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fstranger3:
This is the most important factor and its very difficult to estimate. And, we all know that supposed eye witness account isnt always accurate. People have ulterior motives and coming to accurate estimate from eye witness account would be very very difficult and disingenuous.

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And what does MSTP stand for?

agabaI23:
I have experienced their rural areas and I can tell you it is a lie. I worked in local govt and I can tell you that eku_bear was  generous with his 50 people/ square kilometre  estaimate.

Read my earlier post  where I told my experience.

I would believe you except that

1. The landmass of the North is huge. You cannot possibly demonstrate, by eye alone, that the presence of say, only 10 people rather than 50 in one square kilometer that you can see, means that some kilometers away, in that same virtually "empty" looking rural area there will not be a village of a few hundred.
2. You haven't been to the all the rural areas of all of the supposedly most populated states of the North.
3. Even the places you have been to, ("local govt" are probably not going to be the only places where people happen to live, especially as you were probably closer to civilization (urban, semi-urban, or villages close to urban areas) but not beyond, where some Northerners are living in obscure huts.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-177948.736.html#msg2979674

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-177948.736.html#msg2979775

http://lookingforgoodinlagos..com/2008/11/22nd-good-thing-about-northern-nigeria.html

It's not clear to me, really.

I think the Kano state figures are made up, though. But at the same time I just don't believe population density can be used for any convincing arguments for the whole country.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=604661.msg7744017#msg7744017 date=1297890392]Hrm.

So if we believe the following:
1) Rural population densities are roughly uniform across Nigeria, say within a factor of 2
2) Total Population of Nigeria as of 2006 was correctly reported (150 million or so, iirc)
3) Population of major cities is mostly accurate

Then it shouldn't be hard to come up with a good estimate of the true population figures for each state.

Now, my question for ya'll is, how reasonable are the above assumptions?[/quote]1) Proof? The Northerners are always claiming most people in those populated states up north are not in the metropolises, but in the rural LGs. I think they make up this claim to account for the figures because they assume the figures are correct, but I have no way to say that they are really lying. The other thing to consider here is that you said population densities, but you have to consider the size of states and LGs. The population density of the rural north could actually be low and still give them a higher population for each LG than the rural southeast because the rural southeast is still a much smaller area. So whether you go urban or rural, I think the population densities are still not going to be uniform across Nigeria.
2) I guess. Why not.
3) No. There's no way to know. What's the population of Kano city (not state)? What's the population of Lagos?

cheikh:
kabna

@kabna

Your reply may appear plausible but that's an exercise in sophistry. It has nothing to do with the 'demographics' you're trying to peddle.  Who 'Technically' defined and coined the phrase 'Sub' -  when and for what purpose? The only reason Sudan was seen as non African was because of pseudo-political and linguistic affinity with the Arabs of the Middle East who were very keen to 'Arabise' Sudan by co-opting Sudan into the Arab league hence the wars in the Sudan with the attendant gross and spurious interpretation 'sub' this and 'sub' 'that' which sadly has gained currency even amongst Africans. It's amazing how persistent lies become legitimised and then become 'technically'^ truth . Pls I am not trying to negate your history or the stories that Ghanains have consistently told themselves. I am happy for you if it makes you happy and us as fellow Africans share in your progressive match.

Lol, don't worry about that false claim.

I've already responded to that guy's post twice and put his idea in the dustbins of history with facts, but this anti-spam bot kept getting me, so I'll wait to see if the post reappears. If not I'll post a modified version of my earlier rebuttal in separate parts.