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IAYUSUF:
If ISIS did this, then it proves my claims that they aren't Islamic.
YOU STILL HAVEN'T POSTED A SINGLE VERSE FROM THE QURAN TO PROVE THEIR ACTIONS.
There is nowhere in Quran and Hadeeth or the sayings of pious Scholars that allows rape talk less of gang rape

Read this article to show Islam stance on rape
islamqa.info/en/72338

I get to see. You are here to argue blindly and can't prove a point except by secular argument

What point have you made here order than painting islam white? U denied the Muslims women were raped by India men. This is a lie. All other lies follows....

Isis is just Muhammad of our days. Stop pretending they do not represent Islam. The Qur'an proved it does. How you can equate bible and Quran in any way is beyond me . Islam is evil at it's core. Whereas the Bible condemns sexual immorality, the unholy quran endorses it. The blood of the innocents is telling on Allahs armies. Pisslam is evil..this is fact!!!

IAYUSUF:
You are been ignorant and abusive. Yet you can't bring ONE SINGLE VERSE THAT ACCEPTS RAPE.
JUST SOME EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT AND ISIS FOOLISHNESS. THAT DOESN'T DEFINE ISLAM. YET I POSTED VERSES FROM THE BIBLE THAT CONDONES IT.

I APOLOGIZE TO OTHER CHRISTIAN FOR POSTING THOSE VERSES BUT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT

[s]Read this article that shows Islam stance on rape.
islamqa.info/en/72338[/s]

There are several verses in thé Quran and suras that support Isis and co raping young girls and even married women.Some versés that told how Muhammad got girls and had sex with them. Will be treated to show you that, YES, we know these verses. In Quran 23:5-6.

Allah said a man may ve sex with his wives {up to four, by the way} and his slave girls. I don't understand how this isn't rape and adultery.  

Now in quran 4:24...this particular verse was revealed when the Muslims "captured some women from the area of Awtas who were already married, and they disliked having sexual relations with them because they already had husbands." When they asked Muhammad about it, Allah conveniently revealed to them that although married free women were forbidden, the Muslims could sleep with their captives even if they were married (and their husbands still alive.) Allah encourages raping married women Pathetic!!!

Regarding verse 33:50 is Allah's "red card" for Muhammad regarding women. According to the Tafsir Ibn Kathir, all the women who Muhammad gave "their due." In regards to Safiya (the Banu Nadir Jewess and widow of the tortured and executed Kinana), her manumission was considered her dowry. He also purchased a slave from another man and married her...considering the release from her previous contract as her dowry. Allah also told that "the slave-girls whom you took from the war booty are also permitted to {Muhammad}

The Muslim god also made it permissible for Muhammad to marry relatives:

And, to add sugar to the coffee, if any believing woman offered herself in marriage to Mohammad, (sbuh) it was permissable for him to marry her without giving any dowry. You wasting your time in posting links. I don't click Islam links. Write here if you want a concrat talk.

mubarakopeyemi:
my brother. stop wasting your precious time trying to speak sense into that ignoramus.
She's not intellectually sound for a concise debate. All she does is rant and shout. Argue blindly without facts and just beat around like a headless chicken.

Its better you ignore her

Who raped those Muslim WOMEN?

IAYUSUF:
Firstly, my claims is what the majority of Muslim Scholars accept.
And the Prophet said don't go into extremism in religion and that is what they do

Scholars ni, Islam is fabricated in falsehood. You so-called scholars can change or twist Muhammad's aim. He even displayed it. And Allah's armies are the true follower not those false teaching scholars of yours. The true character of Muhammad is displayed in Isis, Boko and others. You can't deceive all.

neocortex:
God said "thou shall not kill"(though his prophets are exempted),
you rub that on people's face, "he our god is just".

But when god said a rapist must marry his victim, you claim
it is man's fault.

Why cherry-pick the words of yahweh ?
Do you know better than him ?

Stop doing gra gra.. calm down and listen to him. He has been making alot of sense but you resisting by twiating scriptures.The father of the victim has the right to refused the marriage. But he must collect the price of breaking his daughter's virgin. You must know that certain laws in the OT are Mosaic laws. The children of Israel were very hard hearted. Moses had to create certain laws for daily guidance etc. See what Jesus told the Pharisees when they were asking him if they still have the right to divorce and remarry because moses allowed them to do so. Jesus replied them.


Matthew 19:8 ►Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.

God never intended man to marry plenty wives no divorce his wife. The fact that many prophets in the bible married more than one wife was not an order from God. It doeant means God was pleased with them doing such. This is what you should understand.

