This is not to bring down any religion, this is based on logic and reasoning.

I might be wrong, so please let's not take things personal here.

This is an intelligent discuss open for debate.

I have about 10 reasons, but just 3 reasons here to save time for others to comment.

1. No Tolerance Religion: A religion is suppose to be as more tolerant and forgiving. Islam today or certain sharia laws has maintained death as penalty for certain wrong-doings. Some laws even go as far as amputating legs and arms, or even cutting off heads in a brutal manner. I believe this is not Godly enough.

2. Terrorism Linked: Islam has always been linked to terrorism. This is because of certain laws that the Quran supports, such as an eye for an eye. In islam it is very okay to retaliate, such as someone kill your relation, you have the right to retaliation. I believe religion should not promote retaliation in any form or shape. It should teach forgiveness as no one is perfect.

3. The Need For a Balanced Book: please see below and read:

lite16nl:
This is not to bring down any religion, this is based on logic and reasoning.

I might be wrong, so please let's not take things personal here.

This is an intelligent discuss open for debate.

Lol! First, this is not based on logic or reason at all, but on simple blindness, as in a blatant refusal to use you eyes, which a very wise person said "was the lamp of the body". And you are wrong, and it is personal because people's Gods are nothing but personal.

lite16nl:
1. No Tolerance Religion: A religion is suppose to be as more tolerant and forgiving. Islam today or certain sharia laws has maintained death as penalty for certain wrong-doings. Some laws even go as far as amputating legs and arms, or even cutting off heads in a brutal manner. I believe this is not Godly enough.

You obviously have not looked around you, or you'd know that most Islamic states do not realy go about imposing Sharia law as you've described. But even if they do, is practise the same as what the religion teaches? Would you say Christianity condones killing because a Christian kills?

I will whataboutis. Go check incacerations in God Blessed America and let me know if they practise Sharia Law.

Most Islamic nations do not impose amputation as punishment, and many are fighting alqaeda and boko haram who want to impose it. Do let me know these are not what you refer to as Muslims.

lite16nl:
2. Terrorism Linked: Islam has always been linked to terrorism. This is because of certain laws that the Quran supports, such as an eye for an eye. In islam it is very okay to retaliate, such as someone kill your relation, you have the right to retaliation. I believe religion should not promote retaliation in any form or shape. It should teach forgiveness as no one is perfect.

Actually, this is untrue, and thankfully, you are not a Christian or I would accuse you of bearing false witness.

Below are two verses from the Quran that suggest what you claim:

O ye who believe! the law of equality is prescribed to you in cases of murder: the free for the free, the slave for the slave, the woman for the woman. But if any remission is made by the brother of the slain, then grant any reasonable demand, and compensate him with handsome gratitude, this is a concession and a Mercy from your Lord. After this whoever exceeds the limits shall be in grave penalty. — Quran 2:178

We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers. — Quran 5:45

What you've done, though I'm certain you just never read the Quran, is ignore the "but", which is like ignoring the "but" in the verse below

Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Matthew 5:38-48 King James Version (KJV)


I guess I must ask again. Are alqaeda and boko haram Muslims, to you?

For clarity, i have these questions for you.

1. What verses do they read in the Quran when they are about to kill?

(I mean the terrorist, we all know there are good Muslims. but am referring to the terrorists now, why kind of verses do they read? )

2. What really is Jihad?

3. Why do these people always find justification somehow from the book to continue their act in the name of Allah.

Please shed light, and let's not take anything personal.

lite16nl:
What verses do they read in the Quran when they are about to kill?

Are you asking What verses your Muslim neighbours read in the Quran when they are about to kill you?

Do you have Muslim neighbours? Where do you live please?

budaatum:


Are you asking What verses your Muslim neighbours read in the Quran when they are about to kill you?

Do you have Muslim neighbours? Where do you live please?

i just told you am referring to the terrorists, please let's not take this personal. Lets be objective

They carry the Quran about even mentioning Allah, while carrying out their act. what is their justification really?
.

lite16nl:
For clarity, i have these questions for you.

1. What verses do they read in the Quran when they are about to kill?

(I mean the terrorist, we all know there are good Muslims. but am referring to the terrorists now, why kind of verses do they read? )

Are terrorists your understanding of Muslims and Islam?

If a Christian kills someone will you blame Christianity?

lite16nl:

2. What really is Jihad?

Struggle against your demons, like remove the forest from your own eyes, though some may think it means remove the twig from the eyes of others.

lite16nl:

3. Why do these people always find justification somehow from the book to continue their act in the name of Allah.

This is like asking why a Christian would "Thank you Lord I am not a tax collector".

How about because such people are ignorant of what they read in a book?

lite16nl:


i just told you am referring to the terrorists, please let's not take this personal. Lets be objective

They carry the Quran about even mentioning Allah, while carrying out their act. what is their justification really?
.

Do I need to tell you that terrorists are not practising Islam just as a murderer or a thief is not practising Christianity even if they pray in Jesus name? Have you not heard of the Lordists?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13292880_screenshot20210321223322_jpeg7c790ee7352d874c29f78713f415041b

lite16nl:
This is not to bring down any religion, this is based on logic and reasoning.

I might be wrong, so please let's not take things personal here.

This is an intelligent discuss open for debate.

I have about 10 reasons, but just 3 reasons here to save time for others to comment.

1. No Tolerance Religion: A religion is suppose to be as more tolerant and forgiving. Islam today or certain sharia laws has maintained death as penalty for certain wrong-doings. Some laws even go as far as amputating legs and arms, or even cutting off heads in a brutal manner. I believe this is not Godly enough.

