Standing5:
Before Dangote, there was Warri, PH and Kaduna own. Go to refinery area Warri and investigate properly. Go to PH too and ask. Go to Kaduna and ask well. The land on which the refinery in Lekki is situated is bigger than Ikeja. It is not a road side refinery. Above all, people will live and work almost around the clock inside the refinery. Stop being half smart.

Because refineries were built in those areas does not mean people around dont suffer health problems.

Workers will live near the refineries and most times, the companies provide those facilities plus proper health care, but if you are an ordinary citizen dont ever try to buy any land around any industrial facilities, it is waste of time, only naive people will buy but people that care about their health will avoid death in dusguise when they see one package in christmas gifts.

Kccheechy:
Oga, what they are doing there is refining the oil not drilling oil... There would not be problem of oil spillage because I'm surprised you are talking about water pollution at the beach

No problem of oil spillage? Will the oil be teleported into the refinery?

sulaak:


Not just air pollution but excessive heavy duty traffic in Lekki, similar to the chaos in Apapa. The town planner that located the Lekki FTZ and Dangote refinery without a railway line needs his head examined.

For multiple reasons. There is likely going to be sub terrain supply pipelines to distribute to terminals like Apapa, access to rail way terminals and directly to the Atlantic Ocean to supply outside countries.

BlueSparks:




God bless you


They say it's far away. Does Physics not teach that heat is carried and distributed by wind?

Diffusion.

Most people are looking at it economically, like dangite. Environmentally, it's not the best. And in a country like Nigeria with poor regulatory standards? It's like people don't know these substances are carcinogenic. Maybe when they begin to see the results they will join the cries of the ND. For now their ignorance is bliss.

I really don't get your point @OP all the Nigerian refineries are located with almost same or lesser proximity to their respective cities. (PH, Warri, Kaduna). On the issue of flaring, refineries don't really flare gas as an associated gas because they don't drill (drilling comes with associated and unwanted methane gas), refineries will only flare as relief mechanisms (pressure vessel controls). With the current waste heat capture technology, they can reutilize heat for firing turbines and furnaces. Although no technology takes away 100% health hazards but it won't be as severe as what you're opining.

There is a difference between crude exploration and crude refining.
In any industrial project to be done, one of the first assignment is what's called environmental impact assessment

BRATISLAVA:


Diffusion.

Most people are looking at it economically, like dangite. Environmentally, it's not the best. And in a country like Nigeria with poor regulatory standards? It's like people don't know this substances are carcinogenic. Maybe when they begin to see the results they will join the cries of the ND.

I'm a Biotechnologist enthusiast. Pretty much, I speak as a scientist. Economically, it's fantastic. But for its capacitance functionality, I don't approve.


I love the place BUA cited it's. Lack of heavy human population thick dense forest. But even in all of these, I'm a believer in decentralised industrialisation so the earth that suffers the damage from all these heals. When the environment around such terrain is hit with consistent productivity, what lies ahead is 50/50. Mp doubt we may be wrong. But our fears aren't completely invalid


But me personally, from what I saw in few communities in Niger Delta to Ewekoro where limestone production is being done, I'm not a fan of overly heavy industry in a single location.

macaranta:
I really don't get your point @OP all the Nigerian refineries are located with almost same or lesser proximity to their respective cities. (PH, Warri, Kaduna). On the issue of flaring, refineries don't really flare gas as an associated gas because they don't drill (drilling comes with associated and unwanted methane gas), refineries will only flare as relief mechanisms (pressure vessel controls). With the current waste heat capture technology, they can reutilize heat for firing turbines and furnaces. Although no technology takes away 100% health hazards but it won't be as severe as what you're opining.

But it will make changes that cannot be reversed until many eras of primary succession.

The refinery is good, but they should show us more about it's environmental sustainability when it kicks off fully.

BlueSparks:



That's what they fail to pay attention to. Greed and the lust of wanting to overtake everyone is blinding eyes to reality

My family stay close to the area. I've told them all to run. And vacate the territory that the money people would generate would be used in treating cancer and all. I was around Ajah before.


From the hold up to the unhealthy air, I calculated the completion time of the refinery and made sure I ran as far as possible to a complete far place from that entire axis.


Before the refinery, Lagos has a highly toxic air. Now to add to it, what would be the resultant cumulative environmental impact on living, air, the Atlantic ocean, traffic etc.


Nigerians and greed are 5 and 6. Thats why Nigerians only look at Pros without looking at Cons. I ain't buying a single foot of land in that terrain. Lai lai

trash as usual. so a project as Big as this would be carried out without an EIA. rubbish

Op should first go and research why Eko is called Lagos.

There is nowhere in Africa that business thrives like Lagos.


Moreover, anything in Nigeria that has no link with Lagos is fake.


