ogbonti:



Guy you are wrong - If yoruba join Itsekiri fight-, as you claim that war won’t last 3 weeks

Why?

Because the yorubas under Abacha had the political power to end that crisis instanta using the military!

Diya Oladipo Donald was Military Vice President then- do you know what that means?


Abachas bossom friend and confidant Aziz Arisekola Alao is a yoruba man - That is one man apart from Major Hamza Al Mustapha that Abacha loved and respected, and Abacha will do anything for him - so get your facts right!

You don't know anything...

The last Ijaw vs Itsekiri didn't take place during Abacha's regime. So, how could a dead Abacha intervened in the said conflict?

A lot of the boys who fought for the Itsekiris were recruited from riverine parts of Ondo State.

sangresan:


Master's degree in what?

Definitely not 'History'...

There is 'History of Nigeria' just as we have 'American History' and 'Chinese History'...

Prof Obaro Ikime couldn't have written his "Groundwork to Nigerian History", if there was nothing to write about.

You're just exposing your ignorance on this thread.

Several Itsekiri towns were founded by Yoruba riverine people...Ugborodo/Escaravos is one example.

I repeat that Yoruba, Edo, Igala, and Itsekiri are brothers.

1) Actually as I already stated, the only people whom are actually yorubu are the people of oyo Kingdom.
2) your stories are not backed by proof.
3) Itsikeri is of Benin origin

We were in Port Harcourt, when the Ijaw militants declared that Yorubas should leave Warri...

sangresan:
We were in Port Harcourt, when the Ijaw militants declared that Yorubas should leave Warri...

Speak clearly, we are not mind readers.

Simbrixton:
useless bini man hahaha u mumu no be small so 1979 na 100s of years

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Omo you go see how 1979 go continue while you and your Olu go de siddon look

ogbonti:



shorrop, Ogiame Ikenwoli's mother was not not yoruba, that was a strong reason why he became Olu in 2015.I know alot about the Warri Kingdom.

The mother of late Ogiame Atuwatse II - the father of Prince Tsola was a Bini woman

You don confuse, confusionist chaii


How can d father still be d mother

Truthshots2:


1) Actually as I already stated, the only people whom are actually yorubu are the people of oyo Kingdom.
2) your stories are not backed by proof.
3) Itsikeri is of Benin origin

The joke is on you...Which of your claims have you buttressed with references..?

Abeg, delete the useless map you posted here...You don't even know the person who created the map and you don't know if he ever set foot on African soil.

KingOKON:
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Omo you go see how 1979 go continue while you and your Olu go de siddon look

hahahaha binis are in pains

Gbajure:


What is the meaning of Ogiso? Find the meaning b4 starting posting rubbish about not believing in the sky mythology.

And Ooni visiting Benin b4 coronation? Maybe u meant to say Ọba of Bini!

Think about this first. Who changed the name of the people from Edo to Bini a Yoruba word and Ogiso to Ọba, another Yoruba word.

Stop talking rubbish csn you historical prove all this

Can you sweae with your life, that the history actually took place


.... Stop feeding yourselves lies of the elite, benin-ife nrver had connection till 1914 were they cooked up historical lies for political benefit

b4bola:


Even your oba of Benin can't refute that.
Edo people are from Ile Ife.

Ogun dey kill you

sangresan:


The joke is on you...Which of your claims have you buttressed with references..?

Abeg, delete the useless map you posted here...You don't even know the person who created the map and you don't know if he ever set foot on African soil.

The maps are from this website:
https://www.raremaps.com/inventory/search?phase=results&q=West+africa

The maps were drawn hundreds of years before the colonization of the region and by people who visited the region. The fact that the truth doesn't coincide with your claims should indicate that your claims are false, not that the truth should be "deleted".

breko:
all you know how to do is rant about itsekiri,like you don't have issues plaguing your tribe and it's lands??
Funny thing is only uhrobo have a problem with the title, and always laugh at your folly for trying to bring the ijaws to come and partake in your hate agenda, which they don't care about
Oga rest,stop behaving like a tout when ever you hear about the greet people of iwere land

lol. Small man I've told you I'm not urhobo before now why forcing another tribe down my throat? I'm proudly ijaw. Where is the greatness or greet as you've called it in people who.claim the lands of others? You guys want Okerenkoko right? Lol 1996 will be a small thing compared to what will happen this time around. I hope your new King will run to Lagos like the late one did during the crisis? Of course you guys will hire mercenaries from Esan and Ondo states as usual. As a typical Itsekiri boy you are I already expected you to avoid facts and indulge in blackmail.

Gbajure:


No. You are now comparing apples to oranges. There are no descendants of Portuguese in Lagos. But returnees with portuguese names form the ruling house. In the case of Benin, the Binis distinct from pure Edo are Yorubas are the royal family as ordained by Oranmiyan, and no one ever contested the ruling house with them.