Rilwon:
Let me come and rape you then
Are you even a virgin?

mumu

You wouldnt want to do such because the law will obliged you to marry me. Since you wouldn't want to marry someone you dont love and you have no right to break the law, you will keep your body in order not to fall victim of the law. You see. By the way, you dont have to insult me..

neocortex:
How is that a justice ?
so if a lady refuses a mans advances,
all he need to do is rape her and she is all his.
Hmmn, what a justice from the mighty yahweh.

According to Mosaic Law, “If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives” (Deuteronomy 22:28–29). Its normal if this sounds injustice to u. First, the Mosaic Law is hardly about letting a rapist off easy. The consequence for raping a woman engaged to be married was stoning (Deuteronomy 22:25). If the woman was not engaged, the rapist was spared for the sake of the woman’s security. Having lost her virginity, she would have been deemed undesirable for marriage—and in the culture of the day, a woman without a father or husband to provide for her would be subject to a life of abject poverty, destitution, and social ostracism. As such, the rapist was compelled to provide for the rape victim for as long as he lived. Thus, far from injustice, the law was a cultural means of protection and provision.
Furthermore, there was precedent under the Mosaic Law for the rapped woman not to marry the raper if her father determined that she could be provided for in a more suitable manner ( Exodus 22:16-17 :
16 And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.
17 If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.
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Thus, the law was not designed to force the rape victim into an unbearable marriage, but to secure her future and that of her children. Many of you Nigerian men will be the first to say you dont want to marry such a woman..even a woman with a child but unmarried, you reject them. Majority looking for tear robber. This law is sure to protect the victim.

Demmzy15:
Who would rape a woman in the first place?! What can you say about this https://www.nairaland.com/2767725/19-yr-old-pastor-impregnates-female-church

Check this thread for help since you have been hiding to tell us who raped the muslims women.

https://www.nairaland.com/2769278/islamic-statistics-violence-rape-terror#40505255

Freedom go to hell yet they cant just go back to thier sharia law countries where they can enjiy true freedom ..

I have good news for you muslims who claim Islam will rule the world. France have closed down first mosques that preach hate. More are on the way..either islam modify thier teachings or all mosque will be closed..

L’État ferme les premières mosquées en France


http://www.islametinfo.fr/2015/11/26/letat-ferme-les-premieres-mosquees-en-france/

truthman2012:
Okay na !

They are now denying Allah's army boko and isis. These groups and others are helping islam to reduce the world population in order to achieve thier aim {ISLAM WILL RULE THE WORLD }. now that the world is against Islam. Moderate muslims are rejecting allahs soldiers. .. too late. Too radical mosque ban today by the French minister of internal affairs. He said more will be ban and demolished.

Now you dont want to talk?

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Yazidi girls raped five times a day by sadistic ISIS fighters who burned them with cigarettes before letting six more men abuse them at once: Sex slaves reveal the hell they endured before escaping to UK[/size]


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3165476/Yazidi-women-kidnapped-ISIS-forced-marry-fighters-tell-horrors-endured-escaping-terror-group-including-raped-five-times-day-sold-sex-slaves.html

Allah’s armies are rapists yet they pray 5 times par day...

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Isis leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi repeatedly raped US hostage Kayla Mueller and turned Yazidi girls into personal sex slaves
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-exposed-as-serial-rapist-of-hostages-who-made-women-his-personal-10456237.html

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ISIS terrorists told 'women will become Muslim if 10 fighters rape her'[/size]

10:50, 9 OCT 2015 UPDATED 13:08, 9 OCT 2015 BY ANTHONY BOND
One 22-year-old victim of the terror group says she was raped by one ISIS fighter before he passed her onto 11 of his friends
ISIS militants are raping women in the belief it will make them Muslim, it has been claimed
ISIS terrorists are raping women in the sickening belief that it will make them Muslim, terrified victims have said.

Reports from Iraq say the terror group is using religion to justify horrific rape, murder and slavery for women in the country.

Witnesses say the terror group is attacking villages, killing the men and taking away women to abuse.

One 22-year-old victim was sold into slavery when ISIS took over her village in Sinjar.

Speaking to CNN, she tells how a terrorist picked her out and raped her before passing her onto 11 of his friends who also raped her.
He showed her a letter from his superiors which said that a woman will become a Muslim if ten ISIS men rape her.

The woman, who has remained anonymous, said about her attacker: "He showed me a letter and said, 'This shows any captured women will become Muslim if 10 ISIS fighters rape her.'
"There was a flag of ISIS and a picture of Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi."


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-terrorists-told-women-become-6602066

This is a recent news showing Allah's armies are still in actions.

Demmzy15:
Na wa for that pastor o! Annunaki hope you're hearing o!

This man never tires of women. He is the root of muslims men raping women today.

