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Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Nobody: 10:15pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
Standing5: Because refineries were built in those areas does not mean people around dont suffer health problems. Workers will live near the refineries and most times, the companies provide those facilities plus proper health care, but if you are an ordinary citizen dont ever try to buy any land around any industrial facilities, it is waste of time, only naive people will buy but people that care about their health will avoid death in dusguise when they see one package in christmas gifts. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BRATISLAVA: 10:15pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
Kccheechy: No problem of oil spillage? Will the oil be teleported into the refinery? |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 10:16pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
sulaak: For multiple reasons. There is likely going to be sub terrain supply pipelines to distribute to terminals like Apapa, access to rail way terminals and directly to the Atlantic Ocean to supply outside countries. |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BRATISLAVA: 10:17pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
BlueSparks: Diffusion. Most people are looking at it economically, like dangite. Environmentally, it's not the best. And in a country like Nigeria with poor regulatory standards? It's like people don't know these substances are carcinogenic. Maybe when they begin to see the results they will join the cries of the ND. For now their ignorance is bliss. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by macaranta(m): 10:19pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
I really don't get your point @OP all the Nigerian refineries are located with almost same or lesser proximity to their respective cities. (PH, Warri, Kaduna). On the issue of flaring, refineries don't really flare gas as an associated gas because they don't drill (drilling comes with associated and unwanted methane gas), refineries will only flare as relief mechanisms (pressure vessel controls). With the current waste heat capture technology, they can reutilize heat for firing turbines and furnaces. Although no technology takes away 100% health hazards but it won't be as severe as what you're opining. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Kubernetes: 10:21pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
There is a difference between crude exploration and crude refining. In any industrial project to be done, one of the first assignment is what's called environmental impact assessment 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 10:21pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
BRATISLAVA: I'm a Biotechnologist enthusiast. Pretty much, I speak as a scientist. Economically, it's fantastic. But for its capacitance functionality, I don't approve. I love the place BUA cited it's. Lack of heavy human population thick dense forest. But even in all of these, I'm a believer in decentralised industrialisation so the earth that suffers the damage from all these heals. When the environment around such terrain is hit with consistent productivity, what lies ahead is 50/50. Mp doubt we may be wrong. But our fears aren't completely invalid But me personally, from what I saw in few communities in Niger Delta to Ewekoro where limestone production is being done, I'm not a fan of overly heavy industry in a single location. 5 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BRATISLAVA: 10:21pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
macaranta: But it will make changes that cannot be reversed until many eras of primary succession. The refinery is good, but they should show us more about it's environmental sustainability when it kicks off fully. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Misterone: 10:22pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
BlueSparks:trash as usual. so a project as Big as this would be carried out without an EIA. rubbish 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by oyeb15: 10:23pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
Op should first go and research why Eko is called Lagos. There is nowhere in Africa that business thrives like Lagos. Moreover, anything in Nigeria that has no link with Lagos is fake. Check it out. 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 10:24pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
macaranta: Good point. That's my hope that there's massive heat capture mechanisms in its operational. Schematics It grieves my heart that despite what is gotten from the Niger Delta region, the refineries there flare nonstop with absolutely zero heat capture systematics in place. If this is in place, then very little heat is what will escape to the environment. Let's all hope for its best. 8 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by blasterman(m): 10:24pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
His flour mills in Apapa destroyed that area that was like Ikoyi and Victoria Island. Apart from CO2 , refinery emit methane, NO etc that is bad for environment and contribute to global warming. All of that will make RAINS worse. U think flooding in lekki is small now Wait until after that plant is fully functional, the RAINS Are going to double. Eventually the water go swallow up that area 6 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 10:25pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
Misterone: Indeed. Please all the heavy industries polluting the world over where such assessment tests not done. I'm close to a Chinese production company, come and see the entire Rivers and streams around if it isn't dead Don't bother quoting me since you can't interact reasonably. Full 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by sukieboy(f): 10:26pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
gnykelly: You really trust Nigeria govt to do the right thing because of the common man? Bruahahahaha. 4 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BRATISLAVA: 10:26pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
BlueSparks: I wouldn't want to live near any sort of industry. Pollution is not something to negotiate. They are environmental destroyers, and permanent most times. That is the work of engineering, to transform the environment permanently, either in a good or in a bad way. Additional heat with the way the ozone already is, is going to be something that will have repercussions in a few years. I thought we would be looking at sustainable energy, but it seems exploration companies want to drill all the oil in the Earth and get rich. 4 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by witworth(m): 10:27pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
Campaign after election, when Dem don obey before complaints. |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by sulaak(m): 10:29pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
matrixme: Common Guys, When will that happen? ...and you are still going to be using large trailers that have completely polluted Apapa. Apapa in the 1980s was like Ikoyi, today Apapa is a rundown extension of Ajegunle. We need to ensure that the surrounding health of the community is not taken for granted, development must go hand in hand with environment protect and community health and safety. The original plan was to locate the refinery in the Olokola FTZ which has natural deepsea facilities but his excused was that the compensation to the community would have amounted to 50% of the project cost ($4 billion) , I doubt that the local communities in Ondo would asked for $100 million. The like of Tinubu and Fashola have as usual, sold out the Lagos communities , just look at all those oil tanks farms and their trailers that are causing havoc in Satellite town. It was gathered that the relocation was informed by the inability of the Dangote Group to reach agreement with the communities in Ondo 9 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 10:30pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
