PoliteActivist:


My friend Adam couldn't have been created a second before Eve. He was given a penis; where was that supposed to go?? Look throughout nature - a positive can't exis without concurrent existence of a negative. And see your non sequitur - God who knows everything suddenly REALISED he made a mistake - and the type of mistake that even a child won't make!
Read your Bible, there are two different stories of creation in the bible. The second one (which starts at Genesis 5:2) says man and woman were created at same time, and that makes more sense.

Argue with your Bible not me. I'm only pointing out your Bible's logic and time frame

Observing

NiRfreak:

Argue with your Bible not me. I'm only pointing out your Bible's logic and time frame

I quoted the bible: Genesis 5. States CLEARLY that man and woman were created same exact moment, which is the only thing that CAN make sense!

McSquishi:


Culture convinces women they are more valuable upon getting married or “winning” a man’s heart.

It’s funny because if a woman isn’t married it is usually men who will ridicule her for it. Men push women to get married early, telling us we aren’t getting any younger. Men spread the lie that even a rich woman has no value or hasn’t fulfilled her purpose if she has no husband.

Men take time to make all these write ups and get women to sign up for courses on attracting men for marriage. Men warn women not to be too obsessed with career and education that they end up missing out on a husband

So it’s not just that women celebrate it most, women are pressured into it most. Nigerian culture teaches girls from very early on that their main purpose, their main value, is to please a man. while boys are raised to know they have value just standing alone.

However if a man is not excited to be in a relationship/marriage and even hides it then it’s because he’s immature and not ready to settle down. That’s not a sign of manhood but childishness..

Because women just are and they have inherent value. They are sexual objects and their sexuality is their agency and power.

Men however must become and are judged by their burden of performance. Men are not born with value, we have to develop our value with time.

Women's purpose on earth is men

Career and business cannot give women joy like marriage and motherhood. That's how women are wired.

Marriage is an achievement but it's the greatest achievement for women and not men. Marriage is just like another business venture for men.

demmymoney:


Wats ur point exactly

Can someone please help me out - tell this guy what my point is.
Guy, try reading the thread before commenting

PoliteActivist:


My friend use your common sense sometimes. Stop lying in the name of faith. The bolded is clearly talking of MAN not animals, and clearly states so. Let me just repost this:

My friend Adam couldn't have been created a second before Eve. He was given a penis; where was that supposed to go?? Look throughout nature - a positive can't exis without concurrent existence of a negative. And see your non sequitur - God who knows everything suddenly REALISED he made a mistake - and the type of mistake that even a child won't make!
Read your Bible, there are two different stories of creation in the bible. The second one (which starts at Genesis 5:2) says man and woman were created at same time, and that makes more sense.

K

demmymoney:


Because women just are and they have inherent value. They are sexual objects and their sexuality is their agency and power.

Men however must become and are judged by their burden of performance. Men are not born with value, we have to develop our value with time.

Women's purpose on earth is men

Career and business cannot give women joy like marriage and motherhood. That's how women are wired.

Marriage is an achievement but it's the greatest achievement for women and not men. Marriage is just like another business venture for men.

With all due respect, PURE NONSENSE!

You are fooled by the culture you grew up in

luminouz:
K

Lol bro u and this ur "k" all the time abi u get k legs?

Mandela27:
Lol bro u and this ur "k" all the time abi u get k legs?

I no get time to dey argue noni...

A 'K' in time saves nine...

PoliteActivist:


With all due respect, PURE NONSENSE!

You are fooled by the culture you grew up in

He spoke evolutionary scientific facts on Biological differences between men and women in generalization as we have deviations in homosexuality, you are working with ideological Egalitarianistic-Equalistic social- reconstruction via non- organic changes in societal norm by legislative acculturation of equalist ideologies disguised as humanist ideologies

PoliteActivist:


With all due respect, PURE NONSENSE!

You are fooled by the culture you grew up in

It's not culture

It's nature and common sense

Men produce
Women reproduce

Men and women are fundamentally not equal

PoliteActivist:


Can someone please help me out - tell this guy what my point is.
Guy, try reading the thread before commenting

I read wat u said and u are hinting men and women are equal

sapphiere:

How many female Nairalanders have you seen creating threads to seek for relationship that leads to marriage?
You men do that weekly.
So now tell me, who among the two sees marriage as a huge achievement? The men that creates threads everyday seeking for wives or the women that don't create threads?

women don't create threads about needing a man cos they are not brave enough, they prefer dieing in silence. take it as same reason they won't approach a guy they like

luminouz:

I no get time to dey argue noni...
A 'K' in time saves nine...

No be lie

Just negodu how men are seriously debating this. After all said and done, men will still chase women. They will still use enough energy to get a woman and do everything in their power to make her happy, it is what it is. It comes from a place of love, ego and their hero complex. It is how nature have designed them. That's why I laugh when I see ndi red piller deceiving themselves. Men are men, and that will never change.

