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Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Abudu2000(m): 6:17am On Mar 22, 2021 |
thebosstrevor1:if something as small as a GSM mast can devalue the lands around it then how much more a refinery.however sometimes what the govt do id weigh the pros and cons. Fertilizers are not too good for human health fine but with the increasing world population how can we cope without it? Same it this here, the refinery with definitely boost the economy so if a few black clouds and some fishes going belly up will be the sacrifice then so be it 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Abudu2000(m): 6:19am On Mar 22, 2021 |
Kccheechy:doesn't matter fam, there's still going to be waste products to be removed as production goes on |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 6:21am On Mar 22, 2021 |
seunny4lif: When you don't study wide how will you understand Go to Google and dig you'll find your answers there if I speak any deceit I leave you in peace 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Abudu2000(m): 6:21am On Mar 22, 2021 |
thebosstrevor1:an employee will have no problem paying 5m per annum to live and work there tho, your conclusion isn't accurate. |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 6:26am On Mar 22, 2021 |
CaptainFM1: 2 refineries that follows the ranks of Dangote are earmarked to be situated in forests. |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by seunny4lif(m): 6:36am On Mar 22, 2021 |
Pele ooooh Pipeline from Nigeria to Europe when Russia, Norway and Isreal oil and gas are cheap and will cost less BlueSparks: |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Abudu2000(m): 6:39am On Mar 22, 2021 |
BlueSparks:u sounded like a patriotic yoruba man but not a lagosian lol. All of it being sited at lag is ur problem not the pollution. I suggest u better get used to it being in lagos man |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Olatara(f): 6:39am On Mar 22, 2021 |
SenecaTheYonger:The black spot in PortHarcourt is caused by illegal refineries. |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 6:44am On Mar 22, 2021 |
seunny4lif: Go and dig up your research or ask people in the industry. Cause I believe you just woke up to international issues and all a decade ago. Obasanjo brokered this deal in his second term as president. So because you don't know a thing or were not informed makes it beer parlour gist abi. Tell me. What was the stability of Libya like in 2003 and Co. Would Italy just sit back as the presence modern era of Libya while Germany pulls of a mega deal with them. Use your brain Is the Nordics not exposed to the exact or rather even more extreme weather conditions than Germany who was sourcing for what it termed stable alternative to gas Please. Go do your studies about the successes of Gazprom and Russia as a while around the 2000/2004 window as against the time after Gazprom became a hit. Even if we assume it considered Russia. I feel sorry for all your abroad living. You're nothing but a fool who sits on the fence has nothing to contribute to societal issues but only seeking for loopholes to puncture to drag colour and discredit. |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 6:44am On Mar 22, 2021 |
seunny4lif: Go and dig up your research or ask people in the industry. Cause I believe you just woke up to international issues and all a decade ago. Obasanjo brokered this deal in his second term as president. So because you don't know a thing or were not informed makes it beer parlour gist abi. Tell me. What was the stability of Libya like in 2003 and Co. Would Italy just sit back as the presence modern era of Libya while Germany pulls of a mega deal with them. Use your brain Is the Nordics not exposed to the exact or rather even more extreme weather conditions than Germany who was sourcing for what it termed stable alternative to gas Please. Go do your studies about the successes of Gazprom and Russia as a while around the 2000/2004 window as against the time after Gazprom became a hit. Even if we assume it considered Russia. I feel sorry for all your abroad living. You're nothing but a fool who sits on the fence has nothing to contribute to societal issues but only seeking for loopholes to puncture to drag colour and discredit.. After you date back your thinking faculty to the window of this deal, then ask yourself the conditions of those your so called alternatives. Even to as far as Iraq and Iran that recently came onstream Olodo |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 6:47am On Mar 22, 2021 |
Abudu2000: I'm not a yoruba man. The era I was born and all through growing up, we were thought to reason and discuss intellectually without adding emotions and all to it. And it's easy for a blind to see that the refinery is stationed where it is for fast access to the ocean for fast access to the international markets and for profits. And whatever assessment was looked into before its establishment blinded it access to an holistic impact of its presence there. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by bayelsaowei(m): 6:51am On Mar 22, 2021 |
BlueSparks:youre correct. And again the regulstors that approve these permits are dpr and federal ministry of environment. A huge bribery sum can just close the EIA thing out. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 6:56am On Mar 22, 2021 |
bayelsaowei: I can bet my coin on it that as long as Nigeria is concerned that's nothing like EIA. If EIA is considered realistically as we assume no abbatoirs in Nigeria will still be open. I speak realistically. All abbatoirs I've seen in my life in this country, if not God has so much bastardized all the water bodies around it in a way that it's only God that has/is preventing breakout of epidemic. From Kara to Cele Ijesha to Oko Oba etc. I've never seen EIA swung into action in any industrial activity if not what's happening in Niger Delta won't be happening I stay close to a Chinese firm. It you see the hundreds of thousands of chemicals pumped into the water bodies you will fear. Why has any government organization not closed them. An entire large water body miles afar off is smelling badly from these chemicals. 5 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by bayelsaowei(m): 6:59am On Mar 22, 2021 |
BlueSparks:funny enough these EIAs are much enforced for IOcs operating in the country. Infact without an EIA approved no site construction can commence. But I do know other companies can bribe their way through. |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 7:02am On Mar 22, 2021 |
