other ones wey I play with better money, all of them cast. I no too play game dis week. Na only dis one ticket. So make Tottenham respect themselves just score one goal..
hensben: It was a fluke like I said earlier. Michael won ballon de or can you say he was better than thiery henry. Will he even come out top ten best striker of all time.canavaro too.
There is no sense in your nonsense... It's all nonsense bro. It's no longer about Pogba, you shifted to Lukaku's fee, then insecurity made u think we were attacking ur diction and tried to blame English for the wrong and irrelevant information you provided. Now you have shifted to Owen and Thierry Henry and is looking to add Canavaro to the mix. I would have said that the school you attended only offered you admission just so that they will use you as lab rat to test new drugs and you paid them for it, but no, I won't. Go home bro, no need arguing with you.
hensben: Ok for someone to win ballon de or then what will this generation like yourself call such player now. If Pogba win ballon de or now won't say he is the next best thing after slice bread.
Ogbeni go and play with sand. He came 8th in the voting. Your people wants to help you and cover your blunder by claiming you made a mistake but you don't want to rest until you have disgraced them, abi?
hensben: Michael Owen was once world best player. Can you now say he is a better footballer than thiery henry because of that. Will Owen even come out of top 10 best striker of all time. Hazard is 100% world class.
Michael Owen was never world best player. The year he won Ballon d'Or, Luis Figo was voted World best player, Becks came second and Raul came 3rd. Owen finished 7th or 8th. What makes Hazard world class and Pogba not? Going by what each have achieved so far in football. You also said Pogba was not the heart of Juventus midfield and they did ok even when he left... Did they crumble when Vidal left? Or Pirlo? Do you think Chelsea will crumble if Kunta Kinte left? Pogba is the product of social media according to you but you can't discredit his achievements on the pitch.