Check it out.

macaranta:
I really don't get your point @OP all the Nigerian refineries are located with almost same or lesser proximity to their respective cities. (PH, Warri, Kaduna). On the issue of flaring, refineries don't really flare gas as an associated gas because they don't drill (drilling comes with associated and unwanted methane gas), refineries will only flare as relief mechanisms (pressure vessel controls). With the current waste heat capture technology, they can reutilize heat for firing turbines and furnaces. Although no technology takes away 100% health hazards but it won't be as severe as what you're opining.

Good point. That's my hope that there's massive heat capture mechanisms in its operational. Schematics


It grieves my heart that despite what is gotten from the Niger Delta region, the refineries there flare nonstop with absolutely zero heat capture systematics in place. If this is in place, then very little heat is what will escape to the environment.

Let's all hope for its best.

His flour mills in Apapa destroyed that area that was like Ikoyi and Victoria Island.


Apart from CO2 , refinery emit methane, NO etc that is bad for environment and contribute to global warming.


All of that will make RAINS worse.

U think flooding in lekki is small now

Wait until after that plant is fully functional, the RAINS Are going to double.

Eventually the water go swallow up that area

Misterone:
trash as usual. so a project as Big as this would be carried out without an EIA. rubbish

Indeed. Please all the heavy industries polluting the world over where such assessment tests not done. I'm close to a Chinese production company, come and see the entire Rivers and streams around if it isn't dead


Don't bother quoting me since you can't interact reasonably. Full

gnykelly:
you guys are just blasting heavy ignorance.

do you think EIA was not done before approvals.

this thing is Faraway from people.


you guys are assuming you know better while you parrot ignorance

You really trust Nigeria govt to do the right thing because of the common man? Bruahahahaha.

BlueSparks:



I'm a Biotechnologist enthusiast. Pretty much, I speak as a scientist. Economically, it's fantastic. But for its capacitance functionality, I don't approve.


I love the place BUA cited it's. Lack of heavy human population thick dense forest. But even in all of these, I'm a believer in decentralised industrialisation so the earth that suffers the damage from all these heals. When the environment around such terrain is hit with consistent productivity, what lies ahead is 50/50. Mp doubt we may be wrong. But our fears aren't completely valid


But me personally, from what I saw in few communities in Niger Delta to Ewekoro where limestone production is being done, I'm not a fan of overly heavy industry in a single location.

I wouldn't want to live near any sort of industry. Pollution is not something to negotiate.

They are environmental destroyers, and permanent most times. That is the work of engineering, to transform the environment permanently, either in a good or in a bad way.

Additional heat with the way the ozone already is, is going to be something that will have repercussions in a few years. I thought we would be looking at sustainable energy, but it seems exploration companies want to drill all the oil in the Earth and get rich.

Campaign after election, when Dem don obey before complaints.

matrixme:

Have you forgotten that the fourth mainland bridge that will link Lekki with Ikorodu is being planned? Ikorodu is going to share in the prosperity of Lagos through this project
And of course, straight to Ibadan, where the dry port would have been operational.

Common Guys,

When will that happen? ...and you are still going to be using large trailers that have completely polluted Apapa. Apapa in the 1980s was like Ikoyi, today Apapa is a rundown extension of Ajegunle.

We need to ensure that the surrounding health of the community is not taken for granted, development must go hand in hand with environment protect and community health and safety.


The original plan was to locate the refinery in the Olokola FTZ which has natural deepsea facilities but his excused was that the compensation to the community would have amounted to 50% of the project cost ($4 billion) , I doubt that the local communities in Ondo would asked for $100 million.
The like of Tinubu and Fashola have as usual, sold out the Lagos communities , just look at all those oil tanks farms and their trailers that are causing havoc in Satellite town.

It was gathered that the relocation was informed by the inability of the Dangote Group to reach agreement with the communities in Ondo
State who were described as very difficult. According to one of our sources, who is actively involved in the project, “Alhaji Aliko Dangote
initially settled for Ondo state because of the relative peace in the state compared to other oil producing states, but the Olokola and Igbokoda
communities became very unreasonable in their demands. If we are to accede to their demands, we may have to spend about fifty percent of the
projected cost of the refinery on community relations. Since we are not government, we decided
to move the project to a more business friendly environment.”

BRATISLAVA:


I wouldn't want to live near any sort of industry. Pollution is not something to negotiate.

They are environmental destroyers, and permanent most times. That is the work of engineering, to transform the environment permanently, either in a good or in a bad way.

Additional heat with the way the ozone already is, is going to be something that will have repercussions in a few years. I thought we would be looking at sustainable energy, but it seems exploration companies want to drill all the oil in the Earth and get rich.

