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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 8:28am On Apr 06, 2021
Chekitaut:
Good morning from here obodo Nigeria. Chai cement ₦4,500. No good reason for scarcity. We are our problem in Nigeria. Man made scarcity, reduce production, demand & supply determine market price.
wait cement 4,500?


Hehehehehehehe. If this isn't end times, I don't know what is
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrabusNG: 8:36am On Apr 06, 2021
Chekitaut:
Good morning from here obodo Nigeria. Chai cement ₦4,500. No good reason for scarcity. We are our problem in Nigeria. Man made scarcity, reduce production, demand & supply determine market price.

Plan. Plan. Plan.

We got into this state because too many of us are reactive instead of being responsive when issues arise.

Barring any unplanned delay or unforeseen circumstances beyond my control, I’d still be able to finish my ongoing build within budget and agreed timeframe despite over 30% increase in the price of building materials.

Nigeria didn’t become a failed state last week or last night. We’ve been in these sh*t for years. Even the legendary high life maestro, Victor Olaiya sang in the 60s “Ilu le o, ko s’owo lode.”

I plan my life with the mindset that we are in a failed state to avoid nasty surprises.

May God save Nigeria!


________

XL6 Trillion | Atrium House: Project resumes today.

Good morning and wishing you a Happy New Week!

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:43am On Apr 06, 2021
Chekitaut:
Good morning from here obodo Nigeria. Chai cement ₦4,500. No good reason for scarcity. We are our problem in Nigeria. Man made scarcity, reduce production, demand & supply determine market price.

This country always entertains me.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Fromwater: 9:12am On Apr 06, 2021
Good morning house.
What is next after roofing?
I got different opinions from different people. I will like to hear the opinions of the professionals in here.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 9:27am On Apr 06, 2021
I thought some people said the price of cement has started to come down.
The importers are behind the present increase in price and they are cashing out at the expense of the people.
I don't understand why cement should be more than N2000 or not lesser though seeing as the clay limestone and even gypsum needed is gotten from the ground at no cost.
I watched the launching of the cement plant in ogun state several years ago and they said they couldn't exhaust the limestone there in the next 50 years. The clay they use is also dug on the land and they just use excavator and trucks to transfer them via a conveyor to the heating kiln where they are heated and ground together with addition of little additives like the gypsum to control setting.
I watched the documentary and I've often wondered why the product couldn't be much cheaper given the huge volume sold as compared to the overhead cost.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by RockOfAgesAlumi(m): 9:31am On Apr 06, 2021
Fromwater:
Good morning house.
What is next after roofing?
I got different opinions from different people. I will like to hear the opinions of the professionals in here.
Good morning boss after roofing the next thing is aluminium window, electrician work, plumbing work, plastering, door fixing, pop work, e t c
Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 9:59am On Apr 06, 2021
Good morning. we are available for your roofing woods woodwork and materials.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:14am On Apr 06, 2021
Fromwater:
Good morning house.
What is next after roofing?
I got different opinions from different people. I will like to hear the opinions of the professionals in here.

On my builds after roofing are:

Rough plumbing and rough wiring.

PS: But please I’m not a pro o. As in I don’t build for others just serve as General Contractor on my private builds.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrabusNG: 10:20am On Apr 06, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


On my builds after roofing are:

Rough plumbing and rough wiring.

According to EgunMogaji2 BS-Code 11357, rough-in pipe work should be done after roofing installation.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:27am On Apr 06, 2021
BrabusNG:


According to EgunMogaji2 BS-Code 11357, rough-in pipe work should be done after roofing installation.

I still am not sure if we really need plumbing for wiring cry

But I go with the flow until I see compelling evidence.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BuildingProject: 11:21am On Apr 06, 2021
Hello everyone,

Please do we have people that can do a perfect roofing woodwork here. And the the is 60sqm and my bàbà Láti said I go need all this woods.

Can someone help me to cost this items and less I forgot. He didn't tell me the height of the king post oh. He just said I should go and bring the whole sawmill to him.

