dontrulee:
Religion is a phenomenon man created to shift responsibility from himself to some "unknown deity".

God cannot be proved nor disproved. So arguing for or against God doesn't make sense at all.

For me, I think it is better to just enjoy and live life here and now, be conscious of this moment. Live in the present and not in the past nor the future. Every religion claims to be the true religion and they say all other religions are false, I am not proving or disputing such facts at all. What I observed is that even if there is an element or iota of truth in any religion, the priests have woven doctrines around it and this has killed the truth.


It's better to go within yourself and look inside of yourself and discover your true being. Why become like Christ when existence has made you something else. Existence has produced one Christ and that's enough. Existence doesn't repeat itself and if you try to become Christ by all means, you'll only be a dead Christ and not a living Christ because you'll loose your authencity.


If you believe in God, fine.
If you don't believe in God, fine.

But, have you believed in yourself?
You've not seen God, but you can see yourself right? Why not start from going deep within yourself?

All the efforts of religion is to take the focus from yourself to God, whereas you're supposed to start from Yourself.

I like this.

joseph1013:
Ifiokabasi Naomi

When Rahama Sadau received backlash from #ArewaTwitter and Kannywood suspended her, the last thing I expected her to do was apologise. I think that action made me indifferent. I mean, was there a need to talk about the oppressive culture against women in the North and how something as mudane as just showing your back in a dress can send everyone frothing in the mouth and policing your choice of clothing if the women there see nothing wrong with it?

It would have been a case of drinking panadol for another's headache.

But just yesterday, Ms. Sadau was invited by the police. Not for stealing. Not for fraud. Not for killing her lover. Not for molesting a child. She was called in for... You guessed right! Showing her back in a dress and bringing shame and reproach to Islam.

The United Arab Emirates, just yesterday made a major overhaul on its laws including those that concern women. Stiffer punishments would be meted out to those who abuse, harass, molest, rape or even kill women in the name of honor killing.

In the 21st century, isn't it absolutely disgraceful that the police, rather than shun and if need be, take action against religious fanatics who would want to incite violence against women or any other group because of something like dressing, wearing a dress that shows one's back would instead choose to use its devices and resources to further oppress her for her choices and right to exoression? In a secular country that has in the last few days said it is concerned with protecting the human rights of its citizens. SMH. Yet, another country, a religious one at that, is moving in the opposite direction. A direction that fits the times. A direction the world commends. A direction that signifies growth.

Please can you people tell Northern Nigeria that the people they are so emulating, the people that should be carrying this sharia thing on their heads have left them oh. They are moving with the times and trends. Anyone that doesn't want to move will be left behind. You people should please, beg them for me so that Nigeria can move too naaaaaawwwwwww. Even if it is small inch like this.

Turkey under the Ottomans decriminalised homosexuality in the 19th century meanwhile our country men decided we should regress to pre-electrification norms. Silly.

You don't believe that people were killed at the lekki toll gate despite the first hand eye witness accounts,live videos,meticulous media analysis and reports by reputed media outlets and confirmation of casualties from the families of the deceased,you are still asking for "evidence". But guess what,you believe that a snake and donkey spoke Yiddish,the red sea was divided,the sun stood still,a man ascended into space on a chariot,Zombies came out of their graves and perused Jerusalem, five loaves of bread and two fishes fed 3000 people and the list goes on and on and when we ask for evidence you present us a book which is a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of the original copy which was written thousands of years ago by authors we know not,lost,found,recopied,compiled,transliterated,translated, retranslated all by people we do not know and then passed to us by our slave masters who do not have any use of it anymore. There you go,this is a more credible evidence than the ones you have in support of the lekki toll gate killings

I wish God will reveal himself to me so i don't become an atheist.

My problem with Christians especially Nigerian Christians is that when everything is going well for you and not for another person, you feel you know how to pray pass.

I sometimes look at Christian women who are prayer warriors trying to conceive and i wonder why some people give birth easily and some don't. Is it that some people know the right way to pray or is it luck?

Another thought i sometimes have is that in the bible, especially the psalms you hear about God's steadfast love and loving kindness but in the old testament, God was not really that kind. .

I think in life, if you are not disabled in anyway or paralyzed or living in a war torn country, you need to be grateful because there is so much suffering out there.

And the saddest part is being a Christian does not make you exempt from suffering. One day your luck might just run out and you join the unlucky ones.

I have so many doubts and i can't express them to the Christians around me. Nigerians are very judgemental. People in the compound even monitor you to know whether you went to church.