Those saying women don't have anything to lose but only have more to gain should check again and stop being overly sentimental. It is true that women long for men, it is also true that men long for women. And that will never change.

A man and woman that have agreed to be together as one, have a lot of sacrifices and compromise to make. In this modern dispensation women work just as hard to make money. So many women are a force to reckon with in their various fields of endeavors.

And these women return home to make sure that everything in the home front is in order. It is true that the man in most cases brings the lion share in terms of financial responsibility. But then the woman turns to the cook, the cleaner, the washer, the baby making machine, feeding machine, nanny, performs her wifey duties to her husband etc

Ps: I have headache, I have no strength to debate. This is my own piece. If you have a problem with it. Oh well, deal with it yourself and leave me out of it. Have a beautiful day ahead....

demmymoney:


I read wat u said and u are hinting men and women are equal

READ is not same as UNDERSTAND. Go back and read again.. (Hint: can positive exist without concurrent existence of negative?)

PoliteActivist:


READ is not same as UNDERSTAND. Go back and read again.. (Hint: can positive exist without concurrent existence of negative?)

+ and negative have different functions and are inherently not equal

NiRfreak:

Women weren't made to be a loner or an island. They were created with relationship in mind even before they were fashioned.
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Remember Eve was formed to come and be joined to Adam. It seems without man in the picture, they would have no lofty purpose, and they wouldn't have been formed. But men were formed without women in the initial plan.
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So when a woman finally get joined to a man in marriage, her divine purpose seems to be fulfilled cos that was the initial plan - to be joined to a man and be his helper.
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But on the other hand, men weren't created to be joined to a woman. Men were created into a purpose without woman in the picture. The primary purpose was to be in charge of the universe, dominate it and fashion out its destiny.

Meanwhile, due to boredom that comes after some deal of hardwork, necessity for leisure now arises, prompting the need to create women, as a companion when bored, an object of pleasure and distraction away from the hard-work inherent in man's purpose.
Women are created for relationship in simple terms. It's their highest goal and ideal that they can't but celebrate with a heart of victory.

Brilliant analysis.. and you broke things down nicely without degrading women..

demmymoney:


It's not culture

It's nature and common sense

Men produce
Women reproduce

Men and women are fundamentally not equal

See below. I know you can't imagine that is possible

demmymoney:


Man gains authority, dominance and responsibility in marriage

Men are judged by their burden of performance, that's why men must earn respect and are not given respect because of their genitals unlike women who just are ND have inherent value

i think marriage have never been a balance thing from the beginning.
The man bears most of the responsibility and reap the least of its result.
So anyone going into it should know what he is getting into.
Although One can strategically reduce the burden up to a almost balance level, but not totally....
So choose to go in or not, but i tell you, its a hard thing....

PoliteActivist:


I quoted the bible: Genesis 5. States CLEARLY that man and woman were created same exact moment, which is the only thing that CAN make sense!

I don't know how you people read Bible and turn interpretation upside down. Now open your Bible.
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Gen 2 vs 7=======  "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul"

Where was Eve at this point in creation? How come you said they were created same time?
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Now go to Gen 2 vs 15=======
"And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it"

Where was Eve when God assigned role to Adam to look after the garden. This is a straight forward passage if you have no agenda.
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Now go to
Gen 2 v 16-17

vs 16>>>And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
vs17>>>>>But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Now tell me, where was Eve when God even gave Adam rules, where is Eve in the picture?
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Now this is where Eve was first thought about by God
Go to same===Gen 2
vs 18>>>>"And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him"
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I will make him an helper...is a future statement which was later done After Adam had been created, given rules, and long after Adam had been living in the garden naming all the animals and tree from same Gen 2 vs 19 and 20...
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God created Eve at vs 22...
You rushed to Gen 5 to make a quote that his creation was made in male and female: of course that quote was in introspect, not a statement of chronology.
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Genesis 2 is the chronology and order of creation. Glaring to be seen, unless u feel event of Gen5 which is a mere genealogy came before Gen2 where the history was made.

jeff1607:



Imagine a man at 55 and his first child is 2 years old

Is there anything wrong with this?

BLOODYSPERM:



+ and negative have different functions and are inherently not equal

There is no question of equality. It is like wondering if positive is not equal to negative. It is circumstances, local culture, and personality traits that determine who is
"superior"

NiRfreak:

I don't know how you people read Bible and turn interpretation upside down. Now open your Bible.
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Gen 2 vs 7=======  "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul"

Where was Eve at this point in creation? How come you said they were created same time?
.
Now go to Gen 2 vs 15=======
"And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it"

Where was Eve when God assigned role to Adam to look after the garden. This is a straight forward passage if you have no agenda.
.
Now go to
Gen 2 v 16-17

vs 16>>>And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
vs17>>>>>But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Now tell me, where was Eve when God even gave Adam rules, where is Eve in the picture?
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Now this is where Eve was first thought about by God
Go to same===Gen 2
vs 18>>>>"And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him"
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I will make him an helper...is a future statement which was later done After Adam had been created, given rules, and long after Adam had been living in the garden naming all the animals and tree from same Gen 2 vs 19 and 20...
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God created Eve at vs 22...
You rushed to Gen 5 to make a quote that his creation was made in male and female: of course that quote was in introspect, not a statement of chronology.
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Genesis 2 is the chronology and order of creation. Glaring to be seen, unless u feel event of Gen5 came before Gen2

My friend go back and read again: there are two DIFFERENT creation stories in the bible. One says man and woman were created at same time (which is the only thing that makes sense). It says right there that He called them "man". Can u read?? So when it talks of man it means both man and woman!

