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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 6:44pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
Image123:Well, I have seen or/and felt money. What else? |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 6:48pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
Image123:I have responded to your questions before. But the issue is that I didn't do it the way you wanted me to do it. Actually, I don't think I should have done it the way you wanted me to do it. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 6:51pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
Image123:I have responded to your questions before. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Image123(m): 7:31pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
HellVictorinho: i have seen or/and felt God work too. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Image123(m): 7:33pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
HellVictorinho: Lol, but you want me to do exactly what you want. Yet you are the first to get angry that God thinks otherwise. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 8:19pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
Image123:How did you know it's God's work when you cannot see God? |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 8:22pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
Image123:How did you know God thinks when you have not seen God thinking |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Image123(m): 8:37pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
HellVictorinho: Because He's a Spirit, i don't expect to physically see Him. i know it's God's work because it is not your work or mine, it was what He said He'd do. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Image123(m): 8:40pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
HellVictorinho: The same way i know you think when i have not seen you think. How else? |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 8:41pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
Image123:What's a spirit The other time, someone was only able to state what spirits are not. I don't expect you to do the same. 1 Like |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 8:47pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
Image123:You know I think because you know it's a human being that replies you on Nairaland. Has God ever posted anything on Nairaland Has he written anything before If you believe he has done something,you should be able to tell me what he used to do it. In fact,you should be able to tell me how he did it. Or don't you know how I type Is it not with my hands |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by MeMiTi: 10:04pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
You guys should please stop the argument. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Elliot2(m): 11:26pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
joseph1013:The apple that Adam and Eve eat is the tree of the knowledge of good and bad. Meaning, since the fall of man, there is no ignorance on the part of man that his actions are either good or bad; he is well aware of the consequences of his actions - though he only lacks the will to either do good or bad. The laws are just physical reinforcement of that conscienceness |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Elliot2(m): 11:36pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
joseph1013:The apple that Adam and Eve eat is the tree of the knowledge of good and bad. Meaning, since the fall of man, there is no ignorance on the part of man that his actions are either good or bad; he is well aware of the consequences of his actions - though he only lacks the will to either do good or bad. The laws were just given as physical reinforcement of that consciousness already in us. So the man before the laws or even the Grace would be judged by consciousness of good and bad through his actions. Like I said, it is our lack of will to do good or bad, and not the knowledge of good and evil that brought us here, and not necessarily the inactions of God to stop evil and confusions in the world. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Elliot2(m): 11:57pm On Jan 05, 2021 |
Plead:I am greatly embarrassed at the fact that, of all things to become, you became an atheist. You could have become a plant, an animal or a rock, or something else, which lacks the ability for critical thinking to own a belief. It is in our ability to think that we all became stupid. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 6:27pm On Jan 06, 2021 |
Saw this on Twitter: "Pastors are waiting for COVID-19 to disappear so they can continue healing the sick." So true! Scammers! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 10:08pm On Jan 08, 2021 |
Ben X Elon Musk, an atheist, just became the richest man in the world. No tithes, no offerings, no breakthrough seeds, just innovation. If you like still drop your January salary as first-fruit seed. 8 Likes |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 10:50pm On Jan 08, 2021 |
joseph1013:Some will say they will rather die as poor Christians. But these same people will still pray against poverty. What else?? 2 Likes |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1832(m): 11:43pm On Jan 08, 2021 |
joseph1013:no matter what you say or do, some will still drop their salary as first fruit/seed or whatever. I've long since discovered that the average Nigerian share the same brain wave with a he-goat. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by winnerr(m): 9:45am On Jan 09, 2021 |
Elliot2:this is so disrespectful. I do not understand the need for this. a man simply tells his story, and you utterly demean him because of his personal experiences? typical prejudicial disdain. 1 Like |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by winnerr(m): 9:46am On Jan 09, 2021 |
Elliot2:so, you believe god cannot act on some things then? |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Elliot2(m): 10:20am On Jan 09, 2021 |
winnerr:Lol. U no see as he was equally demeaning others' personal experiences. As a black man claiming to be an atheist, it is laughable that he is demeaning religious folks. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 8:27am On Jan 29, 2021 |