BETATRON:
my brother helep me ask her oh

Reminds me of this church in my area,,all the girls started attending the church cause the new pastor is handsome,,
Stark runs girls start they go church..the pastor too impregnant some of them come run finally...jesus is lord

I see how this has suddenly intrest you.. The picture has been in this thred and i ve been asking who raped them. You never said a word...who cares if the girls run after the handsome pastor? Is this ur own definition of rape? SMH for your ignorance. .

Demmzy15:
Who would rape a woman in the first place?! What can you say about this https://www.nairaland.com/2767725/19-yr-old-pastor-impregnates-female-church

Take a look at the picture again. These women called for a law from thier book (quran) to be carried out to punish the rapists. If a rapist is not under the sharia law. They wouldnt come out to demostrate. They know the devil is within. The muslim men have been raping them. Enough is enough. So they all cried out. See the women...i will keep hunting you all with this picture until you say the bitter truth

Demmzy15:
Who would rape a woman in the first place?! What can you say about this https://www.nairaland.com/2767725/19-yr-old-pastor-impregnates-female-church

Umm, i know you can only point at this self claimed pastor in ur comments. I mean you (muslims ). Shame shame shame!! Than God This man cant provide a verse to support his acts. But muslims can qoute the quran to support thier prophet and his companions were once rapists so they followed thier footsteps. If you are to use this man to tag Christianity even if no bible verse supports his atrocities. By doing this you are then coursing more harm to islam because there are so many rape history from islamic states and Allah's armies are proud rapists. Even the socalled sharia law State, Saudi has homo history. Or are you not aware of the 2010 homosexuality event between Saud Abdulaziz Bin Nasir Al Saud, the grandson of the king of Saudi Arabia, who murdered Bandar Abdulaziz his servant in a luxury London hotel after subjecting him to weeks of physical and sexual abuse? take a look at the pictures it will refresh ur memories. ..

IAYUSUF:
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Yar, this people kill in the name of Allah but doesn't make their claims valid. The prophet talks about them as I have shown in previous comments.
Anyway the very Quran they hold says
“And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his punishment is Hell; he shall abide in it, and Allah will send His wrath on him and curse him and prepare for him a painful chastisement.” (Surah an-Nisā’ 4:93)

It pains me that people (non-Muslims are more happy to show that this people are the "real Muslims" than they are to find the truth. The prophet talks on accusing Muslims of disbelieve which they do frequently.
"Anyone who claims that his fellow Muslim is a disbeliever or calls him an enemy of Allaah The Almighty while he is not, then this accusation"

Even a Muslim that does something of disbelieve can't be called disbelievers by me talk less of killing him which they do and did recently with shi'ite.

And the prophet said something clearly
Saheeh al-Bukhaari (3166) from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr (may Allaah be pleased with him) who narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever killed a mu’aahid (non-Muslims in Islamic nation) will not smell the fragrance of Paradise, although its fragrance may be detected from a distance of forty years’ travel.” Imam al-Bukhaari included this report in a chapter in his Saheeh entitled “Chapter: the sin of one who kills a mu’aahid unlawfully.”[/s]

So what makes you think your claims are valide and not thiers?

sasquareT:
Plappville how are u fairing? Just ignore Mubarak less you become like him
Continue to voice your mind and condemn every evil perpetrated by this islamic demon I will also be around to condemn there act.Islam will always receive the bruises of any act committed against the vulnerable and innocent one unless the terrorist drop their coran.
Finally feel free to post what ever come to your mind.

Thanks bro..God bless.

IAYUSUF:
I am considered a disbeliever to them. They are not bold enough to debate the Muslim Scholars. The letter sent to ISIS by Muslim Scholars last 2 years hasn't been answered. They are the real cowards. They quote out of context. Especially BOKOHARAM.

You aren't fair, the same people ready to kill Muslims that are against them. You are asking me to go to them.
They should agree to debate online or anything. Through letter but they dont

These people kill by calling thier God. And you think you can convince others they do not call the god of the Qur'an? They always have the Qur'an in thier hands..there is something the terrorists know about the Qur'an that you do not know. It can also be the other way round.

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Oh yes! Islam is peaceful, cant you all see that? The proof is all over the world. THE Northarn part of Nigeria is enjoying this peace, France 130 dead people have enjoyed this peace, Tunisia government and tourists also enjoyed it, the Malians are also enjoying the peace, should i even talk about the muslim/islamic states. Oh yes they are all enjoying it...
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Islam cannot prove how peaceful it is..Muslims need to convince us by saying it. Quality product need no advertisement..

mubarakopeyemi:

This mumu is so foolish dammmm! has ego problems. Is supercilious. Feels smarts and better. Sounds condescending.
You're just still that ignoramus

Still acerebral till date...

