₦airaland Forum

Tingotoe:
This is where you've exposed your ignorance of American geography. Washington state is on the Pacific northwest and is in no way associated with Washington DC the capital on the northeast. What is the connection between a state and the capital? My friend go and update your knowledge

This is big lie! Wahington is one! D.C is district inside Washington.

You go update yourself. I am not your usual APC minion you can bamboozle with lies.

Moreover, washington's size has no correlation with the Abuja situation. Abuja is a big ass place. I have been there many times and a Minister and Governor can operate therein without their functions colliding. We have both democrats and republicans holding office in Washington State without hassles.

Pramiyal Jayapal of the progressive caucus of the Democratic Party in the US House of Reps represents the good people of Washington State. In total, 8 Democrats and 2 Republicans represent Washington in the US House of Representatives. So why cant the indigenes of Abuja enjoy the same rights since the Supreme Court is set to nullify their special status donated and enshrined in section 134 of the 1999 Constitution?

naijapips04:
Your argument is saying 25% of votes in FCT is enough to elect anyone. PEPT is telling you that FCT voters are not special. You can delude yourself with your other conjunctions but that is the argument.

The PEPT may be correct. What we professionals are saying is that there are real life consequences for the affirmance of PEPT's judgment.

The framers of Section 134 of the 1999 Constitution are old, wise and considerate military guys who have shed blood to keep Nigeria one.

How bad can a President be if he cant get 25% in Abuja?? Is he that hated? ALL NIGERIANS live in Abuja. It is a melting pot and the symbol of Nigerian unity. A Nigerian President must get 25% there. If that provision must change due to a constitutional interpretation by the Lord Justices on the Supreme Court bench, then the people of Abuja must be accorded their due rights.

2mch:
This is actually so scary that you people as a large group refuse to see logic, common sense and cannot apply it. You are also taking a loss this hard. Crazy. Everyone else has moved on.

What are you talking about? Everybody has moved on but we are just analyzing the effects of the precedent of the upcoming judgment.

I am tired of you APC guys jaree. And it is a pity most of you are yorubas.

We yorubas are supposed to be fair, wise and just but partisanship has done a number on you guys.

We are talking about Nigerian constitution but you guys insist on tribal bigotry to destroy the constitution.

My own kind of yoruba still cares about the constitution. I dont hate Asiwaju and i wont burn the constitution and destroy Nigeria's Supreme Court because he is a fellow Yoruba man. Things have to be done appropriately for Nigeria to still stand as a united country. You might think you are spiting the igbos but you are destroying Nigeria. Some of us lawyers dont have any other profession and we wont allow Asowaju Tinubu to destroy what we labored almost 8 years to achieve because of one man's ambition.

Landowner101:
Other Nigerians don't have two heads, since they can elect governor's and senators, since there's no special status attributed to Abuja citizens they also have right to vote their Governors and senators, as they can't be inferior to other Nigerians, What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.

It is a very simple matter. I dont know why they convulsing upon realising the effect of a Supreme Court precedent.

Tingotoe:
Oga you're research is highly flawed. Washington state is very different from Washington DC. The distance between the two is further than that of Nigeria and Ghana. So what analogy are you making?

I dont think distance has anything to do with this issue. And we both know Washington DC is located inside Washington State. Washington is one and not two, the size notwithstanding.

Likewise, FCT can have a minister while a Governor has and exercises executive powers donated by the constitution and the mandate of the electorates. This is not a difficult issue at all. It is just a constitutional consequence which will flow from the Supreme Court's judgment.

helinues:


Do you know how many of your likes that have been bursted for impersonating? Mtcheew

Funkeee, abeg bring beans make I pick some

Helinues, i dont care! I am a yoruba man and a million of your kind cannot change that.

You think our education in yorubaland is a joke?

Asiwaju might have succeeded in subverting the laws in Lagos State. We are talking of Federal level now and it is the 1999 constitution that applies. If you tinker with it through perverse judgments, then there are real life consequences.

Fkmodhi:
Agbados people are confused let’s see what dey will tell Ariwoola to deliver…

It is a catch 22 situation for the Court. Whatever decision it renders will have real life consequences.

Unless they dont want Nigeria to be governed by the 1999 Constitution again.

These issues are all interwoven. Judgments are not delivered without deep consideration of its effects on the society.

Dafresh:
I love this will Abuja also ha LG I mean chairmen?

