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[quote author=lana_Vello]hmmn permit my ignorance buh why is she still called virgin mary? is she still believed to be one....pls elucidate....preferably on the other thread(xtian chatbox)[/quote]What's your denomination? Are you even Christian?

The explanations are long so I will post the link


http://es.catholic.net/sacerdotes/430/996/articulo.php?id=19021
^ ponder on this .

Also if you are a heretic, you must know that your forefathers(Luther and Calvin believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary)

http://youngevangelicalandcatholic..com/2011/11/protestant-defense-of-marys-perpetual.html?m=1

^^ here is the illustration, and just like them I believe it is rude and quite nasty to spend your time looking for whether Mary remained a virgin or not.

We can from what I posted

http://www.ourladyweb.com/mary-defended.html

^ ponder on this too

Heaven is tied in with the Old Testament concept of the royal household. Because the King had many wives it was impossible for one to be Queen. Therefore the King’s mother served in the role. The Queen Mother sat on a throne at the King’s right hand and helped rule the kingdom. Access to the King would often be through the Queen Mother and she would ask favors from the King for those who asked her. You can see an example of this in I Kings 2: 17-25 where Solomon is on the throne next to his mother Bathsheba. Solomon is David’s son so, this establishes the analogy of the Queen Mother in the Kingdom of David. We know that Jesus is the Son of David and that he inherits the throne of his father David. His role as such is announced by the angel Gabriel from God Most High. So in Luke chapter one:

You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.

So the “Kingdom of God” or “Kingdom of Heaven” which Jesus talks about all the time is also the Kingdom of his father David. Jesus is the King who’s kingdom will never end, and who is his mother? Mary. If he is the King of the Kingdom of David–the Kingdom of God–also called the Kingdom of Heaven, then she is the Queen Mother of the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of David, the Kingdom of Heaven, and thus the Queen of Heaven–furthermore, if her son the King’s kingdom will never end we must conclude that her reign as Queen Mother at his right hand will also never end. It is an eternal kingdom. It’s confirmed in Revelation 12 where “a great sign is given” — we see the woman who is the mother of the child who will rule the whole earth with a rod of iron. She is crowned with stars and with the moon under her feet.

A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant…She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”

Who else could this be–clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head–than the Queen of Heaven? That she is the Virgin Mary is clear as she gives birth to the male child who is the King of Kings. Another take on this here. So Catholics venerate Mary as the Queen of Heaven. It’s there in the Bible…if you have eyes to see.


For ishi

Sal C: Hello Mr Aladin, I wanted to say something about this post last night but I was a bit tired then.
Let me chip in something here. I find something quite contradictory about the part I quoted.

How can a person say he examined his life from childhood and couldn't find any sin yet right after that he said Christ paid for his sins.

If he truly had no sin, why would Chris need to pay for his sins?
1john 1v8 if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
Apostle john who wrote the above knew very well that Christ died for the sake of our sin, yet he clearly made us understand we are sinners. If you read true that whole chapter, you will realize we need to confess those sin in order to be forgiven.

We cannot live a laissez-faire life because Christ died for our sins instead we have to live according to his ordinances. This still did not in any way mean we are immune to sin rather the spirit of God in us gives us the grace not to live in sin.

We don't live in sin but we occasionally fall into sin, therefore when we realize we have fallen not deliberately into sin, we go to God in prayers, and when we do, the blood of Christ which speaks for mercy on our behalf will still sanitize us and make us holy again.

Well said, may God forgive MrAladdin's friend

Good morning brethren

Heaven is tied in with the Old Testament concept of the royal household. Because the King had many wives it was impossible for one to be Queen. Therefore the King’s mother served in the role. The Queen Mother sat on a throne at the King’s right hand and helped rule the kingdom. Access to the King would often be through the Queen Mother and she would ask favors from the King for those who asked her. You can see an example of this in I Kings 2: 17-25 where Solomon is on the throne next to his mother Bathsheba. Solomon is David’s son so, this establishes the analogy of the Queen Mother in the Kingdom of David. We know that Jesus is the Son of David and that he inherits the throne of his father David. His role as such is announced by the angel Gabriel from God Most High. So in Luke chapter one:

You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.

So the “Kingdom of God” or “Kingdom of Heaven” which Jesus talks about all the time is also the Kingdom of his father David. Jesus is the King who’s kingdom will never end, and who is his mother? Mary. If he is the King of the Kingdom of David–the Kingdom of God–also called the Kingdom of Heaven, then she is the Queen Mother of the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of David, the Kingdom of Heaven, and thus the Queen of Heaven–furthermore, if her son the King’s kingdom will never end we must conclude that her reign as Queen Mother at his right hand will also never end. It is an eternal kingdom. It’s confirmed in Revelation 12 where “a great sign is given” — we see the woman who is the mother of the child who will rule the whole earth with a rod of iron. She is crowned with stars and with the moon under her feet.

A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant…She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”

Who else could this be–clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head–than the Queen of Heaven? That she is the Virgin Mary is clear as she gives birth to the male child who is the King of Kings. Another take on this here. So Catholics venerate Mary as the Queen of Heaven. It’s there in the Bible…if you have eyes to see.