GENESIS ONE:
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

GENESIS 5:
When God created mankind, he made them in the likeness of God.(C) 2 He created them(D) male and female(E) and blessed them. And he named them “Mankind”[a] when they were created.

WOMEN ARE MORE EXICITED OVER MARRIAGE BECAUSE WE SEE IT AS AN ACHIEVEMENT BUT MEN SEE IT AS AN ENTRAPMENT BECAUSE IT PLACES A LIMIT ON THEIR CCHEATING

Sentientmind:
Hi all, it isn't news women celebrate relationships and marriage more, tends to flaunt it, and for them it is obviously a very huge milestone for them; they see it as a very big achievement.
The reverse is the case for the male folks as most are mostly indifferent and many will prefer to hide it; my question is, why do female value and put so much emphasis on relationship/marriage?

Is it because they have more to gain? Or looking for people to fleece?

Your response/opinion is welcomed.

OP, let me educate u a bit on what you need to understand about what men or women see as achievement.

For a man, he will celebrate wealth especially financial wealth more than any other thing.
Once a man hits that jackpot. Voooom, his heart rejoices and he feels that he has landed and he has achieved the highest target in his life and that every other target will fall into place easily.
Men do not celebrate relationship cos it is not their highest life target. They only celebrate breaking money channels.

In the other hands, women do not celebrate wealth. No matter how rich a woman is, she may not even be so happy to celebrate it cos she has not achieved her life highest target.
Once a woman gets married, she become relaxed knowing that she has reached her life highest target. Then you see her celebrating it. She will like every one to know she has a man in her life. She will start talking more about "my husband" just the same way a man will be talking more of "my money."

So women are not celebrating relationships cos they are going to be favoured more than the man. In marriage, I don't think that there is a party that should claim more important than the other. A woman has her own level of merits as well as the man.
You as a man struggled to meet ur target (money) and the woman in the other hand also struggle to meet her own target (husband).
I don't see any party doing more than the other.

PoliteActivist:


There is no question of equality. It is like wondering if positive is not equal to negative. It is circumstances, local culture, and personality traits that determine who is
"superior"

Evolutionary Biology plays a fundamental role not just societal acculturation

SeekerofTruth1:
Kindly Ignore the First Commenter Please

And yes,you answered yourself in your Post. Marriage is a Big achievement for women because After their Father and Boyfriends are done taking care of them,it is now Their husband's turn,which will hopefully give them male kids who will then Continue the process when the Husband Must have probably been milked dry by the Woman

Hahahahahaha feminists can kill by this statement they hate men to understand the truth I will never marry

SimplyFacts:
To males, singleness equals peace of mind.

To females, singleness equals being broke.


Tell me, why won't the latter gender celebrate?

PoliteActivist:


My friend go back and read again: there are two DIFFERENT creation stories in the bible. The second one says man and woman were created at same time (which is the only thing that makes sense). It says right there that He called them "man". Can u read?? So when it talks of man it means both man and woman!

You no get sense bro. I'm just wasting my time arguing with a dimwitted.
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You don't even know the meaning of
Bible chronology and genealogy from creation story. wow. People can argue like a fool on this space Sha.
Between Gen2 and Gen5....Tell me..
which one is creation story?
which one is mere genealogy?
which one is creation chronology evident.
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You must be in Jss1 with primary 2 comprehension sense.

AfricanBilliona:
Generally, Marriage and relationships favour women more. When you finally get something that will favour you, you no go happy?

Tell us how true this assumption is.

NiRfreak:


You no get sense bro. I'm just wasting my time arguing with a dimwitted.
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You don't even know the meaning of
Bible chronology and genealogy from creation story. wow. People can argue like a fool on this space Sha.
Between Gen2 and Gen5....Tell me..
which one is creation story?
which one is mere genealogy?
which one is creation chronology evident.
..
You must be in Jss1 with primary 2 comprehension sense.

Now he goes to insults. Quite predictable.
Not only is it stated CLEARLY - it is the ONLY thing that makes sense!
Ok, use your own COMMON SENSE! It is God that gave it to you. Here's what I posted earlier:

My friend Adam couldn't have been created a second before Eve. He was given a penis; where was that supposed to go?? Look throughout nature - a positive can't exist without concurrent existence of a negative. And see your non sequitur - God who knows everything suddenly REALISED he made a mistake - and the type of mistake that even a child won't make!