Someone around me took an MRI and full body scan test a couple of years back. The test was glaring in full red. Heavy pollution, intense brain waves, unusual brain activity, not normal. All caused by sun and polluted lagos air. Dude doesn't smoke nor drink nor club


How many of the cheerleaders of this project have gone for a full body scan to check their brains and blood and everything to examine their metabolic functionality.

95% of Nigerians consider these things as luxury until karma sets in


We will give it five years to watch it's prolonged impact. But for me today, with the video feeds coming from China from heavy over productivity, people like us consider it a nobrainer but to watch the project from afar.

sulaak:


Common Guys,

When will that happen? ...and you are still going to be using large trailers that have completely polluted Apapa. Apapa in the 1980s was like Ikoyi, today Apapa is a rundown extension of Ajegunle.

We need to ensure that the surrounding health of the community is not taken for granted, development must go hand in hand with environment protect and community health and safety.


The original plan was to locate the refinery in the Olokola FTZ which has natural deepsea facilities but his excused was that the compensation to the community would have amounted to 50% of the project cost ($4 billion) , I doubt that the local communities in Ondo would asked for $100 million.
The like of Tinubu and Fashola have as usual, sold out the Lagos communities , just look at all those oil tanks farms and their trailers that are causing havoc in Satellite town.

Exactly the first best location I picked as an alternative for the project.

Ondo has thick dense forests and can easily access so many parts of the country. With less human density as it's current location.


Let's not forget we will have close to 5 of such refineries in Nigeria so I'm expecting the heat wave and heat signatories over the next five years to scale up massively.


There's Dangote


There's BUA


There's an Ijebu guy who's refining capacity is 500,000 barrels daily.


And a few of such coming on stream in the next few years.

BlueSparks:




God bless you


They say it's far away. Does Physics not teach that heat is carried and distributed by wind?

love your comments
I study b.tech physics/elect, if I can be of use to you. abUmujaheed17@gmail.com

Mnopq:


love your comments
I study b.tech physics/elect, if I can be of use to you. abUmujaheed17@gmail.com

Physics for life

Speaking of which. I was the best in all areas in Physics back in the days of my academia. From Quantum physics to Nuclear Physics etc. You just reminded me... Damn..

BlueSparks:




For multiple reasons. There is likely going to be sub terrain supply pipelines to distribute to terminals like Apapa, access to rail way terminals and directly to the Atlantic Ocean to supply outside countries.

That will be good news , if it happen, but wouldn't that be overloading Apapa capacity.

I am convinced that majority of Dangote refined oil would be exported for dollars the logistics fits this model easy access to oil tanker from the refinery own port facilities. The government comatose refineries and the modular refineries will serve the Nigeria communities.

BlueSparks:



Someone around me took an MRI and full body scan test a couple of years back. The test was glaring in full red. Heavy pollution, intense brain waves, unusual brain activity, not normal. All caused by sun and polluted lagos air. Dude doesn't smoke nor drink nor club


How many of the cheerleaders of this project have gone for a full body scan to check their brains and blood and everything to examine their metabolic functionality.

95% of Nigerians consider these things as luxury until karma sets in


We will give it five years to watch it's prolonged impact. But for me today, with the video feeds coming from China from heavy over productivity, people like us consider it a nobrainer but to watch the project from afar.

Most of them want to work in the oil and gas industry, so they will applaud it, while expecting big salaries. There is a reason why.

Most have never thought of their health and the effect of pollutants. I was at the hospital one day where a man was going to have his cornea scraped or something of the sort, from welding without the proper apparatus. To him it was nothing until after many years he began having growths. That was exposure to something that small that only affected him. How much more a community, a city?

Let's watch what happens after the 5 years. I'd even extend it to ten, because that's when things would've set in. Nigerians are too smart once money is involved.

Interesting discuss going on here....
I really do hope the refineries uses those heat absorbers/recyclers for the benefit of Lagos residents....
Also dangote wudnt wan2 cross d safety line especially with the climate change/global warming campaign goin on internationally......

BlueSparks:




Exactly the first best location I picked as an alternative for the project.

Ondo has thick dense forests and can easily access so many parts of the country. With less human density as it's current location.


Let's not forget we will have close to 5 of such refineries in Nigeria so I'm expecting the heat wave and heat signatories over the next five years to scale up massively.


There's Dangote


There's BUA


There's an Ijebu guy who's refining capacity is 500,000 barrels daily.


And a few of such coming on stream in the next few years.

What Ijebu guy?

sulaak:


That will be good news , if it happen, but wouldn't that be overloading Apapa capacity.

I am convinced that majority of Dangote refined oil would be exported for dollars the logistics fits this model easy access to oil tanker from the refinery own port facilities. The government comatose refineries and the modular refineries will serve the Nigeria communities.