BRATISLAVA: Someone around me took an MRI and full body scan test a couple of years back. The test was glaring in full red. Heavy pollution, intense brain waves, unusual brain activity, not normal. All caused by sun and polluted lagos air. Dude doesn't smoke nor drink nor club How many of the cheerleaders of this project have gone for a full body scan to check their brains and blood and everything to examine their metabolic functionality. 95% of Nigerians consider these things as luxury until karma sets in We will give it five years to watch it's prolonged impact. But for me today, with the video feeds coming from China from heavy over productivity, people like us consider it a nobrainer but to watch the project from afar. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 10:31pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
sulaak: Exactly the first best location I picked as an alternative for the project. Ondo has thick dense forests and can easily access so many parts of the country. With less human density as it's current location. Let's not forget we will have close to 5 of such refineries in Nigeria so I'm expecting the heat wave and heat signatories over the next five years to scale up massively. There's Dangote There's BUA There's an Ijebu guy who's refining capacity is 500,000 barrels daily. And a few of such coming on stream in the next few years. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Mnopq: 10:32pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
BlueSparks: love your comments I study b.tech physics/elect, if I can be of use to you. abUmujaheed17@gmail.com |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 10:34pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
Mnopq: Physics for life Speaking of which. I was the best in all areas in Physics back in the days of my academia. From Quantum physics to Nuclear Physics etc. You just reminded me... Damn.. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by sulaak(m): 10:35pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
BlueSparks: That will be good news , if it happen, but wouldn't that be overloading Apapa capacity. I am convinced that majority of Dangote refined oil would be exported for dollars the logistics fits this model easy access to oil tanker from the refinery own port facilities. The government comatose refineries and the modular refineries will serve the Nigeria communities. |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BRATISLAVA: 10:36pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
BlueSparks: Most of them want to work in the oil and gas industry, so they will applaud it, while expecting big salaries. There is a reason why. Most have never thought of their health and the effect of pollutants. I was at the hospital one day where a man was going to have his cornea scraped or something of the sort, from welding without the proper apparatus. To him it was nothing until after many years he began having growths. That was exposure to something that small that only affected him. How much more a community, a city? Let's watch what happens after the 5 years. I'd even extend it to ten, because that's when things would've set in. Nigerians are too smart once money is involved. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Yujiz(m): 10:38pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
Interesting discuss going on here.... I really do hope the refineries uses those heat absorbers/recyclers for the benefit of Lagos residents.... Also dangote wudnt wan2 cross d safety line especially with the climate change/global warming campaign goin on internationally...... |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by sulaak(m): 10:38pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
BlueSparks: What Ijebu guy? |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 10:38pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
sulaak: It's well thought out actually. It is going to unfold in phases. There is a renewal of the 1970s petroleum pipelines network that will ensure streamlined nationwide distribution to tackle the challenges of distribution Let's not forget Lagos Ibadan expressway once functional will be freer than now. Planned cargo rail services and heavy.. See. Let me tell you guys the truth Dangote isn't producing for local production That's the pure fact. Yes a good part will meet local need but the bulk of his market and his target is international market. This is where the Atlantic Ocean comes in Kudos to Sailors in advance as much opportunities will begin to open to them Also, Nigeria brokered an agreement with the European Union to construct a supply pipeline from Nigeria directly to Europe. Indeed his project is massive, highly beneficial to the country. And beyond. I wish him well I see the country benefitting from it massively I also like to postulate that he will be the richest man in the world because of this refinery within ten years of operation. |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by TechSkill: 10:40pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
BlueSparks: They should ask people in Warri and Portharcourt. They will learn. Add the sea port coming on that same axis and you have a complete chaotic atmosphere. The air in that Ajah is unhealthy. In fact, air there hardly circulate... Well the refinery was formally for Ondo but the then governor of Ondo state rejected it. So Tinubu asked them to come 4 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by ayandee: 10:41pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
These were the kind of threads that endeared me to nairaland until we started seeing Tonto Dike's threads back to back. Hollawayn05: 4 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by Keemsleek005(m): 10:41pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
SavageResponse: I just dey read they laugh there's difference btw a rig and refinery. That's the mistake they making. Even America with their shale oil have refineries. Largest petroleum refineries in the United States Rank Refinery Barrels/Day 1 Port Arthur Refinery 607,000 2 Galveston Bay Refinery 585,000 3 Baytown Refinery 560,500 4 Garyville Refinery 564,000 Environmental and health assessments risk as been taking and certified before lagos state will give dangote go ahead to build a refinery in lagos, and i can bet the means of crude transportation to the refinery will be by vessel not pipe. Which is one of the major problems in niger delta cos pipes are used mostly to move crudes and products to depots and the refineries. Even if there will be health and enviromental risk it will be of minimal effect. Renfineries dont flare gas pls. 1 Like |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by BlueSparks: 10:42pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
TechSkill: Do you know I keep saying this but people don't notice or pay attention The Air around Ajah towards Eleko is highly dense and heavy and doesn't circulate. You can't compare the air around Ajah to the Air from Awoyaya to Bogije, Lakowe etc 2 Likes |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by bayelsaowei(m): 10:43pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
BlueSparks:I guess an environmental impact assessment must have been carried out to ensure the safety of both the environment and humans in that area. |
Re: Is Lagos A Good Place To Build A Refinery Like Dangote Refinery? by PHAYOL81: 10:44pm On Mar 21, 2021 |
Why the worry when the facility is already nearing completion? And where else would you suggest he site it that don't have people around the vicinity. 2022 is around the corner, let's hold our breath and see what measures are in place to curb these pollutants. Besides, the facility is tucked away in a LFTZ for safety with traffic meant to be directed outward through Epe-Ota and Epe-Ikorodu axis. Only components to be used on the Island goes inward through LEKKI so expect minimal impact on traffic situations too. Don't forget the proposed GREEN RAIL LINE would link the refinery enroute to the Lekki Seaport. Perhaps existence of activities from the refinery would speed up the rail development. |
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