2. Terrorism Linked: Islam has always been linked to terrorism. This is because of certain laws that the Quran supports, such as an eye for an eye. In islam it is very okay to retaliate, such as someone kill your relation, you have the right to retaliation. I believe religion should not promote retaliation in any form or shape. It should teach forgiveness as no one is perfect.

3. The Need For a Balanced Book: please see below and read:

"Love your neighbor" is a joke.
budaatum is just another group of ageless indivisible objects.
The Quran can't make my statements false.
Some people deserve to be killed.

budaatum:


Do I need to tell you that terrorists are not practising Islam just as a murderer or a thief is not practising Christianity even if they pray in Jesus name? Have you not heard of the Lordists?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13292880_screenshot20210321223322_jpeg7c790ee7352d874c29f78713f415041b

You are using questions to answer my question, Some of my questions are yet to be answered. such as

1. What is Jihad All About

2. What particular verse(s) in Quran do terrorist read out.

Just answer objectively, do not take it personal.

lite16nl:




You are using questions to answer my question, Some of my questions are yet to be answered. such as

1. What is Jihad All About

2. What particular verse(s) in Quran do terrorist read out.

Just answer objectively, do not take it personal.

Budaatum can't answer your questions.
Budaatum is only good at false accusations.

mhm

budaatum:

Lol! First, this is not based on logic or reason at all, but on simple blindness, as in a blatant refusal to use you eyes, which a very wise person said "was the lamp of the body". And you are wrong, and it is personal because people's Gods are nothing but personal.


You obviously have not looked around you, or you'd know that most Islamic states do not realy go about imposing Sharia law as you've described. But even if they do, is practise the same as what the religion teaches? Would you say Christianity condones killing because a Christian kills?

I will whataboutis. Go check incacerations in God Blessed America and let me know if they practise Sharia Law.

Most Islamic nations do not impose amputation as punishment, and many are fighting alqaeda and boko haram who want to impose it. Do let me know these are not what you refer to as Muslims.


Actually, this is untrue, and thankfully, you are not a Christian or I would accuse you of bearing false witness.

Below are two verses from the Quran that suggest what you claim:

O ye who believe! the law of equality is prescribed to you in cases of murder: the free for the free, the slave for the slave, the woman for the woman. But if any remission is made by the brother of the slain, then grant any reasonable demand, and compensate him with handsome gratitude, this is a concession and a Mercy from your Lord. After this whoever exceeds the limits shall be in grave penalty. — Quran 2:178

We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers. — Quran 5:45

What you've done, though I'm certain you just never read the Quran, is ignore the "but", which is like ignoring the "but" in the verse below

Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Matthew 5:38-48 King James Version (KJV)


I guess I must ask again. Are alqaeda and boko haram Muslims, to you?

do you believe in the part of the Koran whick says kill all unbelievers, torture them let them feel your harshness? if you do all you said up there is shit and you are a terrorist so get the hell out of here and go to the jihadiats section

Fvckyouall:


do you believe in the part of the Koran whick says kill all unbelievers, torture them let them feel your harshness? if you do all you said up there is shit and you are a terrorist so get the hell out of here and go to the jihadiats section

buda does not believe in books. One must read with ones brain to understand.

Kindly give references for the part of the Koran you claim says what you say is in the Koran so we can check it is truly there please and know you are not lying or just ignorant of that which you claim.

loool

Fvckyouall:


do you believe in the part of the Koran whick says kill all unbelievers, torture them let them feel your harshness? if you do all you said up there is shit and you are a terrorist so get the hell out of here and go to the jihadiats section

It is only the Quran that many Muslims interpret to form terrorist groups. In fact, the Quran says fighting is prescribed for Muslims:

- "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not Quran 2:216.

How is fighting good for mankind?
Fight who and for what? There, the Quran never states the fighting is in self-defence or retaliation, but a blanket command to fight. What a book., yet muslims ironically say Islam is a religion of peace. How can a religion that recommends fighting be called a religion of peace.

Look at what is happening in Kwara State now, before you know it, they have started destroying Churches. The god of Islam is a violent God. I doubt if it is not the Muslims that will destroy the world. God's true worshippers are not supposed to be violent, but gentle and easy-going, I wonder who Allah is that does not want peace for the world.

No reasonable Christian will interpret the Bible and become a terrorist Jesus laid a very solid foundation for peace and so it continued before the advent of Muhammad, who killed and maimed thousands of people in the name of Allah.

truthmans2012:
It is only the Quran that many Muslims interpret to form terrorist groups. In fact, the Quran says fighting is prescribed for Muslims:

- "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not Quran 2:216.

How is fighting good for mankind?
Fight who and for what? There, the Quran never states the fighting is in self-defence or retaliation, but a blanket command to fight. What a book., yet muslims ironically say Islam is a religion of peace. How can a religion that recommends fighting be called a religion of peace.

Look at what is happening in Kwara State now, before you know it, they have started destroying Churches. The god of Islam is a violent God. I doubt if it is not the Muslims that will destroy the world. God's true worshippers are not supposed to be violent, but gentle and easy-going, I wonder who Allah is that does not want peace for the world.

No reasonable Christian will interpret the Bible and become a terrorist Jesus laid a very solid foundation for peace and so it continued before the advent of Muhammad, who killed and maimed thousands of people in the name of Allah.

mhm, very deep one here

litenet14:
mhm

People like budaatum are only good at accusing others of things they wouldn't like to be accused of.
So, don't consider their statements as noteworthy.
Condemn what is condemnable!