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TrebleChamp:
Drag me how, na me rate Mourinho? Abi make i post the picture again so you go see am clearly. Oya you sef swear with your pen.is that you didn't celebrate Mourinho trophies at United. No matter how una try twist the narratives, you guys cannot change the fact that Mourinho won 3 trophies with United, while Ole is yet to win spoon after Managing United for the same number of months.

Its left for you to look at it and make deductions

Guardiola has won 126 premier league games
Alardyce has won 176 premier leaue games

Who is the better premier league coach in your opinion

handelex:
Illimitable and Expert17 does not agree with your take here, is like you're a fake Jose fan boy

Everybody get his own line of argument sir ...

Illimitable:
If a new manager took over City this season, he would be taking over a squad that is afraid to get into a semifinal. If the new manager somehow manages it with them despite being an underdog, he could win an IFFHS award based on that alone.

A new manager with City will be inheriting an underdog? Try to be clear

raumdeuter:
Simple question Man City has been losing to Lyon and Monaco are they underdogs?
Barcelona lost to Roma, are they underdogs?
Juventus lost to Porto, Lyon and Ajax Are they underdogs?

Here is your answer;

City got to the semifinals in 2016.

There was never a time they got knocked out in the round of 16 for 6 consecutive seasons. How can they be underdogs when it was Pep that was underachieving with them in Europe

raumdeuter:
They won it in 2002. by 2005 their stars started leaving starting with Figo
So if you are asking why they didnt win in 2002, 2003, 2004 you have to be clearer

If winning it is by the sheer number of the ballon d’Or players in their squad, there’s no reason why they couldn’t repeat it between 2003-2007, by your own logic.

So explain to the House why your logic only punishes Mourinho that had just 2 Ballon d’Or winners but won’t punish the managers that handled Madrid between 2003-7 when they had about 9 different ballon d’Or trophies in their squad?

It’s so easy to disintegrate your stupid logic.

hensben:
Here is your answer;

[b] City got to the semifinals in 2016.

There was never a time they got knocked out in the round of 16 for 6 consecutive seasons. How can they be underdogs when it was Pep that was underachieving with them in Europe

2017
2018
2019
2020

City failed to make the semi so they are underdogs

Expert17:
Who has won UCL with Porto before or after Mourinho?

NOBODY

Who has won treble with Inter Milan before or after Mourinho?

NOBODY

Go and check your facts right before you disgrace yourself .

Illimitable:
If winning it is by the sheer number of the ballon d’Or players in their squad, there’s no reason why they couldn’t repeat it between 2003-2007, by your own logic.

So explain to the House why your logic only punishes Mourinho that had just 2 Ballon d’Or winners but won’t punish the managers that handled Madrid between 2003-7 when they had about 9 different ballon d’Or trophies in their squad?

It’s so easy to disintegrate your stupid logic.

2003 to 2007, their Balon dors were leaving the team starting from Figo then Zidane. Moreover these collection of Balon dors just won in 2002

Del Bosque managed Madrid Balon dors and won the CL

Checkmate

hensben:
Here is your answer;

City got to the semifinals in 2016.

There was never a time they got knocked out in the round of 16 for 6 consecutive seasons. How can they be underdogs when it was Pep that was underachieving with them in Europe

So the Madrid coaches from 2004 to 2010 weren't underachieving?

handelex:
Lol you gang member is going all emotional and calling names and you're talking about facts and logic

Which facts and which logic, that a Madrid team having Ronaldo, Ramos, Pepe, Kaka, Benzema, Casillas etc be underdog?

Lolz

Lol... Na him go insult, call people dullards and all.
But the thing I know is that this guy don't understand English. He knows English but lacks understanding and comprehension. Reason why he thinks everyone here to him are madmen, wen in actual fact he's the only madman(dullard)

I wish the sites/forum he loves best, I never come across it. Only God knows the kinda knowledge that will be shared there.

raumdeuter:
A new manager with City will be inheriting an underdog? Try to be clear

Pep has now achieved what his predecessor achieved albeit after 5 attempts. The hoodoo is now broken.

If a new manager had taken over City at the start of the season to achieve a semifinal, he could win IFFHS award on that strength alone.