It's well thought out actually. It is going to unfold in phases. There is a renewal of the 1970s petroleum pipelines network that will ensure streamlined nationwide distribution to tackle the challenges of distribution


Let's not forget Lagos Ibadan expressway once functional will be freer than now.

Planned cargo rail services and heavy..


See. Let me tell you guys the truth

Dangote isn't producing for local production


That's the pure fact. Yes a good part will meet local need but the bulk of his market and his target is international market. This is where the Atlantic Ocean comes in


Kudos to Sailors in advance as much opportunities will begin to open to them


Also, Nigeria brokered an agreement with the European Union to construct a supply pipeline from Nigeria directly to Europe. Indeed his project is massive, highly beneficial to the country. And beyond. I wish him well

I see the country benefitting from it massively

I also like to postulate that he will be the richest man in the world because of this refinery within ten years of operation.

BlueSparks:



That's what they fail to pay attention to. Greed and the lust of wanting to overtake everyone is blinding eyes to reality

My family stay close to the area. I've told them all to run. And vacate the territory that the money people would generate would be used in treating cancer and all. I was around Ajah before.


From the hold up to the unhealthy air, I calculated the completion time of the refinery and made sure I ran as far as possible to a complete far place from that entire axis.


Before the refinery, Lagos has a highly toxic air. Now to add to it, what would be the resultant cumulative environmental impact on living, air, the Atlantic ocean, traffic etc.


Nigerians and greed are 5 and 6. Thats why Nigerians only look at Pros without looking at Cons. I ain't buying a single foot of land in that terrain. Lai lai

They should ask people in Warri and Portharcourt. They will learn. Add the sea port coming on that same axis and you have a complete chaotic atmosphere.

The air in that Ajah is unhealthy. In fact, air there hardly circulate...

Well the refinery was formally for Ondo but the then governor of Ondo state rejected it. So Tinubu asked them to come

These were the kind of threads that endeared me to nairaland until we started seeing Tonto Dike's threads back to back.

Hollawayn05:
Nairaland harbors Intelligent people ooo
Am Mouuuved

SavageResponse:


You are the one who is displaying ignorance here!

Stop mixing up refinery and crude oil production platform(Onshore and offshore)

I just dey read they laugh there's difference btw a rig and refinery. That's the mistake they making. Even America with their shale oil have refineries.

Largest petroleum refineries in the United States
Rank Refinery Barrels/Day
1 Port Arthur Refinery 607,000
2 Galveston Bay Refinery 585,000
3 Baytown Refinery 560,500
4 Garyville Refinery 564,000

Environmental and health assessments risk as been taking and certified before lagos state will give dangote go ahead to build a refinery in lagos, and i can bet the means of crude transportation to the refinery will be by vessel not pipe. Which is one of the major problems in niger delta cos pipes are used mostly to move crudes and products to depots and the refineries.

Even if there will be health and enviromental risk it will be of minimal effect. Renfineries dont flare gas pls.

TechSkill:


They should ask people in Warri and Portharcourt. They will learn. Add the sea port coming on that same axis and you have a complete chaotic atmosphere.

The air in that Ajah is unhealthy. In fact, air there hardly circulate...

Well the refinery was formally for Ondo but the then governor of Ondo state rejected it. So Tinubu asked them to come

Do you know I keep saying this but people don't notice or pay attention


The Air around Ajah towards Eleko is highly dense and heavy and doesn't circulate. You can't compare the air around Ajah to the Air from Awoyaya to Bogije, Lakowe etc

BlueSparks:
I've maintained that many heavy industry across the world are built in forests. While it is good in many areas, I believe it would have been better in forests like in Ijebu area. As the presence will lead to a surge in productivity in such areas.


Although, it may be connected to a railway grid, or ferried through the Atlantic, there's going to be massive shakings in that entire part of Lagos when it starts. Lagos FTZ is bound to benefit, and Lagos generally. But who knows. There's plenty of advantages and disadvantages. It's better we watch

We don't still know the impact of that refinery on the environment and human lives in the area. I'm paying keen attention to this in the first 5 years of its operation to see how it goes.


More Wins to him, more Wins to Lagos

I guess an environmental impact assessment must have been carried out to ensure the safety of both the environment and humans in that area.

Why the worry when the facility is already nearing completion? And where else would you suggest he site it that don't have people around the vicinity. 2022 is around the corner, let's hold our breath and see what measures are in place to curb these pollutants.
Besides, the facility is tucked away in a LFTZ for safety with traffic meant to be directed outward through Epe-Ota and Epe-Ikorodu axis. Only components to be used on the Island goes inward through LEKKI so expect minimal impact on traffic situations too. Don't forget the proposed GREEN RAIL LINE would link the refinery enroute to the Lekki Seaport. Perhaps existence of activities from the refinery would speed up the rail development.