bayelsaowei: I took a tour back in the years when the whole Niger Delta issue broke out to the media I was young but wanted first hand reports of my hand report of my own. On touching ground I was crying. Where are the so-called EIAs. Example gas flaring was sanctioned by the Country to oil extractive and producing companies as far back as second term of Obasanjo. I don't know if till date Shell and it's crook peers has stopped the madness they do in ND EIAs appeal to mid-term companies. For higher companies, organizations and individuals we all know there's a seperate law altogether.. Let's just hope we skeptics are wrong which I'm open to I want to assume it's designers in its blueprints put everything together for smooth working without issues to the environment. While I speak against, it's simply to the soul of the society. I'm happy if I'm wrong and if they did the right thing. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by mmsen: 7:04am On Mar 22, 2021 |
Hashabiah: Legislators can write any nonsense they like on a piece of paper. Will they enforce the law? Will the courts enforce the law? 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by bigcasava1(m): 7:07am On Mar 22, 2021 |
ngoremeka:Lagos atmosphere is already polluted |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Pweetiedude(m): 7:10am On Mar 22, 2021 |
Refineries emit many gases like sulphur dioxide (SO2), nitrogen oxide (NO2), carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, methane, dioxins, hydrogen fluoride, chlorine, benzene and others. Many of the gases emitted by refineries are harmful to humans, and can cause permanent damage and even death. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Born2conquer: 7:12am On Mar 22, 2021 |
Hashabiah:Especially estates getting developed around the refineries, like what are people thinking? They think industry will bring development, yes! But Not residential development 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by evy800(f): 7:13am On Mar 22, 2021 |
I'm learning here A very insightful discussion 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Rapture4real(m): 7:29am On Mar 22, 2021 |
My experience in Rivers State makes me to agree with the op.Gas and oil production has its negative impacts on human and environmental aspects of life. Our leaders know that Nigerians are used to suffering. So they will look the other side as long as they collect money from the company. 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Hashabiah: 7:34am On Mar 22, 2021 |
[s] onatisi:[/s] Oga you are speaking ignorantly. Have you ever been to a refinery to see what goes on there ? Do you even have a clue, as to the threat it poses to a high population density area like Lagos...? And for your information, just because you saw a few refineries (on TV) being situated in densely populated areas, does not mean it is the standard way of doing things ; no that is a 3rd -world country's way of doing things and the ripple effect is normally felt years after the damage is done. If you doubt this, Google "oxygen bars " of New Delhi in India , and see why they there. There is always an EIA(Enviromental Impact Assessment) report that done prior to the establishment of an industry. So let me ask you this question :Has the Dangote group shown you or any of the other gullible folks on this forum that assessment report? Because you cannot say that there no harm a refinery will pose to the site it is established. Lastly , i would like you to read up on the design of the refinery being situated by Dangote group , and see if those effluent gases that will be produced from the distillation process are not hazardous in nature. Peace 2 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Nobody: 7:48am On Mar 22, 2021 |
You're talking about environmental issues but still saying it would be best if sited in Ondo or Edo. Are you then saying there won't be environmental issues if it's in Ondo or Edo? sukieboy: 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by SavageResponse(m): 7:56am On Mar 22, 2021 |
McLizbae: Not very likely 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by SavageResponse(m): 8:01am On Mar 22, 2021 |
BlueSparks: Stop talking rubbish it does not make economic sense to build an undersea pipeline from Nigeria to Europe. Most countries in Europe are even phasing out fossil fuel powered cars and moving to electric vehicle therefore this project makes no sense! |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by SavageResponse(m): 8:02am On Mar 22, 2021 |
Keemsleek005: Don't mind that ignoramus that thinks he knows it all |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by 35824L: 8:04am On Mar 22, 2021 |
Mumu Op. Worry about the GSM masts located close to your house instead of bitching about a refinery well located in an industrial area. Someone with a good nose can detect the smell of this envy is coming from flat heads in the gully erosion ravaged region. |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by bayelsaowei(m): 8:05am On Mar 22, 2021 |
BlueSparks:you do know flaring was inevitable as a result of our own government who wasn't ready to develop our domestic gas market and invest in massive gas infrastructures. Some of the chaos you see in the niger delta and its environs are most times perpetuated by the locals who bunker crude from oil lines. Ofcourse EIA can't cover for that... Bottom line is if a company like shell plans to construct any pipeline or build a facility work can't commence until an EIA study is carried out and an approval secured from DPR and FMENV. But for dangote who owns the country I doubt if any mumu dpr can stop him. 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by SavageResponse(m): 8:07am On Mar 22, 2021 |
bizzibodi: We're talking about a refinery here not an oil rig or oil production platform...It's in oil rigs that they normally flare gas which is more or less regarded as a by-product of crude production. Most of these guys commenting and talking rubbish do not even know the difference between drill ship and a semi submersible but they're here pretending to be Energy industry experts! |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by josite: 8:18am On Mar 22, 2021 |
[quote author=thebosstrevor1 post=100089632] Pls just get educated about this issue. People who live around any medium and heavy industrial infrastructures are risking their lives. Go and see lafarge cement plant along lagos abeokuta express way...the people living around those areas are not in good health condition, the air there is polluted talkless of a refinery and a petrol chemical plants that produces fertilizer which can also be used to make bombs. Dont ever buy any land near any refin ery, that is a bad investment [/quot You are wrong.i have plots to sell at oko orisan Lagos State govt water front scheme and I'm selling because even at 10m,I got more persons willing to buy so it is true property in that axis will go up.but they may not live their.likecsomeone said people still live around all the refineries in Nigeria |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by iyapont: 8:21am On Mar 22, 2021 |
Judolisco:He came to ondo state then I think but mimiko the greedy man chased him away.. |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by adelekeolu(m): 8:30am On Mar 22, 2021 |
keep your negative thought to yourself. God bless south west Nigeria |
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