But now, the hoodoo is broken!

handelex:
Lol your gang member is going all emotional and calling names and you're talking about facts and logic

Which facts and which logic, that a Madrid team having Ronaldo, Ramos, Pepe, Kaka, Benzema, Casillas etc be underdog?

Lolz

That Madrid team were struggling in Europe for six years before mou came

That mou achieved with two under dogs team in ucl with make him special

That pep avoid difficult jobs and go for the easy ones to pad stat trophies.

That mou is the current best coach in the last decade according to IFFHS

That Mou won three trophies with Man U whereas Ole still unable to win spoon.

That pep has only won ucl with Barcelona all thanks to messi and co.

That pep got unlimited budget and luxurious spending at man city.

I can go on and on.

Illimitable:
Pep has now achieved what his predecessor achieved albeit after 5 attempts. The hoodoo is now broken.

If a new manager had taken over City at the start of the season to achieve a semifinal, he could win IFFHS award on that strength alone.

But now, the hoodoo is broken!

Mourinhos predecesor at Spurs made the CL final, when will Mourinho make it?

handelex:
So the Madrid coaches from 2004 to 2010 weren't underachieving?

You sef don see the hole wey him dig na.

Madrid b4 Mourinho... Underdog
Present man city.... Underachievers

It can only be ment na

Illimitable:
Pep has now achieved what his predecessor achieved albeit after 5 attempts. The hoodoo is now broken.

If a new manager had taken over City at the start of the season to achieve a semifinal, he could win IFFHS award on that strength alone.

But now, the hoodoo is broken!

This one has finally gone insane

hensben:
Yes he did take a difficult job in those clubs compare to pep.
Since mou left inter how are they faring in ucl. Before mou how were they faring.

Chelsea won their first epl after 50 years.

Real Madrid were struggling in ucl for 6 years before mou, when he came he made 3 semis in his 3 years.

You just set different timelines for different team and for different managers based on your agenda.

hensben:
That Madrid team were struggling in Europe for six years before mou came

That mou achieved with two under dogs team in ucl with make him special

That pep avoid difficult jobs and go for the easy ones to pad stat trophies.

That mou is the current best coach in the last decade according to IFFHS

That Mou won three trophies with Man U whereas Ole still unable to win spoon.

That pep has only won ucl with Barcelona all thanks to messi and co.

That pep got unlimited budget and luxurious spending at man city.

I can go on and on.

Pep and Mourtinho are in the same league currently, And the gap between them is like heaven and earth

In 2016. Pep and Mourinho inherited teams in the same league same city, who finished on same points and the ga between them is growing wider

Pep is about to win his 3rd league title while Mourinho is fighting Lampard Ole and Arteta

Jodera:
You sef don see the hole wey him dig na.

Madrid b4 Mourinho... Underdog
Present man city.... Underachievers

It can only be ment na

Facts and logic in the mud lmaoooo

handelex:
So the Madrid coaches from 2004 to 2010 weren't underachieving?

have mercy on hensben please

raumdeuter:
2017
2018
2019
2020

City failed to make the semi so they are underdogs

They are not underdogs, they underachieved.

Pep inherited a team that got to the semifinals. He spent £800m on the same squad and failed to get to the semifinal in 4 different attempts.

That’s not an underdog story.

Mourinho, however, took a job where the club hadn’t gone past R16 in 6 seasons and he took them straight to a semifinal.

That’s overachievement.

This feigning to be stupid is really making you look bad.

Expert17:
Underdog = least favorite or someone expected to lose.

A big club can turn to an underdog, in some situation, so stop assiociating underdog tag to just small clubs.

At No point was Madrid ever an underdog in any competition talk more of UCL were they are the king and not even when they invested heavily in Ronaldo and kaka was had just won the UCL.

Make we hear word abeg.

handelex:
Facts and logic in the mud lmaoooo

their fact and logic na amala turning and insults

Jodera:
Valdez, puyol, abidal, etoo are the core of 2006, that made it to 2009. Who else made it to make it 80% please?

Abidal core in 2006 ?