Deep

woky: pope so u hav a son

as a pope yes na ....but it is more to Piss off that uktus .

cypher cypher: This Thread Should At least appear on frontpage forr Others to see the love, peace and harmony that exist among catholics.
What A Peaceful Union!

good morning bro, I don't think this thread should go on the FP , I don't want our house to b invaded with horde of heretics and non catholics posting nasty comments. At least here we are safe from the the daily Catholic bashing threads. And others trash .hope u understand

[quote author=Mr. Aladin]Thanks Pope....
No penance?[/quote]na first offence

Sal C: Hmmm my head is crowded for now. Maybe later.

no wahala

Ubenedictus: Without searching d net,
define, immaculate conception.
2. How would you support d dogma from scripture and tradition.

@ sal C

woky: welldone bro

thank you my brother. Now she won't b able to say we celebrate our mum's birthday twice in a year, she has been enlightened , It's up to her now to swallow her pride and do the needful

Woky got married with a tortoise

woky: somtimes she hide post without reading

Abeg biko let's go in our thread

Lie

Lmao ...

What is born again?

I see u are shying away from the second question, and you barely answered the first one , you don't want to shoot yourself in the foot. I can understand that

try69: Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy; hail, our life, our sweetness and our hope. To you we cry, poor banished children of Eve, to you we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn then, O most gracious advocate, your eyes of mercy towards us, and after this our exile, show us the blessed fruit of your womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary

Amen

Today the Church celebrates the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception, the solemn dogma defined by Blessed Pope Pius IX in 1854. As Our Lady this is a holy day of obligation.

Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, "full of grace" through God, was redeemed from the moment of her conception. That is what the dogma of the Immaculate Conception confesses, as Blessed Pope Pius IX proclaimed on December 8, 1854: "The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Saviour of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin."

^^ now you know this is a special holy day and it is very different from the birthday of our mother, queen of heaven .
You are hereby encouraged to do the needful

Today the Church celebrates the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception, the solemn dogma defined by Blessed Pope Pius IX in 1854. As Our Lady Immaculately Conceived is the patroness of the United States of America, this is a holy day of obligation in the United States.

Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, "full of grace" through God, was redeemed from the moment of her conception. That is what the dogma of the Immaculate Conception confesses, as Blessed Pope Pius IX proclaimed on December 8, 1854: "The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Saviour of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin."

Is Immaculate Conception a Holy Day of Obligation?

Question: Is Immaculate Conception a Holy Day of Obligation?

In the United States and other countries, the bishops have received permission from the Vatican to abrogate (temporarily waive) the requirement for Catholics to attend Mass on certain Holy Day of Obligation, when those Holy Days fall on either Saturday or Monday. Because of this, some Catholics have become confused about whether certain Holy Days are, in fact, Holy Days of Obligation. The Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception is one such holy day.

Answer: The Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception, , is a Holy Day of Obligation. Because this feast honoring Mary, the Mother of God, celebrates one of the most important events in salvation history, it is never abrogated, even when December 8 falls on a Saturday or a Monday.

However, if December 8 falls on a Sunday (as in, for instance, 2013), the celebration of the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception is transferred to Monday, December 9, because Sundays in Advent take precedence over any other feast. When the celebration is transferred, rather than naturally falling on a Monday, the obligation to attend Mass does not transfer with it.



http://catholicism.about.com/od/holydaysandholidays/f/Imm_Con_Holy.htm

woky: dis post ^^ wil soon be hidden

u knw say truth no sweet atall

there's is no way you can hide something without reading it first.

Dude stop quoting me okay ?

bring that thread on the front page, this is not a favor it is our right on this forum, religious holiday are celebrated on the front page

HumbledbYGrace: Request rejected.

why ?

I stand to be corrected, we Catholics don't come here to force you to adopt our teachings or justify our doctrines okay? So whether we celebrate the birthday of Mary twice in a year or not how does it concern you ? How and why does it pain you ? As long as it is in the teachings/doctrines of the holy mother church , I don't get what on earth makes you think you have the right to dismiss one of our holiday ? Am I missing smething? Your job as a mod is to forward our request to your bosses or execute it.

Furthermore are you trying to tell us what Catholic must celebrate and how they should honor Mary? The conception of Mary(honour b upon her) is an important date of our religious calendar , and the Catholics of this forum have the right to b informed about it, ignorance is not a disease but refusing to learn is one . You first started behaving as Mrs knowitall , calling the inception birthday tho . My dear when you don't know please ask .

woky: it should be: go and peep no more

true

POPE II: what do you mean? today is conception day ,and it doesn't happen twice in a year so I don't know what you are talking about. Elaborate please

I guess you missed this

mumumugu: How many mary birthday are celebrated in a year

conception is different from birthday care to read my request and explanations before jumping on conclusions

woky: is that ^^ suppose to the answer

apparently

[quote author=Mr. Aladin]Am Doing Great
Forgive Me sir[/quote]good
You are forgiven-go and peep no more

^ beautiful, makes sense sha