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Abithel:
Demons are of lower planes, that's what makes them extremely ugly and irritating (morbid shapes) to an human sight. All they do is to frighten

a JJC u know.

The planes can also mean dimensions

Humans live in their own planes which at now is ideal for them

The third eye is real, its the pineal gland at the center of the human head at the level of the forehead/Temple.

If everyone's third eye is awakened, we would have known/realized that we don't need a deity that professes to be

God that we must serve or worship in order to attain the so called heaven.

With the third eye, you can see into other planes/dimensions/heavens

With the third eye functioning, humans once again won't be in these confused state we're in.

Know these, the third eye is being deliberately dumbed-down/weakened by the activities and orchestrations of 'the powers that be' - the

so-called oracle of the gods that controls humanity from the on set.

[b]Vaccination [/b]is an important factor here... Its the first inoculation that impairs the pineal gland.

And mind you, the greys are just one of the types of what you referred to as angels, there are as many beings as are different types of animals on earth in the universe and the dimensions

Sorry I diverted, I think its for good.

It is you who Think that Demons are Horrid in their original form..And this ugliness comes from thousands of years of Horrid and ugly perception of them..Whatever you imagine of them,is what they will manifest of for you..As long as Your third eye is not yet functional,you can't behold their true form..Until that is attained,You have no right calling them "ugly"..After all,you don't know the true form of your Soul!!
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As for the greys,I know they are the ones masquareding as Yahweh and Angels and a certain Masleh(messiah),whose ultimate aim is to be feeding off the psychic energies of Christians!!
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As for other beings,I know they exist..That's why I always laugh at Christians who are brainwashed to believe every evil being is a demon!!

honourhim:

Those who defend God won't be open enough to make some of the points I made.

Really!!

Redemption is operational in this world while perfection is in heaven. Again that's how he wants it.
Without redemption we won't know his mercy.

So will you reject redemption because you are not ok with the fact that he didn't give you perfection?

You are still doing what you accuse your fellow brethren of doing bro-Defending God...
You are still begging the question which is: Since you have in your statement above,stated that God intentionally planned for man to fail..He created man to be messed up,therefore why does he still take offence?

PastorAIO:
Yahweh the Noahic God which is not to be confused with Yahweh the Adamic God.

Hnmmmm..See confusion!!
Which one is Yahweh the Noahic God and Yahweh the Adamic God again?
Okay,am talking of Yahweh the Mosaic God,Yahweh the Jacobic God,Yahweh the Abrahamic God,Yahweh the Elijaic God, Yahweh the Jesusic God, Yahweh the Paulic God,etc......
That's who am talking of!!

honourhim:
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Yes he is all-knowing. He knows the end from the beginning, that means he knew lucifer will fall when he created him, he knew man will fall and he created him. The redemption plan was made from the foundation of the world and this also shows he knew man will fall. .

Lol. ....You are trying so hard to defend and protect your God. ..
Prevention as is noted, is better than cure; Of what use is redemption When perfection could have prevented "The Fall"?

IanDiamonds:
Funny you are. You like asking questions but you dont like being asked.
I take this as a No? Might I know If I'm right you mean No?

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You Asked me if I believe in God,I answered you and said yes...
You now started asking me if I believe in Yahweh again...What God were you referring to previously then?

Abithel:
Who told you demons are from higher planes... Then angels are from lower planes... Humans are from?

Demons are of higher planes of existence,same with your angels(Greys)....
Humans can't live in that type of plane,at least not yet;Till you attain a certain level of spiritual awareness and knowledge,which starts with opening of your third eye(Your spiritual eyes per se)....

IanDiamonds:
Do you believe in YAHWEH the Abrahamic God..?

You are wasting your time with those questions bro...If you don't have anything to say,go your way!!

Krasid:
It is not about who provides the final assist, but those who makes the decisive key pass.I tell you that if xavi and iniesta were still at their peaks, then there would be no need for messi to drop deep to provide those key passes.

Both in their Peak periods,Messi have given assist each season than both of them combined too!!

honourhim:
Yea. He is the creator of all things. He also never pretends about his person.

He created the Other god(s) and Lucifer too right?

The best is to accept him as written in the bible than carving out our own idea of him. Thanks.