The Idea That Is God. "Does God exist? That depends on which God you have in mind. The cosmic mystery or the worldly lawgiver? Sometimes when people talk about God, they talk about a grand and awesome enigma, about which we know absolutely nothing. We invoke this mysterious God to explain the deepest riddles of the cosmos. Why is there something rather than nothing? What shaped the fundamental laws of physics? What is consciousness, and where does it come from? We do not know the answers to these questions, and we give our ignorance the grand name of God. The most fundamental characteristic of this mysterious God is that we cannot say anything concrete about Him. This is the God of the philosophers; the God we talk about when we sit around a campfire late at night, and wonder what life is all about. On other occasions people see God as a stern and worldly lawgiver, about whom we know only too much. We know exactly what He thinks about fashion, food, sex and politics, and we invoke this Angry Man in the Sky to justify a million regulations, decrees and conflicts. He gets upset when women wear short-sleeved shirts, when two men have sex with one another, or when teenagers masturbate. Some people say He does not like us to ever drink alcohol, whereas according to others He positively demands that we drink wine every Friday night or every Sunday morning. Entire libraries have been written to explain in the minutest details exactly what He wants and what He dislikes. The most fundamental characteristic of this worldly lawgiver is that we can say extremely concrete things about Him. This is the God of the crusaders and jihadists, of the inquisitors, the misogynists and the homophobes. This is the God we talk about when we stand around a burning pyre, hurling stones and abuses at the heretics being grilled there. When the faithful are asked whether God really exists, they often begin by talking about the enigmatic mysteries of the universe and the limits of human understanding. ‘Science cannot explain the Big Bang,’ they exclaim, ‘so that must be God’s doing.’ Yet like a magician fooling an audience by imperceptibly replacing one card with another, the faithful quickly replace the cosmic mystery with the worldly lawgiver. After giving the name of ‘God’ to the unknown secrets of the cosmos, they then use this to somehow condemn bikinis and divorces. ‘We do not understand the Big Bang – therefore you must cover your hair in public and vote against gay marriage.’ Not only is there no logical connection between the two, but they are in fact contradictory. The deeper the mysteries of the universe, the less likely it is that whatever is responsible for them gives a damn about female dress codes or human sexual behavior. The missing link between the cosmic mystery and the worldly lawgiver is usually provided through some holy book. The book is full of the most trifling regulations, but is nevertheless attributed to the cosmic mystery. The creator of space and time supposedly composed it, but He bothered to enlighten us mainly about some arcane temple rituals and food taboos. In truth, we haven’t got any evidence whatsoever that the Bible or the Quran or the Book of Mormon or the Vedas or any other holy book was composed by the force that determined that energy equals mass multiplied by the speed of light squared, and that protons are 1,837 times more massive than electrons. To the best of our scientific knowledge, all these sacred texts were written by imaginative Homo sapiens. They are just stories invented by our ancestors in order to legitimise social norms and political structures. I personally never cease to wonder about the mystery of existence. But I have never understood what it has got to do with the niggling laws of Judaism, Christianity or Hinduism. These laws were certainly very helpful in establishing and maintaining the social order for thousands of years. But in that, they are not fundamentally different from the laws of secular states and institutions. The third of the biblical Ten Commandments instructs humans never to make wrongful use of the name of God. Many understand this in a childish way, as a prohibition on uttering the explicit name of God (as in the famous Monty Python sketch ‘If you say Jehovah …’). Perhaps the deeper meaning of this commandment is that we should never use the name of God to justify our political interests, our economic ambitions or our personal hatreds. People hate somebody and say, ‘God hates him’; people covet a piece of land and say, ‘God wants it’. The world would be a much better place if we followed the third commandment more devotedly. You want to wage war on your neighbours and steal their land? Leave God out of it, and find yourself some other excuse. When all is said and done, it is a matter of semantics. When I use the word ‘God’, I think of the God of the Islamic State, of the Crusades, of the Inquisition, and of the ‘God hates gays’ banners. When I think of the mystery of existence, I prefer to use other words, so as to avoid confusion. And unlike the God of the Islamic State and the Crusades – who cares a lot about names and above all about His most holy name – the mystery of existence doesn’t care an iota what names we apes give it." ~ Yuval Harari: 21 Lessons for the 21st Century 12 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 5:24am On Feb 03, 2021 |
Imagine fxxcking a man's wife, impregnating her and then sending your messenger to threaten this man to not even consider putting off the marriage. Some Mafia boss level shit right? Haha. This is the God Christians worship. It amazes me how people do not think while brainwashed. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by LordReed(m): 1:21pm On Feb 03, 2021 |
joseph1013: Yahweh the godfather. Hmmm, I guess he is appropriately named. LMFAO! 1 Like |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 2:04pm On Feb 03, 2021 |