IAYUSUF:
The pictures shows group of Indian protesting against rape in their country which has one of the highest rape rate. Capturing some Muslim that are part of the just cause doesn't make the rape part of Islam

All muslims lie to defend islam evil. See India woman in the traditional attire and compare with the rapped women.

mubarakopeyemi:

Ignoramus you trynna have a say
OK. we've heard you. Now face front.

And ye shall know the truth and it shall set you free.

IAYUSUF:
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The prophet (saw) spoke of this people.
"There shall emerge a people in the end of time, YOUNG PEOPLE , DIM-WITTED, recounting the best words of creation, reading the Quran, but their faith does not pass their throats. They shall pass out of the religion just as an arrow passes out of the prey. So wherever you meet them, kill them for truly in killing them is a great reward with Allah on the day of judgement." (It is important to note that these narrations are not an endorsement for vigilante action, as the assumption is that fighting them is conducted under proper authority.)

There are many other hadeeth that talk about them both all points to modern day extremists

The hadeeth which condemns extremism was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Those who go to extremes are doomed.” He said it three times.
Narrated by Muslim (2670).[/s]

Islam supports kids carrying gun. They have the quran and the guns in thier hands. Showing us the Quran supports it.

IAYUSUF:
The pictures shows group of Indian protesting against rape in their country which has one of the highest rape rate. Capturing some Muslim that are part of the just cause doesn't make the rape part of Islam
RAPE IS FROWNED AT BY ISLAM
Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
The scholars are unanimously agreed that the rapist is to be subjected to the hadd punishment if there is clear evidence against him that he deserves the hadd punishment, or if he admits to that. Otherwise, he is to be punished (i.e., if there is no proof that the hadd punishment for zina may be carried out against him because he does not confess, and there are not four witnesses, then the judge may punish him and stipulate a punishment that will deter him and others like him). There is no punishment for the woman if it is true that he forced her and overpowered her, which may be proven by her screaming and shouting for help. End quote.
Al-Istidhkaar , 7/146

No the hajib is a muslim headscarf not Indians. These women are Muslims. We know how a traditional India woman dress. You cannot deny it. You are trying to place it on India. Are you saying Muslims never rapped? Even in the islamic books? Those women were certainly raped by men of thier religion.

IAYUSUF:
Lol Muslims don't call others Devils in the West and if they do it is wrong to do that.
The uprising in Syria and iraq causes refugees who runs to the west or to Saudi Arabia, UAE, and other Arab countries. Saying they don't pray is up to them. For those weren't Muslims at heart before.
Again saying trash, the true Muslims are the not up to 10% of the total population. Lol.
There is no one single known scholar of Islam whether from Saudi Arabia or Syria or others that accept the deed of ISIS or boko haram.
In short there is a consensus to fight them if we can.
I advise you to read the book "Refuting ISIS" By Sheikh Muhammad al Yaqoubi. If you want truth. If otherwise it between you and the Creator.

The pictures shows group of Indian protesting against rape in their country which has one of the highest rape rate. Capturing some Muslim that are part of the just cause doesn't make the rape part of Islam

RAPE IS FROWNED AT BY ISLAM

Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
The scholars are unanimously agreed that the rapist is to be subjected to the hadd punishment if there is clear evidence against him that he deserves the hadd punishment, or if he admits to that. Otherwise, he is to be punished (i.e., if there is no proof that the hadd punishment for zina may be carried out against him because he does not confess, and there are not four witnesses, then the judge may punish him and stipulate a punishment that will deter him and others like him). There is no punishment for the woman if it is true that he forced her and overpowered her, which may be proven by her screaming and shouting for help. End quote.
Al-Istidhkaar , 7/146

They do. They say the West eat pork meat so they are devils. The main reason isisi bomb Paris was because they believed they are saints and France people are devilish because in france Homosexuality is legal. The concert they attacked, the artist they killed were homo groups. We are aware :-Xthe Saudi Arabians do homosexuality in secret. Even in the northern Nigeria, those alahajis do homo at Night. In the day they are saints. Please post me the site that shiws Saudi took some Syrians refugees?

IAYUSUF:
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This is what I am saying this people have no religion. The other day in a video Shekau accused Saudi Arabia as a whole as disbelievers same with the ISIS ideology.

Killing a Muslim unlawfully is a serious matter and a grave crime. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein; and the Wrath and the Curse of Allaah are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him”
[al-Nisa’ 4:93]
al-Bukhaari (6355) narrated from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The believer will continue to be encompassed by the mercy of Allaah so long as he does not shed blood that it is forbidden to shed.[/s]”

So you keep saying yet they use the killing strategy to prove they are the true Muslims. Be bold enough, call boko haram, travel to the north and have a contrat talk with them by refuting thier claim. Because their acts is based on the Quran.

Demmzy15:
Which women goat?!

It doesnt cost me anything to repost it over and over again. It appears the muslims goats raped them?