You are contradicting yourself again here...If I am to accept him as he is,of what purpose is the Freewill he gave me?He could as well have made me without a mind of my own,so that I can't reason at all...For the fact that he doesn't know that his creation will revolt against him makes him a "less-knowing creator" and a creator who is afraid of his creation.....
He should have seen all this things,why did he still allow it and then at some point,he is noted to "regret" it.....How is that possible for an all-knowing God?

honourhim:
Yea full affirmation because i ve experienced the truth as contained in them and I'm still experiencing it. Both directly ad indirectly.

I have no reason not to believe what i ve tested and proved to be true. Thanks.

Alright...
Explain with details and examples on the bolded @Above..

Krasid:
With this statement, you have confirmed the argument that much of messi's success can be attributed to xavi and iniesta.Meanwhile ronaldo has played with kaka,alonso,ozil,di maria and now james,bale,modric,kroos(not forgetting those he was with at united).Yet he has been able to adapt to all.

Do you know that Alves has given Messi more assists than both of Xavi and Iniesta combined?
Truth is,Messi makes them both better...

honourhim:
1. There is nothimg in the birth of Jesus that suggests adultery. Your judgement contradicts biblical record. His conception was purely divine. Your believe or unbelief of this does not validate or invalidate this.

2. God did not make his son believe rather his son knows that he is the almighty and that with him all things are possible.

3. Jesus didnt fantasize anything. He walked on water, he turned water into wine, cast out demons, healed the sick, forgave people their sins, raised the dead and did many great things. If this looks impossible in your eyes thats for you. Your opinion doesnt cancel the truth about it.

4. God did not make Jesus believe he can fly to heaven. Jesus ascended to heaven and he is still there and will come back again for us. Again if this appears impossible to you thats for you. It doesnt change the truth about it.

All that you have written are contrary to the biblical account which lands back to what I said earlier on that you people just read the bible, summmarize who you think God is and conclude that that is whom he is. Thats wrong.

Again If God does something that goes contrary to what the bible records he can do that is when you people can say he did something contrary to his attributes in the bible but when his actions fall within what is written about him in the scripture then you have no case against him. He is the Almighty Jehovah, the creator of all things.

If you believe he does not exist it doesnt change anything. Its just your opinion and i dont bother my head about that. My own point is- If you want to judge his person then it has to be in line with what is recorded about him in the scripture and not what you think he should be or he is. What you think doesnt change anything about him. Thanks.

All your perceived points in the post above seems to be full of affirmations and certainties bro...You seem to have witnessed how the events occurred!!
Why do you so much believe in the Four gospels message?

honourhim:
Ok bro I don't feel bad because we are discussing and I'm the one that asked you to say what you understand about God from what the bible records.

Let me start by answering your view on him from the old testament then when I'm free again I ll comment on what you wrote about the new testament.

Now you judged him outside who he is in the bible as I said before.

Muderer- God is not a muderer because he is the owner of life. He gives and takes as recorded in the bible. Nowhere did he state in the bible that everyone will die same way. Kindly show me if there is.

A thief- he can't be a thief because he created all things and he owns them all.

He cannot be said to reap where he did not sow because he owns all things.

Permits incest- in the first place he was the one who defined incest. If he did not, we all would ve been sleeping around with our sisters without finding it wrong. He is a creator and knows his concept for creation. If his concept was to allow for procreation to go on without any hindrance for sometime before placing bounds is he answerable to any of us?

Let me also ask you this- the sex outside marriage and same-sex thing that he called bad and which the world redefined as good are you still on God's side on this?
And if thhe world wakes up tomorrow and re-defines incest as good would you still accuse God of doing bad?

Commited a lot of destruction- and what if destruction was part of his concept in creation for life as it appears to be?

Did a lot of magic- what do you mean by magic? What the bible said is miracle. May be you can help explain the two to me.

For now I ll stop here because am busy. Will get back. Cheers.

From your write up above,I can only deduce one thing that summarizes all your post,which is:
That God(Yahweh) is the creator of all things,and that he can do whatever he likes with his creation being an All-Knowing creator right? And that we have no right to question His actions right?

RikoduoSennin:
Please Define Murder. Human's kill other humans who break human laws, why should a toy maker be held accountable for destroying few of his own toys?



Interesting, what did he stole?



Hahaha, where and when?



You have two goats in our poultry, a male and a female and its expected that they multiply- how do you propose that will happen.

Tell me, who stipulates incest to be wrong? If God does not exist and humans are product of Nature- why is incest a wrong thing to you or what makes incest a bad thing.




Where is your proof, remember keyword: "Loves"



Please define Genocide.