Why not? All the laws will need amendment once the Supreme Court delivers its judgment.

helinues:
Guy, I can't count how many times you have been mentioning I am a Yoruba upadan , who asked you? Definitely you are not cos there is no need

Sebi na Peter Obi you supported in the last election, even though I wasn't around to engage 7 months before the election, I read all una arguments which are even more sweeter than this, all the Anap polls and co. How far today.

So why do I need to continue wasting my time with this argument when nothing will happen to the status quo about Abuja being FCT not a state.

I keep mentioning my tribe because you APC operatives on Nairaland keep acting like it is only igbos that can be objective and fair in their analysis of issues. You are not more yoruba than me and it is not all yorubas who are tribalistic and dont care about the constitution.

Regarding your last statement that nothing will change about FCT, watch and see. Maybe you think courts are for jokes or political games.

Do you know what it takes to be a lawyer?

SMH.

naijapips04:
You ofekes should go and read the judgement.

FCT voters are not more important than every other voter in Nigeria.

You are responding with emotion. We all agree they are not special.

In the same vein, they have the right to elect a Governor like other Nigerians. Besides, a potential Supreme Court precedent nullifying section 134 is about to strip the territory of its special status. It is only fair to accord them they same right now that they are ordinary like other Nigerians.

helinues:
Are you a lawyer? Cos sometimes one would just be wondering why you people thinking your wish must be done by all means.

Are you saying those who wrote the Nigeria constitution didn't know what they are doing by not calling Abuja a state?

Why should the status quo changed just because some presidential candidates loss the election?

Must rules be bend to satisfy una. Same way you guys argued about a must 25% in Abuja for a candidate to be Nigeria president, like seh Abuja people get 2 heads or they are special than other Nigerians.

The people of FCT dont have two heads. Likewise, the people of other states like Abuja (as per potential Supreme Court judgment) also dont have two heads to be able to elect their Governor while the indigenes of Abuja are deprived of that right.

It is a morality and constitutional matter. It is very simple.

helinues:
Are you a lawyer? Cos sometimes one would just be wondering why you people thinking your wish must be done by all means.

Are you saying those who wrote the Nigeria constitution didn't know what they are doing by not calling Abuja a state?

Why should the status quo changed just because some presidential candidates loss the election?

Must rules be bend to satisfy una. Same way you guys argued about a must 25% in Abuja for a candidate to be Nigeria president, like seh Abuja people get 2 heads or they are special than other Nigerians.

Yes, i am a lawyer licensed to practice in Nigeria.

I wont be saying all these if i were a layman.

I have explained the reason for my conclusion in the write up. Calm down and read it.

Dont wound yourself because of partisanship.

I am a yoruba like you and i dont have anything against Asiwaju.

I am only giving a lecture about the effects of a Supreme Court constitutional precedent.

I am a Nigerian and i bear my allegiance to the constitution, not any fellow tribe man.

Unless we dont want to use that constitution again.

helinues:
Why should I when I can read with my nose. Mtcheew.

Add fire to quench whatever that might be burning.

What exactly is the need of Abuja being a state? Is that going to change the lives of the citizens?

The normal Nigeria states, how developed are they?

Throw away emotions when replying this

Helinues, why are you talking like this?

The judgment of a Supreme Court should be followed to the letter alongside its real life effects. Any other recourse or disobedience will lead to anarchy.

helinues:
What's the need of having a governor when the FCT minister can play same role

The normal recognized states across Nigeria, how developed are they?

If the Supreme Court affirms, it does not disturb the Federal Government from appointing an FCT minister for specific areas in Abuja, like Maitama, Wuse and the 3 arms zone. The Governor's purview and mandate will cover the whole state (Abuja). Please research how washington has a mayor D.C and a Governor for the whole Washington state. Heck, even Lagos had a Governor while it was the Federal Capital. It is really not that difficult unless you want to make a caricature of the Supreme Court's judgment. This is constitutional law my brother.

Judicial precedents, especially Supreme Court constitutional precedents do have real life effects. This is no joke.

I expect the indigenes of Abuja to be preparing with their legal teams.

Unless the law we practice in Nigeria is not the same with other parts of the world, then the indigenes of Abuja are about to have their own brand new state courtesy of the Nigerian Supreme Court.