2by6= 100
3by4= 70
2by4= 300
2by3=580
2by2= 300
5 Inch nail half bag .
3 Inch nail half bag.
4Inch nail3bag.
2 and half Inch nail 2bag.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrabusNG: 11:59am On Apr 06, 2021
BuildingProject:
Hello everyone,

Please do we have people that can do a perfect roofing woodwork here. And the the is 60sqm and my bàbà Láti said I go need all this woods.

Can someone help me to cost this items and less I forgot. He didn't tell me the height of the king post oh. He just said I should go and bring the whole sawmill to him.

2by6= 100
3by4= 70
2by4= 300
2by3=580
2by2= 300
5 Inch nail half bag .
3 Inch nail half bag.
4Inch nail3bag.
2 and half Inch nail 2bag.

3x4*
2x6*
5in nail half bag*

No comment.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 12:22pm On Apr 06, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


I still am not sure if we really need plumbing for wiring cry

But I go with the flow until I see compelling evidence.

When you say 'plumbing for wiring' do you mean piping the wiring as done in Nigeria? Or what do you mean?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 12:40pm On Apr 06, 2021
BrabusNG:


Plan. Plan. Plan.

We got into this state because too many of us are reactive instead of being responsive when issues arise.

Barring any unplanned delay or unforeseen circumstances beyond my control, I’d still be able to finish my ongoing build within budget and agreed timeframe despite over 30% increase in the price of building materials.

Nigeria didn’t become a failed state last week or last night. We’ve been in these sh*t for years. Even the legendary high life maestro, Victor Olaiya sang in the 60s “Ilu le o, ko s’owo lode.”

I plan my life with the mindset that we are in a failed state to avoid nasty surprises.

May God save Nigeria!


________

XL6 Trillion | Atrium House: Project resumes today.

Good morning and wishing you a Happy New Week!
Bro make I ask, let's say that the average cost of building a duplex is 35ml, how many Nigerians can cough up 20ml upfront for the carcass so you the engineer can buy up materials immediately and store. It's not like we don't know the situation with Nigeria, it's the same situation that is ruining plans for builders.

I gave someone a quotation yesterday and he was asking me to make it cheaper and I was begging him that I can't. The fact is that in a week or less, I will review the quotation upwards and there's nothing I can do about it.

So imagine how the potential client will react if I tell him that the price has changed also. And it's not like I put in huge difference from current price cause I don't want to scare him off. It's just too frustrating doing business in this country like this right now.

I have come to realize why someone who earns six digits monthly will want to leave Nigeria to become a driver in Canada. Not everyone can deal with this type of headache.


Sorry sir for the long story

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 12:56pm On Apr 06, 2021
michlins:
Bro make I ask, let's say that the average cost of building a duplex is 35ml, how many Nigerians can cough up 20ml upfront for the carcass so you the engineer can buy up materials immediately and store. It's not like we don't know the situation with Nigeria, it's the same situation that is ruining plans for builders.

I gave someone a quotation yesterday and he was asking me to make it cheaper and I was begging him that I can't. The fact is that in a week or less, I will review the quotation upwards and there's nothing I can do about it.

So imagine how the potential client will react if I tell him that the price has changed also. And it's not like I put in huge difference from current price cause I don't want to scare him off. It's just too frustrating doing business in this country like this right now.

I have come to realize why someone who earns six digits monthly will want to leave Nigeria to become a driver in Canada. Not everyone can deal with this type of headache.


Sorry sir for the long story
You are very correct. Despite the huge increment in prices, one has to reduce the profit so that the overall cost doesn't scare away clients.
We actually earn much lower now with increasing prices.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dahprech(f): 1:02pm On Apr 06, 2021
Good afternoon house
Please, I would like to know which is cheaper: to roof a house or to deck. Thank you

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Fromwater: 1:12pm On Apr 06, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


On my builds after roofing are:

Rough plumbing and rough wiring.