joseph1013: Funny thing about that is Yahweh The Godfather learned it from one of his Capos back the day. King David: The Christian excuse for moral depravity and bad behavior. After all, if God can love King David despite x,y,z why not this guy? That’s how they excuse Trump’s deplorable character while harping on about “religious freedom”, “Israel”, “last days” etc King David raped one of his General’s wives, then recalled the General from the war front in order to have the General have relations with his wife, so that any potential pregnancy from the rape can be covered up. When the General proved too honorable and loyal to his troops by refusing to go home while they toiled, King David hatched another plan. King David, the apple of Yahweh’s eye, decided to needlessly endanger the General who ended up dead. Therefore, David had no choice but to claim the rape baby. At least, Yahweh didn’t kill Joseph after cuckholding the poor fool. 1 Like |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Image123(m): 4:33pm On Feb 03, 2021 |
LordReed: No sense of objectivity, satan pikin. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Image123(m): 4:45pm On Feb 03, 2021 |
joseph1013: What intrigues me is how you come to the conclusion that you are an ape, and how you turn your fulcrum of hate on the one and only true God. It is the same everywhere, put God among other gods in books, kick against God all your life. Your hate gave you out as it does others before you. |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 12:50pm On Mar 01, 2021 |
THE CHRISTIAN DARE "I dare you to get on your knees and beg Jesus to save you." I've lost count of how many times people have urged me to get down on my knees. We know people can have profound emotional experiences if they first implicitly ASSUME a god is real. In Christian cultures, it works when people assume Jesus is real. In Hindu cultures, it works when people assume Shiva, Vishnu or another god is real. And because it works for just about any god, we know it is self-induced. Well, I have a challenge for believers. It doesn't require you to fall to your knees or to assume anything magical or extraordinary. It just requires you to use your reason. I dare you to open yourself to the possibility that you may be wrong. Ask yourself, what if the god you believe in was invented more than 100 generations ago by people who thought the Earth was flat? Once you start with that possibility, is the Bible easier to understand? Does the awful Iron Age morality you find in the Old Testament now make sense? Would that be a simple explanation for all the magic and superstition you find in that book? Does that explain the dismally wrong cosmology found in the Bible such as the idea that stars are small lights that could fall to Earth? If you will accept my dare, you may be able to break the chains that keep parts of your mind trapped in the Iron Age. Try it. I dare you. 6 Likes |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 8:07am On Mar 23, 2021 |
Ezegwu Okike I shared a picture of Echaricha (a beautiful masquerade) on my WhatsApp status and a female friend jocularly asked if I was behind one of them. “Shut up, they climb out from ant holes,” I replied. . “ Anuofia,” she mocked me. “There were masquerades, now extinct, which fell down from the sky,” I further pursued my fantastic theory. “You must be drunk,” she concluded. “But you believe that Elijah flew into the sky in a chariot of fire?” I asked. She went mute. . “You also believe that a snake interviewed a naked woman in a garden?” . Thunder-roll of laughter. . Needless to add, every religion is founded on a tissue of implausible, witless lies. Perhaps, we should mind Tertullian’s assertion that faith is at its greatest when its teachings are least amenable to reason. But frankly, believing that Elijah travelled to heaven in a chariot of fire requires greater credulity. The difference now lies in the narrator. We would be really undiscerning if we don’t see how religion is now the strongest-surviving tool of white supremacy. In advancing a different limb of this argument, Malcolm X was almost faultless in 1964; “The whole church structure in this country is white nationalism, you go inside a white church – that's what they are preaching, white nationalism. They got Jesus white, Mary white, God white, everybody white – that's white nationalism.” . The sole reason I am not allowed to believe that Echaricha is not human is because my black-skinned ancestors said so. But my catholic brothers are within their right to entertain institutional absurdity when they tell you that the body of St. Anthony of Padua—plus manifold other saints in similar mysterious preservation – had been undecomposed for centuries, and to parrot other pious swindles and egregious irrationalities. Wait, there is more: Jonah was shipped into another country by a fish, long beards and all. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 1:42pm On Apr 11, 2021 |
Sometimes when I watch Odumeje's theatrical madness, I find it funny and I laugh so hard that I forget there are people who genuinely take him serious. It takes an extraordinary depth of moral depravity for anyone to idolize that dangerous clown or believe in him, but sadly, many Nigerians have already sunk that deep. His activities may appear like comic show but he is having real life impact on many people. The case between him and one 'Ada Jesus' is a very pathetic story. That one charlatan's spoken words can magically determine your fate has got to be the most dangerously stupid thing people believe, and it is what has chained the minds of many religious people. It only goes to prove the paralysing effect of fear; the biggest weapon of religion and superstitions. Instead of focusing on how to raise money for world class medical care, the lady is busy moving from one shrine to one prayer house to 'lift' an imaginary curse placed on her by Odumeje and others. Worse than the actual sickness she is suffering from, is the fear that has effectively crippled her psychologically. There is an indescribable freedom that comes with damning superstitions and knowing that no spiritual being has control over your life. Only you are responsible for your destiny. 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 1:22pm On Apr 12, 2021 |
News: Prophet Odumeje vows never to forgive comedienne Ada Jesus after her family brought her to his church to beg for forgiveness over her ailment - - - LOL. This happens when you take charlatans seriously. 2 Likes |
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