You have a poutry of sick animals- chicken and rabbid dogs, do you have a right to put them down (kill them) or not. To protect other livestock and persons.



Show me where, because 2 Thess 3:10 "...that if any would not work neither should he eat"



What is magic? Are you admitting his existence since you refer to him doing Magic? Magic done by a living thing I suppose.



Load of crap! Who told you God slept with Mary. For someone who claimed to be a christian Minister you lack knowledge in everything. No wonder these books messed with your mind.

You understand our a paper is faxed from point A to point B, but you don't understand how Jesus became flesh from heaven to earth.



Do you have proof that any of this did not happen? Men like "Chris Angel" have done similiar things today, they are still alive, study them while you can.



Do you have proof that Jesus did not accend to the Heavens or you simply do not believe because you simply can not fathom how that is possible just like cave men can't fathom how a metal can fly for hours without touching the ground.



Do you have any proof that Paul and John did not see a vision of heaven. Remember they both did not visit there in the fresh.



All these sounds like the ranting of some "really" confused.

Please open a thread and invite me let's talk...I can't really start replying all you wrote here!!

IanDiamonds:
Do you believe in God? Make up your mind before I answer you.

Yes,I believe in God!

IanDiamonds:
I think the question should have been Why does a stupid creation question it's Creator, when the Creator clearly stated in his word (Isiah ch 45 vs 11) " Thus says the LORD, the Holy of Israel, and his Maker: "Will you question me about my children, or command me concerning the work of my hands?".
Your answer is in the word of God. I thought you said you read the bible in and out. How come you're askin' tis' baselss senseless questions?

I thought he gave this Creation of His Freewill?

honourhim:
. Bro don't feel I'm attacking you. I'm not. Its just a cool discussion. Just tell me your understanding about the personality called God from what you ve read in the bible. Thanks.

Okay.....
He is a murderer,a thief,Reaps where he did not sow,Permits incest,Loves destruction,committed the highest genocide I have ever read of anywhere,Loves laziness,Does a lot of Magic and makes the people lose sense of reality from fantasy....That's for the old testament...
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In the new testament,he committed adultery with Another persons wife to bear his son;He made his son believe he had supernatural powers, that's why the son has been notedly been able to fantasise about Walking on water, Turning water into wine,casting out legions of demons and sending them into a pig,Saving the world,etc...
Finally,he made his son believe he could actually fly by dreaming of flying to a heaven..All this made the son(Jesus) finally develop a personality disorder,as there are instances of him claiming to be one with the Father and what follows is a torrent of endless dreams about a heaven with a golden mansions he is preparing for his followers if they can follow in his delusion...
Two of the apostles(John and Paul) bought this lie perfectly and smoked the same SK he was smoking..Instances of them being to heaven are reminiscent in the bible....
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Don't take it with a bad feeling bro,that's my own thought on the biblical God...
Tell me yours then(as I first asked you already)..
Thanks!

malvisguy212:
who is the law giver? Is it not God? God warn adam not to eat from the try of good and evil ,adam disobey God and face punishment,surely cain and abel would have learn not to disobey God or face the same punishment . So the knowledge of good and evil is passed unto them.cain violate it and face judgment the same way adam violate it and face judgment.

Am sorry,I didn't quite get the part where They were told "Thou shall not kill" before the perceived murder of Abel.Mind telling me?

malvisguy212:
mr satanist, which question is that.

Am sorry,I didn't quite get the part where They were told "Thou shall not kill" before the perceived murder of Abel.Mind telling me?

joseph1013:
Good to have you chip in your bit. However, the challenge with religion especially in a country like ours is that it is always in our face and it's difficult for us to keep quiet in the presence of this archaic blueprint for lifestyle and behaviour.

Almost everybody who relates with me in school knows am not a religious person..They respect it..They are afraid to enter into any dialogue in religion(Christianity) with me..But they don't make fun of me,never..
Some however,will be like mouth opened,astonished and with that irritating look of "this guy is lost,may God help you"...And I will be like,damn; low mentality is ignorance!

malvisguy212:
the fact that the law was not giving yet does not mean man will sin,just like adam and eve were judge through the divine law of God mean cain was judge through the same law.

Oh! Prior before the visible physical law for man,there was an invisible divine law for man? And that man could actually sin? How can one sin when there is nothing to sin about? How can you break a law when the law is nonexistent?
As a law student,let me tell you something about laws: A law is not a law that is non-existent...You can not because someone committed something that you think is not right and then you make a law in retrospective ( backdating a law) so that the person can be punished under it......
That's actually what you are insinuating your God did!!