PS: But please I’m not a pro o. As in I don’t build for others just serve as General Contractor on my private builds.
Thanks boss.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Fromwater: 1:14pm On Apr 06, 2021
RockOfAgesAlumi:

Good morning boss after roofing the next thing is aluminium window, electrician work, plumbing work, plastering, door fixing, pop work, e t c
Thanks
Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 1:17pm On Apr 06, 2021
gbadexy:

You are very correct. Despite the huge increment in prices, one has to reduce the profit so that the overall cost doesn't scare away clients.
We actually earn much lower now with increasing prices.
Exactly. The cost of iron door now is climbing to #30,000. It was more lucrative when it was #18,000.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 1:18pm On Apr 06, 2021
gbadexy:
I thought some people said the price of cement has started to come down.
The importers are behind the present increase in price and they are cashing out at the expense of the people.
I don't understand why cement should be more than N2000 or not lesser though seeing as the clay limestone and even gypsum needed is gotten from the ground at no cost.
I watched the launching of the cement plant in ogun state several years ago and they said they couldn't exhaust the limestone there in the next 50 years. The clay they use is also dug on the land and they just use excavator and trucks to transfer them via a conveyor to the heating kiln where they are heated and ground together with addition of little additives like the gypsum to control setting.
I watched the documentary and I've often wondered why the product couldn't be much cheaper given the huge volume sold as compared to the overhead cost.
This inflation is out of control. I bought TMT rods 3 weeks ago @310. I paid 75k more per ton 3 later this is between last month and this month. I bought cement 2 hours ago @ 3,400 per big In Ajah area he told me it’s may go higher. Two weeks earlier the same guy selling for 3,050. What do we call this God sake.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 1:21pm On Apr 06, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BuildingProject: 1:39pm On Apr 06, 2021
BrabusNG:


3x4*
2x6*
5in nail half bag*

No comment.

He said he has added wood for pop logging as well and he said king post náà 20feet. Is that not going to be taller than the building itself? shocked shocked
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 1:43pm On Apr 06, 2021
kopell:
This inflation is out of control. I bought TMT rods 3 weeks ago @310. I paid 75k more per ton 3 later this is between last month and this month. I bought cement 2 hours ago @ 3,400 per big In Ajah area he told me it’s may go higher. Two weeks earlier the same guy selling for 3,050. What do we call this God sake.
Greediness on the parts of the importers sir. It's not as if the dollars is rising exponentially at the same rate materials are increasing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrabusNG: 2:31pm On Apr 06, 2021
michlins:
Bro make I ask, let's say that the average cost of building a duplex is 35ml, how many Nigerians can cough up 20ml upfront for the carcass so you the engineer can buy up materials immediately and store. It's not like we don't know the situation with Nigeria, it's the same situation that is ruining plans for builders.

I gave someone a quotation yesterday and he was asking me to make it cheaper and I was begging him that I can't. The fact is that in a week or less, I will review the quotation upwards and there's nothing I can do about it.

So imagine how the potential client will react if I tell him that the price has changed also. And it's not like I put in huge difference from current price cause I don't want to scare him off. It's just too frustrating doing business in this country like this right now.

I have come to realize why someone who earns six digits monthly will want to leave Nigeria to become a driver in Canada. Not everyone can deal with this type of headache.


Sorry sir for the long story

The “extra” in extraordinary means "outside" the ordinary.

The truth is we oftentimes seem to focus on the ordinary. A lot of us are too busy or preoccupied with so much ordinary stuffs that we feel it’s not necessary to chase the extra in extraordinary.


Until we get to a stage that we are no longer satisfied with the ordinary. A stage where we want to go beyond what is usual, regular, and norm - an exceptional standard - the last mile where many dare not thread, then we might not be able to make any big difference in our industry but excuse like everyone else.

Here’s something I always remind my team, “If we don’t work, we won’t have something to eat or feed our families. Bring me cutting-edge solutions and revolutionary ideas to stay competitive and help our clients WIN in time like this.”

This has always worked for us.

When I bought my dump truck (which I only use for NextHome projects anyway) few years ago, I worked on a project and we were delivering sand to the owner at almost half the regular market price. Though we had no control over reinforcement but we did all we can to give the client the best value in other areas.

