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Interesting topics, girls should come answer, they are always complaining about it

So you mean you don't enjoy the sex or what? Abeg keep doing your things .

Pff Nl is boriiiiiiiing


Hello everyone and a big amen to your prayers. Spread the message of our God

Nov 08

How many Catholics open threads about the business ventures you call churches? Jeez

Logicboy03: *unfollowing*


The end times for catholic church on NL religion section has just begun

hello sir, my Catholic brother, when do you come back home? Why did u leave the religion of your forefathers?

Photoshop I hail

Stop feeling important and taking yourself for something or someone you are not, Catholic don't give a rat azz about your sorry being. 2B members no b beans, we don't advertise or look for members esp your type

woky: lets wait for Striktlymi

okay.
I understand him but this thread wasn't necessary

woky: @Emma and Pope

seems you guys dont undstnd wat the op is trying to say

I think I do but you can always explain.

When you go into a Catholic Church and you see a big, splendid statue of Mary with flowers in front of it, a bank of candles lit before it and an old woman kneeling down, fervently praying her rosary it would seem to be what it looks like: the woman is worshipping a statue of Mary. But if you ask the old woman if she is worshipping Mary she’d say, “Whataryatalkinabout?, I’m praying the rosary.” So what is going on? First we have to define “worship”. From time immemorial worship was identified with a particular action: the action of sacrifice. Pagans worshipped their gods by making sacrifices to them. The Jews worshipped by making sacrifice to Jahweh. The reason we moderns get confused about worship is that we’ve forgotten the principle of sacrifice so we don’t really know what worship is all about. This is understandable from Protestants because they got worried about the sacrifice thing 500 years ago and threw it out. What is most depressing is that most Catholics also don’t understand the “sacrifice is worship” idea either. They’ve been told the Mass is all about “the family of God gathering around the table of fellowship to increase their mutual self esteem and discuss peace and justice issues.” Because of this nonsense the majority of American Catholics don’t have a clue what the sacrifice business is all about, and therefore they don’t know what worship is supposed to be about either. Like the neo-Prots that they are they have come to think that worship is all about hearing a sermon, singing some songs and praying. Now we’re getting down to the reason why Protestants think Catholics worship Mary. They think worship and prayer are the same thing. Therefore, if you are praying to Mary you must be worshipping Mary. Well, the Catholic faith has been around for a long time, and believe it or not, these questions have been asked before, and the Catholics have the answer. It goes like this: there are three categories of respect due in the realm of worship. They go by specific names: Latria, Dulia and Hyperdulia. Latria is worship. It is the worship that is due only to God. This worship consists of offering God our lives, our souls, our minds and our bodies as a living sacrifice (Romans. 12. 1-2) We do this pre-eminently through the sacrifice of the Mass. Dulia is not worship. It is honor. We honor anyone who is eminent and accomplished. We honor them for their brains, their discipline, their wit, their achievement. We honor our parents and grandparents because we owe them that. We honor our loved ones. Part of this honor is that we ask them for things. We come to them with our needs. We look up to them. We respect them. They are our role models and mentors. We have a relationship to them of subservient honor. They are awesome to us. Dulia is also what we give to the saints and angels. We give them the honor that is due to them. As part of this we have a relationship with them. We ask them for things. This is called “praying to the saints.” Hyperdulia is the honor we give to the Virgin Mary. We give her the highest honor because she is unique amongst all God’s creation. She is higher than the cherubim and seraphim. She is the only created being who was honored by God so greatly that his son took his flesh from her. She has totally unique place of honor in heaven and therefore also amongst all of God’s people on earth. The honor we give her, therefore, and the dulia we give her is higher than any other being. But it is not latria. We’re clear about that. We do not worship Mary. The sign of this is that we do not make sacrifice to her. You don’t find any Catholic priest offering a Mass to Mary. No. The sacrifice of the Mass is offered to God the Almighty Father. This also should be understood clearly: the dulia and hyperdulia which we give to Mary and the saints is ultimately honor given to God. We honor the saints (including the Blessed Mother) not for who they are, but for who God made them to be. We honor in them the completed work of grace. We honor in them their faithful obedience, which itself is a gift from God. The Blessed Virgin says, “the Almighty has done great things for me!” We honor Mary and the saints because we are struck with delight and awe at the wonderful things God has done for them. As the moon reflects the sun, so the Virgin and saints reflect the light of Christ. Without him they are nothing. With him they have become divinized–sons and daughters of the Almighty Father. Finally, we insist that it is proper devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary which corrects all the other errors. Do you think it is a co incidence that as neo-Protestantism has grown in the Catholic Church that Marian devotion has been marginalized, limited sometimes even banned or prohibited? When Marian devotion plays its proper part in the life of the Church we also start to realize what real worship is, and how important the sacrifice of the Mass is to everything else. This is why, despite misunderstandings we come back time and again to thank God for Mary and to honor her as the greatest of all created beings.

emma bowin: Op, you are clearly on your own here as this is not the positon of other catholics worldwide. I think you should see a Rev. Father to explain the teachings of the church to you with regards to mary.We have said it times without number,we do not worship Mary and I advisyou not to. We only honour her being the Mother of our Lord and saviour.