In the case of Itshekiris, it is even more ridiculous since they are pure Yoruba with some mixed with Binis, mind you not Edos, blood

Are you sure benin and ife even had historical connections in the past....

Are you ready to prove it historically or you're just repeating unverified statements you stumbled online.......


If we are to do research on the various yorubas and their said migration from ife you will see its a lie..... And a false

breko:
urhobo dirk kyte rest na, itsekiri man collect your girl

Lol! No my guy no Itsekiri man collected my woman. But why did you decide to ignore what I said about you all dragging lands of other people only to display ur ignorance out here. You guys can steal okumagba lands but not an ijaw man land

Fernandezaferna:




Lol. Igbo smoker, you must be out of your mind lol. Ask Itsekiri people where is their ancestral staff of office. The war ended after the incident that occurred at Ode Itsekiri (the only undisputed itsekiri land and their ancestral home). Funny how you're saying genocide when it was Itsekiri that attacked first and started killing Ijaws. Stop talking thrash you have no clue of what you're saying. The same Itsekiri led by one of their prominent Chief that attacked Chief Clark's compound and burnt it with hopes of killing him are the ones claiming genocide. On a good day, this Olu of Warri title will be visited God willing. I blame Okumagba for giving out lands to the Itsekiri people and more so the Ijaws whom are the traditional owners of all lands in Warri GRA for being so ignorant. Where una staff of office? On a personal level Tsola is a nice person, gradually the bad eggs in the Itsekiri nation are beginning to loose their stronghold in the Itsekiri nation and these unnecessary provocations of other tribes who lived in Warri town (not Ode Itsekiri) before Itsekiri (coming to Warri town just recently) will end


Ale je fun

Which areas are considered Warri gra

Gbajure:


Watch my choice of words, I wrote Bini and not Edo. Edo and Yoruba are distinct people and civilisations. One from Odùduwà the other from Igodomigodo.

Binis are the remnant of those that followed Oranmiyan to Edo land plus the descendants of Eweka, the first Ọba of Benin. Since Eweka mother is Edo, most Binis are there4 with Yoruba and Edo bloods. Binis are Yorubas while Edos are not.

Incidentally only the descendants of Eweka can become the Ọba of Benin not any pure Edo.

Say what you know stop circulating that oromiyan myth that holds no historical stands

But a false history coined after Nigeria amalgamation to unite bini and Yorubas into one ancestry for political benefit....

I think the Yoruba word being used to describe a group of tribes like Ijebu, Egba, Egbado,Owu,Ife,Ijesha,Ilaje,Ekiti,Owo,Akoko,Awori , e.t.c. is where I think the confusion first lies...The itsekiris as a tribe is no different from other tribes associating with the general word 'Yoruba' to describe people with similar culture.

“Though distance might be long the Yoruba and the Itsekiri have common and spiritual bond.” - Professor Obaro Ikime...

scholes0:



Let me even say that for argument sake you are right (which you are not, because that 3% is Benin royalty who are ultimately Yorubas who spoke Yoruboid dialects and hence how they easily blended with the Itsekiris).. The ruling family you are claiming have already made it known via a unanimous decision that Tsola Emiko is the Olu in waiting....

Atuwatse, Atorongboye, Omoluyiri, Abejoye, Akenjoye, Omagboye were ALL the official royal appelations of previous Olus of the Warri Kingdom, what do those mean in Benin??

So what is the argument about again? ....

When you're talking be afraid because am not just a benin am a benin fanatics i study the benin history for fun.... So i know the in amd out of benin history



Those names you mentioned there are corrupt benin words


Atuwatse = a pure bini word cant find another word as examoke now

Omoluyiri in benin is = omoruyi

Atorongboye = erhiagbonye

And the others from their meaning you can tell the actual word version in edo

Truthshots2:


The maps are from this website:
https://www.raremaps.com/inventory/search?phase=results&q=West+africa

The maps were drawn hundreds of years before the colonization of the region and by people who visited the region. The fact that the truth doesn't coincide with your claims should indicate that your claims are false, not that the truth should be "deleted".

Those who drew the maps don't have names?

Ignorance is blissful sha...

Meanwhile, tell us the titles of the book you claimed to have written..

hardam003:
I think the Yoruba word being used to describe a group of tribes like Ijebu, Egba, Egbado,Owu,Ife,Ijesha,Ilaje,Ekiti,Owo,Akoko,Awori , e.t.c. is where I think the confusion first lies...The itsekiris as a tribe is no different from other tribes associating with the general word 'Yoruba' to describe people with similar culture.

Actually, current "yoruba" is purely artificial, there is no similar culture.
The true yoruba are the people of oyo Kingdom.

sangresan:


Those who drew the maps don't have names?

Ignorance is blissful sha...

Meanwhile, tell us the titles of the book you claimed to have written..

1) the website is provided for all to see, the names of the mapmakers are info provided in the website, you don't need me to tutor.