The same thing applies to my formwork rental service and block production line.
The aim is to keep the project going in time like this.

Just think about it “How am I still selling blocks N200 despite the increase in the cost of cement and sand.” I already foresee a time like this and invested heavily into that line.

That’s long term planning.

I can be here to complain about the rising cost of materials and how the world is crashing down or make a difference to keep the project going and keep my workers busy and happy year round. It’s matter of choice.

We can make a difference or make an excuse. We cannot make both.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 2:50pm On Apr 06, 2021
Very true.

BrabusNG:


The “extra” in extraordinary means "outside" the ordinary.

The truth is we oftentimes seem to focus on the ordinary. A lot of us are too busy or preoccupied with so much ordinary stuffs that we feel it’s not necessary to chase the extra in extraordinary.


Until we get to a stage that we are no longer satisfied with the ordinary. A stage where we want to go beyond what is usual, regular, and norm - an exceptional standard - the last mile where many dare not thread, then we might not be able to make any big difference in our industry but excuse like everyone else.

Here’s something I always remind my team, “If we don’t work, we won’t have something to eat or feed our families. Bring me cutting-edge solutions and revolutionary ideas to stay competitive and help our clients WIN in time like this.”

This has always worked for us.

When I bought my dump truck (which I only use for NextHome projects anyway) few years ago, I worked on a project and we were delivering sand to the owner at almost half the regular market price. Though we had no control over reinforcement but we did all we can to give the client the best value in other areas.

The same thing applies to my formwork rental service and block production line.
The aim is to keep the project going in time like this.

Just think about it “How am I still selling blocks N200 despite the increase in the cost of cement and sand.” I already foresee a time like this and invested heavily into that line.

That’s long term planning.

I can be here to complain about the rising cost of materials and how the world is crashing down or make a difference to keep the project going and keep my workers busy and happy year round. It’s matter of choice.

We can make a difference or make an excuse. We cannot make both.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 2:53pm On Apr 06, 2021
diordaves:


When you say 'plumbing for wiring' do you mean piping the wiring as done in Nigeria? Or what do you mean?

Yes Sir.

I mean we gave rats in the USA too and they don’t eat our wires.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 3:00pm On Apr 06, 2021
KelvinCoaster:

These are interesting questions.
They look like JAMB questions too!

You can either tile before installing doors or do it the other way round. But, most joinery works contractors would prefer you tile in other to be certain of the door levels and that when the tiler is working on the door areas when the doors are already installed, they do not make any dent on their job

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 3:05pm On Apr 06, 2021
Please, for those that have registered companies, how did you all apply for EFCC's SCUML? The thing is driving me crazy. They just keep rejecting my application for one flimsy reason or the other. Please, share tips! is there a "Nigerian" factor to it?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sconp: 3:14pm On Apr 06, 2021
yungmin:
Please, for those that have registered companies, how did you all apply for EFCC's SCUML? The thing is driving me crazy. They just keep rejecting my application for one flimsy reason or the other. Please, share tips! is there a "Nigerian" factor to it?

cheesy cheesy cheesy
Is there anything without a Nigerian factor to it?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 3:16pm On Apr 06, 2021
sconp:


cheesy cheesy cheesy
Is there anything without a Nigerian factor to it?

Like seriously! They make you apply online only to just keep getting reject messages. I even went to their office here in Abuja but they acted like I can only apply online.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 3:32pm On Apr 06, 2021
Chekitaut:
Good morning from here obodo Nigeria. Chai cement ₦4,500. No good reason for scarcity. We are our problem in Nigeria. Man made scarcity, reduce production, demand & supply determine market price.

4500

What is happening again ? from 3000 to 4500.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 3:54pm On Apr 06, 2021
michlins:
bro it's doors before tiling. The tiler will use the level of the door for his work thereby ensuring there's no unnecessary gap below.

Another thing is that you don't have to deal with breaking the tiles to fit the door. This is my limited experience with working with doors and tilers. Some probably have an improved idea
you are correct door before tiling

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