I doubt that bro.

raumdeuter:
Its left for you to look at it and make deductions

Guardiola has won 126 premier league games
Alardyce has won 176 premier leaue games

Who is the better premier league coach in your opinion

This here is why i don't believe in stats, and i have stated it here in the past. I will watch a player e.g Martial play rubbish with my two eyez, days later some people will dig up stats showing how Martial had the best take on bla bla bla. As for that rating of Mourinho, i didn't do the rating plus i only posted it here so Mourinho haters can give the man the respect he deserve....

Real Madrid
R16
R16
R16
R16
R16
R16
Semifinal(Mourinho)

Man City
Semifinal(Pellegrini)

Q/final(Pep)
R16(Pep)
Q/final(Pep)
Q/final(Pep)

The only people who think these two scenarios are the same are window lickers.

Illimitable:
They are not underdogs, they underachieved.

Pep inherited a team that got to the semifinals. He spent £800m on the same squad and failed to get to the semifinal in 4 different attempts.

That’s not an underdog story.

Mourinho, however, took a job where the club hadn’t gone past R16 in 6 seasons and he took them straight to a semifinal.

That’s overachievement.

This feigning to be stupid is really making you look bad.

Coogar I didnt know you were back in town. How far?

Illimitable:
Don’t mind that Bara guy.

They somehow thought Mourinho’s lengthier career is why he’s #1 when his 4 IFFHS awards is the key.

Majority of the other managers on the list between 2001-2020 had to outrightly win the CL to be given the award.

Mourinho won the award for winning the PL with Chelsea - a trophy Chelsea hadn’t won for 50 years. IFFHS considered the league title in that circumstance worthier than all the league titles Pep won at Bayern or City

Mourinho also won the award in 2012 after destroying Pep’s Barca in the league. IFFHS considered that feat worthier because Madrid were underdogs nobody gave a chance to win La Liga. Madrid didn’t win CL in 2012 but IFFHS still gave the award to Mourinho.

Another evidence that Mourinho takes difficult jobs while Pep takes jobs where failure is impossible. Pep has never won the award without winning the CL. All his league victories have come easy unlike Mourinho’s 04/05 or 11/12 league victories.

This debate is over.

How many Balon d'Or or world best coach did Mourinho have. Guardiola has more than him.
How many IFFHS world coach have Mourinho won since 2008 when Guardiola start his coaching career.
How many Onze d'Or coach of the years does Mourinho has.

Guardiola achievement is far superior than Mourinho.

Jodera:
Quick Answer
1... Mourinho won the champions league with Porto

2... Mourinho won the champions league with Inter

QED!!

raumdeuter:
Mourinhos predecesor at Spurs made the CL final, when will Mourinho make it?

Yeah, he made it with these results

popizaino:
At No point was Madrid ever an underdog in any competition talk more of UCL were they are the king and not even when they invested heavily in Ronaldo and kaka was had just won the UCL.

Make we hear word abeg.

So because they sign those two made them not to be under dog. Did Kaka won ballon d’ or with Real Madrid? How did his performance with ac Milan mean anything if he failed to perform for Real Madrid. Did cr7 win balon d” or with Real Madrid before mou came? We’re they not struggling to get passed r16 before mou came. How what Cr7 won with Man U help Real Madrid as a club before mou made them formidable again.

hensben:
That Madrid team were struggling in Europe for six years before mou came

That mou achieved with two under dogs team in ucl with make him special

That pep avoid difficult jobs and go for the easy ones to pad stat trophies.

That mou is the current best coach in the last decade according to IFFHS

That Mou won three trophies with Man U whereas Ole still unable to win spoon.

That pep has only won ucl with Barcelona all thanks to messi and co.

That pep got unlimited budget and luxurious spending at man city.

I can go on and on.

Pls go on and tell me the wonders he's doing at Spurs currently

BARAJ92:
How many Balon d'Or or world best coach did Mourinho have. Guardiola has more than him.
How many IFFHS world coach have Mourinho won since 2008 when Guardiola start his coaching career.
How many Onze d'Or coach of the years does Mourinho has.

Guardiola achievement is far superior than Mourinho.

Was there a Ballon d’Or coach award when Mourinho won CL with Porto?

Have some shame, bro.