Broken down for the layman to understand, the judgment of a Supreme Court on a Constitutional provision has the power of law. This is because once a provision of the constitution is interpreted against its textual provision, it means the Supreme Court has nullified that provision and there will be need to amend that section of the Constitution in adherence to the Supreme Court's interpretation. You see, the force of a Supreme Court constitutional precedent is heavy because it changes the public conduct and reliance on the law. There is a difference between a statutory precedent and a constitutional precedent. If the Supreme Court affirms the Court of Appeal (PEPT's) judgement and interpretation of the petitioners' challenge to INEC's violation on section 134 of the Constitution, it means the whole game has changed regarding the status of the FCT.

Some APC supporters might say it is impossible to have a President and a Governor in Abuja. If they do so, then their argument will be flawed because the state of Washington in the US has a Governor (Google Jay Inslee) administering the state through the legitimate means of election by the inhabitants of Washington. It is only D.C (District of Columbia) that has a mayor in the person of Mirrel Bowser (I dont know if i got the name right). So, in essence, any affirmance by the Supreme Court of the PEPT's interpretation of the provisions of section 134 should naturally lead to a flood of litigation by the indigenes of Abuja to force the National Assembly to amend the Constitution in line with the Supreme Court's nullification of Section 134 of the 1999 Constitution (As amended).

I am very happy that the people of Abuja are about to have their state and acquire the right to elect their own Governor, 3 Senators and 10 House of Reps members under the auspices of a Supreme Court constitutional interpretation which nullifies section 134 of the Constitution. Any other interpretation will mean the judgment of the PEPT will be reversed and the election of February 25th, 2023 nullified for noncompliance with the constitution. If you ask me, any judgment by the Supreme Court is a win-win situation for the Nigerian people.

I would however not put it beyond the Supreme Court to affirm the PEPT's judgment and still dismiss any subsequent suit/litigation brought by the indigenes of Abuja for the Court to recognize Abuja as a state in line with its own precedent. I mean, this is Nigeria. If that happens, i will finally accept that Nigeria is a lawless country and that i am in the wrong profession.

Nigerians of all walks of life need to acquaint themselves with the Constitution and know the power that a Supreme Court constitutional precedent has on that one binding document. Any other outcome will mean we dont have a constitution in Nigeria.

Selah.

NB: Anybody that is interested in articles on the meaning and effect of Supreme Court constitutional precedents can indicate, i will forward same. Cheers.

meum:
No worry another election year dem go sell another lie. You go still carry PVC enter market go ask how much? Whether you buy or you no buy you sha don price am😂

Nahhhh.....I dont think i will ever vote in Nigeria again unless my name is on the ballot.

This was the first and the last time i will vote. But if the court orders a re-run, i will go out and vote against Tinubu again even though he is a fellow yoruba man.

meum:
If you truly voted for him be proud of your choice the same way others are of their choices. Forget who the elites from your candidates tribe supported.

It’s like you never understand Nigeria. Elites gravitate towards where their interests will be protected. Dem no send. If the person they supported to eventually get there(elected or selected) refuses to patronize them they’ll start singing & play the victim card. That is 9ja😂 Some have started dropping singles 🎤 😂

Na true jareee. If we knew all these, most new voters would never have bothered to vote.

Mahmoud & Buhari just deceived Nigerians and wasted legislative efforts to enact the Electoral (Amendment) Act, 2022.

Its well.

meum:
😂😂😂 This Obi matter na matter for you. Even when Obi or any word that looks like it is not in the article, you sha must bring him in.

I know say you go call me Obidient but thank God I’m not.

The thing dey pain me ni. I believe he won but he was treated like a kid that he is to Tinubu. He relied solely on Nigerian youths and masses and we delivered for him. But for his fellow igbo elites to have kept quiet, it sends a very bad message. It means Nigerians wasted their votes, money and lives for an unworthy man from an unworthy region.

I sha thank God it will soon be over.

rinzaugustine:
Yoruba did nothing special to stop Abacha . He had already won endorsement from the five political parties and he died just like anybody. You too can die next week. It can happen to anybody

I get madarikan for body ooooo. Na you go just die for nothing next week. You better be careful.

We will rest by this time tomorrow.

Nigerians tried for igbos but igbos cant unite and speak with one voice.

The Court of Appeal will lay all these brouhaha and emotions to rest.

Baba niyen....that is the President. He worked and struggled for this position.

Not like that igbo sissy (Peter Obi) who deceived young Nigerians to vote for him but he cant convince his fellow Igbo elites to support him to regain his "mandate". Everything will be over by this time tomorrow.