2) I won't tell which books I wrote or claim to have written. All I will tell you is that they are maths books which are too advanced for you.

UGBE634:
The truth is that you are so ignorant and your ignorance stinks. this your ignorance is propelled by the fact that you guys don't travel outside your region and it is a mess for you guys, these are some of the reasons the igbos will always be a better group when compared to the Yoruba. The fact is the land and the people oronmiyan called binis do not refer to themselves as Binis in our native tongue but Edo. hence the need to educate you that Edos and Binis are one and the same thing. the name Benins are only used by the Benins when they are speaking in English for emphasis so you know the group they are talking about. it's just like different names for the same group . example omo oduduwa and Yoruba, easily one would know you are referring to the yorubas. The yorubas and the Benins do not have any relationship outside the monarchy. we are different people linguistically, "if I speak my language as an Edo(bini) whatever you call it and you hear I go die". the Bini monarchy is direct primogeniture from father to son, it is not adulterated and cheap like some classless Yoruba stool. I ordinarily would not have replied you but I have seen some level of stark ignorance under the sun among the yorubas about my people and I wish to correct it

Otemwen lare ne,

Find time to visit my profile for eye opening


Benin and ife relationship its a lie it was formed aftel Nigeria amalgamation by oba eweka and the Ooni to politically unite benin and Yorubas as one for political benefit along the line tribal issues came in and they started attacking themselves with the cooked up mytg


Is a research me and other benins have carried out, and other bini must know the truth tok

The oba of benin stool, ovbiumgoun noza is a pure edo lineage

Vinnie2000:



It was done many years ago..In 1952..The Olu then was called Olu of Itsekiri but He started calling himself, Olu of Warri..

Ijaws and Urhobos of Warri kicked against this but the Itsekiris took d case to Court and with some Political influence..(They had clout in Obafemi Awolowo's Action Group),,they won d case..

N that it is how Their ruler came to b known as Olu of Warri..

Funny enough,, in Warri town, u hardly see Dem or hear dier language being spoken..

But Urhobo n Ijaw is spoken in d Warri town n extension towns e.g Effurun, Ekpan, Jeddo,etc..

And you think that action of the Action Group was a coincidence?

Awo did it to give another yoruba subgroup an edge over the others in that region. It's self preservation and cultural solidarity. When Awo died Rewane an itsekiri man became the leader of the group before he killed by Abacha's hitmen.

Gbajure:


But the Benin dynasty was started by a Yoruba blood, Eweka the Great, the son of Oranmiyan with an Edo mother.

Oranmiyan toppled the existing Ogiso dynasty and that was never reversed till today.

Nope that was a made up lie nothing like that ever happened

gregyboy:




With people like you.... Nigeria can never be better

Today you're Yoruba, tomorrow hausa, next tomorrow you claim ibo

You nor dey tiya aboki

Your plans to divide we southerners will never work


You are a disgrace spending all your time waiting
To attack binis or disorganized southern Nigeria for your fulanisitic agenda


Bloody aboki

Lol, I pride myself as been fair and Just.

As for this thread, I am at peace with it.

Brothers ( Yorubas and Bini ) do quarrel but in overcoming such disagreement will they grow stronger.

For one thing, I am so at peace with the thread as our future vision is taking shape.

Truthshots2:


1) the website is provided for all to see, the names of the mapmakers are info provided in the website, you don't need me to tutor.

2) I won't tell which books I wrote or claim to have written. All I will tell you is that they are maths books which are too advanced for you.

Lol...Continue to fool yourself..

Maths books?

Functional Analysis or Algebraic Topology?

Tensor Analysis or Fuzzy Logic?

See dis boy oo...

sangresan:



Lol...Continue to fool yourself..

Maths books?

Functional Analysis or Algebraic Topology?

Tensor Analysis or Fuzzy Logic?

See dis boy oo...

Set theory, model theory, category theory, monoid theory, group theory ...
I almost forgot: affine geometry and differential geometry

Truthshots2:

Set theory, model theory, category theory, monoid theory, group theory ...

Lol...Ring theory, Category theory, manifolds, Lie algebra...etc

sangresan:


Lol...Ring theory, Category theory, manifolds, Lie algebra...etc

I have never seen the expression "ring theory" rings are the "children" of group theory and monoid theory.
I don't know too much about Lie algebra but I do know a lot about commutative algebra.

Truthshots2:
I have never seen the expression "ring theory" rings are the "children" of group theory and monoid theory.
I do F know too much about Lie algebra but I do know a lot about commutative algebra.

In algebra, ring theory is the study of rings—algebraic structures in which addition and multiplication are defined and have similar properties to those operations defined for the integers. ... Noncommutative rings are quite different in flavour, since more unusual behavior can arise.

Emami an area illiterate thug some years ago in okere is now calling the shots in itsekiri kingdom