This is exactly what I did not want, striklymi you should have known better .

@ op I share you view but I didn't want to go against the rule: we don't worship Mary. I think it Better to stay with that line because our heretic brothers don't know that there are three different ways to worship .
Yes Catholic worship Mary but not the way you think

Valon4ego: did I hear you say that Catholics face persecution for keeping to their doctrines? Stop deluding yourself dude.

check the history of the Catholic church, open your eyes to what's happening around you.

Catholics are the ones doing the persecuting to the other Christians that don't conform to their dogma

stop peddling lies, first of voice Catholics never persecuted anyone they were defending Christendom against muslims
As for heretics stop acting like innocents and go learn how your leaders were burning catholics in England ans others protestants dominated countries, they were confiscating our churches(can't build anything) .

Catholics stood against Romans (who fed us to pigs and lions) and against Muslims if it wasn't for us you wouldn't b able to call yourself a Christian

TechWalker007: Bros, there's no reason to fear. We ar no longer in 1966. A coup will end "Nigeria" and the so called Oil revenue. Let them try it. It will be the quickest way to America's prediction of disintegration.

I'm not even that much afraid of a coup , I'm more worried about sectarian violence, ethnic violence, religion violence these power hungry politicians want to unleash on us . There's no doubt that 2015 will b bloody

yunafa: YES O!!!! TELL HIM THE TRUTH BABA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tell your baba whatever to bring back our money he embezzled when he was in power, tell him to stop sleeping around and with his relatives, tell him back in the day he was begging for a third term, tell him only cowards have war wounds on their butt . Tell him Nigerians are mature enough to choose and don't need his advices. Ask him which kind of military pensions built all the assets he owns now .

I hope a coup is not in the making, na wa ooo can you free the man ? Was your presidency perfect? Where is the money of our power that you embezzled? Talk about pot calling kettle black . Jona has been elected, let the people decide if they want to continue with him or not .2015 is not far .
I reject your letter in Jesus name , a morally bankrupt like you can not open his mouth to criticize . Joke of the century

Sal C: If only people realize it is the worshiper who can tell the state of his mind and whom he worship, they will stop forcing others to accept what they are not doing.

It will be silly for me not to accept that I worship a particular deity if truly I worship it.

Christ is well aware of this when he said "if you deny me in public, I will deny you before my father in heaven"

Why do people refuse to deny Christ even at the pain of death?
simply because that denial alone will do away with every worship they have rendered onto him.

I even find it difficult to understand why catholic answer those who say we "worship" Mary .

If I tell you I don't "worship" Mary and you insist, that's your headache not mine.

If I "worship" her and take her to be my God, I will proudly admit that.

EOD

Who is that slowpoke who dare compare fagotry with racism? Can u hide your Africaness ? Can you hide your blackness? Did you ever choose to b black or African? Olodo

A true Christian warrior, proud of what you did bro, don't mind your punishment on earth, God will reward you for this good work

There are no Atheist/atheism dominated countries

vickyO:
How am i acting like a snake?

can you b straightforward and answer that simple question? It is a yes or no type of question . Are Catholics Christians?

I meant a snake with 2 heads , you are trying to deceive people and talk with both sides of your mouth

texanomaly: LB is Logicboy.

Ok. Let's the proof please. Thanks.

how did he sound like?

I don't think this is the right thread tho , what are you an atheist? A heretic?

texanomaly: Ok. At the risk of sounding like LB, do you have proof of this? Can you back up this claim?

who is LB and how did he sound like?

Yes I do and I can

vickyO: ..

stop acting like a snake and answer my question, are Catholic Christians? A Catholic is a Catholic there is no such thing as born again.

vickyO: I was here Pope........
and i agree with Josh....

so are Catholics Christians?

And yes it is

vickyO: It is not a negetive adjective.
Just let it go. I meant no harm.

so you insult people and ask them to let it go ? That means you don't regret what you did/said

Cocky is not an insult per see but it is a negative adjective .

I said common sense. And no need to point fingers you seconded it that means u think the same

vickyO: As i said, i believe in fair play, if someone doesn't insult me, i won't reciprocate.

AMFM was the one who indirectly referred to you as a pig and i brought it to your notice.
You started the insult section by indirectly telling me i lacked common sense.

Woky called me ignorant and stupid so i had to reply him.

So you see, i follow my words.
Emotive means causing emotion or being emotional
I am not^^^^^
I only wanted peace to reign, and i didn't want another episode of what happened on Acidiosis' thread.

You are the one who talks and acts before thinking.
NL is my witness.

P.S> Cocky is not an insult.

Chemiefatie: Little or no cultism at all.

thank u

Does cultism exist in northern universities?

daroz: An atheist is one who does not believe in god/gods regardless of his reasons.

I know is it a religion or a movement?