Yes, i am rambling. I needed a place to pour out my thoughts.

Religion doesn't explain things.
It only makes them more absurd.

Telsidelake:
I wish God will reveal himself to me so i don't become an atheist.

My problem with Christians especially Nigerian Christians is that when everything is going well for you and not for another person, you feel you know how to pray pass.

I sometimes look at Christian women who are prayer warriors trying to conceive and i wonder why some people give birth easily and some don't. Is it that some people know the right way to pray or is it luck?

Another thought i sometimes have is that in the bible, especially the psalms you hear about God's steadfast love and loving kindness but in the old testament, God was not really that kind. .

I think in life, if you are not disabled in anyway or paralyzed or living in a war torn country, you need to be grateful because there is so much suffering out there.

And the saddest part is being a Christian does not make you exempt from suffering. One day your luck might just run out and you join the unlucky ones.

I have so many doubts and i can't express them to the Christians around me. Nigerians are very judgemental. People in the compound even monitor you to know whether you went to church.

Yes, i am rambling. I needed a place to pour out my thoughts.

Been there brother. I am an atheist now but if you ever need to talk hit me up. No judgement, no proselyting just straight up talk.

Mi lovit

Another problem i have is religion in Nigeria. If i was abroad perhaps i won't be having all this doubts.

Pastors praying for their congregation for favor to qualify you for a job you are not qualified for. Which in essence means "man no man" job.

Nights of open heavens, Shiloh, breakthrough crusade, success, favour, divine appointment Every one praying to be blessed out of poverty. And the only one blessed at the end is the pastor.

I sometimes wonder if the thought of being blessed from above is holding me back from sitting down and strategizing.

If you know that you are all you've got, i think it makes you push pass your comfort zone. Instead of waiting for favour handout, you put extra effort into whatever you are doing.

I am not ready to be an atheist. I love the image of Jesus i have in my head. I am not ready to let to of the idea someone died for me. I want to believe there is a mansion in heaven for me. And religion also gives you hope during trying times or the death of a loved one.

But i have made a resolve to expect less from God and just do my best with what life gives me.

Though i don't go to church right now cos everything seems so hollow.

LordReed:


Been there brother. I am an atheist now but if you ever need to talk hit me up. No judgement, no proselyting just straight up talk.

You're already proselytizing.

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You're already proselytizing.

Maybe you don't know the meaning of the word, I suggest you look it up.

Telsidelake:
I wish God will reveal himself to me so i don't become an atheist.

My problem with Christians especially Nigerian Christians is that when everything is going well for you and not for another person, you feel you know how to pray pass.

I sometimes look at Christian women who are prayer warriors trying to conceive and i wonder why some people give birth easily and some don't. Is it that some people know the right way to pray or is it luck?

Another thought i sometimes have is that in the bible, especially the psalms you hear about God's steadfast love and loving kindness but in the old testament, God was not really that kind. .

I think in life, if you are not disabled in anyway or paralyzed or living in a war torn country, you need to be grateful because there is so much suffering out there.

And the saddest part is being a Christian does not make you exempt from suffering. One day your luck might just run out and you join the unlucky ones.

I have so many doubts and i can't express them to the Christians around me. Nigerians are very judgemental. People in the compound even monitor you to know whether you went to church.

Yes, i am rambling. I needed a place to pour out my thoughts.

Many people have been deceived by the health and wealth so called prosperity gospel. The Bible does not exempt Christians from the vicissitudes of life. Jesus Himself told His disciples that in the world, they would have tribulations, and that sufficient to the day is the evil there. But it says however is that God is available to help in the fire or water or trouble. It gives hope and faith that the test can turn to testimony. The story doesn't have to continue or end the way it is. And that ultimately, there's a better place God has prepared where there is no sorrow or heartache, loss or despair, death or sin. Don't be fooled by those who have no where to go but insist on you joining them.

LordReed:


Maybe you don't know the meaning of the word, I suggest you look it up.

Now you're patronizing me. You don't even know the proper spelling. i expect you to go off tangent talking about that too. You heard the word proselyte as a Christian, stop being a nuisance.

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Now you're patronizing me. You don't even know the proper spelling. i expect you to go off tangent talking about that too. You heard the word proselyte as a Christian, stop being a nuisance.

The nuisance is the one who expressly stated he was going to follow me and monitor my posts. You are a troll and a nuisance.

LordReed:


The nuisance is the one who expressly stated he was going to follow me and monitor my posts. You are a troll and a nuisance.