@joseph1013,what you are experiencing now is purely normal..Its a sort of unleashing of anger because you realised just how stupid you must have been believing all the lies in the bible...
Questions like why didn't I see this earlier? why did I not embark on this truth seeking earlier? So many "why's and How's" will continue to pop up....
But here is the real thing: Now that you know,now that you are fully convinced that what you previously believed in is all lies,what next? what do I do with it?
Here is my take,Move on

malvisguy212:
quote were I tell lies.

No need quoting it,I will tell it to you...
You said the law didn't apply before God gave the Israelites the Law,what then was Cain judged upon?

Another Fella sees the truth!! Well done Joseph ....

honourhim:
The problem with some of you is that you read about God in the bible, summarize whom you think he is(which is not exactly what the bible records about him) and use your summary of him to judge him. It doesnt work that way.

Pls may i ask, what do you know about God as you read in the bible? Kindly answer if you are not going to be arrogant and abusive in this discussion. But if you will be, then ignore this post. Thanks.

Tell me what you know about God that is not in the bible?

malvisguy212:
the law has not yet made active, is no theological problem but GOD IS ALL KNOWING, God judge him however that was not the sin that lead to his judgment, he was a murderer. Thank you for your time. My battery is low.

Even when you are caught red handed in your lies,you keep building more unnecessary lies to cover it up...
I tire for this kind blindness ooo!!!

SIRcumalot:
The crazy woman from homeland ?
Lwkmd!!
I abandon the series quickly, but that Saul dude was the only character I liked.

Anybody recommend a decent comedy series that isn't so popular

Lol...That Woman and Qinn are the reason am still watching that series!!
I even thought it ended with the death of Brody,only to realise it has a 4th Series!!

sebod:
Sir, we were termed uefalona then because of the hatred we created for ourselves having dominated the world football, people were jealous of the success and the beautiful way we play, some admitted and confessed it while so tried to cover up even though they admired it, hence the use of different names. As sir Alex rightly said then "every team benefits form ref errors at one point or the other". And those years you made mention of, we demolished the likes of Arsenal, Bayern, Madrid, Lyon(that constantly eliminated Madrid) and even Man U to write history. While Madrid would only crash out when they faced a big team save last season when they won it. Take it or leave it. RM have always gotten a favourable draw all the way to the semis in recent time compared to other teams.

Forgone issue bro..Let's just leave it at that!!

AjanleKoko:
A sensible poster.

For me, to win the competition you have to play all these people, and beat them.

Exactly....
I have been always forgetting to ask you this:
Do you by any means have ties with anything Jamaica?

barackohandso:
Hmmmn nice. But then again bro, if one falls at a particular spot, he has to tread carefully when next he passes that exact spot. The fixtures are reminiscent of last season's draw and we all know how it ended. The posts you're referring to just shows the level of faith the fans have in the team, and rightly so. Many things can change before then, just hoping it'll be positive change

Lucho needs to listen!!
He is just arrogant and full of himself!!

liveLongNprospa:
Oga If I was a girl..i'd marry u now for dis ur post...

Lol. Tell your sweet sis that am available then!!

logica:
I don't know which favors you personally received from UEFA but I doubt Barca received any favors. Now when 2 clubs from the same country win their groups and both have EQUAL chances of being paired with clubs from other countries yet one keeps getting Manchester City, something is certainly wrong somewhere. Why didn't Real Madrid get PSG, Manchester City or Arsenal over 2 seasons?

When you were getting Olympiakos and Arsenal and Lyon and Bayer Leverkusen,while Madrid was getting Porto,Liverpool in the Knockout stages,it seemed fair then!!
I don't want to start giving our hatets cause to attack us on,let me end here.......But here is an obvious one: Chelsea v Barcelona,2009@Stamford Bridge!!

No offence here,but some comments here have gradually reduced to silly frustrations and unnecessarily childish.....
Which one is Madrid is receiving favourable draws? which one is Uefa hates Barcelona?
Maybe you guys have forgotten so easily that between 2009-2012,we were literally and ultimately termed Uefalona…… That's because we were favored then effortlessly!!
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Maybe Shakter Donetsk who got Bayern Munich or Shalke04 who got Madrid should go hang themselves!!
If reverse has been the case,we would be playing Chelsea now while PSG will face Man city!!