Following you does not translate to trolling you, stop being a nuisance. You do know that i don't troll you. You are already proselytizing the fellow and you first heard the word proselyte as a Christian. These are facts, every other thing you are saying is your regular noise. Don't be a nuisance.

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Following you does not translate to trolling you, stop being a nuisance. You do know that i don't troll you. You are already proselytizing the fellow and you first heard the word proselyte as a Christian. These are facts, every other thing you are saying is your regular noise. Don't be a nuisance.

The nuisance remains you, chasing shadows and insinuating yourself where you are not wanted or needed. Abi you also don't know the meaning of nuisance? LMFAO!

LordReed:


The nuisance remains you, chasing shadows and insinuating yourself where you are not wanted or needed. Abi you also don't know the meaning of nuisance? LMFAO!

Normally, who is not supposed to be wanted or needed in a thread about thoughts and questions on religion? It's a public forum little reed. Looking for proselyte like a snake that you are.

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Normally, who is not supposed to be wanted or needed in a thread about thoughts and questions on religion? It's a public forum little reed. Looking for proselyte like a snake that you are.

A nuisance and a troll.

LordReed:


A nuisance and a troll.

Which is what the average atheist is, clap for yourself. Good of you, excellent.

joseph1013:
John Agbaeze

One of the weirdest stories in the bible is the story of Esau and Jacob. In this narrative, the writer, who was heavily biased against Esau, expects you to love Jacob and despise Esau.

I can remember growing up, we all wanted to be Jacob: the smart, witty one, loved by God.

But, on a second look, Jacob was a major villain; jealous, deceptive, a con man and a very dishonest person.

Esau on other hand was carefree, kind, and even compassionate, and never deserved all the ill treatments his brother, mother, and even God channeled at him.

From the start, Jacob probably grew up in the shadows of his brother who was the much stronger and accomplished one right from time earning him major admiration amongst their small tribe - the resentment and disdain Jacob developed for Esau was terribly evident yet without justification.

- Jacob conned his brother of his position as the first born with a plate of porridge. Imagine how profoundly sinister someone has to be to care more about blackmailing your twin brother into relinquishing his position than sharing your meal with him when he was hungry.

- And then the famous con he pulled masking as his brother to steal his blessings from their blind poor father.

- Let us not discuss how he allegedly ended up conning his father in-law of several of his livestocks with shady arrangements.

It seems to me that the story of Esau and Jacob is about a brother's jealousy for his brother whom he recognizes as his superior.

It was a series of Jacob's incessant ill treatment, unending sinister ploys and wickedness towards his brother.

There was never a recorded event in the story where Esau treated Jacob wrongly or shared any form of ill-wish towards him.

Yet, at the end of it all, even when Esau had the power to exert his revenge, decimate Jacob's camp, Esau chose instead to forgive his brother.

To cap the disturbing trail of unfairness towards Esau, God apparently declared “Is not Esau Jacob’s brother? Yet I have loved Jacob but Esau I have hated. I have laid waste his hill country and left his heritage to jackals of the desert.”

Here is one story where the actions of the villains are broadly shown yet somehow convinces you to admire and root for him.

When you think about this now, the sheer absurdity of the whole set up makes you rather worried of some of the foundational lessons Christian children are taught.

There is nothing remotely admirable about Jacob, and he is a horrible example to formulate a moral lesson on.

Another thing I don’t get is how will Someone lost his birthright because he ate porridge. Is birthright then, something Physical?

Telsidelake:
I wish God will reveal himself to me so i don't become an atheist.
My problem with Christians especially Nigerian Christians is that when everything is going well for you and not for another person, you feel you know how to pray pass.

I sometimes look at Christian women who are prayer warriors trying to conceive and i wonder why some people give birth easily and some don't. Is it that some people know the right way to pray or is it luck?

Another thought i sometimes have is that in the bible, especially the psalms you hear about God's steadfast love and loving kindness but in the old testament, God was not really that kind. .

I think in life, if you are not disabled in anyway or paralyzed or living in a war torn country, you need to be grateful because there is so much suffering out there.

And the saddest part is being a Christian does not make you exempt from suffering. One day your luck might just run out and you join the unlucky ones.

I have so many doubts and i can't express them to the Christians around me. Nigerians are very judgemental. People in the compound even monitor you to know whether you went to church.

Yes, i am rambling. I needed a place to pour out my thoughts.

This coming year, I hope you consider choosing to ignore those around you - their opinions, and shortcomings, arrogance and ignorance. That way, your life and thoughts could become more about you and your belief and less of what those around you think or say.